0:00 The Arcade 🕹 13:03 Cheating crowd work comedians 🧢 22:18 Activities at work 🍟 / *Dion's improvised question:* What's more humiliating? 👖 33:47 Kendrick vs. drake beef 🥊 58:29 Whose had a lengthy run more than drake? 🏆 (Artists that have fallen off) 1:29:46 Outro
Kendrick was definitely writing in real time. He responded to the slave line from Family Matters in Not Like Us an hour later. He also said "Family Matters and it was God's Plan to show you the liar". Every producer and rapper that has been in the studio with him said he can write a verse in a few minutes.
Kendrick is the talent and artistry of hip hop and rapping, Drake recites poetry written by others or pop rap, he wears the culture from everyone he “works”, like an actor plays characters.
Tony pander. He know its been confirmed but he just gotta play the middle . Drake has wrting credits on his music nd we SEEN AND HEARD THE REFERENCE TRACKS FROM QUINTON ..nigga need to stop ot
‼️‼️ Regarding K v D, it’s not that no one cares about whether Kendrick beats his girl. There is literally no proof of that, while there are several verifiable instances of Drake having inappropriate behavior toward young women. Also, Kendrick has the history of his reputation, which has never been ill toward women, while the reputation that’s being put on Drake (being a womanizer) is something he constantly talks about and celebrates in his music. Y’all have to stop insulting people for being biased. Bias is a good thing, especially when choosing who to support with your time, money, etc. We’re not dumb or blind. Lol
But if all the supposed "victims" have come out and said nothing inappropriate or sexual happened, why are people not keeping it 100 on both ends, that's really the problem, if it was the other way around and Whitney came out and said it didn't happen, people would respect that, all Drake's "victims" have come out and said nothing happened and no one cares😂
@devstuff2576 EXACTLY. And it would be one thing if it was just one person. He has several instances of weird behavior over an extended period of time. People have eyes. Most children that are groomed do not realize they were groomed until well into their adult years. They just thought they were mature for their age and this older guy was paying attention to them because they were cool and special. It isn't until those younger girls hit the age that the groomer was at that they realize it was INSANE for a 35 year old to be talking to me. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a list of young women RIGHT NOW pressing on Drake and the label for money for their silence regarding weird stuff he has done in the past. Even if it isn't molestation. There are people that are willing to pay money to know more info and the label will need to pay off those people.
@@kcxsmooth I don't wanna be that guy but a person who finds no problem with the things you did to them could still be a victim and if they fancy their relationships with Drake why would they not try and clean it up? The bad part is that all the "clean up" happening in one day simultaneously just makes it look worse.
Then you clearly didn't listen to the song or understand the lyrics. He said his team worked overtime to make it go away the protect the image of himself that is supposedly fake according to Drake. 🤦🏾♂️
@@Blackrob1313 that's where you're wrong lmao, those didn't all come out at the same time, the only person that came out and addressed it again was the girl at the concert, the statements that Millie,billie, and Bella made were all made years ago when people tried to reach when it first happened and they cleared it up, so, u tried it.
@@camicoz still attempted to unpack and address his many flaws in a genuine way as opposed to ignoring, deferring and overall compacting his many negative traits like Drake clearly has.
I don't think Drake using the AI was brilliant. I think it was Drake putting words into Tupac's and snoops mouth. Imagine someone beefing with somebody, but then somebody using your family members AI generated voice to diss whoever they're beefing with.
