Thank you Mayor Todd Gloria for allowing a one week stay of execution for train horns in San Diego to return. This video took me back to the days of 2009-2012 TH-cam when San Diego Depot was a popular railfan spot.
Love seeing these kinds of requirements take place, especially in SoCal where most major areas are no-horn zones, man I wish I would have been able to see something like this during my time in San Diego! Let those Nathan K5s sing!
@@carterpaulson2257 Thats great.Let them complain about it.The horn is to keep people safe.Its not worth it having more and more pedestrian incidents occur just because of a stupid quiet zone.
Awesomeness man! Another blast from the past yet again, F59’s returned temporarily, a P42 on the surf, and now this! And those K5LA’s on 6908 and 6905 are the truth! Bummer the Coaster Cab cars aren’t the same anymore.
lol the real horn alley would be in the CFRC sub in Orlando, Church Street to Lynx Central, a bunch of crossings, all though there is a huge quiet zone there for obvious reasons. I love the video! Amazing job!
That’s what I’m thinking! That shit sounded amazing! If they were all tuned and good like that I wouldn’t actually mind hearing a RL, even with the insane popularity of them we have on the rails today.
The so called great K5LA you mention with the Amtrak cab cars are the original 1st gen ones playing a root position B major 6 chord. The “horrible” raised letter K5LA you also mention are the 3rd gen ones, playing a 1st inversion B major 6 chord. They are all based on the same chord just different positions.
Looove 6908s K5LA, doesn’t even sound like a 3rd gen, sounds like something put on P42s in the 90s, and it’s perfectly in tune, with it harmonizing with itself. it’s just so perfect, Amtrak’s best K5LA system wide imo, sounds like a freaking choir
I'm all for train horns, I've been a railfan for 60+ years. But there are a large number of businesses downtown trying to conduct their normal operations, make phone calls, record podcasts, hold meetings and so forth. They were totally blindsided by this all because the Quiet Zone wasn't maintained properly. If I was them I would not be happy to have my livelihood disrupted. Of course, safety is paramount along the tracks. Horns can save a life! But I I do not want want to be narrow minded and ignore the broader repercussions of the unexpected suspension of the Quiet Zone. This situation needs to be resolved quickly taking everyone and everything, including safety, into consideration.
I stand with you 100%. Before the "Your probably some grumpy old person who doesn't like the horns" people start replying here I thought i'd say that. I love the horns as well. However, it is probably a rather "rude awakening" to the residents in San Diego. People just keep building and building more homes and that 'll never stop. The more homes the more angry residents lol. Train horns do indeed save lives but not the way they used to around here. (Considering they are all restricted and quiet sounding)
I live in the building on the left and these horns are blaring at all hours, day and night. 11pm, 1130, 1150, 130am, 4am, 430am, 6am…. And some engineers blow the horn 10-12 times in 1.5 minutes. I’ve lived down here for 4 years and it has never been a “quiet zone”. The trains have always used their horns intermittently (which is tolerable), but now it’s pretty much constant blaring. There has to be some kind of compromise with the volume and frequency of these horns and still maintain safety standards. The noise level is completely miserable for those of us that live downtown.
Sorry to burst your bubble but the railroad has been in this location since 1885. The building you live in didn’t even exist 15 years ago. These are considerations you should have taken before you moved in. The horns you are hearing are already a compromise of the decibel level for federal regulations. They used to be louder. This is a failure of the City of San Diego to maintain the crossings to minimum requirements for a “quiet zone.” The city was notified of the deficiencies and given a grace period of several years to correct the quiet zone issues. In that period, the city did absolutely NOTHING and hoped the FRA and CPUC would just forget about it.
The cadence and length of the horn blasts are written into federal regulation. The engineers are blowing the horn that many times in such a short distance because they have to perform the cadence for every crossing, and there are a lot of them between the Depot and Laurel St.
Great to hear horns have made a return to downtown SDG for a bit. Those older K5LAs on the Surfliner cabbies sound the best! Thanks for sharing.
05 sounds clean!
Thank you Mayor Todd Gloria for allowing a one week stay of execution for train horns in San Diego to return. This video took me back to the days of 2009-2012 TH-cam when San Diego Depot was a popular railfan spot.
Love seeing these kinds of requirements take place, especially in SoCal where most major areas are no-horn zones, man I wish I would have been able to see something like this during my time in San Diego! Let those Nathan K5s sing!
They shouldn't have stopped train horns in the first place
Same your right 👍
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan tell me about it what the hell is the Wayside horn for if a train can just blow their horns
Agreed
@@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan u keep saying whistle u mean horn?!
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan that's stupid how are steam locomotives required to blow their whistles but diesel locomotives can't
Yes!I love the horn zone.Lets hope it remains a horn zone permanantly.
