I saw Eddie give a tour of his 5150 studio for a guitar magazine or something and he showed them the hundreds of reel to reel tapes of music he had recorded but never released. No telling how many other gems are on them.
I saw a video and he said how his archive of ideas HAD been semi categorized, but the computer it was on fried. So it was only in his head, and he just had to get around to organizing it. (my memory of that is very loose, it's been awhile since I saw it) So would Wolfgang be the most likely person to be in charge of any unreleased demos to be shared, if that ever even happens?
This track shows how Michael Anthony was so underrated as a bass player! I'm sure these guys have a huge amount of unreleased material just sitting around somewhere! A new Van Halen album would have me salivating! RIP Eddie!
I have a feeling that eddie would have told Michael to simplify his bass parts for this song if VH were actually gonna release it. I'm going by what Sammy said regarding Eddie and Michael's professional relationship. Just speculation of coarse haha but I agree the bass parts here are kinda proggy in a great way. Great phaser? tone too.
@@totigerus Yeah, it's a lot more than just what Sammy said, in the 5 part Van Halen Fan Made 1984 Documentary (really well done!) Eddie dished Mike Anthony all the time, he would say stuff like Mike is just an average player & I (EVH) had to write his bass solos. Before the 1984 album came out, Eddie made Mike sign a document stating that he would get none of the royalties from the 1984 album, because as EVH said, he contributes nothing! Mike had no choice, either sign the doc or get kicked out of the band! EVH was harsh on him, & everyone said that Mike is the nicest guy you could ever meet! Check out the Doc, its all in there. Here's part 1 th-cam.com/video/arohd5umLgc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EFgBf0C34CrRdq0x
Man,I hope they release another album or two, you know they have it in a vault somewhere. Eddie lived in the studio literally, no doubt there's a gold mine of new old music that we've never heard. js imo 🇺🇲💪🎸🎤🎹🥁 miss Eddie and Van Halen. The world just isn't the same.😢❤❤️🩹🙏✌️
Well said my friend! I understand there are tons of unreleased music, Alex is the one holding it up, for some reason. I've heard Wolfgang & Sammy both say they want to share it with the world, but Alex, who has final say keeps saying no!
Mikey's tone was nice and punchy, and more prominent in the mix. When I hear this, I have a hard time believing that Ed had to "tell Mike what to play."
Me too. And I remember reading an Eddie interview in a rock magazine in the 80s where he said Mike sometimes wants to really let loose but he(Eddie) has to tell him to just hang back. He said Mike was an incredible player and people don't know that. I remember that article clearly, and man, do I wish I still had that quote still lol
Especially since Anthony's previous bandmate in Snake, Tony Codgen (Guitars) said in the "Van Halen:The Early Years"-documentary, that it was 'Eddie' that came up to him one night at a show Snake was playing, when he and Roth were looking for a bassist, and said to Tony "MAN! That guy is f**king GOOD! Does he play guitar?" Nah, those rumors gotta be false. Mike Anthony was probably forced to 'underplay', by Templeman maybe. Then again, if the bass gets 'too' busy in a mix, and the 'busy-ness' isn't 'adding' anything to the particular piece of music being played/recorded, then it just becomes a painful distraction. Most Bass players know this. But what was done on this track by Anthony was 'adding to' the sound of the track, in a 'good' way. Like what Geddy Lee did for RUSH songs. Those are the level of Bassists I'm always looking and listening for, and want to create songs/music with. And I agree, there's gotta be 'MORE' stuff like this! Will be up to Alex and Wolf to dig it out of 'The Vault', and release it, I reckon.
This is just not the case .I don't believe for a minute that Eddie needed to school Mike as wat to play .the first time Ed seen Mike in his band Snake 🐍he was so impressed with his playing and lead vocals that Mike took on while in this band made Eddie approach Mikey about joining their band .so had Mike not been a great bassist he would have never been asked to join
I wish Al and Wolfie realized how important this unreleased music is to us fans. We don't care about mistakes that were made during the recording of this stuff. It's pure greatness regardless!
I think the fact that you can even find this on the Internet is how they release it to the fans. They could do a copyright strike anytime they want and shut it down. Also, Wolfie might not have a say in Van Halen the band's assets.
@@johnhagan582 That's what you get if you have Eddie and Alex in your band I suppose . Sounds better with the Bass a bit higher in the mix to me though . I've lost a bit of respect for the brothers Van Halen after that whole episode with Mike and also Sammy
mandela effect? Mike has always been prominent in mixes , in fact the first 2 albums Mike encompassed nearly the entire right channel Listen to "dirty movies"
Imagine with Eddie owning a studio how many songs that were never finished or never released or just stuff her was messing around with probably literally hundreds of songs. And Wolf and Alex have possession of all of it.
@@crosslink1493Yep. It really makes me wonder, yet again… *WHY* was the bass always buried/dumbed down in the final mix on all those albums? I mean anyone who’s seen VH live knows what Michael is capable of. He can really play those 4 strings, and deserves to be held in the same regards that his bandmates were held in (with their respective talents). Instead they just pushed him so damn low in the mix that if you strain really hard, you might be able to make out root notes. I never understood the reasoning behind it.
