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  • @guyinthewhiteT
    @guyinthewhiteT ปีที่แล้ว +3605

    My favorite theory about why Andor was so great was that Disney execs didn’t know anything about the character or story so they made little to know input in the story

    • @greygorygaming
      @greygorygaming ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Ans it flopped because it's not Star Wars. Should've just ended the story story with Ep6 and called it a day.

    • @ealing456
      @ealing456 ปีที่แล้ว +413

      ​@@greygorygaming where did you read that it flopped?

    • @phabiorules
      @phabiorules ปีที่แล้ว +243

      Honestly, that’s not uncommon.
      A lot of the best comic storylines from the big two (Marvel and DC) involve random side characters that the writer is allowed to do whatever they want with.
      The creator of Andor didn’t want to tell story using every character in the extended universe, nor did he want to sell a bunch of merchandise. Man just wanted a good story, and Disney thought it would be a good filler before the Mandalorian returned.

    • @gandhithegreat328
      @gandhithegreat328 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      There certainly wasn’t much fan service in it and when there was it was all in the background where it needed to be

    • @frantisekfojt8688
      @frantisekfojt8688 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It was great because they didn't actually care about it and didn't ruin it with politics, and it flopped because nobody expects anything from disney anymore, just another random spin off

  • @ChrisTrenary
    @ChrisTrenary ปีที่แล้ว +675

    "The Mandalorian is a surprise hit!"
    "10 TV SHOWS A YEAR, MINIMUM"

    • @austinbaker8042
      @austinbaker8042 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      THE DAY OF A FINALE IS THE PREMEIRE OF ANOTHER 4-ISH EPISODE STAR WARS SHOW!

  • @garrito1016
    @garrito1016 ปีที่แล้ว +3821

    At this point, Disney even holding a director for a Star Wars movie will be an accomplishment.

    • @billyalarie929
      @billyalarie929 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      It’s going to end up being directed by like four different people. Because they all left but their “contributions” remained intact bc fuck idk man, desperate.

    • @lucs028
      @lucs028 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tonimashdane33498 which is dumb, since his movie was the best one to come out of disney

    • @markopusic8258
      @markopusic8258 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@lucs028 I mean... It was the most spectacular in a way, but putting half of the internet on fire isn't exactly a seal of quality.

    • @acatnameddog
      @acatnameddog ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@bilbobaggins9451 a vision that has hurt the franchise. Congrats.

    • @jonathonpolk3592
      @jonathonpolk3592 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@Lucas Savicki I'm with you. I wish all those who rallied fans to hate on TLJ would rewatch all 9 eps from start to finish and honestly evaluate them outside the lens of nostalgia bias. I recently did this with my kid, and it really changed my mind on the whole series. The sequel series as a whole is decent and worthy of being part of the universe. While I love SW, the original and prequel series were just not that good. They were loaded with bad acting, cheesy dialogue, dumb plot twists and holes, and tropes that were overused even at the time they were made. Each of the 9 films had some good elements and some bad ones, and while I think 9 is probably the worst in the series, it isn't that bad compared to the others.
      I think a big part of the problem is that most fans placed SW on some narrative pedestal without realizing that the films were meant to tell an old fashioned epic like Iliad or Odyssey. It wasn't about telling a complete, fully developed and coherent story. It was about making the audience feel a particular way and bringing them along the heroes journey. It's always been about the feels, not the thoughts, and sadly it's been the thoughts that have gotten in the way of many people enjoying the films. Now I'm not saying people should overlook stupid things in films, but I am suggesting that people judge them on their level with what they were trying to accomplish. And all 9 films did that very well.

  • @Mediados
    @Mediados ปีที่แล้ว +2368

    It was physically impossible to not make Episode 7 a success.

    • @V1489Cygni
      @V1489Cygni ปีที่แล้ว +412

      I don't know, man. A story about a desert orphan finding out a droid with critical information on it's way to aid the rebel forces, then meeting a grumpy father figure, a guy wearing leather with no desire to die for the rebel cause and Chewbaca? Going to a sleezy cantina, flying on the the Millenium Falcon, fiding out they have magic powers, fiding out the bad guy with with a black mask has a planet killing -moon- spacestation, fiding out bad man in black mask has a personal connection with grumpy father figure, having bad guy with with a black mask kill grumpy father figure in a one on one confrontation, then having an xwing make a 1 in a million shot after a tight trench run, ultimately destroying the enemy spacestation?
      As a concept, that's kinda out there. I'd say it was a coin flip whether it would work or not.

    • @Jerrrrremy
      @Jerrrrremy ปีที่แล้ว +148

      @@V1489Cygni Wow, what a fresh take. Definitely never heard this before.

    • @V1489Cygni
      @V1489Cygni ปีที่แล้ว +170

      @@Jerrrrremy Sounds like you'd have a bright future at Disney

    • @tuben9217
      @tuben9217 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@V1489Cygni Chewbacca specifically being there is the secret ingredient

    • @dylanarthur5526
      @dylanarthur5526 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I feel like the success of The Force Awakens was due to the fact it mirrored A New Hope. Same formula for the modern times and it was a well made film.

