Is Young Justice As Great As We Remember? - Part 1 | A Complete Review of Old Young Justice 2010
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- It's time to go through Young Justice, an animated TV show that many people have requested I discuss. As I did with Teen Titans, I'm going to go through this show episode by episode, discussing everything that stands out to me about this show. There's a lot to discuss here, and I hope you enjoy it :)
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Hey there, folks! Just wanted to leave this comment here because I realize, for those of you who follow my Avatar series and Fullmetal Alchemist series, it might seem strange that I'm starting up yet another series.
Unfortunately, I was a bit sick for the last couple weeks with a sore throat, so I was unable to record. However, I did get a lot of scripts done. For example, I have a ton of work on this series already complete, even though I still need to tidy up some scripts, record audio, and edit. As of now, it is a five part series, where I go over 8 episodes each in parts 1 and 2, and 10 episodes each in parts 3, 4, and 5.
As for Avatar and the Fullmetal Alchemist series, most of the scripting is done for part 5 of the Avatar review and part 4 of the Fullmetal Alchemist series. So the only major stuff I have left to do is recording audio and sending sections off to my editor for him to help me with.
Anyway, just wanted to update you on that, since I know, without proper communication, it could seem like I'm starting up too many things without finishing them. Thank you, as always, for watching my videos. It's greatly appreciated. I hope you have a great day :)
Maybe one day you can review Batman:The Brave and the Bold
Thank you for making a video on this series, especially since the third season premiered yesterday.
I hope you feel better and take it easy, I don't want you to hurt yourself.
Really like your video análisis... But editing was king of repetitive on this one. Wasn't bad, I'm just a perfectionist, just wanted to say it.
I'm so excited that you're doing Young Justice as well! It's so cool when channels have multiple projects going on at once, it keeps you interested in what you're reviewing I think if you're not talking about the same thing every week. Also it gives people who aren't all that interested in one or two of the other shows a third option to watch. Anyway, great video! I'm super hyped for how your channel is taking off!
@Lowart Hey Lowart,
Would love to donate but I am afraid I disagree with recent actions taken by both Patreon and PayPal, and am boycotting both as a matter of principle. You seem like a level headed person so I assume you can understand the predicament that this conflict creates. Is there any other means by which I could donate to you? Please let me know.
When Kid Flash learned about Miss Martian and Superboy's relationship, the fact that he didn't make a big deal out of it won a lot of good will from me. For one, it confirmed that he legitimately didn't realize that she wasn't interested (and I totally understand how, even with that being the case, it could still be annoying), but more importantly, it shows that, despite how he acts sometimes, he's actually more mature than people give him credit for.
It also made sense because he had stronger feelings for Artemis yet he didn't realize it yet.
I think it could make sense in how she is oblivious to a lot of other things. He could be looking at it and assuming she doesn't realize what he is saying, and she often doesn't seem to catch it. So he assumes he has a shot as she will eventually catch on.
@@The810kid I agree with Mason Frost, but I always thought that Kid Flash started liking Artemis because he started realizing Artemis (somebody/anybody) liked him. Now, he could get some "lovin" from somebody on the team.
Me too 100% and since he was my favorite character, I was so happy he was mature about it.
Exactly what I was going to say. It shows that he is still a good (albeit annoying, sure) person because he wouldn't continue to flirt with someone when they're in a relationship, let alone in one with his friend.
"Why does Kid Flash eat all the ice cream?" I think it's a semi-unstated rule about speedsters in DC that they actually do need to consume calories to compensate for what they burn by running fast. So whenever they're presented with food they basically can't help themselves. Also, I remember Wally in JLU would flirt with women constantly, so I would think that's just how he is and it doesn't have much to do with Miss Martian specifically.
While that is true Wally does directly state it a few times in this show
It's actually pretty often stated, from a few references in the comics to a mention a couple times in the show, and to the Flash fainting in the first season of Flash(The live-action show) because he isn't eating enough, and Cisco creating extremely high-calorie foods for him.
nessesaryschoolthing yep all speedsters have to eat high calories or just large amounts of food. All that energy has to come from somewhere
@@rotimika Considering their super fast metabolism they should also poop multiple times per day.
@@jonaslinter what if they do but they poop at super speed so no one knows?
I almost feel like some of the villains that pop up are meant to be more like easter eggs for hardcore fans? Having something that recognizable to someone instead of just a handful of faceless henchmen.
Totally agree
Like the witchboy aka emo pilgrim
Greg Weisman (creator) has actually said that is true, and that the show isn't about the villains so he doesn't mind them being caught in the energy of it all.
Yup Weisman pulls out a lot of obscure stuff
He wants every villain to be developed. Which is ridiculous. Not every henchman and assassin can be developed.
"Is Young Justice As Great As We Remember?"
The short answer: yes, yes it is.
@laz kar : "the REAL answer" -- like your opinion is the "REAL" answer as opposed to what the video is saying? I'm responding to what the video is about.
And if it isn't so good, then what is a better show? I'd love some recommendations on what is supposedly better.
80% of the other comments identical to yours, you guys can stop commenting this now
@@jordankasa2491 : Uh, I posted this like immediately after the video came out. But okay?
I'm still asking what is the better show if this one is bad.
@@StefanLopuszanski im just tired of seeing the same comment on every video this guy makes, his comment section quickly becomes overrun with people just saying "yes" or "yes it is"
@@jordankasa2491 : Well... then maybe Lowart should start his video with that instead of baiting people into the answer for multiple videos?
The reason kid flash eats all the ice cream isn't to be cool but because his constant use of super-speed ends up draining him, so he needs to eat food that is high in energy in order to maintain his ability. He eats all the ice-cream as its likely become a habit and I recall the scene also ended off with a joke from The Flash or one of his parents laughing off how similar they were for it.
Dick King Barry just says Wally can be fast when he wants to be, since he just ate the ice cream.
I feel like Kid Flash's reaction was pretty healthy, maybe not giving him as much character development as an angered, overreaction but definitely the correct way to react after pestering someone for so long. It may have come off as a bit creepy or obsessive if he'd gotten upset in some way.