It was brilliant to me. He used AI to use Pac and Snoops voice over his own lyrics and had them telling Kendrick to get out there and fight back and was questioning if he was scared or if he really wanted to battle Drake. Telling Kendrick he was the west coast savior dont let us down. And if you listen to the disappointment in both AI Pac & Snoops lyrics as they were trying to get him to fight back all along the same time Drake was on social media asking Kendrick to drop music lets go! For about 2 weeks. It was more of a "I thought your boy wanted to battle, where is he?" from Drake! It was brilliant because EVERYBODY was like Kendrick is taking too long to respond and some podcasts was saying he lost already because he was taking too long to respond! And ALL that goes with the battle between them! 👌🏾
@@Caligula202 I disagree. I think it would have been a lot better if he would have said all that himself, instead of using someone's voice through AI who I think probably wouldn't fuk with Drake I think fake, I mean Drake it's just a fanboy and the only way he'd ever get parked on a verse is to use ai. He couldn't even get Snoop on the song to say whatever, so he had to again put words in pot and snoop's mouth. I don't mind that Kendrick took his time to construct what ultimately took down drake. That's like if this were a boxing match and Drake might have gotten a round or two in over kendrick, but Kendrick came back and won the last few boxing matches because he wanted to make sure that he understood Drake's angle as far as understanding who he is as a fighter. Muhammad Ali use the rope-a-dope technique to wear out his opponents.
I suspected Kendrick didn't give the abuse claims any attention because as Aamir mentioned in Euphoria, Kendrick predicted most of Drake's moves on the Teddy Pendergrass section, especially the "claims" regarding his family life. If it were true (it's possible🤷🏿♀️), people would have found it by now or Drake would have provided the evidence. A lot of the allegations against Drake have some steam, not a full blown PDFile but inappropriate behavior with young women, yes. Culture vulture, mmmmmyeah. Being a dweeb, yes. I just appreciate the music opening the lane of getting DJ Vlad tf up outta here.
@jonathankimbrough3406 Unfortunately darling, it's not fair. Nothing is fair in the court of public opinion 🤷🏿♀️ I never said I agreed, it's just my suspicion as to why Kendrick didn't give it any steam.
I went into this whole beef with a completely neutral stance ...at this point it makes no sense to say " if it were true for kendrick ppl would have found it"...Not if Whitney didn't tell ppl. And just the same if drake was a full fledged pdfile it would be more than sus behavior with teens that would have been found by now. So...I genuinely can't fathom how ppl are applauding the man repeatedly saying drake is a FULL FLEDGED PDFILE. WHO DESERVES TO LEAVE THIS EARTH...post photos of his house and then act like he did nothing wrong...But maybe it's because I've been working in court services and corrections for the past several yrs and it takes more than ANY of the current suspicion to certify someone a pdfile.
@@kamiish003it took R. Kelly 30 years to be arrested. Dave Chappelle even made a skit after the peeing video came out. Drakes popularity could have gained him a pass, even though his behavior is CLEARLY questionable.
He didn't explicitly state “i did not...” but Kendrick did say Drake is liar, that “he's making stuff up about family based on Mr Morales” AND said Drake was trying to shift the narrative. There's a reason lawyers advise against speaking out regardless of innocence. You can prove actions but not necessarily prove innocence. Him being explicitly doesn't clear anything up officially and makes people side eye that you dignified a response when Drake is the only one saying it.
How anyone could say Drake's "I'm actually a fan of your disses, if what you said wasn't all untrue and stuff" is a good comeback is beyond all logic. Drake's response to 'Meet The Grahams' wasn't a diss record, it was a self-own. He was on his heels trying desperately to react...if he were a cornerback and Kendrick were a WR, that's called getting cooked. Love Tony, but it was disappointing to hear him talk more about Kendrick's domestic dispute accusation than Drake's DOCUMENTED history of texting and flirting with teenage girls. It's the "what about Hunter's laptop" of this debate.
both things can be talked about though. Everyone either is talking about drake, or already knows drake is a PEDo. But not many people are bringing Kendrick's situation. This beef is filled with hypocrisy. Kendrick going at Drake for being a PEDO is fair, but don't act like you didn't work with Kodak. A man who raped a 16 year and plead guilty to it. Same with Drake and the Domestic violence shit, considering he's worked with and actively shouted out Chris brown.