I didn't even know this track existed until 5-minutes ago. Unknown ear-candy from the greatest band that ever lived... THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN. *Xmas came early this year. Thank you and stay awesome.
There are a lot of little "pieces" of this in later VH songs like Mean Street, Amsterdam, etc. The riffs didn't go to waste! And yes, MA's bass playing is great.
That main riff was telegraphing the "Fair Warning sound" that was to come a year later. Thanks for posting this gem, this is historical footage, and thus should be kept in the Library of Congress Vault of "Treasures from Humanity"... R.I.P King Edward 👑🎸👑
Wow an unreleased Van Halen track 🤯 That would have been a really great song fully put together with lyrics, but love it. Love that you really hear Michael Anthony on the bass too. Awesome
Same here. I’m very familiar with most of the bootlegged, unreleased/outtake stuff from the super early days and the first four albums era (1974-1982), but this one is brand new to me. I’m a bit baffled too, because this isn’t just some half-baked lo-fi demo. It’s professional studio sound quality. I’m guessing it’s from either the WACF sessions or the Fair Warning sessions. It sounds fully arranged and developed, aside from missing a vocal track. This period of VH has been heavily bootlegged and scrutinized through the years, so the fact that I’m only just now hearing this, or even knowing of it’s existence is perplexing to say the least.
I think maybe Wolfgang is slowly releasing some of the thousands of unreleased studio tapes Eddie kept in his 5150 studio. He had and entire wall of thousands of tapes of recorded stuff he had accumulated over the years. It would explain why there is no vocals. @@Shikta-poobah67
Thank you very much for posting. There must be troves and troves of this stuff in 5150, in Wolfgang's custody, and/or in the archives at Warner Brothers. IT NEEDS TO GET RELEASED!!!
It's all in the hands of Wolfgang. There is an interview where he goes on the record to say that there is thousands of hours of tracks in there. Enough for dozens of albums. Last I heard Wolfgang has been going through it slowly. The problem is, it will literally take years to sift thru it all and find those gems.. Which I am sure they are there. Look, if there isn't going to be a tribute show, maybe an album of old stuff could get released. Just sayin.
@@Greatsky yes , you are right, but Wolf is doing his thing right now and it may be years before he decides to dig into the tapes and find the prizes, also, his dad didn’t label the tapes so it’s going to be hard to find the good ones, better hire a good engineer to work on it
Always great to hear unreleased vintage Van Halen! Eddies sound was always so fresh those days. Gone are the days of running over to the record store to buy their latest album, knowing you will get the best!
Well, as far as that last bit goes (the thrill of buying the latest album as it hit the racks), those days ended for me in ‘82 when Diver Down came out. That was the first time I remember ever feeling let down by a new VH album, but it happened again not much later, when 1984 came out (though 1984 was an improvement on DD)… and then Van Hagar became a thing and I just quit buying the new albums. However yes, I do find myself getting a bit nostalgic for those days during the first 4 albums, when I couldn’t wait to get home, tear off the cellophane, pull out the record, smell the jacket, slap it down on the turntable, and blast it at max volume.
The riff at 2:06 made its way to Amsterdam, just before the solo. Also, the part at 1:26 sounds pretty similar to the part after the solo in House of Pain.
The riff at 1:26 is slightly similar to that part in House of Pain , but not quite. It is actually the same riff as that short intro of the main guitar solo in Get Up. Listen to Get Up starting at 2:42. It is sped up considerably more than the original version here.
Always great to hear new Van Halen. I saw them 4 times with Sammy and Dave solo (they still played mostly VH with his solo stuff mixed in) . Hopefully we will get a new album with all new stuff. I'll be waiting.
I love Eddie. I think he is the greatest rock player ever. But you can't say he's the best electric player because rock is only 1 style. Plenty of great players in jazz, fusion, country. Like Allan Holdsworth or Albert Lee, Wayne Krantz
EVH took electric guitar playing and tone to a place nobody else would have….in fact when you heard it the first time it was obviously new, different, uncharted and almost incomprehensible- I had no clue what was going on - all I could do was grab ahold, hang on for dear life and hope not to drown. Nobody will ever capture anything like he did and I say that with the utmost certainty. Nothing has come close….he was a true wizard, a gift from God and never to be imitated or eclipsed. Not only do I pity those that think they are good because they try to copy something they did not create, I laugh at them because they are missing the whole idea. EVH was EVH and nobody else….and he allowed himself to find his own way and that is why we all revere him as we do.
@@joerectifierI agree. But Eddie sadly couldn’t play with anyone else. He just didn’t fit in and used the same licks tirelessly. Just my opinion, cheers.
Some parts are similar to the song "Amsterdam". Also definitely hear some WACF on this track. I can just imagine whats locked up in the Vault. Please Alex release some of these songs while we are still here breathing.
I'm sure Dave wrote something for this and it's just great. There's gotta be a VH Anthology full of rare tracks soon or later. Come on, Alex! Release it!