  • @image_worlds
    @image_worlds ปีที่แล้ว +3004

    We all see the obvious solution to the Star Wars Fatigue. Every character gets a Holiday Special. That'll fix it all.

    • @nbarbettini
      @nbarbettini ปีที่แล้ว +82

      "When everyone hates Star Wars, no one will! Wait, no..."

    • @pleasedontbreakintomyhouse7989
      @pleasedontbreakintomyhouse7989 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Genius but it has to be every single one

    • @niccolorichter1488
      @niccolorichter1488 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@pleasedontbreakintomyhouse7989 even Glab Shito ?

    • @pleasedontbreakintomyhouse7989
      @pleasedontbreakintomyhouse7989 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@niccolorichter1488 EVERYONE

    • @mguy5923
      @mguy5923 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Max Reebo gets a special where he's just chilling and making Jizz, I'll fall in love all over again, holiday or no. You can't ruin it for me.

  • @mikyto7313
    @mikyto7313 ปีที่แล้ว +2046

    Star Wars ended by making everyone into Harrison Ford, tired of it all 😭

    • @cbesmer7
      @cbesmer7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      This comment has 41 likes but what does it mean?

    • @coalblack666
      @coalblack666 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      That’s actually an amazing insight

    • @Ethan-wr2os
      @Ethan-wr2os ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @Munchies 2019 I still adore Star Wars, I just steer clear of anything sequel-related for me lol. But yeah I am like a megafan and that movie made me cease any further Star Wars intake for like a year and a half 🫤

    • @nakenmil
      @nakenmil ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@cbesmer7 Harrison Ford initially wanted Han Solo to die in The Empire Strikes Back. It seems like he's been over Star Wars ever since.

    • @thegoodreylo4749
      @thegoodreylo4749 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@omarcardenas2012The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie

  • @greyeyed123
    @greyeyed123 ปีที่แล้ว +920

    "I don't think David Lynch was that interested in the Mace Windu series." David Lynch: "I started to get a headache. Like a migraine. They started explaining purple light sabers. I needed to go home and lay down."

    • @abeedo
      @abeedo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wait, did they actually.

    • @greyeyed123
      @greyeyed123 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@abeedo The tagline was, "A Jedi in trouble."

    • @zero-pl3tt
      @zero-pl3tt ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@abeedo Lynch was offered to direct Return of The Jedi, the migraine quote is what he said happened when he sat down with George Lucas lol.

    • @DPMusicStudio
      @DPMusicStudio ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zero-pl3tt And then they suckered him into making Dune. He should have done the Star Wars film.

    • @greyeyed123
      @greyeyed123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DPMusicStudio Naw. Dune was half a step away from true greatness, despite it all. th-cam.com/video/pixm64N5xeI/w-d-xo.html

  • @leephillips4402
    @leephillips4402 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    "Stop letting me talk".
    Perfect ending, could have worked with literally any movie franchise in existence.

    • @njux1871
      @njux1871 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mission Impossible still slaps tho

  • @nakenmil
    @nakenmil ปีที่แล้ว +697

    Star Wars is what I have nightmares of what Lord of the Rings could have been/may yet become.

    • @jonnnnniej
      @jonnnnniej ปีที่แล้ว +42

      One could hope that they actually learn from the Star Wars and superhero fatigue... or maybe it's wishful thinking

    • @SmokeDog1871
      @SmokeDog1871 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Is 100 percent about to become

    • @hurgcat
      @hurgcat ปีที่แล้ว +4

      at we can hold the OT tight at night

    • @DouglasQuaid999
      @DouglasQuaid999 ปีที่แล้ว

      Erm actually sweaty you are racist and sexist if you don't watch the amazon version that nobody watched or talks about anymore

    • @itsaUSBline
      @itsaUSBline ปีที่แล้ว

      Give it time.

  • @OverlyAverageBen
    @OverlyAverageBen ปีที่แล้ว +1566

    I often think about how different modern media would look like if David Lynch had taken the Return of the Jedi job. Twin Peaks: The Return would have been considered too tame in that world

    • @Ale-dd3ek
      @Ale-dd3ek ปีที่แล้ว +77

      A Star wars movie made by Lynch would be really interesting

    • @AdamFunk
      @AdamFunk ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I'm sorry, if he'd WHAT?!
      That part was _real?_

    • @ootaviooo
      @ootaviooo ปีที่แล้ว +117

      @@AdamFunk George Lucas considered Lynch for directing Return of the Jedi.

    • @diehard7517
      @diehard7517 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I don't know, Lynch tried directing a space opera movie once and it didn't go well...

    • @rimaq_
      @rimaq_ ปีที่แล้ว +36

      ​@@diehard7517Dune didn't had nearly as much backing and expectation (at least on it's first cycle, not after it became a long wait) as SW did with RoTJ

  • @AAAAAAAA-ss6gn
    @AAAAAAAA-ss6gn ปีที่แล้ว +967

    The Boba Fett show feels like an hour and a half Disney+ special that somehow got stretched into a full TV series

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      With a Mandalorian commercial plopped in the middle

    • @Casshio
      @Casshio ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Same with the Obi Wan one. But at least that could've been salvaged.