@@akaInfamous I completely agree with everything you just said! If Drake's response had been calling out Kendrick for waiting on a diss to come out of the woodworks with these accusations, and defending them with more than "I'd be arrested if it were true because I'm famous, and plus you're short and have less money and try to be conscious in your music" -- and had the backbone to point out what you just did -- I'd be more open to what he has to say. But his response was so desperate and insecure it really just felt like he was doing Kendrick's work for him. And maybe I'm also equating two different situations here, but I feel like Tony holds a similar opinion when it comes to Tupac and B.I.G. As though being more agreeable and passive means being more in the right. Kendrick (and Tupac) clearly said it with their chest, with conviction, and I think that's the part that resonates more with people looking for "the truth". We aren't delusional about the fact that most people are flawed, but as can be seen with Diddy (and potentially Drake) there's a MAJOR difference between being flawed and being a manipulative, narcissistic predator who's only out for their own self interests.
Nope…yall reaching with your takes on Drake’s response. If that’s how you let your “homies” talk to your girl then you’re soft.😂Also, he was SUPPOSED to address what Kendrick said. If he didn’t, yall would be saying that he looked guilty. And pretending like Kendrick writing a whole song based on a fairytale doesn’t make him look goofy is some meat riding mess. I’m not a fan of either but the meat riding for Kendrick during all of this was annoying. 🙄
@@jwdathefax377 "goofy", "meat riding", "your girl"... Please stop projecting your insecurities on TH-cam using vernacular that even AI is above! No level of "I'm not even a Drake fan" is going to shield you from the accusation, just like Drake's "I'm not even messing with teenagers like that" is going to shield him. The original comment I was responding to was VALID! Your comment is exactly the type of weirdo reflection that helps validate the fact that Kendrick is touching a nerve. Flawed human being or not, most people with a moral compass and basic critical thinking skills are perfectly content letting him unravel this industry mess that so many disingenuous individuals are desperately trying to gloss/glaze over.
Yall couldn't have been listening. Dot was responding the whole battle. The biggest line from the battle A-MMIINNORRR is a rebutal to the Dave Free line. He literally responded to Drake's slave line. Wtf yall talking about?
Apparently what you need to do to satisfactorily address allegations is say stuff like "I'm way too famous to do that shit you just suggested" 😐 Because as everyone knows, "nuh-uh!" provides complete and total exoneration. Having an entire previous album owning up to your faults and flaws as a man and husband (which did NOT include DV, mind you), though, doesnt count. I feel like Kendrick gave folks too much credit with "hey Drake, they're not slow".
The Kendrick allegations about his wife came out of nowhere. Drake's pattern of questionable behavior is well documented. Also, Drake brought up Whitney first. Each side fans are bias. It's the common fans Kendrick won over in the court of public opinion.
The Diddy stuff came out of nowhere too. Just because people don't know about it doesn't mean it isn't true. Drake's business stays out there. Kendrick is a private person. So that line of thinking makes no sense.
@@camicozlol are you crazy?? Diddy’s behavior being questionable has been around since I was a kid! I remember the conversations around how badly Diddy treated people personally and the business. A lot of famous black celebrities talked about it. It was like the RKelly situation. Everybody knew, but minded their own business.
@@greg1685I'm pretty sure the black and blue line is about Kendrick's mom. "Mother's brother said he got revenge for my mother’s face Black and blue, the image of my queen that I can't erase" The line and verse before he mentions black and blue are all mostly about his mom and childhood.
@@CJ-ct2mu you're right. I'm not used to people calling their mom "my queen" and since he goes into detail about how Whitney left him right after threw me off.
I get the feeling a lot of the "but the DV allegations" folks haven't exactly been paying attention. Or maybe just don't fw Kendrick? Lots of things seem to have gone over their heads.