I can't even begin to imagine the countless gems that have been recorded are are sitting in the 5150 studios over the past 35 years. It's a crying shame Alex and Wolfgang have not released a lot of these tracks and videos. So what if the songs are not a final and a professional album grade finish. Everyone would enjoy hearing these rarities, b-sides, and never-released songs.
Sweet!! In the past week I've heard a "new" Beatles song, a "new" Queen song, and now a "new" Van Halen song!! And even if I didn't already know this was VH, I would have known that this was VH. Such a distinctive sound!
I’d love to hear Michael Anthony’s thoughts on this lost track. Did he co-write and were there any vocal tracks written for it. I read yesterday that David was less than thrilled about the idea of releasing this old stuff. I disagree.
That bassline and the filthy dirty funky riff and tone. As others have said its the Fair Warning era and that was my personal favorite album. It was all very dark and dirty with killer solos. Eddie and Wolfie did a video of all the tapes from the 5150 era. Im sure sooner or later some of that might be released. It couldn't be better than this older stuff.
David passed up a lot gems from the guys. Don’t forget, David was tough to get in studio with lyrics. He had other personal interests which infuriated Edward and we know the end of that story.
@@WhyTheHorseface I thought this was recorded Live though (as opposed to Ed overdub playing both the guitar and bass at different times separately). Although later on Ed definitely was recording the bass for himself…Like on the VH 3 album in 1998….and on the three Best of both Worlds tracks in 2004 ….And even in Jas Obrecht’s old tape interviews of Ed you can hear him playing ‘bass parts’ on guitar and telling Jas to imagine them an octave lower.
Apparently there are more than 100 hours of unreleased material that Ed has in 5150 studios and enough music for like 4 albums worth plus 2000 hours of outtakes, rare tracks collaborations and demos that were from an old Guitar World interview from years back
Wolfe did a interview with Eddie Trunk on Sirius XM radio a few years ago and they talked about all the material in 5150. Wolfe mentioned that some of the tapes are so old they need to be restored or as he called it, baked. He said he will get around to it eventually and will need an engineer to help him. He's still young enough that he has time to go through all the tapes but he mentioned before he does that he's focusing on his career like his father wanted him to. 🎤🎶🎸🥁🤟🏼
No vocals? Is this an instrumental? It’s all pretty jammin’ except that I didn’t care much for that intro riff. I’m on my second listen as I type this out. It’s already growing on me, that riff is not such a hard pill to my ears now. There’s musical context to it. I really, really miss you, EVH. And those sound effects are special as all get out. Thank God for some more bass guitar spot-lights... totally reminds me of the bass guitar on the “You’re No Good” cover song. Thank you for posting this song! Thank you for reading my long comment. Have s great day!
Pearl Vari-pitch. They are basically roto-toms, with a shell. On Women & Children First he had them on the right side of his kit, above his floor-toms.
@johnsoos6907 Yes, that's it! I'm not sure where I got the name "vibra" lol. But, yep, vari-pitch is the correct name. Pearl didn't make them for very long in the 80s.
@johnsoos6907 And, yep, he had the Pearl vari-pitch toms above his floor toms for the tour. I always wished there would be some studio pics of the WACF sessions to surface, like the ones from the VHII sessions, so I could see how Al had his kit setup for the studio recordings. He plays everything but the kitchen sink on WACF, especially on tunes like Tora!Tora!/Loss Of Control, In A Simple Rhyme, and Fools and it would be interesting to see if he had the kit configured the same way in the studio that he did for the 1980 Invasion Tour.
Hearing this all I can think of is the treasure trove of Eddie’s stockpile at 5150 that Wolf is now in control of. And you all know that he will do his Pops proud. Can’t wait to hear some of that stuff.
I’m sure there’s lots more like this one tucked away from Eddies 5150 studio recordings. He was always outside the box , noodling away on things he came up with in his head & trying to capture on recordings. Maybe someday Wolfie can remaster some with an engineer & release a tribute album for us all .👍
Only WVH will ever give the ok to do something like that...I'm not sure we'll see anything for quite awhile given he's doing his own thing with Mammoth WVH and his dad would be more happy him doing that. Having said that...there would some gems in the 5150 studio that we'd all love to hear!
The quality on this is WAY better than my MP3 of this song! THANK YOU for posting it!!! (And was it called "Red Zone"? Is that what you hear at the beginning?)
Its known as either Red Zone or Act Like It Hurts; I don’t think they ever settled on a specific title, I call it Red Zone but comments were yelling at me that its Act Like It Hurts
The biggest Shame is that there are probably tons of stuff like this that were never released!
I saw Eddie give a tour of his 5150 studio for a guitar magazine or something and he showed them the hundreds of reel to reel tapes of music he had recorded but never released. No telling how many other gems are on them.
@@MadChiller wow! I hope it all gets released!!! 🙏🙏🙏
I saw a video and he said how his archive of ideas HAD been semi categorized, but the computer it was on fried. So it was only in his head, and he just had to get around to organizing it.