This is the show that got me into reading comics
Dont listen to him, the show is great and its cool it got you into comics. What comic series is your favorite so far?
@@SzatanistaDzezowy the show is good but it has flaws some my favorite series is earth one superman ,geoff johns teen titans , and recently that not dc is nick spencer spiderman run
@@SzatanistaDzezowy but i always look for more stuff, aquaman was decent enough for me to pick up a geoff johns omibus of aquaman
That's really cool!
Same- basically this and Greg Rucka's Batwoman got me into comics, DC comics specifically.
Young Justice was a huge education in DC for me. I learned about so many DC characters I've never heard off. Like I only knew about big DC heroes and villains. If you were less recognizable than say, Green Lantern or Green Arrow, I had never heard of you.
That means the entire main cast of Young Justice except Robin was unknown to me and it was a really cool to learn about these new characters with no prior knowledge or expectations. Now Miss Marvel, Red Arrow, Zatanna, and Kid Flash are some of my favorite characters.
Also cool were members of the adult league. Like I love Red Tornado, Black Canary, and Captain Marvel now. Their portrayal in YJ is the standard to which I will compare any movies or TV show appearances to. It makes me anticipate future movie installments featuring these characters more. (And in some cases it makes me mad because the characters were butchered or wasted in the movies).
And you can't forget about all the villains! Now I can point to various DC villains when I watch Arrow, Flash, or the movies and say "Hey! I know that guy/girl!" Once again, jYoung Justice was just hugely helpful in teaching me about DC characters and even DC concepts like meta humans, Atlantic, and magic..
”and Captain Marvel.”
Hehehehe😆.Lol, who the fuck calls him Captain Marvel anymore? It’s Shazam.
@French Bryan This reply is kinda late, but I guess I stand corrected.
>be Kid Flash
>can run faster than speed of sound.
>Met several people who can fly, bench Semi-trucks and control the Oceans themselfs.
>Does not believe in magic...
I feel like that event should've been used on Dick Grayson or Artemis instead because of how fucked their life is
Chrinik well the reason he doesn’t believe in magic is because of one of Flash’s villains Abra kadabra who uses future technology from the 25th century to mimic magic. Due to that, Wally just thinks that all so called magic is just futuristic technology or some type of meta human powers that appear Supernatural.
Soon after the team encounters Dr. Fate and Wally meets Nabu, that is when he is shown magic is a real thing but denies when Artemis asks if magic was real in Mount Justice just to mess with her.
All the other stuff is explained by science in his world though. It's like why Sokka from ATLA doesn't believe in fortune telling - all the other stuff in his world, even the spiritual stuff, obeys fairly specific rules.
To be fair wally Powers came from science since he recreated the accident that give barry his Powers
Season 1 is by FAR my favorite season. We aren't SO overrun with characters that we can barely keep up with or who are easily forgettable. Having just the core 6 with the occasional drop in from another young hero was nice and allowed room for all of them to really connect to each other as well as the audience. I liked season 2 a lot, but aside from maybe Lagoon Boy or Tim Drake, we really don't get the chance to get to know any of the other new members very well. Which is fine enough I guess. I would've liked a season in between where we could see Robin grow more into the leadership role and out of the Robin role, seen the two relationships grow to where they did, and been more slowly introduced to the new members in a way that they all get to interact with one another. Season 3 was such a huge mess to me I honestly couldn't really enjoy it. My favorite scene was when the original members all ended up fighting together again and Nightwing's fever dream de-aged them back into their immature selves.
Is YJ as great as I remember?
No
It's a billion times better
@laz kar Except it's not great it is greatly better
@@albertthepeacock8020 more like it's "Excellent as I remember".
Honestly I think season 1 was the best, 2 was good but confusing and 3 I wish Kid flash was in it.
@@kingkomodo9969 so far of what we can watch of season 3 it's pretty good, not being on an actual Network lets them tackle subject matter differently with a darker tone.
It's as crash as I remember, but darker
The villain thing feels a bit like nitpicking. Not every villain is going to get a lot of attention and Young Justice is a series that plays the long game, which isn't neccessarily bad and often makes plot threads coming together satisfying and is the reason villains often disappear for a while. Again not every villain needs to be significant and there are several who are (Lex, Sportsmaster, Cheshyre, Savage, Manta, etc.) and I feel thats enough. And of course the show is limited by its run time. It was a kid's show at launch, with a ton of restrictions and had appeal to kids as much as possible, which is what likely led to its pacing being faster, along with the fact that they wouldn't be able to wrap up all of their plot threads.
Agreed, it felt incredibly nitpicky. I think people need to get over the idea that every single character we interact with needs some long overarching development.
I agree mostly for the fact that having all these other less significant villains helps it feel more like a living world where the villainy that The Team has to deal with isn't just limited to the plot-relevant villains. I just wish Joker wasn't among the ones who weren't plot relevant, especially when other big names like Lex, Black Manta, Ra's, Vandal Savage and Darkseid were.
Course, this wouldn't be the last time Joker got shafted in favor of Ra's coughbewarethebatmancough
It gets so much better with season three! The new heroes and how they relate to actual issues in real life (Metahuman trafficking has very similar characteristics to sex trafficking and human trafficking in the modern world) the third season was amazing. Still, it wasn't as good as season 2 (that is my personal favorite solely because of Artemis in that season). Besides that, Outsiders did an amazing job and should be praised for listening to their audience and including the adult themes we have been looking for.
13:10 uuuuuh no. You clearly missed what they were shooting for. Ms Martian and superboy compliment each other because they both consider themselves earthlings, but not humans. Your accusation of Ms Martian only liking Connor based off of his appearance is completely ludicrous considering Superboy literally states that, above everyone else, M'gaan (as a telepath) sees him for who he is INSIDE. Not out. This is only highlighted by Superboy's aging conditions and Ms Martian's shape-shifting powers. It is stated so clearly that M'gaan and Connor share a psychic connection over a physical one, yet people STILL seem to be under the impression that she only likes him for his looks. Christ.