There's a bunch of karens complaining about it on the news
Yeah I would love that
@@carterpaulson2257 Thats great.Let them complain about it.The horn is to keep people safe.Its not worth it having more and more pedestrian incidents occur just because of a stupid quiet zone.
@@carterpaulson2257Karen’s won’t get too far anyways
Great collection, nice to see San Diego as a proper whistle zone like it used to be even if its for a brief period.
Awesomeness man! Another blast from the past yet again, F59’s returned temporarily, a P42 on the surf, and now this! And those K5LA’s on 6908 and 6905 are the truth! Bummer the Coaster Cab cars aren’t the same anymore.
Nice hearing horns in SD after a long time of being a quiet zone.
Going Back to 1999-2015!!!
Finally no more quiet zones!
It’s temporary unfortunately, it will be a quiet zone again in a few weeks or months
lol the real horn alley would be in the CFRC sub in Orlando, Church Street to Lynx Central, a bunch of crossings, all though there is a huge quiet zone there for obvious reasons. I love the video! Amazing job!
Thanks
Ok but why does the RL K5LA at 13:32 actually sound really good. Nice shots!
That’s what I’m thinking! That shit sounded amazing! If they were all tuned and good like that I wouldn’t actually mind hearing a RL, even with the insane popularity of them we have on the rails today.
Thanks... ya the 6905 is an exception for the RL horn... it's actually good! Especially the quill, Smooth!!
Bored #3 bell
Yeah. Unfortunately most RL K5LA's sound really sour. Just bad in general.
6905 got its RL K5LA sometime in the early 2010s iirc
6900 has a good Horn ngl but 6951s has a Coaster k5la
This is amazing!
I'm sure the people living over there are not happy.
They can move
Awesome video! Great horn action!
Must have been a fever dream for railfanners, can only imagine the panic and utter nightmare this was for the residents lol
The so called great K5LA you mention with the Amtrak cab cars are the original 1st gen ones playing a root position B major 6 chord. The “horrible” raised letter K5LA you also mention are the 3rd gen ones, playing a 1st inversion B major 6 chord. They are all based on the same chord just different positions.
Looove 6908s K5LA, doesn’t even sound like a 3rd gen, sounds like something put on P42s in the 90s, and it’s perfectly in tune, with it harmonizing with itself. it’s just so perfect, Amtrak’s best K5LA system wide imo, sounds like a freaking choir
I wonder if permanent lifting of the quiet zone would take a chunk out of the insane cost of living in san diego. One can hope.
Nice seeing the horns sounding around here. Sucks that it's all raised letters for the most part lol.
I'm all for train horns, I've been a railfan for 60+ years. But there are a large number of businesses downtown trying to conduct their normal operations, make phone calls, record podcasts, hold meetings and so forth. They were totally blindsided by this all because the Quiet Zone wasn't maintained properly. If I was them I would not be happy to have my livelihood disrupted. Of course, safety is paramount along the tracks. Horns can save a life! But I I do not want want to be narrow minded and ignore the broader repercussions of the unexpected suspension of the Quiet Zone. This situation needs to be resolved quickly taking everyone and everything, including safety, into consideration.
I stand with you 100%. Before the "Your probably some grumpy old person who doesn't like the horns" people start replying here I thought i'd say that. I love the horns as well. However, it is probably a rather "rude awakening" to the residents in San Diego. People just keep building and building more homes and that 'll never stop. The more homes the more angry residents lol. Train horns do indeed save lives but not the way they used to around here. (Considering they are all restricted and quiet sounding)
Great video
Even if temporary it’s refreshing to see trains getting to make proper noise in downtown San Diego
Hell ya!! I love it
hopefully it becomes a permanent thing. Watching 2309 pull in to San Diego and people walking out in front of the train isn’t there is crazy lol
I live in the building on the left and these horns are blaring at all hours, day and night. 11pm, 1130, 1150, 130am, 4am, 430am, 6am…. And some engineers blow the horn 10-12 times in 1.5 minutes. I’ve lived down here for 4 years and it has never been a “quiet zone”. The trains have always used their horns intermittently (which is tolerable), but now it’s pretty much constant blaring. There has to be some kind of compromise with the volume and frequency of these horns and still maintain safety standards. The noise level is completely miserable for those of us that live downtown.
Sorry to burst your bubble but the railroad has been in this location since 1885. The building you live in didn’t even exist 15 years ago. These are considerations you should have taken before you moved in. The horns you are hearing are already a compromise of the decibel level for federal regulations. They used to be louder. This is a failure of the City of San Diego to maintain the crossings to minimum requirements for a “quiet zone.” The city was notified of the deficiencies and given a grace period of several years to correct the quiet zone issues. In that period, the city did absolutely NOTHING and hoped the FRA and CPUC would just forget about it.
The cadence and length of the horn blasts are written into federal regulation. The engineers are blowing the horn that many times in such a short distance because they have to perform the cadence for every crossing, and there are a lot of them between the Depot and Laurel St.