(my memory of that is very loose, it's been awhile since I saw it)
So would Wolfgang be the most likely person to be in charge of any unreleased demos to be shared, if that ever even happens?
Yeah, Wolfgang said don't hold your breath. He said if his Dad didn't let it out he ain't either.
@@williamlangeii4012 I understand what he's saying, but I still kinda hate it.
This track shows how Michael Anthony was so underrated as a bass player!
I'm sure these guys have a huge amount of unreleased material just sitting around somewhere! A new Van Halen album would have me salivating!
RIP Eddie!
I have a feeling that eddie would have told Michael to simplify his bass parts for this song if VH were actually gonna release it. I'm going by what Sammy said regarding Eddie and Michael's professional relationship. Just speculation of coarse haha but I agree the bass parts here are kinda proggy in a great way. Great phaser? tone too.
@@totigerus Yeah, it's a lot more than just what Sammy said, in the 5 part
Van Halen Fan Made 1984 Documentary (really well done!) Eddie dished Mike Anthony all the time, he would say stuff like Mike is just an average player & I (EVH) had to write his bass solos. Before the 1984 album came out, Eddie made Mike sign a document stating that he would get none of the royalties from the 1984 album, because as EVH said, he contributes nothing! Mike had no choice, either sign the doc or get kicked out of the band! EVH was harsh on him, & everyone said that Mike is the nicest guy you could ever meet! Check out the Doc, its all in there. Here's part 1 th-cam.com/video/arohd5umLgc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EFgBf0C34CrRdq0x
Man,I hope they release another album or two, you know they have it in a vault somewhere. Eddie lived in the studio literally, no doubt there's a gold mine of new old music that we've never heard. js imo 🇺🇲💪🎸🎤🎹🥁 miss Eddie and Van Halen. The world just isn't the same.😢❤❤️🩹🙏✌️
Well said my friend! I understand there are tons of unreleased music, Alex is the one holding it up, for some reason. I've heard Wolfgang & Sammy both say they want to share it with the world, but Alex, who has final say keeps saying no!
Not sure Mikey played that bass. Eddie recorded a lot of the bass lines and typically he did the more technical ones.
I’d buy a box set of these unknown gems.
A lot of their songs minus She's the Woman are ON their albums. The titles & lyrics are different.
Me too!
5150 has a wall of unreleased recordings, floor to ceiling, of this stuff.
Mikey's tone was nice and punchy, and more prominent in the mix. When I hear this, I have a hard time believing that Ed had to "tell Mike what to play."
Me too. And I remember reading an Eddie interview in a rock magazine in the 80s where he said Mike sometimes wants to really let loose but he(Eddie) has to tell him to just hang back. He said Mike was an incredible player and people don't know that. I remember that article clearly, and man, do I wish I still had that quote still lol
Especially since Anthony's previous bandmate in Snake, Tony Codgen (Guitars) said in the "Van Halen:The Early Years"-documentary, that it was 'Eddie' that came up to him one night at a show Snake was playing, when he and Roth were looking for a bassist, and said to Tony "MAN! That guy is f**king GOOD! Does he play guitar?" Nah, those rumors gotta be false. Mike Anthony was probably forced to 'underplay', by Templeman maybe. Then again, if the bass gets 'too' busy in a mix, and the 'busy-ness' isn't 'adding' anything to the particular piece of music being played/recorded, then it just becomes a painful distraction. Most Bass players know this. But what was done on this track by Anthony was 'adding to' the sound of the track, in a 'good' way. Like what Geddy Lee did for RUSH songs. Those are the level of Bassists I'm always looking and listening for, and want to create songs/music with. And I agree, there's gotta be 'MORE' stuff like this! Will be up to Alex and Wolf to dig it out of 'The Vault', and release it, I reckon.
This is just not the case .I don't believe for a minute that Eddie needed to school Mike as wat to play .the first time Ed seen Mike in his band Snake 🐍he was so impressed with his playing and lead vocals that Mike took on while in this band made Eddie approach Mikey about joining their band .so had Mike not been a great bassist he would have never been asked to join
I don't know why Eddie said that. Maybe he resented Mike and lashed out. It was definitely a lie, though.
I’m pretty sure Ed meant to play it the way HE wanted it played.
I wish Al and Wolfie realized how important this unreleased music is to us fans. We don't care about mistakes that were made during the recording of this stuff. It's pure greatness regardless!
Dude, She's the Woman was written IN the late 70's.
I think the fact that you can even find this on the Internet is how they release it to the fans. They could do a copyright strike anytime they want and shut it down. Also, Wolfie might not have a say in Van Halen the band's assets.
The bass should be this high in the mix all the time .
I agree .Mike's bass lines volume has always been turned down to a extent to where everything else was drowning him out
@@johnhagan582 That's what you get if you have Eddie and Alex in your band I suppose . Sounds better with the Bass a bit higher in the mix to me though . I've lost a bit of respect for the brothers Van Halen after that whole episode with Mike and also Sammy
Me too , a band should be a band
Makes me wonder why it wasn't. Hmm.