I mean he somewhat resembles Conner from Hello Meagan, and she even names him after that Conner.
But they do get moments for the initial attraction, and then get to know each other better.
@@mattisonfroese4092 Agreed. It was selfish of her to name Conner after her "ideal boyfriend" but like, that's not the foundation of their relationship
Beautifully written comment
They're relationship is bad for me because they keep getting back together when they still need to work out of all of their issues. The issues they have need time to be fixed and cannot be just be a one-conversation type deal. They need to take a break from each other before marriage.
@@hail9794 Didn’t they? They spend majority of season 2 apart and correct me if I’m wrong they don’t get back together until Outsiders which is years later.
S1 of Young Justice is so golden. The only season I could really get in to...
Young Justice is the best interpretation of the DC universe. Every main character is interesting and fleshed out and it opened me up to new heroes/villains that I knew nothing about
no
serenityq26 go ahead and try to name another dc show or movie better than Young Justice. Hint: you can’t
LJ Batman the animated series, Superman the animated series, Justice League and its sequel Unlimited. Need I say more?
Titan990 the only one that even comes close is Justice League Unlimited, and Young Justice is still significantly better
LJ lol no Batman the animated runs circles around Young Justice and JLU is essentially Young Justice but better.
Your hate on Wally is triggering me, why hate on the best character
Joaquin J Fernandez he rly IS the best character
Because guys pursuing women who show no interest is an issue that the show couldve addressed more seriously but it didnt.
I wasnt bothered as much as Lowart, i just cringed a bit. But i do agree they couldve shown Flash reflect on his behaviour later on in a small way.
@@ordinarytree4678 The show doesn't say he is right. It points out that Wally is an immature KID. Come season 2 he rarely if ever makes a pass at Megan, he matures and no longer acts the way he did. Showing a character grow and develop is a great way to handle a subject like unwanted remarks. Especially for a children's cartoon.
Ordinary Tree What the guy above me said
Joaquin J Fernandez Because he was arguably the most undeveloped character from the main 6 characters.
-Superboy had to deal with his anger and him not being worthy for the mantle of superman.This is due to Superman not seeing superboy as his son/brother and him being a kryptonian human hybrid.(as he is weaker than superman)
-Robin had to deal with him wanting to be a different hero than Batman.(He doesn’t want to make decisions that kills his friends.)
-Miss Martian wants to be accepted by her friends and later she is scarred by accidentally harming her friends with her powers(she is scared that her powers will make her friends not accepting of her.)
-Artemis has to deal with her villain parentage and wants to branch out from her family being villains.She is also insecure about being one of the few in the team that does not have powers.
-Aqualad's character development is in the whole of season 2 was about his grief of Tula and not wanting to be the leader after him being scarred mentally by Megan's powers on accident.
Then what did we get with Kid Flash? that he needs to be more open with how some things just can't be explained.And suddenly they removed him from the team in season 2 and has to share the spotlight with Impulse where they later killed him off.Do the writers seriously expect us to care about a barely developed character compared to the rest of the team?
I admit the episodes where it was Wally centric was rather interesting to watch,especially the one where he has to save a girl's life while on a time limit and declines the gift of a sword as a souvenir.
They should have explored more in season 2 about how he was insecure about his speed being slower than the Flash and Impulse,and the potential for character development was there. Its just a shame the show was cancelled in season 2 so abruptly where the potential for that development is now gone.
the answer is yes. Its as great as we remember. I finished watching all the first two seasons 2 days ago
Time skip
Is the 2nd Season worth it btw? Several years ago I watched the 1st season and the 1st 3 episodes of S2 but I lost interest in s2. Now I finished rewatch of s1(loved it as before) but apprehensive about continuing the series.
Especially the time skip and the new characters.
@@EspeonMistress00 I actually just finished both season 1 and 2 recently lol. I agree that the time skip is a little unwelcoming at first, with so many new characters, certain events they kinda just gloss over, and the obvious changes of the team. But at least for me, it got really interesting as I got to watch more of it. I thinks they did justice (see what i did there) to the most of the new characters while still keeping the old cast interesting. Again, there are a lot of things different about season 2 but imo it's worth it in the end. There are some gripes I have about how it ended but all in all I'd say it's a worthwhile watch. Tbh, I don't know how I feel about season 3, though. I just started watching the first couple of episodes and it just kinda seems boring but I'll give it a chance.
My personal opinion: Season 1 is great, almost perfect even.
The second season suffers, both from the time skip, and from an excess of new characters. It divides our attentions and leaves a lot of plot threads unresolved.
God, LOOK at the art style, it was so good in these seasons. Season 3 really stepped down
I have only one problem with Young Justice 1 and 2. The time skip. After Weismann and Co. wrote such amazing characters and perfect dynamics, they really needed to skip 5 years of their lives for the second season?
We see Zatanna in the team for like 5 episodes. Then, first episode of season 2, she is promoted to Justice League. Her relationship with Robin goes completely offscreen. They introduce Rocket in the LAST episode, and they did well. But we don't get any more of her. Until we see in season 3 that she is getting married. Maybe, if we had time to get acquainted with her, we would have cared.
In season 2 we are forced to watch the crisis of the couple "Bumblebee-Guardian". Apparently, things are not going as smoothly between them as in high school. Again, if we had seen them on screen before, fighting the evil, we could have cared about them.
Also we learn by second hand that Tula and Garth were part of the team, but she died, and this affected Aqualad a lot. Why we couldn't see something of their joining the team, the dynamics with the other members, the bonds, the mourning?
Weismann cannot make me care of his characters and then timeskip them out, jumping through crucial moments of their development. He owes us something of those 5 years.
In short, season 1 is near to perfection. Season 2 would be great if it were the 4th.
You are so right, it would be better for Greg to make up for those five years.
Hey Lowart, just wanted to chime in on the Wally portion:
I believe that the show sets up Wally's exaggerated flirtations with an obviously disinterested and oblivious Miss Martian as a way of making fun of him, but it also goes in-depth about how this attitude is actually a coping mechanism for dealing with his repressed feelings towards Artemis. The therapy episode sets this up pretty well so I'd suggest rewatching it with this in mind.