I think people aren’t judging this battle by fair standards. Because they’re both the top artists in their industry, the winner has to be whoever was able to get their objective across more effectively. We already know they’re able to make good music. Kendrick’s objective was clear, to call Drake out for being liar, creep, exploiter and draw a hard line in the sand for anyone who wants to work or associate with him. Drake’s objective was a bit all over the place. His end goal with Kendrick was not clear and that’s why his efforts fall a bit flatter. They were having two separate battles imo. Grateful to have gotten good music from both but in terms of who won, I think Kendrick set out his objective and executed it near flawlessly. Drake didn’t understand that his job in this battle wasn’t to win, but to defend the credibility of his position on top and he failed. People (including his own fans) look at him differently now and the conversations they now have to have about him have changed.
Kendrick didn't acknowledge it because it isn't true. The case drake took an spun is when that white couple got beat up. Which was literally proven false. That's why NOBODY can find any actual evidence. Doesn't help Kendrick predicted what drake would do before he did. He would take mr morale tracks an twist them. Drake lied about top dawg robbing his father, which if you listened to the song he didn't rob him. Same with mother I sober, he said kendrick was molested, he was not, his mother was. He lied about the "feeding him info" narrative because dj ak admitted on stream he gave the angle to drake after meet the grahms which he got from Twitter. Drake even took the track of kendrick saying him an Whitney broke up months ago because of his cheating like she left because of dv. Drake lied about his son, could be lying about this other child aswell. He lied about his ghostwriters aswell, Quentin miller, beam, yatchy an now daylyt an mickey facts are all exposed writer's for drake. Not to mention the videos, texts, articles an interviews of evidence of drake lying about being in contact with mad minors. Once drake tells the truth, people will be more inclined to believe him. It also don't help drake tried to call out kendrick of domestic violence when he literally shouted out chris brown in the same damn diss 😂
He didn't have to address multiple artists. He did that as a strategy so his fans can say he went against multiple people. Kendrick vs Drake is what everyone was waiting on.
R&B artist are able to stay relevant because the music is timeless!! Especially when they have a genuine fanbase, their always able to tour & do features.
What makes is hard for fans to believe Kdot beating his lady is b/c Drake made that claim with his back on the wall with no type proof or speculative evidence. With Kdot calling Drake is p*do, it's photographed history and interviews with Drake hanging out with teens and being a lil too close with them.
Hey gang. Huge fan of the pod. I saw Craig and his lady out recently. What a beautiful couple. I was to scared to say hello. I turned into such a fan. Keep up the laughs guys
1:27:28 I think Craig and Dion may be right. It's rumored that he was supposed to do another album with Future, like Future did with Metro, but went with 21.
And as women, we have super high radar for creepy behavior. Drake has creeped me out since like 2012. Kendrick has never creeped me out. Just speaking musically, since we don’t know either personally.
Just askin...., but how drake creep you musically? cause none of us been creeped musically by him but definitely his actions & demeanor in certain instances 😅 like of course we don't kw them but visual behavior patterns we see & kw forsure 😂😂
It's not that no one cares if Kendrick abused his wife. The issue is that Drake has so little credibility that the things he says don't land. Also I think Kendrick is responding to the allegations by showing all of the verifiable ways that Drake lies. He has said in every track that Drake is a liar and a manipulator. He might go deeper into his next album but between Drake being a liar and Kendrick's brother-in-law coming out and saying he would never stand beside someone who had put hands on his sister but he stands by and supports Kendrick, that allows dot to just maintain beast mode.
Great episode. I miss the videos Craig used to post from the pod. Why don’t you make them anymore? They were so funny. Love laughing with you guys. Hope you are all enjoying your summer
When I went back to listen, it wasn’t that Drake was defensive on “The Heart Pt.6” that sounded wild, it’s what he was saying in some parts that had us like “wait, what?” 😂. Great battle though. He put up a great fight for sure.
Drakes flow is childish. I refuse to de-evolve all my years of hiphop listening to accept that shit. And im the same age as tony. This whole beef was one sided.