Makes me think that Eddie is playing bass on this.
That's the most bass I have ever heard in a Van Halen recording
Prolly why it never made it
Fair Warning was rich in bass too. Remastered VH albums are killer, now.
F.U. C. K. Album
It’s everywhere
mandela effect?
Mike has always been prominent in mixes , in fact the first 2 albums Mike encompassed nearly the entire right channel
Listen to "dirty movies"
Ummm...Push Comes to Shove...hello?
Man this is killer!! Wish they would’ve put it on “Women & Children First”.
Imagine with Eddie owning a studio how many songs that were never finished or never released or just stuff her was messing around with probably literally hundreds of songs. And Wolf and Alex have possession of all of it.
Hell yeah! Or even Fair Warning.
Where would you place it among the songs? Just wondering. A side or B side?
@@Gravyballs2011From what I’m hearing,
This is “A” side meat 🥩 all the way!
@@Gravyballs2011 It would be a good 1st song for B-side or possibly the last song on the album.
That unique guitar sound that keeps you coming back for more! 🤩
I know but Alex s SOUND is very distictive as well.
@@jonblackers4339of course you're 100% correct. The brother chemistry was some real magic. Alex is a badazz
Michael Anthony's bass playing is just all-over-the-place KILLIN' IT on this track! Listen to it again with and focus on his playing . . . superb!
@@crosslink1493Yep. It really makes me wonder, yet again… *WHY* was the bass always buried/dumbed down in the final mix on all those albums? I mean anyone who’s seen VH live knows what Michael is capable of. He can really play those 4 strings, and deserves to be held in the same regards that his bandmates were held in (with their respective talents). Instead they just pushed him so damn low in the mix that if you strain really hard, you might be able to make out root notes. I never understood the reasoning behind it.
@@Shikta-poobah67lars must’ve had a say
That Bass is Sooo Sick and Nasty . Damn I love this tune. M Anthony is criminally under rated .
WOW,an unreleased VAN HALEN track from 1980,all I can say is...AWESOME❤.
I didn't even know this track existed until 5-minutes ago. Unknown ear-candy from the greatest band that ever lived...
THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN.
*Xmas came early this year.
Thank you and stay awesome.
Same here...love it!
Same here, love this! I can think of a couple other songs from VH albums that I'd trade for this to have gotten made into something.
It probably didn't. I smell AI at work here.
An all instrumental album would have been awesome... give Roth and Hagar some bar time together... lol
@@gregparker1012what would give you that impression?
There are a lot of little "pieces" of this in later VH songs like Mean Street, Amsterdam, etc. The riffs didn't go to waste! And yes, MA's bass playing is great.
Agree...I can also hear the outro of Up For Breakfast at 3:16
I would just about bet my next paycheck that was Eddie playing the bass
Seconds of hearing that guitar and you know its Eddie .... That tone and feel is so EVH!
I’m a casual “classic” VH listener and I’m mad that this was never finished and released because it is absolute fire. Sick
Gotta be the most syncopated track they've ever done. Not your typical commercial track that's for sure. Exploratory at its core!
Yeah! That intro groove was really funky feeling for VH. Love it. I wish they'd have invested in this one for an album.
Michael's bass is kicking.
👍
Ed is probably playing the bass on this recording.
If that was Mike playing, they would have already had the bass buried in the mix 😀@@philfrank5601
@@philfrank5601 As much as I am a huge fan of Mikey, this does sound like Eddie's handiwork on the basslines here.
That main riff was telegraphing the "Fair Warning sound" that was to come a year later.
Thanks for posting this gem, this is historical footage, and thus should be kept in the Library of Congress Vault of "Treasures from Humanity"...
R.I.P King Edward
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Why didnt they put it on Fair Warning?
Wow. I also heard foreshadowings of Fair Warning on this one. How about Mike's flanged bass? Reminiscent of the intro to You're No Good on VHII.
Sounds like a lot of ideas that ended up on ‘Women and Children’and ‘Fair Warning’.More please😀
I agree...this sounds like a Fair Warning track however am I hearing hints of Romeo Delight 1:25-1:45? Whatever it is...damn good stuff!
Sick! this should have been released onto an album. Sick track. 🤘
This would’ve been a great track to resurrect on A Different Kind of Truth! Thanks for unearthing this gem!!❤
I hear parts of this sounding like "Bullethead"
Wow an unreleased Van Halen track 🤯 That would have been a really great song fully put together with lyrics, but love it. Love that you really hear Michael Anthony on the bass too. Awesome
🤘🤘🤘 Thank you for this. I thought I had heard every bootleg and demo from VH. Never heard this one though.
Same here. I’m very familiar with most of the bootlegged, unreleased/outtake stuff from the super early days and the first four albums era (1974-1982), but this one is brand new to me. I’m a bit baffled too, because this isn’t just some half-baked lo-fi demo. It’s professional studio sound quality. I’m guessing it’s from either the WACF sessions or the Fair Warning sessions. It sounds fully arranged and developed, aside from missing a vocal track. This period of VH has been heavily bootlegged and scrutinized through the years, so the fact that I’m only just now hearing this, or even knowing of it’s existence is perplexing to say the least.