It doesn't make him look great, but I don't think he's overstepping any boundaries as M'Gann doesn't really see him as a nuisance. He's harmless and he grows out of it.
The thing with Kid Flash and Artemis is the old “if they fight constantly they secretly love each other” cliche which I personally hate.
Jayk Shelvandar I get the deeper reasoning for them not initially liking each other but them getting together romantically is based on that idea. It’s them getting together romantically that makes me see it as “if they fight constantly they secretly love each other”, if they didn’t get together but still warmed up to each other after getting over their own problems (and in Wally’s case he opens up to Artemis about his reasons for wanting Roy on the team but he does go onto say Artemis doesn’t have anything to prove). I get what you’re saying I do and I’m not trying to argue or anything just giving my thoughts.
Finally somebody who realizes how unhealthy their relationship started off. Seriously, I hate how much this cliche is romanticized
It’s not exactly a cliche because it happens in real life a lot too believe it or not
@@MrYoungzay I wish it was a cliche but almost every single relationship I have ever been in started off with us fighting because we liked each other (it is also a classic thing that happens with hormonal teenagers who don't know how to handle their emotions). It does happen but when I watched the show I did not see them fighting because they liked each other. It took Artemis a long time to warm up to Wally and vice versa. They fought because they disliked each other and you can gradually see that over time the more they liked each other the less they started fighting about small things and the more they started becoming flirty. I do enjoy the fact this we are having this discussion so long after the release of this show and how we view certain aspects of the show based off of our own personal lives.
@@bushmg1061 fair enough.
I don’t really get the complaint of too many villains. This show isn’t the only one that does it. Shows like Justice League and Avengers: EMH also spammed a lot of villains and only a few mattered. Yet, they don’t get criticized for it.
I'm not interested in the résumé and personal history of every single villain anyway, all the villains in the series had a motivation at least for what they were doing at the time, and that's more than enough already. Anything more would have just sidetracked the plot.
@@Kaefer1973 I agree
You know, strangely, Ken and Enza's relationship, the scenes where he talks about her, and especially the opening with the fake psychic, are some of the strongest stand outs in the whole series. Along with pretty much everything Ms. Martian.
I can remember then very clearly despite not having watched in a long time. Though that's likely more to do with my tastes.
I disagree on the point about too many villains. The show’s approach, of just shotgunning most of them and developing a very select few, contributes to a sense that supervillains aren’t special to these kids, they’re just an expected part of the job.
It makes their lives as superheroes feel more normal and relateable. Some people deal with annoying retail customers, the team deals with supervillains.
17:17 I personally fell was put in to remind the viewers/introduce his increased metabolism because of his super speed
As someone who watched it for the first time two years ago, yes it is great.
"Is Young Justice as Great as we Remember?"
The answer: "Season 1 and 2 yes Season 3 requires a separate review"
season 3 was dope
@lɐɯɹou ɐ Spider nah it was dope
Season 2 was awful and Season 1 was ok but not that good .
Season 3 was shit upon shit upon even dirtier shit
@@underdogtv2855 what?
I think the romace is fully authentic to how a group of 12-15 year olds would act. As soon as season 2 starts, they become significantly more mature
I'm not a fan of the time jumps, these heroes are not so young anymore, the 4S will be call Young Justice: mid-life crisis; Haha! you know how much DC loves crisis.
if they have a s4
True,I loved season 1,season 2,not so much.
@@NarcoticVibes i liked s2
The original team is still relatively young. Megan ages slower than humans, Connor is 5, and Dick is about the same age as Roy when he was going to join the team.
neither am I a fan of yours
I'd say I agree with most of your comments except the villain one. Who cares about the legion of *background* villains (for the most part). They're essentially henchmen but with cooler designs, operate that way in the story, and most importantly are portrayed that way on screen. Or they're B- villains meant to serve as obstacles and learning opportunities for the actual main cast. I *would* say the season lacks a strong central figure for the Light though which is an actual problem as they were supposed to be a threat. I don't mean strong as a character like Artemis or Robin is strong as a character because this isn't the type of show to care and I don't care about villains or them feeling fleshed out either. But they weren't strong in that they didnt feel like they posted a legitimate threat to the state of the world for a good chunk of season 1.
Season 2 I'd say they actually did a better job of making the villains into a threat that clearly permeates all life on Earth and had the power to mess with reputations and hero standing as well. They weren't "interesting" like people seem to want villains to suck up all the story from the heroes for some reason, but they were threatening and we knew why they were doing what they were doing which is supposed to be the point. And I think they learned from season 1 in that regard. That's probably the only real improvement from season 1 to 2.
Can someone give me a summary of what this nigga just said
@@youngkiller3618 Background villains are obstacles for the main crew
One problem that was in this was how they treated Dr Fates helmet. It was always presented as a be all end all superweapon that would provide you with godlike power but is used as a last resort. But everytime someone does make the decision and puts it on, rather than becoming a superweapon, they quickly get their asses kicked negating the huge decision of putting it on.
This show was an important part of my childhood and I am so happy to see the show come back after the show was prematurely cancelled
The answer to this better be "yes" or "better than we remember". Love this show. I don't want to have to fight you.
With the KF being a flirt... thing (I can’t call it a plot point cuz it’s not) I honestly saw that and really didn’t see an issue with it.
Lemme explain, I didn’t see an issue with it because I’ve seen this happen to people close to me before and how we see Wally is how it feels to watch something that is misinterpreted as flirting get drawn out WAY too far and even tho the subject of said “affections” can be as obvious as humanly possible- even sometimes flat out saying- that they’re not interested. It’s uncomfortable to anyone who’s been on the receiving end or been in Rob/Kon/Kaldur’s shoes, but I always thought that might’ve been the point. Bringing forward the minor aspect of KF’s character as a whole and getting it to the point where it could turn you away from the character.
Like I’ve said I had to watch this happen to friends of mine and I always wanted to just walk up to the person and knock some sense into them (I say person, but I can for sure say that this seems to be largely a guy thing, in my experience), I finally did and it literally changed nothing (except get me in trouble).