    • @fractal5764
      @fractal5764 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      There’s a Boba Fett show?!?!?

    • @Casshio
      @Casshio ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@fractal5764 Don't bother.
      Edit: Oh, I get it.

    • @jesustovar2549
      @jesustovar2549 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Casshio They say the only way to enjoy Obi Wan and Boba Fett it's in form of a movie, because those two were originally to be movies, there are fan edits that supossedly make them better.

  • @TheKenji2221
    @TheKenji2221 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    Star Wars fatigue arrived faster than Marvel's one. That's impressive

    • @Apac12
      @Apac12 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Because marvel has a different structure in terms of making movies, marvel had consistant leadership with 10 years of good movies, star wars was sold, and suddenly went from the original 6 + clone wars to constantly releasing movies and shows that weren't good. Marvel under disney had a pre established goodwill with people built over years, Lucasfilm had good will with people, under george, now george isn't there, the change from one mans vision to multiple directors and writers is what's hurting it, star wars isn't built to handle multiple visions from different people, marvel was because that's how they started. Disney is trying to turn star wars into a "multiplayer game" when it was built to be a "singleplayer game"

    • @jesustovar2549
      @jesustovar2549 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@Apac12 I feel like Marvel has gone downhill since Stan Lee died, but I'm glad he isn't alive to see what most Marvel movies and shows have become.

    • @elstcman5
      @elstcman5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lmao I understand what you’re trying to say. But Star Wars literally started in 1977, fatigue was always on the horizon, even during the prequel times. The fact that George sold it should have been a stronger sign of fatigue than anything else. He knew the fan base has BEEN toxic and impossible to please lol. Everything from these Disney years has just been a really expensive, really ugly victory lap with new owners who don’t understand the product

    • @gabrielespana319
      @gabrielespana319 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Probably because Marvel was pretty solid through endgame meanwhile Star Wars immediately started off with an incredibly divisive trilogy that in multiple ways shits on what came before. But as we’ve seen with Guarduans 3, Jedi Survivor, Bad Batch season 2, and Andor, people aren’t tired of these properties, they’re tired of bad products from these properties.

    • @reitakanashi532
      @reitakanashi532 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​​@@jesustovar2549 he wasn't Marvel CEO, he didn't even write the stories for a long time, MCU fans act like he was responsible for everything

  • @DavidDecero
    @DavidDecero ปีที่แล้ว +532

    Aw man. I'm already getting "Mediocre, sometimes good tv" fatigue.

    • @EmeraldLavigne
      @EmeraldLavigne ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Andor was pretty damn good, though.

    • @manbat4582
      @manbat4582 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@EmeraldLavigne for a star wars show

    • @ori.g4mi
      @ori.g4mi ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Andor was, like, the ONLY good thing Disney has made ever since the acquisition. That and like, two episodes of Visions.

    • @Vainner
      @Vainner ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@ori.g4mi mandalorian and tales were solid my guy

    • @manbat4582
      @manbat4582 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Vainner Idk what solid means to you because Mandalorian was disappointingly average. Expensive ass production backed by the most childish script and choreography.
      The only good thing about it was how cute Mando and Grogu's interactions were

  • @Literally-Brian
    @Literally-Brian ปีที่แล้ว +438

    I love that you referenced Ingmar Bergman because Disney actually got Max von Sydow; the Oscar-winning actor who played the protagonist in Bergmans most famous movie “The Seventh seal”…
    …and then killed him off 2 minutes into The Force Awakens.

    • @bencarlson4300
      @bencarlson4300 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      One of my favorite actors of all time that 99% of Americans know now as either old dude from Force Awakens or old dude from GoT. Same thing happened to Alec Guinness, and it would have happened to Toshiro Mifune if he had taken the Obi-Wan gig.

    • @parmesan5150
      @parmesan5150 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think he was also in ingmar bergmans hour of the wolf

    • @Montaggg33
      @Montaggg33 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@parmesan5150 and also in his "The Virgin Spring"

    • @caseytrelka0
      @caseytrelka0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Seventh Seal is such a good movie
      Watched it 2 years ago and loved every moment

    • @JordanFrgsn
      @JordanFrgsn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'll never get over this

  • @angrygoldfish
    @angrygoldfish ปีที่แล้ว +87

    "Stop letting me talk!"
    If only Disney executives actually asked that from their assistants instead of to open the door for them.

  • @whitebread3872
    @whitebread3872 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Am the only one who had a double take after seeing that The Force Awakens came out in 2015 it still feels like I just saw it in theaters

    • @dafphtthedislikeupdater7836
      @dafphtthedislikeupdater7836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ikr lmaoo

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Time is wild! That’s how I feel about all of MCU phase 2…can’t believe it was almost 10yrs ago now.

    • @emiliocerchiaro4386
      @emiliocerchiaro4386 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope, that definitely feels like a movie that came out 8 years ago.

    • @whitebread3872
      @whitebread3872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh yeah definitely it just doesn’t feel like it’s been 8 years already time really flies

    • @justafidemyself
      @justafidemyself ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Adjusted for pandemic it was only 5 years ago

  • @matheuslascasas134
    @matheuslascasas134 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    I would definitely be interested in Todd Field bringing his Tar energy to a Star Wars film

    • @kodyshaw6991
      @kodyshaw6991 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tar?