I think maybe Wolfgang is slowly releasing some of the thousands of unreleased studio tapes Eddie kept in his 5150 studio. He had and entire wall of thousands of tapes of recorded stuff he had accumulated over the years. It would explain why there is no vocals. @@Shikta-poobah67
Just turned 59...recently. 🤪 Love Van Halen, and have to say, this kicks ass all day long. Thank You for posting this.
This is very cool! I was trying to place Dave’s voice in there along with Mikey and Ed’s vocal harmonies. It would have been another masterpiece! 😎
Sometimes it’s best to just let the music do all the talking.
Thank you very much for posting. There must be troves and troves of this stuff in 5150, in Wolfgang's custody, and/or in the archives at Warner Brothers. IT NEEDS TO GET RELEASED!!!
In our lifetime please 🙏
It's in the Hands of ALEX VAN HALEN
It's all in the hands of Wolfgang. There is an interview where he goes on the record to say that there is thousands of hours of tracks in there. Enough for dozens of albums. Last I heard Wolfgang has been going through it slowly. The problem is, it will literally take years to sift thru it all and find those gems.. Which I am sure they are there. Look, if there isn't going to be a tribute show, maybe an album of old stuff could get released. Just sayin.
@@Greatsky yes , you are right, but Wolf is doing his thing right now and it may be years before he decides to dig into the tapes and find the prizes, also, his dad didn’t label the tapes so it’s going to be hard to find the good ones, better hire a good engineer to work on it
Wouldn’t be a bad thing if they were reimagined under Wolfie’s label.
Always great to hear unreleased vintage Van Halen! Eddies sound was always so fresh those days. Gone are the days of running over to the record store to buy their latest album, knowing you will get the best!
Well, as far as that last bit goes (the thrill of buying the latest album as it hit the racks), those days ended for me in ‘82 when Diver Down came out. That was the first time I remember ever feeling let down by a new VH album, but it happened again not much later, when 1984 came out (though 1984 was an improvement on DD)… and then Van Hagar became a thing and I just quit buying the new albums.
However yes, I do find myself getting a bit nostalgic for those days during the first 4 albums, when I couldn’t wait to get home, tear off the cellophane, pull out the record, smell the jacket, slap it down on the turntable, and blast it at max volume.
😮😮😮 amazing!! Excellent playing!! My 10 month old daughter is dancing to the tune on the floor as I listened to it for the first time.
ALEX VAN HALEN - A league in his own as a KILLER Drummer with Brand Identity !👍😁
Even the stuff they didn’t think was good enough to release is awesome
This is F’in awesome! Should of been released as an instrumental. All 3 members jamming their ass off. I like when Al just changes the tempo mid-riff.
Damn this is awesome as soon as it starts!!! Enjoy the ride!!! Forever Van Halen rip Eddie the best rock shredder🔥🎶
When demos and jams from 45 years ago sound better than 99% of modern music.
so true
you literally just don't make any effort to listen to good modern music.
The riff at 2:06 made its way to Amsterdam, just before the solo. Also, the part at 1:26 sounds pretty similar to the part after the solo in House of Pain.
I concur
I recognized the House of Pain riff on my first listen. Now to go back and hear the rest of it.
And if you listen closely at the 3:16 that riff ended up at the end part of the song UP FOR BREAKFAST which Hagar butchered with his stupids lyrics
The riff at 1:26 is slightly similar to that part in House of Pain , but not quite. It is actually the same riff as that short intro of the main guitar solo in Get Up. Listen to Get Up starting at 2:42. It is sped up considerably more than the original version here.
@@adamgess5321 wow very close! Nice catch
😳 Wow! What a sound. I agree, wish it had been released!
This song/session has like 6 future individual songs. All based on EVH guitar riffs. Hell Ya. Incredible player in an incredible BAND!
I've never heard this! Its like new Van Halen. Thanks.
Wow. That first riff is frigging gnarly. Awesome find. I thought I had heard them all at this point!
Always great to hear new Van Halen. I saw them 4 times with Sammy and Dave solo (they still played mostly VH with his solo stuff mixed in) . Hopefully we will get a new album with all new stuff. I'll be waiting.
I heard at least 3 sections in this song that they DEFINITELY pulled out and used in some of their other songs. AMAZING!!!
Eddie was crazy good. Among the top three ever on the electric guitar.
Change 3 to 1... and you nailed it!
I love Eddie. I think he is the greatest rock player ever. But you can't say he's the best electric player because rock is only 1 style. Plenty of great players in jazz, fusion, country. Like Allan Holdsworth or Albert Lee, Wayne Krantz
EVH took electric guitar playing and tone to a place nobody else would have….in fact when you heard it the first time it was obviously new, different, uncharted and almost incomprehensible- I had no clue what was going on - all I could do was grab ahold, hang on for dear life and hope not to drown. Nobody will ever capture anything like he did and I say that with the utmost certainty. Nothing has come close….he was a true wizard, a gift from God and never to be imitated or eclipsed. Not only do I pity those that think they are good because they try to copy something they did not create, I laugh at them because they are missing the whole idea. EVH was EVH and nobody else….and he allowed himself to find his own way and that is why we all revere him as we do.