Yet when I rewatched this show back in 2016 with a mass crew of friends, first time since the airing, by the time Artemis told Wally about SuperMartian I had quite a few of the guys turning to me and the girls and asking if that’s what it really felt like. Did it feel like it was blocky and uncomfortable as KF made a viewer feel, and when they finally dropped it- only after the object of their affections had clearly gotten with someone else- did it really make you question if it was all just for a dissatisfied huff?
All of us said yes.
*WE NEED ANOTHER SEASON!!!*
There is one. It's 3 episodes in
You have to watch it illegally or pay for the DC subscription service
shigraki is best boi but he's still crusty In US it'll only be available on the streaming service but it'll be available on Netflix overseas when the season is finished, take Titans for example, I live in India and it's going to be available to me on Netflix in a few days, the reason Netflix waited so long even though Titans debuted in October is due to Netflix's philosophy on how content should be consumed (binged) . Also the reason why it's available on Netflix overseas but not in the us is because DC's streaming service is only available in the us. I encourage people to buy the service rn so they get encouraged to make more YJ. This comment is unnecessarily long sorrz.
@@shivpuri5769 yeah that I know the feeling.
UniqueNameGuy WAIT WHAT???
Is Young Justice As Great As I Remember?
No
It's better
Nah, it actually gets better every time you watch it.
YOU DARE QUESTION THE GREATEST SHOW OF ALL TIME
YOUR BLASPHEMY SHALL BE PUNISHED FOOL
"A cool kid who eats all the food at the parties. You can't stop him"
Kid Flash (Wally West) is one of my favorite characters in the comics and even in his short stint in teen titans. I liked him in young justice, however I feel this series did him rather dirty and made him fairly one note compared to the other characters. A majority of his character in the first season is reduced to his crush on ms.martian and it makes him feel really really empty and underdeveloped.
Why hate for Kid Flash? Thought he was good character though I can see why people find him annoying at times. Its kinda part of his charm to be like that.
Also I can see the point about the villains. Its this one group, no its another group next episode, while they didn't spent much time on none of them to develop and get to know them. Watched Justice League cartoon so knew about Vandal Savage and others but can see how somebody unfamiliar with anybody other then famous ones like Joker or Lex Luthor could be confused. Did enjoy main characters. They got pretty good development at least in season 1.
I think the best thing about this show is that it shows off a lot of characters and gives you room to do your research.
Also I truly believe you're not missing out on some of them. The majority of them dont have full backstories.
Ina world where theres full of villains and heroes, we also didnt get backstories on a lot of heroes. The show was made for DC fans and it's a simple google search to know who they are.
I love kid flash he was the comic relief of the show. He was very funny.
Kid Flash was my favorite.
Meanwhile KF was always my favorite character.
Ah, one of my favorite superhero shows! (:
Just wait until you get to Season 2.
It even MORE ambitious with fewer episodes, oh and there's a 5 year time skip and an more ongoing plot. That's probably where it starts to get way too ambitious.
Season 3 only has 3 episodes out. It it's clear it's going to try and balance it better than season 2. Oh and also, it's PG13 now but still somehow pushing the rating to it's limits.
@@Stefantius
So streaming sites have no standards?
So happy to see you're tackling another animated DC show! Your Teen Titans overviews continue to be a fun watch, as are your FMA analyses. You may not recall, but we had a brief conversation about a certain artistic choice Arakawa had for portraying Alphonse in certain emotional situations, and during that, you encouraged me to try at making my own analysis videos, which I'm happy to say I'm in the process of doing! So, thanks again for that, and keep up the quality content!
I'm rewatching this series so I can observe season 4, and I think one of my favorite moments in the whole series is Aqualad simply listing off in Season 1 why his teammates aren't ready to be leaders.
Each of his teammates fills an archetype you would usually associate with leaders in other shows, so turning it back on its head is a great way to show and not tell why he's the most suited at that moment.
I love how that comes back around when they actually become leaders. Like Megan being less eager to please and Conner being more levelheaded
I would love if someone talked about superboy and icicle jr. Relationship
I love this series that you have. You have done all of my favorite shows so far. Love the attention to detail you have. Glad I subscribed
Wally is my favorite character and I love him but, whenever he was flirting with Miss Martian or anyone else I felt extremely uncomfortable. I loved every other part of his character but I found his interest in women very creepy
I know what you mean and I agree but I enjoy "but I found his intrest in women creepy" out of context.
@@an8strengthkobold360 I meant the way he shows his interest in women. Not the fact that he is interested in them although I know how that sounded
I appreciate that they made It more graphic compared to when the show was on a children's network.
I’ll always have my gripes with certain parts of Young Justice, but overall, it was a genuinely great show. Honestly, Young Justice (especially season 1) gave me my favorite interpretations of some of these characters.
I personally thought they did robin and aqualad great
It’s good, but I noticed the show has an exposition problem, with how characters convey info through dialogue sometimes. Mainly in season 2. It can be very wordy or come off written.
Best reaction to the Bane of this show came from my friend who was watching it. He was a big Bane fan but couldn't recognize him right away. He said this statement when he saw him. "Why is Ricochet from Mucha Lucha all grown up and evil?"
Nice bro I love this show just started season 3 today!!!
I think YJ is about as good as I remember it, it was a 6.5/10 show and I still think it hits that mark, just in different ways. The constant time skips and a lot of plot events can be easily avoided. There a good amount of events that just...shouldn't have had happened, like the ENTIRE JUSTICE LEAGUE allowing Dr. Fate to kidnap Zatana's father and doing NOTHING about it. That plotline always, and still does, disgust me. The animation and VA work does win a lot of points though. The biggest issue with YJ is its too...loose? I guess?
The show is a lot like Naruto, it jumps from important plot even to the next without care for covering basic information. Characters like Rocket GET MARRIED AND HAVE KIDS yet we don't know with who and it just sort of is meant in passing. I guess some people see it as a plus but my issue with the show is how little it covered the cast's lives. it's one of the shows that kid me was confused as fuck about because I know OF Oracle but seeing her just randomly appear and not even getting an intro always made me think I skipped an episode. The show's ability to transition was horrible. It just assumes you'll be fine with characters going through life-changing events and never even draws attention to it.