I'm tired of this narrative that Cole and Kendrick are comparable talents. Kendrick eclipsed Cole as early as Section 80. Cole's absolute best album can go head to head with Section 80 and still feasibly lose. A 4 year run beating your chest on features don't mean shit when you're clearly only doing it cause the Boogeyman isn't outside. Fans convinced by these obvious bluffs clearly haven't listened to all these artist's albums. Unfortunately our high expectations for Cole ended up being met by Kendrick. Most of us witnessed it IN FIRST PERSON, real time. This revisionist history has to stop. They literally traded beats and we only remember the resulting song from 1 of them. Anyone saying Drake was the easier target is coping. Drake was simply THE target. If Cole wasn't so lukewarm he could have easily been targeted and smoked as well, but he KNOWS himself. He knows what some call "his lane" isn't his and he will move for incoming traffic cause he's happy to be here, in the discussion
Nobody doesn't like Drake defending himself. it's how he did it. "im too famous" and "i wouldve been in jail by now" are terrible defenses😂 people who were caught said that exact same things. Famous ppl have been getting caught for some years now anyway. Plus mentioning Millie Bobby Brown and Epstein when kdot mention or implied them is an obvious tell.
We (females) BEEN using F.A.N. outside. Kendrick did not come up with that exclusively for Drake. I am hoping Dion didn't know that because he has never been called a FAN.
All of this started because Jcole gave Drake and Kendrick a compliment 🤣🤣🤣 Now I’m sitting here like so are the police getting involved? Cause these allegations are serious *in my Tony Baker voice*
0:00 The Arcade 🕹
13:03 Cheating crowd work comedians 🧢
22:18 Activities at work 🍟 / *Dion's improvised question:* What's more humiliating? 👖
33:47 Kendrick vs. drake beef 🥊
58:29 Whose had a lengthy run more than drake? 🏆 (Artists that have fallen off)
1:29:46 Outro
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Kendrick was definitely writing in real time. He responded to the slave line from Family Matters in Not Like Us an hour later. He also said "Family Matters and it was God's Plan to show you the liar".
Every producer and rapper that has been in the studio with him said he can write a verse in a few minutes.
Kendrick is the talent and artistry of hip hop and rapping, Drake recites poetry written by others or pop rap, he wears the culture from everyone he “works”, like an actor plays characters.
Exactly! A lot of what Kendrick said was responses to drake….but Meet the Grahams felt premeditated tho 😂😂😂
The ghost writers have been confirmed many times over
Tony pander. He know its been confirmed but he just gotta play the middle . Drake has wrting credits on his music nd we SEEN AND HEARD THE REFERENCE TRACKS FROM QUINTON ..nigga need to stop ot
It was a whole reference track lol. Drake steals whole songs. Ask Dram
Its on the credits 😂😂😂
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Dion got the aura of the home boy that you love to death, but refuse to hangout with unless the other homeboys are coming.
‼️‼️ Regarding K v D, it’s not that no one cares about whether Kendrick beats his girl. There is literally no proof of that, while there are several verifiable instances of Drake having inappropriate behavior toward young women. Also, Kendrick has the history of his reputation, which has never been ill toward women, while the reputation that’s being put on Drake (being a womanizer) is something he constantly talks about and celebrates in his music. Y’all have to stop insulting people for being biased. Bias is a good thing, especially when choosing who to support with your time, money, etc. We’re not dumb or blind. Lol
But if all the supposed "victims" have come out and said nothing inappropriate or sexual happened, why are people not keeping it 100 on both ends, that's really the problem, if it was the other way around and Whitney came out and said it didn't happen, people would respect that, all Drake's "victims" have come out and said nothing happened and no one cares😂
@devstuff2576 EXACTLY. And it would be one thing if it was just one person. He has several instances of weird behavior over an extended period of time. People have eyes. Most children that are groomed do not realize they were groomed until well into their adult years. They just thought they were mature for their age and this older guy was paying attention to them because they were cool and special. It isn't until those younger girls hit the age that the groomer was at that they realize it was INSANE for a 35 year old to be talking to me.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are a list of young women RIGHT NOW pressing on Drake and the label for money for their silence regarding weird stuff he has done in the past. Even if it isn't molestation. There are people that are willing to pay money to know more info and the label will need to pay off those people.