@@joerectifierI agree. But Eddie sadly couldn’t play with anyone else. He just didn’t fit in and used the same licks tirelessly. Just my opinion, cheers.
He is all three
That quiet section is just beautiful, and then the chords of the jam right after it. Wow.
Listening to Eddie never gets old! Dude's tone , timing and mixture was impeccable! omg
This is pure gold! As others have said, I'd also buy an album or box-set of unreleased tracks/bits/pieces 100%.
The whole band at their best. Just wish we could have had this for the last 45 years!
No question that’s some classic VH right there. Definitely has their signature sound, too bad it never saw the light of day.
Some parts are similar to the song "Amsterdam". Also definitely hear some WACF on this track. I can just imagine whats locked up in the Vault. Please Alex release some of these songs while we are still here breathing.
I haven't heard this awesome jam in a while. 2:28 to 2:52 has shades of Jimmy Page. Open the vaults!
I'm sure Dave wrote something for this and it's just great. There's gotta be a VH Anthology full of rare tracks soon or later. Come on, Alex! Release it!
I can't even begin to imagine the countless gems that have been recorded are are sitting in the 5150 studios over the past 35 years. It's a crying shame Alex and Wolfgang have not released a lot of these tracks and videos. So what if the songs are not a final and a professional album grade finish. Everyone would enjoy hearing these rarities, b-sides, and never-released songs.
Wish this was released on a album and the solo in this was killer
Wow! Amazing! And man I really miss Ed.
Yeah we all miss Ed Big time ! This really sucks he’s no longer with us .
Thanks so much - this lifted my spirits.
This is some alternative prog rock with a feet on early metal, right there
Would fit perfectly on WACF
I love Eddie's rhythm playing as much as his leads.
Imagine Mike’s bass this high in the mix on VH1, wow!
Sweet!! In the past week I've heard a "new" Beatles song, a "new" Queen song, and now a "new" Van Halen song!! And even if I didn't already know this was VH, I would have known that this was VH. Such a distinctive sound!
I’d love to hear Michael Anthony’s thoughts on this lost track. Did he co-write and were there any vocal tracks written for it. I read yesterday that David was less than thrilled about the idea of releasing this old stuff. I disagree.
I feel like this fits on VH2 even more than WACF. The middle part even reminds me of Light Up the Sky.
I was hearing that too.
Absolutely
That bassline and the filthy dirty funky riff and tone. As others have said its the Fair Warning era and that was my personal favorite album. It was all very dark and dirty with killer solos. Eddie and Wolfie did a video of all the tapes from the 5150 era. Im sure sooner or later some of that might be released. It couldn't be better than this older stuff.
It’s the demos from when they recorded VH1
Wow this would’ve fit on Woman & Children First ! I wonder if DLR had lyrics ready for this song ???
Can't imagine Dave at a loss for words!! ~☆☆☆☆♤☆☆☆☆~
David passed up a lot gems from the guys. Don’t forget, David was tough to get in studio with lyrics. He had other personal interests which infuriated Edward and we know the end of that story.
Phenomenal track! Really showcases the structural diversity that these 3 guys were capable of back in the day.
Michael is playing some magnificent Bass here.
Same here. The production, sound mix is way off the mark. Ed's guitar sounds like it's bleeding through the bass track.
Is Mike putting the bass through a flange at one point ?
Superb…and UNORTHODOX.😊
I don’t know if Mike is on bass here. Ed used to record a lot of bass parts himself (as many hard rock band guitar players do).
@@WhyTheHorseface I thought this was recorded Live though (as opposed to Ed overdub playing both the guitar and bass at different times separately). Although later on Ed definitely was recording the bass for himself…Like on the VH 3 album in 1998….and on the three Best of both Worlds tracks in 2004 ….And even in Jas Obrecht’s old tape interviews of Ed you can hear him playing ‘bass parts’ on guitar and telling Jas to imagine them an octave lower.
Michael Anthony and Alex were such stellar musicians. Eddie on the other hand, was on a whole other level!!
All the more curious that "DIver Down" had so many covers, when CLEARLY VH had plenty of original material they could have used instead.....
This goes to show Michael Anthony is an amazing bass player. Not just a good backing vocalist.
So awesome to hear this rare VH instrumental! RIP,Eddie
Hey regular people stopping by,that was just Take 1. Now imagine EVH with 2 drinks in, loosened up...could possibly crack the universe
Wow! Picking up some Rush vides on this. This is shockingly awesome!
Please send this to Dave to put vocals on it so we can here it in its entirety!
Better send it to Sammy, at least he can still sing and write.