Thank you. I was not having a good day until now. I have been bingeing your content for a week straight.
I’m SO GLAD this show has the couples break up for legit and understandable reasons and it’s not just for the sake of drama.
Season three was absolutely fantastic! The adult themes and jokes that were centered on their actual audience (teenagers) are amazing! I didn't see the third season until almost three years after it had come out, and I rewatched all of it in a row, and they did not disappoint, and they will never disappoint!
Is it as good as I remember?
No............ It's even better! Easily one of my favorite shows of all time!
Soo glad you're doing this show! And you're doing it excellently! Thank you for balancing constructive criticism and praise. Good analysis!
The 5 year gap from season 1 to 2 is what bothered me most about the show. Sad to see we will never see Zatanna and Robin
There is a game in between seasons 1 and 2. I haven’t played it but it explains a lot of the stuff that happens in that 5 year time frame.
I hate time skips most of the time. I just see it as a lazy way to do character development without actually showing said development
Bless. You're doing this series now
I hadn't seen the show until some time last year, but as someone with even a basic knowledge of the comics, what annoyed me was that it wasn't a Young Justice series at all; it's a Teen Titans series. In fact, just going off the source material, it's ironically more faithful to the Teen Titans than the 2003 TT cartoon. Both are still great shows, but I just found it an odd decision to call this show Young Justice at all.
There is literally no difference between Young Justice and Teen Titans except for the roster.
@@enotsnavdier6867 maybe to someone who hasn't read them
Blame the execs that forced the showrunners to use the title. This show was never meant to be an adaptation of the comics.
@@enotsnavdier6867 Young Justice is comedic.
I saw Young Justice as a successor to Teen Titans 2003.
I don’t need to comment on the video because you know I enjoyed it. However I did want to say that your Bane joke was freaking great and made me laugh more than it should. I always love when you throw in a random gag. Keep up the great work man!
Good video. Several compelling points are made, but I did want to offer an alternative perspective on the more subjective aspects. If it turns out I'm fringe, then I'm fringe. Here goes:
The biggest area of disagreement is the claim that the many, many glorious cameos and guest appearances were a bad thing. While, in certain stories, I would have preferred more character development, in others it would have been quite the waste. The extensive extended cast adds a little something extra for a wide variety of pre-existing fans, and even some spice for newer fans or casual viewers. If the choice is between filling them with generic characters, awkward name/motivation drops, etc. I definitely favor this approach. Yes, it would have been lovely for a more rushed episode to be a two-parter... *but what are you cutting to create room in the broadcast schedule or budget? ;)*
Now, where it is purely subjective; I found the Flash's doomed-to-fail flirtations _funny._ Could he have been clued in a little sooner? Yes. Could he have remained oblivious for a few more episodes? *If* the first season had been longer so that the *obvious* moment where the plot needed him to catch on could have been delayed, then it is another "Yes." Those just don't find it funny, don't find it funny and I get that... but I don't think it *was* that serious. Wally's the flirtatious type with a one-track mind, at least in this area. *No one* in the group was treated as feeling seriously bothered by Wally's failed flirtations, most important being Ms. Martian or Conner. So no one thought it was worth breaking it to him until Artemis, and even at this point she may have had an ulterior motive (haven't watched this series for a few years, though I watched it through at least twice, maybe three or four times). Likewise, I have a feeling that this kind of disappointment is not unfamiliar to Wally, so an episode where he dwelled on it probably would have made it more confusing, not less.
Agreed completely. And Justice League Unlimited does this as well and it never gets this kind of flak.
And it's not like any of the major villains aren't named. The series pushes the idea that you should do your own research. The series was made for DC fans.
In addition I agree with you on kid flash. I personally didnt find it funny but I definitely thought that was him showing off his personality and it stuck.
Not every character is a golden egg. But that shouldnt be criticism to the show itself.
@@kevinvu5432 An idea that I think could be worth a future video ( *winkwink* ), even if only to tell me how I'm wrong, is that I legitimately think that the Young Justice-style approach would have been a better way to handle the DCEU.
Instead of trying to start from the beginning with Superman while having Batman be near the end of his career, you let the big names (even some general audiences probably wouldn't know) all have established histories... and take advantage of Robin being iconic enough to still be a comforting presence. Even several of the new (to general audiences) faces would have some familiarity because these are the *sidekicks* of heroes that _are_ at least somewhat known to general audiences. The Young Justice formula gives an in-story reason for explaining things general audiences would need to be explained about this hypothetical DCEU. Even the Young Justice pilot might be a plausible starting point for the film's script.
Now, what if we restrict ourselves to the films that the DCEU actually used? Let's look at the Suicide Squad. Instead of that paint-by-numbers plot, let us give Amanda Waller more credit. The group isn't there to fight Superman. Instead, it has become clear that *other* nations are weaponizing superhumans and/or taking advantage of what they can do to pursue real-world methods of leverage (like a small nation suddenly becoming a nuclear power). Bialya is presented as a relatively *new* country; at first, no one believed the rumors that "Queen Bee" was manipulating folks with more than just mundane methods. Then the last black ops squad slammed into her metahuman enforcers (C-listers, to save the big names for bigger things). The Suicide Squad is being mobilized because they provide plausible deniability (supervillains being supervillains) but either they take out the enemies metahumans... or get taken out, saving the taxpayer from having to worry about them in the future. Maybe even establish this isn't the group's first rodeo; Captain Boomerang's milking of the Suicide Squad program has always struck me as a great plot-point.
Yes, imho Wally was portrayed at being in denial about Miss Martian's feelings for him. I think that, if she had made it clear that she wasn't interested in him, he would have stopped his flirtations sooner. For proof of that, when he was made aware of Superboy and Miss Martian's relationship, he was initially disapointed, like anyone that had a big crush on someone would have been in this situation, but he still accepted it and didn't act like an asshole, didn't blame Miss Martian or Superboy. And I don't recall Wally ever (or maybe once) taking his flirting too far. I found him to be corny but never vulgar about it. I also don't remember his flirtations being all that frequent, at least not as much as what this vid states.