    • @BevaToothTiger
      @BevaToothTiger ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kodyshaw6991 its a movie, its pretty good

    • @Merlincat007
      @Merlincat007 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kodyshaw6991 Tár is a great recent movie that got some Oscar nominations!

  • @JackBob.
    @JackBob. ปีที่แล้ว +136

    You're forgetting the part where they keep hiring rookie writers for their projects, and yet they can't figure out why people don't like the writing.

    • @maxwellpeter5955
      @maxwellpeter5955 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ain't it ironic

    • @bend.7590
      @bend.7590 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yep, and the nonstop multimillion dollar cameos in every episode are really cutting into the CGI and production budgets

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just like videogame movies back in the day, though ironically those are getting....better.....oh man are Star Wars films the new "videogame movies*??

    • @Austen54
      @Austen54 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@bend.7590 Disney trying to explain why a 2 minute Jack Black and Lizzo cameo was a good investment

    • @caleblim6890
      @caleblim6890 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      “Let’s hire someone who’s made a couple mediocre indie movies and hope for the best” seems like Disney’s tactic for “reinventing” Star Wars and Marvel, and it’s really showing the limits of those people, because it really shows the difference between what a dedicated and devoted writer is and someone who is doing it because it’s a big paycheck.
      I bet anything people like Rian Johnson and Chloe Zhao got hired more for their status as rising indie darlings than for any actual solid pitches they made. Besides that, when they took on the jobs there was probably a minimum of research done. Compare that to the only indie director who really made it big on superhero movies; Christopher Nolan.
      Nolan went all in and read much of the Batman comics, hired comic expert and writer David Goyer to come in and shape it with him, and took his time planning a foundation story, and a sequel which built on it further. And even when Nolan didn’t really want to do a third one at first, when he got back into it he gave it his best shot and created a spectacular trilogy that is still regarded as the best superhero movies made.

  • @jeremyusreevu237
    @jeremyusreevu237 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Pretty much. Cynical Hollywood studios just try to replicate the universe of movies without understanding what made it work.

    • @jeremyusreevu237
      @jeremyusreevu237 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tonimashdane33498 Yup. They just think "Oh, it's [PROPERTY NAME]. They'll like whatever we do"

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@tonimashdane33498 ah, the awful, awful reality where Sem Mendes us a real director....

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hollywood has historically always learned the wrong lessons from big successes.

  • @WhispCommanderComics
    @WhispCommanderComics ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I think it's really funny how you can see in some of these shows, how they are bogged down with bad filler because they were originally meant to be movies

    • @PurpleNoir
      @PurpleNoir ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which shows? I’m curious

    • @WhispCommanderComics
      @WhispCommanderComics ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@PurpleNoir Obi wan, book of boba fett, and falcon and the winter solider definitely come to mind.

    • @idakev
      @idakev ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@WhispCommanderComics Nah. If anything, Falcon and the Winter Solider actually needed a few more episodes. The bad part was the action-filled last episode which deflated the whole thing - the typical last third of a Marvel movie stuff. It was so rushed. *Episode 5 was the best episode and it's mostly just the characters working though things* ... it would have been glossed over in a movie. lol. Sam, Bucky and John Walker were good characters to set a series around. Maybe I'm just moving out of the demographic for comic book movies/TV but I want less battles and more talking and the TV shows offer an opportunity for that. *I'd definitely take a Marvel version of The Leftovers* covering what happened to the remaining people after The Snap in more detail.

    • @Fanatic_Foremem
      @Fanatic_Foremem ปีที่แล้ว

      Filler doesn't exist in shows like that, filler is a term specifically for adaptions that need to pad out time for the source material to catch up.
      none of the shows you're referring to are adapting anything, you're using a term with a fundamental lack of understanding for that terms meaning. Just because a smaller character focused episode doesn't do anything for you, doesn't mean the writers made it just to extend the series out. Some people like self contained one offs, so they include self contained one offs.

    • @WhispCommanderComics
      @WhispCommanderComics ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Fanatic_Foremem Reva's entire inclusion in Kenobi is filler to extended out a script that was originally intended for a movie. So yeah, it's filler.

  • @Unformed8
    @Unformed8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "People got tired of star wars really fast"
    True in essence, people got tired of disney wars really fast
    Only shining anomaly being Andor, showing heights I'm not sure they'll ever comprehend

  • @JeanLucPicard85
    @JeanLucPicard85 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Presenting Ingmar Bergman's "Stürr Voæren" trilogy about Yoda's feverish PTSD induced decent into madness as he's slowly dying inside his swamp hut alone and forgotten while conversing with Yaddle's ghostly apparition (played by Bergman's wife ofc).