@@anakina1have you heard Dave's music lately? He can definitely sing and write still......its a Dave Era song , wouldent sound right with Sam
We have ..it's called honeybabiesweetiedoll
Sweet,a new favorite VH song to start my weekend
Apparently there are more than 100 hours of unreleased material that Ed has in 5150 studios and enough music for like 4 albums worth plus 2000 hours of outtakes, rare tracks collaborations and demos that were from an old Guitar World interview from years back
That’s great! I wonder how much of that material would include full-band recordings versus just guitar or just bass and guitar, etc.
Literally one of my favorite grooves and Ed riffs in general ever heard from them
Sounds Mean Streets.ish. Great Track!
Wolfe did a interview with Eddie Trunk on Sirius XM radio a few years ago and they talked about all the material in 5150. Wolfe mentioned that some of the tapes are so old they need to be restored or as he called it, baked. He said he will get around to it eventually and will need an engineer to help him. He's still young enough that he has time to go through all the tapes but he mentioned before he does that he's focusing on his career like his father wanted him to. 🎤🎶🎸🥁🤟🏼
I can hear Dave too (in my head). Haha this is awesome. The riffage is solid.
How did this go unreleased it’s bloody amazing?!
Everyone used to bust on Michael Anthony, Listen to the guy! He's a bass machine!
Bet that was Eddie on the bass
That was AMAZING!!!! Anyone else notice that the beginning of the solo is similar to the beginning of the solo of Amsterdam? LOVE IT!!!!!
Studio A Sunset Sound....Very cool share!
Thanks so much for sharing, this is outstanding!
Great stuff. Cheers
No vocals? Is this an instrumental? It’s all pretty jammin’ except that I didn’t care much for that intro riff. I’m on my second listen as I type this out. It’s already growing on me, that riff is not such a hard pill to my ears now. There’s musical context to it. I really, really miss you, EVH. And those sound effects are special as all get out. Thank God for some more bass guitar spot-lights... totally reminds me of the bass guitar on the “You’re No Good” cover song. Thank you for posting this song! Thank you for reading my long comment. Have s great day!
I hope in the future they decide to officially release that would be so damn awsome
One way to tell that this is Act Like It Hurts from the 1980 WACF sessions is Al's roto toms, or actually Pearl Vibra toms, on the intro.
Pearl Vari-pitch. They are basically roto-toms, with a shell. On Women & Children First he had them on the right side of his kit, above his floor-toms.
@johnsoos6907 Yes, that's it! I'm not sure where I got the name "vibra" lol. But, yep, vari-pitch is the correct name. Pearl didn't make them for very long in the 80s.
@johnsoos6907 And, yep, he had the Pearl vari-pitch toms above his floor toms for the tour. I always wished there would be some studio pics of the WACF sessions to surface, like the ones from the VHII sessions, so I could see how Al had his kit setup for the studio recordings. He plays everything but the kitchen sink on WACF, especially on tunes like Tora!Tora!/Loss Of Control, In A Simple Rhyme, and Fools and it would be interesting to see if he had the kit configured the same way in the studio that he did for the 1980 Invasion Tour.
@@kevinwilkins3248 It sounds like he had it configured that way, when I try to imagine it. There could be pictures from those sessions. Let's hope!
Hearing this all I can think of is the treasure trove of Eddie’s stockpile at 5150 that Wolf is now in control of. And you all know that he will do his Pops proud. Can’t wait to hear some of that stuff.
I’m sure there’s lots more like this one tucked away from Eddies 5150 studio recordings. He was always outside the box , noodling away on things he came up with in his head & trying to capture on recordings. Maybe someday Wolfie can remaster some with an engineer & release a tribute album for us all .👍
Only WVH will ever give the ok to do something like that...I'm not sure we'll see anything for quite awhile given he's doing his own thing with Mammoth WVH and his dad would be more happy him doing that. Having said that...there would some gems in the 5150 studio that we'd all love to hear!
@@rr44yd8 I Wholeheartedly agree😎👍
I first heard this in like 2018 or something i so wish they released this back then as an instrumental its so good.
Great sound. Had never heard this one on bootlegs, fresh new material. Tks a lot !
Great stuff, Alex sounds fantastic.
Amazing! Thanks so much for posting this, a hidden gem
Dyyyyyyyyyam that would have been Badass to had that in my cassette player back in 80 or 81!!!!!!! Seen them Boyz 3 times in Nashville!!!!
One word. WOW
I didn't know the man but I wanna cry when I hear this.
What is the best 3 piece of all time? Van Halen or Led Zeppelin?
Rush is also an acceptable answer, but I think the mighty Van Halen wins it for me.
Awesome groove! Could listen to those guys jam all day.
wow, blast from the past. I needed that, thanks.
THE MIGHTY VH. Thanks.
The quality on this is WAY better than my MP3 of this song! THANK YOU for posting it!!! (And was it called "Red Zone"? Is that what you hear at the beginning?)
Its known as either Red Zone or Act Like It Hurts; I don’t think they ever settled on a specific title, I call it Red Zone but comments were yelling at me that its Act Like It Hurts
Why? Why now? This should have made it to album. I’m thankful to hear it. But still.
Yup, us VH fans would definitely buy a box set of unreleased stuff. Maybe Wolf and Al are putting something together?