3 quarters into the video, just wanted to say: I'll preface this by saying that Kid Flash (Wally West) is one of my favorite characters of all time. He's cute, he's funny and he's heroic... what more could you ask for? That's an understatement, there's a lot more to him than just that, but you get the point.
The 2nd option you listed is true. This is meant to be a negative trait of his, coupled with his arrogance, impulsiveness and happy-go-lucky attitude. I read comics often, and his arc to become a better person is very important and common with KF, just like it is here. The main conclusion to his arc, though not his romance, happens in E20 of Season 1: Coldhearted.
Wally, while all the other heroes are on a big, explosive battle, has to deliver a heart to a dying child. He gets pissed and annoyed at this because *he* is not in the center of the battle, getting all the recognition and praise. He doesn't see being a hero as a rewarding thing in it's own right, but instead the praise and popularity he gets from it. This popularity constantly goes to his head and results in him thinking he's more important than he is and constantly hitting on people like they're lucky to have him hitting on them.
This is a big flaw in his character, and constantly drives home consequences and disapproval from his team and others around him. Anyways, by the end of the episode; he saves the girl after a lot of hardship (villains trying to stop him from doing it). By the end of the episode, you see that he's just happy to save the girl and doesn't care about the praise, recognition or fame. Just helping people and being a good person.
While it does sound like a very one-dimensional and unrealistic transformation from how I'm describing it, it's just so good it can not be put to words. If you haven't watched Young Justice in a while or have never seen it before; I suggest you watch it and closely view his arc.
This starts off as a joke, but soon becomes a large showcase of his giant flaw; and affects his arc, his personality and his relationships.
If you still don't believe me, watch Season 1 and 2 back-to-back. Wally goes from being an immature, selfish, arrogant and impulsive jerk to being a happy, mature, sensible, supportive and committal guy. The arc is so smooth that it's hard to see without watching it all in a row.
Anyways, goodnight. Have a good day or whatever time it is for you now.
YJ season 1 was so good that I was hurt when I started watching S2 (it sucked)
This show inspired me to write my own superhero series and gave me a lot of the characteristics I have today, between this and Teen Titans they probably have the biggest influence on my life and way I view the world. I’m so happy to see you reviewing this series as well! Thanks for making amazing content!
One word to describe this show would be Perfection.
The comics to tie in for this season make it so much better. I’m not sure if they’re canon but they’re fun reads! That made it seem like I don’t like YJ season 1, but it’s one of my favorite superhero shows of all time!
ok i love every thing you pointed out but can i point out at 14:19 kid flashes eyes
I've never watched Young Justice, but I really like your videos; so here we are. :^)
I remember I used to be so sad that we didn't get another season but now I wish it had stayed canceled
Me too. I remember wanting another season of Spectacular Spider Man but if it was brought back today they'd shove in Miles, Spider Gwen, Spider Verse, Superior Spider Man, Tony Stark, and teasing Thanos at the end of each season
After watching your Teen Titans review straight into this it honestly amuses me just how perfectly YJ starts exactly how you wanted TT to start. A lot of the issues you had with TT and how we didn't meet the heroes solo or see how they meet are dealt with so much better in YJ. Other things are handled differently but that part definitely gave me a chuckle
I loved the first season, but couldn’t get into the second
How to write multiple characters at once 101: Write a world and not individual characters.
This is a super hero show that focus the perspective on the young heroes and not on the perspective of the villains, there is no reason to fully develop villains since they are not important individually but what they are doing and the overarching plan that is going to affect the world and be the final objective for the characters the story is following.
Young Justice > Teen Titans imo
x-men over both
Felix Charles I like both series because I enjoy Young Justice and the original 2003 Teen Titans.
@@serenityq26 what lmao
@@serenityq26 wrong universe
Young Justice had better Writing, but Teen Titans had more character and personality
ABSOLUTELY. 24 Years old now, and still get insanely excited for every episode.
Gives me the same excitement that Justice League/Unlimited gave me when I was 13.
I don’t like the 3rd season it’s kinda a down grade from the 2 other seasons
Well done with the video. You sound much more confident in yourself. There were only 3 “droop offs” that I pointed out before. I only noticed them because I wanted to see how you would do. I doubt anyone else caught it. Sounding confident in yourself and with a consistent rhythm will keep more people’s attention in your videos. Keep getting better. :)
okey i am gonna jump and say right away my biggest problem here
THE TIME SKIP
you just CANT
have such a big time skip with so much SHIT GOING ON INSIDE and expect us to just stay like "oh okayt mentioning it is just fine"
robin becoming nightwing
the death of beast boys mom
wally and artemis becoming a couple (and leaving young justice)
blue beetle joining
THE BETRAYAL OF AQUA LAD
superboy issues with him realizing that his body doesnt age properly and ending his relation with meg
even though we later get explanations......
still feels........MEH
i just dont feel that much from it
at least in one piece we get a small peak at each crewmember before the time skip
and it can be excused since its mostly them training
Agreed. Also I think there are way to many characters to follow in season 2.
@@SzatanistaDzezowy too many characters
not so much episodes
Agreed. That could have been the plot of season 2. Hype, fights, drama, betrayal, kids and new faces.
Using Tie in comics to fill in a story dosent work like it would've been better if they had a trailer for the tie in books after season 1 or 2 ended
@Aporia Yakuza okey tie ins are not always a good idea
specially when YOU REALIZE THERE ARE TIE INS TOO LATE
seriously tie ins are an annoyance
As always, wonderful video Lowart!
I’m not going to lie, I wasn’t too happy with how they replace one angry character with another angry character. With Connor’s anger making sense with character development, it did catch me off guard and I let it hinder me from watching the show.
I just wanna say that you have one of the best channels on TH-cam. Very good high quality content. Keep doing a good job and thank you for all your videos
This show was never to my taste as it was on. I enjoyed a lot of things about it, but the attempts at levity never landing for me meant it get very tonally dry and hard to invest in.