  • @thezombieflanders9394
    @thezombieflanders9394 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    All of this adds to the question, how the fuck did Andor happen? That show is something else

    • @thatginger6839
      @thatginger6839 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Best piece of Star Wars media since Return of the Jedi 👌👌

    • @HighLordComedian
      @HighLordComedian ปีที่แล้ว +41

      They said fuck it whats the worst that can happen we got Grogu money

    • @liaiouihhui
      @liaiouihhui ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@thatginger6839 I'd say it's better than Return of the Jedi, RotJ is definitely the most campy movie out of the OT with the whole Ewok storyline.

    • @thatginger6839
      @thatginger6839 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@liaiouihhui you're right about the Ewok stuff, but the Luke/Vader plot is too top tier to disregard the entire movie imo

    • @holydissolution85
      @holydissolution85 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      So many people dislike Andor because it doesn't "feel exactlly like SW " ....dummies...
      Or they have PTSD from all those Disney atrocities, so they can't recognise a good thing when it comes along..

  • @the_historian411
    @the_historian411 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love the homage to Dvorak 9th symphony 4th movement, from which John Williams I believe took his inspiration from, or how ever else you'd want to describe it.

  • @jaromstrong6545
    @jaromstrong6545 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I think this is your most accurate skit to date!

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All of skits are accurate! The one he did about the Tolkien Estate has been my favorite

  • @jamezday
    @jamezday ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I feel like the opening scroll on the next Star Wars film should be used to explain what happened to every directors Trilogy they were promised and how Disney screwed them out of it, rewrote it and/or reshot it. What about the Jar Jar Binks standalone film we were promised

    • @greyeyed123
      @greyeyed123 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "Izza people gunna makes a movie??"

    • @ChrisKeziahHyde
      @ChrisKeziahHyde ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't think people would watch 90 minutes of a film scroll explaining all of Disney's mistakes 🤣
      Instead just get Man Carrying Thing to carry the franchise

    • @james2529
      @james2529 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I googled this in a panic to see whether or not the Jar Jar Binks movie was actually a thing.
      I will purposely not say what I found in order to mildly annoy someone else.

    • @ChrisKeziahHyde
      @ChrisKeziahHyde ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@james2529 I know about the Jar-Jar movie, isn't that the one where they confirm that he was a sith all along? 🤣

    • @andy-gamer
      @andy-gamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisKeziahHyde *150 minutes

  • @liaiouihhui
    @liaiouihhui ปีที่แล้ว +281

    And yet through all of this chaos and the ashes, Andor rose up, I have no idea how it was as amazing as it was or how Disney let something like it be released with their name attached to it.

    • @ZackaryBiagi
      @ZackaryBiagi ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Yeah, it's really a shame that nobody really watched that show. There seems to be a pattern where the less of a brand the main character has such as andor or Mando at first, the better the show is.

    • @ZackaryBiagi
      @ZackaryBiagi ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @Bobby2889 I will say, with how good the show is in my opinion, it does drag through some parts. Especially 2 episodes where they're just planning an attack. But once you get to the prison episodes/ the finale, it turns into some of the best content star wars has ever had. You just gotta wait it out.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      ​@@robhardingpoetry The end of that episode is precisely when it becomes amazing. Keep going.

    • @terentule
      @terentule ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@robhardingpoetry It definitely gets good. It's true, the show in general might have different pace, but it picks up after ep.3. I think next 1-2 episodes might hook you. It definitely gets very very good. It might be worth saying there is also more than 1 story arc throughout the season.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's the best thing to ever come out of Star Wars. But it's in spite of Disney, they'll be content to just churn our more Mando.

  • @jakobeboah1
    @jakobeboah1 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    wow, i appreciate the dedication to hire the entire company of Disney for one video, good job Mr Carrying Thing

  • @viewtiful1doubleokamihand253
    @viewtiful1doubleokamihand253 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    David Lynch making a Star Wars-related anything is a great inside-joke for those who saw *that one* interview.

  • @journeytotheotherside
    @journeytotheotherside ปีที่แล้ว +187

    He really wrote, directed, produced and starred in a whole Star Wars trilogy just for this video, talk about dedication

  • @Mordal1222
    @Mordal1222 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    To think of how close we got to the Jar Jar trilogy 😢

    • @V1489Cygni
      @V1489Cygni ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The event that split us from the good timeline to where we are now was people rejecting Jar Jar, not giving Lucas either the opportunity to reveal he was the sith lord behind it all or to flesh out Dooku

    • @Marcell2aG
      @Marcell2aG ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@V1489CygniAgreed. The puzzle pieces were all there. That was going to be one of the greatest plot twists in film history. The bumbling idiot was actually the mastermind.

    • @V1489Cygni
      @V1489Cygni ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Marcell2aG as the man said, "Jar Jar is the key to all of it"

  • @mykmcgrane
    @mykmcgrane ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Every Studio/Stupid Exec sketch is gold. I'd literally up my Patreon teir to fund a miniseries about just this. Seriously.

  • @twenty-fifth420
    @twenty-fifth420 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The on and off Dvorak Symphony Movement 9 during the background is a perfect tonal indicator for Star Wars progressions in less then 10 years. I love it 😂🎉

  • @SteeZy644
    @SteeZy644 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Full disclosure: i like TLJ
    Disney not having a consistent plan for the sequel trilogy doomed it before it started. That shit retconned its own retcons that spun off into more retcons and now the fanbase is more fragmented than when Jar Jar was a thing.