My girlfriend used to hate comic books, super heroes villains etc..
And I showed her this show which changes just a bit from the comics so I trusted it to teach her a thing or two.. we saw both seasons in 4 days, she was so surprised bout how much she enjoyed it, loved the comedy drama romance, I would say Young Justice.. not only holds up, it is one of the greatest hero shows there has ever been
Most people giving short answers are saying yes. I say no, it's not as good as wee remember.
It's better.
Something I'm hoping we get someday is a 3rd generation of heroes. Lots of the DC heroes had their start more than 1/2 a century ago but are still depicted as young contemporary heroes with young training sidekicks. But eventually we should be seeing these young heroes stepping up the way we saw Nightwing and eventually Red Hood grow up as Batman got new younger teammates. I want to see the generation that Dick Grayson, Speedy, Raven, Aqualad, etc take under their wings to train into a new generation. The world will always need heroes as there will always be natural threats and villains, and we shouldn't just reuse the same heroes every few decades. Let the heroes evolve. Eventually even Terry McGinnis will have to train someone new to be the Bat and we'll have a group of futuristic heroes working together to protect that world when the old heroes are gone or just not able to do it like they used to. Let time move forward and put the safety of the world in the hands of those who were trained to be better than the old one was.
Hopefully young justice outsiders will convince dc to give another season of Batman beyond
laz kar nah I loved Batman beyond
DC always tried McGinnis poorly. They don't really know what do with Batman Beyond title.
btw lowart i love you for making these series because more people need to know the flaws of these series and strive for better writing
"Today is the today"😔
You post such amazing content! I look forward to your Avatar series continuing and thoroughly enjoyed your Teen Titans series. You have such wonderful insight into the shows and their themes and I really appreciate your perspective.
First season is 😁 the second season is 🙂 and the third season is just 😐
As someone who watched it for the first time as an adult, the show is spectacular.
The new season, young justice outsiders is very lacklustre. The original show is still amazing. It's a timeless gem. The new season is not the same show. It's an inferior shadow if itself. RIP again, young justice
Good to see you back on covering a DC cartoon. This review was good. Your production value is always awesome and you eloquently describe your take on things. I'm wondering if you saw season 2 or if you plan on watching season 3. Some things you mentioned as plot holes were covered beautifully by Greg Weisman's writing. You are right that this show could use a bit more characterization of villains but the point is really to show young heroes fighting off the "leftovers" of the Justice League's villains while proving themselves in the process. Young Justice functions mostly to thwart upcoming plots by villains, not take them head on like the Justice League. Thus, the show becomes more of a covert ops serial than a superhero show. Relationships develop more spontaneously as they would in a military unit rather than a group of kids hanging out like in Teen Titans. In an attempt to pull things back to the fact that Young Justice still is a group of teens though, Kid Flash does interact with Ms. Martian like many teen guys do: awkwardly persistent until someone else steps in. This is realistic and mimics how I've seen my more awkward friends interact with women our age. Wally West is also a flirt and is comic relief in most media he appears in. You'll see later how he can be way more responsible than he lets on at first. I would like to suggest two sites to you so your analyses can be even better informed.
I'd point you to dckids.com and dccomics.com. dckids.com a bunch of comics related to the Teen Titans and Young Justice shows (as well as the actual normal comic adaptations of these characters). The comics based off of the shows were circulated with titles like Action Pack and Cartoon Network Block Party under Warner Bros. They often clean up the gaps in character development and timing that seems to be a sticking point for you. These are children's shows so the timing will continually be an issue for you as a person unless you fill it in with these resources. You also don't seem entirely familiar with how the original comics really go (that's fine, there are so many to look through), so dccomics.com a good resource as the site has character summaries and histories for you. I suggest these because you are more focused on characters and you'll never see the type of development you would like in this one medium, kid's TV. It's simply not designed for that. Writers have more liberty and add sophistication that a person of our standards would enjoy mostly in the comics based on the show. Someone like myself is more focused on action and plot (because I have seen dozens of renditions of the same characters). Your analyses are fresh because you're almost like an outsider giving an objective look on the DC shows but it seems like some common themes are lost to you. Hope you found that constructive.
I always look forward to your super hero show reviews as they are so well done. I really think the culmination of your work would be in an analysis of the DCAU (Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: The animated series, justice league, static shock etc) but I could understand if you didn't grow up watching these shows and they didn't pique your interest. Keep the videos coming!
Pretty much agree with everything you've said here. Kid Flash is easily the weakest character in the core six that were the focus of most of season 1, mostly because he doesn't get a lot of opportunity to do anything besides flirt badly and make a dumb joke, and the episodes that do focus on him ("Denial" and "Coldhearted") are rather isolated from the main storyline as a whole. "Denial" is a bit more important, what with the introduction of Klarion and Dr Fate, but "Coldhearted", while still an episode I enjoy, doesn't really do anything other than give Kid Flash a little bit of character development that doesn't necessarily play into his actions later in the series in a truly meaningful way. And when the episode focuses on the team as a whole, he tends to contribute less than everyone else as far as plot progression goes. Robin is in a bit of a similar boat in season 1 as well, and it makes sense considering that they (and Aqualad) are the more experienced members of the team while Superboy, Miss Martian, and Artemis (who get the lion's share of involvement in the story) are new to heroics and thus have more room for growth (not to mention Superboy and Artemis's ties to the Light). Honestly, the first time I watched Young Justice, I was convinced that Kid Flash was the mole simply because I couldn't think of any other reason to justify him being there. I didn't dislike him by any means (the only member of the team I don't care for is Lagoon Boy, and even then not that much), but he just felt extraneous.
The episode with kid flash didn't really make sense cold hearted built him to care less about personal benefits and help a person in danger instead but later he would quit
When you think about it... the Light created their own enemies.
Programming Red Arrow the way they did brought about the catalyst that led to the team's prototype of a creation with Robin, Kid Flash, and Aqualad... which then led to the amassing of comrades that would then inhibit the progress of the Light's plans for the most part.