  • @janpiorko3809
    @janpiorko3809 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    „Stop letting me talk”😂

  • @bencarlson4300
    @bencarlson4300 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Obviously a David Lynch SW project would’ve been bonkers, but I’m almost more interested in an Ingmar Bergman Star Wars. It would probably be focused on the mortality of the Jedi and the spiritual aspects of force ghosts and their souls. Might be interesting.

  • @chaserivera1623
    @chaserivera1623 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When you realize a movie ticket cost $11 and Disney plus costs the same but the shows air for two months so it’s like paying $22 for a movie ticket

  • @JeffCreates
    @JeffCreates 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “Stop letting me talk” is perhaps the best advice anyone could give to Disney and Marvel right now

  • @Ronam0451
    @Ronam0451 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I can't believe Kevin Feige actually called mr. Man as if he actually worked at Disney lmao

  • @amazingfan15
    @amazingfan15 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    this is spot-on, even more than you think, even down to Disney thinking we "got tired" of Star Wars.
    the fans weren't fatigued. they were disgusted. they were repulsed by what Disney turned Star Wars into, and they checked out.

    • @Pneumanon
      @Pneumanon ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Bob Iger was citing Star Wars fatigue mid way through the Sequel Trilogy! Uh, no dude… your movies were just terrible.

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Pneumanonwe were really fatigued with the same old themes, story beats, and imagery. They didn't do anything new with the franchise!

  • @j.b.c.a.
    @j.b.c.a. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Stop letting me talk"

  • @tangroro
    @tangroro ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shout out to Andor, not only one of the best Star Wars related thing ever made, but also one of the best tv show in recent years

  • @truthwatcher2096
    @truthwatcher2096 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As long as people keep watching everything that's vaguely related to something they like, they will keep getting whatever random stuff someone is willing to write

    • @reitakanashi532
      @reitakanashi532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Amazing Spider-Man Comics in a nutshell

  • @benperry0
    @benperry0 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Love the Ingmar Bergman reference 😂😂

  • @Mr.PepeSilvia
    @Mr.PepeSilvia ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "mediocre....sometimes good t.v." pretty much sums it up for me 😂

  • @darthbane5676
    @darthbane5676 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’d say that the solution is to tell different and well made stories set in the same universe instead of relying so much on nostalgia, but as Andor kinda proved, that doesn’t really get people to even give it a chance.

  • @vicman3122
    @vicman3122 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think that Disney should apply that same strategy that Sunrise/Bandai have applied to the Gundam franchise, I mean : touch your main line when you good enough ideas to do it and when you don't, try to do some spin-offs without touching the main time line in that way if you fail your fans can ignore that fail and continue loving the main product

  • @TerrenceNowicki
    @TerrenceNowicki ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Before "Here's Johnny," Jack Nicholson tried "THE NEW STAR WARS IS A SURPRISE HIT" as his catch-phrase in The Shining, but Kubrick felt that was "too cerebral."

  • @sejwok2628
    @sejwok2628 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Okay, so here's my idea: we bring on a trio of world-class martial artists, and then have them get eaten by space slugs after two minutes of screen time and zero martial arts."
    -Man Directing Thing

  • @freitchetsleimwor2406
    @freitchetsleimwor2406 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great job to Man for Carrying the Thing before it fell over at 0:28 that was a close one

  • @TheLoneGunman9
    @TheLoneGunman9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn, I was so excited for David Lynch's Windu series.

  • @CaptainNick-qe1vc
    @CaptainNick-qe1vc ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could not be more accurate.

  • @narisevansangynriivaama9903
    @narisevansangynriivaama9903 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Stop letting me talk!" 😂 The talking isn't the problem; it's just that some people are actually listening.

  • @Bruh-bs6do
    @Bruh-bs6do ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how it's almost perfectly split in half between the two parts

  • @geraldmerkowitz4360
    @geraldmerkowitz4360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "No more Star Wars"
    It hurts to hear but maybe it's for the best

  • @nowherels64
    @nowherels64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You come up with such good characters!

  • @TheAwesomeDarkNinja
    @TheAwesomeDarkNinja ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The Force Awakens just makes me sad honestly. I remember leaving the theater so excited to see Star Wars was back.
    Oh, it was back alright...

    • @popo0129
      @popo0129 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah holy I remember my cousins being so open and excited for the future of the next two movies... FUCK THE LAST TWO MOVIES... sorry I still haven't recovered from those... things.
      Honestly I keep saying I am glad its back for the kids but is there even stuff that kids can be excited for Star Wars wise? Like when we were kids, there were always action figures and affordable ones too. I could save up and get any character. Now it's like $20 for the small ones and hard to even find a Luke because they barely make any and they sell out fast. I guess the books and some of the comics are fine at least.

    • @TwoToRule
      @TwoToRule ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It was not back. There are only six movies.
      Sequel Trilogy? That doesn't exist. Stop making stuff up.

    • @popo0129
      @popo0129 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TwoToRule Huh must of been a bad trip then. Don't take drugs kids they really make you hallucinate.

    • @Gooberpatrol66
      @Gooberpatrol66 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@TwoToRule there were 8 movies. Remember ewok adventures? Edit: also there was a clone wars movie

    • @idawg7332
      @idawg7332 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Man it feels so good to have been one of the few people who thought force awakens sucked back in 2015

  • @wheatly3341
    @wheatly3341 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Igmar Bergman honestly would’ve done a good Revan story imo

    • @bencebotye3904
      @bencebotye3904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I value the cultured Easter egg of the fact that she inspired Gilbert Taylor.

    • @harrynac6017
      @harrynac6017 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@bencebotye3904 She?

    • @ya9thelatinogringo
      @ya9thelatinogringo ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@bencebotye3904 are you mixing up Igmar Bergman and Ingrid Bergman?

    • @MinecraftRick
      @MinecraftRick ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ingmar*

    • @bencebotye3904
      @bencebotye3904 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ya9thelatinogringo sorry, I missread/missread his name.

  • @noahmellemstrand4756
    @noahmellemstrand4756 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using Dvorak 9th 4th movement is a great choice lmao. Great work as always!!

  • @shiven513
    @shiven513 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn, Igmar Bergman directing science fiction related shots are the stuff of glorious dreams.

  • @corey4370
    @corey4370 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This man can’t miss

  • @somethingPhilosophical
    @somethingPhilosophical ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Stop letting me talk” - Kathleen Kennedy

  • @DumbFroggg
    @DumbFroggg ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao, you conveyed the excitement and the reservation so well!

  • @ruairicoughlan5429
    @ruairicoughlan5429 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couldn’t stop cackling at:
    *”maybe if we got some of that Tár energy”*

  • @emeraldemuto
    @emeraldemuto ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Since everyone’s getting a trilogy, when can we expect the Man Carrying things Star Wars Trilogy to come out?

  • @seankkg
    @seankkg ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To be fair if they were good people wouldn't have got tired of them so quickly.

  • @ReallyJTL
    @ReallyJTL ปีที่แล้ว

    "Stop letting me talk!"
    Bruh I spit my gum out at that one.

  • @trevorclive
    @trevorclive 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Stop letting me talk."
    I lost it when I heard that line.

  • @codylakin288
    @codylakin288 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Something I never thought would happen to me:
    Wondering what an Ingmar Bergman Star Wars film would look like.
    Wondering what David Lynch’s Mace Windu trilogy would look like.
    Todd Field’s Star Wars.
    Not that I necessarily want to know what those would look like. Not the intelligent part of my brain, anyway 😂

  • @SpaceMonke99
    @SpaceMonke99 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The state of Star Wars now makes me miss the Expanded Universe more than ever. That had its misses for damn sure, but the hit rate was far higher imo.

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Disney really came in like Walter Peck saying "Shut this off. Shut these all off." They literally could've just let the EU and LucasArts keep doing their thing and fans would've been happy, but nooooo!

  • @lightyearpig12
    @lightyearpig12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yoda: Good news, I have! The gum you like, go back in style it will!

    • @greyeyed123
      @greyeyed123 ปีที่แล้ว

      "I know that gum! That's my most favorite gum in the world!"

  • @rorangarrowson5
    @rorangarrowson5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last line is killer

  • @Echo-pz5mi
    @Echo-pz5mi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i just saw someone say they were glad andor wasn't political
    i'm still letting that sink in

  • @bencebotye3904
    @bencebotye3904 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Honestly if they would made the "Book of Boba Fett" similar to Sophranos, that would be wonderful.

    • @nameynamename3758
      @nameynamename3758 ปีที่แล้ว

      there was like one or two moments where that show feels like it's premise of a gangster show but star wars

    • @Casshio
      @Casshio ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nameynamename3758 And those moments lasted seconds. The rest was Mayor Babo (Yes, Babo. That wasn't Boba.) and his weird misadventures.

    • @nameynamename3758
      @nameynamename3758 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Casshio what weird misadventures

    • @Casshio
      @Casshio ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nameynamename3758 His time with Tuskens where he comedically explained how to ride bikes, the slap stick scooter chase, that time he got knocked on his ass immediately by some guys with shields or the one when he rampaged through the city of "his people" with a rancor, losing control over it after like 5 seconds, the one where he beat his old rival with the power of friendship and then at the end when he said, "fuck it, time to go, bye". You know. Fun Babo stuff.

    • @nameynamename3758
      @nameynamename3758 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Casshio i wouldn't call those misadventures im getting bored just reading about it

  • @NigelMelanisticSmith
    @NigelMelanisticSmith ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Star Wars Jazz really is called Jizz, then Tár would have a different context.

  • @MubashirullahD
    @MubashirullahD 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Mandalorien was super good. I want more of that please

  • @steve93pa
    @steve93pa ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Not gonna lie, hearing that rian johnson will never get his trilogy was perhaps the best news I received (yes, yes, I lead an empty life and I'm a horrible person; move on). That aside, the whole fatigue thing is relatable. I've lost track of which show to watch so I don't know which character ties in where.

  • @sandhyachayal5250
    @sandhyachayal5250 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoy the the side stories within the galaxy like Mando and Andor but don't want to hear about the jedi vs sith anymore Maybe more Star Wars with less Fan Service

  • @exoZelia
    @exoZelia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "stop letting me talk" me to me every damn day

  • @agent0422
    @agent0422 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sick Dvorak reference

  • @j.kearney484
    @j.kearney484 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    To be totally fair, The Mandolorian and Andor have been some of my favourite television as of recent. The former being really nice nerdy comfort food, and the latter being a genuinely excellent and clever show. I also really love Rogue One. The lows are low, but the highs are high.

  • @magicoddball1452
    @magicoddball1452 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    the only unrealistic part of this is that they didn't look for directors with good experience

    • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
      @Obi-Wan_Kenobi ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tonimashdane33498 Even while the Last Jedi was disregarded, I wouldn't exactly defend that film as being a good movie let along a good Star Wars movie.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi Nobody Cares about your opinion, so 😛

    • @arthurg.calixto3338
      @arthurg.calixto3338 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@tonimashdane33498 Dude, you're so pretentious. Visual art is not even a quarter of the worth of a movie

    • @EmeraldLavigne
      @EmeraldLavigne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi cry more - it's the best Star Wars movie.

    • @Lin_Eileen
      @Lin_Eileen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi It was better than every Star Wars besides ESB. Actually took some risks and was very well directed. You can not like the film but if u look at Rian Johnson's body of work you see he is super talented. I hate how online film crit bros tend to label artists as "untalented" just cause they make one movie they dont like 😂

  • @rorysimpson8716
    @rorysimpson8716 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would legitimately enjoy a David Lynch take on the Star Wars universe.

  • @hansdiamante8884
    @hansdiamante8884 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    glad to see dvorak from the new world being used

    • @joshgoulash4889
      @joshgoulash4889 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I knew I knew it, but couldn't place it.

  • @Kinoksis
    @Kinoksis ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Producer: "I'm just saying, an Old Republic trilogy could be the kickstart to a fresh and exciting era of Star Wars."
    Disney: "Uh uh. Or alternatively, you're fired."

  • @darknight10000
    @darknight10000 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I really miss the Expanded Universe. Not all of it was perfect but there was a lot of great material there that could have been made into new movies.

  • @dgeraldrunkle9304
    @dgeraldrunkle9304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see you using new world symphony, nice choice

  • @donutdonutdonut
    @donutdonutdonut ปีที่แล้ว

    "This does put a smile on my face"

  • @Gabi-ub8md
    @Gabi-ub8md ปีที่แล้ว +8

    And somehow Andor happened, basically the best film/show Star Wars since the original trilogy. That show demonstrated that people isn't tired of Star Wars, they are tired of mediocre Star Wars (everyone was also pretty hyped with first two seasons of The Mandalorian, which were very good, so it's easy to notice tha pattern)

  • @person_man1283
    @person_man1283 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    We need Dave Filoni as a fresh voice in the franchise. To truly bring in new characters that have never appeared before

    • @Azem_of_Earth
      @Azem_of_Earth ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Problem with Filoni is that he'll just end up reusing his OCs, IE: Ahsoka, Rex, Rebels crew

    • @Krmelj1308
      @Krmelj1308 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      New characters my ass. Dude can't make a Star wars series without a 100 Clone Wars cameos and references to Legends stuff.

    • @JeanLucPicard85
      @JeanLucPicard85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could be wrong but I think people are missing the joke here.

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm ปีที่แล้ว

      Who needs new characters? They messed up when they didn't start with adaptations in 2012. They would have less worrying about being creative or hiring "flavor-of-the-week" directors, even if they needeed to pay pennys to old authors.

    • @person_man1283
      @person_man1283 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JeanLucPicard85 oh they are

  • @yasielromero8236
    @yasielromero8236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn this was good, one of my favorite ones 😂

  • @SquigPie
    @SquigPie ปีที่แล้ว

    He never sleeps, the executive. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die.

  • @da_pikmin_coder8367
    @da_pikmin_coder8367 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember when The Last Jedi came out people were arguing we had "Star Wars fatigue". Just 3 movies: Force Awakens, Rogue One, and the Last Jedi. And people were blaming the fans saying we're fatigued and not in the right mindset to enjoy Star Wars. Seems like a joke now. These days Disney tries to treat it like their second MCU.

  • @grookey77
    @grookey77 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    omg i'm first to the party ! love ur stuff ur so funny

  • @jettpack9168
    @jettpack9168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the ingmar bergman comment killed me

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack ปีที่แล้ว

    they do so much that maybe i have a chance to score for some diying Star Wars movie as well

  • @eyez4yuh
    @eyez4yuh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved when man said he was carrying thing, then thinged all over the Empire. Truly one of the of all time!

  • @CarlMarxPunk
    @CarlMarxPunk ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a shame because the Rian Johnson trilogy would probably the best star wars stuff ever. At least we got Andor in the middle of that mess.

  • @cholocco2831
    @cholocco2831 ปีที่แล้ว

    David Lynch reference was a nice touch

  • @dietcoke759
    @dietcoke759 ปีที่แล้ว

    We knew how it was gonna go from the start