@@kcxsmooth I don't wanna be that guy but a person who finds no problem with the things you did to them could still be a victim and if they fancy their relationships with Drake why would they not try and clean it up? The bad part is that all the "clean up" happening in one day simultaneously just makes it look worse.
Then you clearly didn't listen to the song or understand the lyrics. He said his team worked overtime to make it go away the protect the image of himself that is supposedly fake according to Drake. 🤦🏾♂️
@@Blackrob1313 that's where you're wrong lmao, those didn't all come out at the same time, the only person that came out and addressed it again was the girl at the concert, the statements that Millie,billie, and Bella made were all made years ago when people tried to reach when it first happened and they cleared it up, so, u tried it.
I just started but I'm sure Dion about to piss me off 😂
Damn homie… lol
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Dion makes every conversation awkward…
He be lying
Lol damn! 😂😂
Kendrick addressed his marital issues and faults on his album when has Drake ever addressed any of his many public negative instances
He addressed what he wanted y'all to know. Probably not even the tip of the iceberg. Y'all stay blind.
@@camicoz still attempted to unpack and address his many flaws in a genuine way as opposed to ignoring, deferring and overall compacting his many negative traits like Drake clearly has.
“I was taking cash.😐” Tony was serious!😂😂
Tony’s seriousness during his joke delivery is too much sometimes😂😂😂😂
I don't think Drake using the AI was brilliant. I think it was Drake putting words into Tupac's and snoops mouth. Imagine someone beefing with somebody, but then somebody using your family members AI generated voice to diss whoever they're beefing with.
I thought it was trash too, and to me it bolsters Kendrick's argument that he's a culture vulture
Facts! It was culture vulture tendency. And looked desperate
I'm from Oakland and kinda a Drake fan. I had Drake up at that point and thought it was a horrible move.
It was brilliant to me. He used AI to use Pac and Snoops voice over his own lyrics and had them telling Kendrick to get out there and fight back and was questioning if he was scared or if he really wanted to battle Drake. Telling Kendrick he was the west coast savior dont let us down. And if you listen to the disappointment in both AI Pac & Snoops lyrics as they were trying to get him to fight back all along the same time Drake was on social media asking Kendrick to drop music lets go! For about 2 weeks. It was more of a "I thought your boy wanted to battle, where is he?" from Drake! It was brilliant because EVERYBODY was like Kendrick is taking too long to respond and some podcasts was saying he lost already because he was taking too long to respond! And ALL that goes with the battle between them! 👌🏾
@@Caligula202 I disagree. I think it would have been a lot better if he would have said all that himself, instead of using someone's voice through AI who I think probably wouldn't fuk with Drake I think fake, I mean Drake it's just a fanboy and the only way he'd ever get parked on a verse is to use ai. He couldn't even get Snoop on the song to say whatever, so he had to again put words in pot and snoop's mouth. I don't mind that Kendrick took his time to construct what ultimately took down drake. That's like if this were a boxing match and Drake might have gotten a round or two in over kendrick, but Kendrick came back and won the last few boxing matches because he wanted to make sure that he understood Drake's angle as far as understanding who he is as a fighter. Muhammad Ali use the rope-a-dope technique to wear out his opponents.
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Kendrick dropping back 2 back twice on Drake is crazy. Euphoria and 6.16 in LA, then Meet the Grahams and Not like Us.
I’m still heated about Dion’s take on the movie Life
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I suspected Kendrick didn't give the abuse claims any attention because as Aamir mentioned in Euphoria, Kendrick predicted most of Drake's moves on the Teddy Pendergrass section, especially the "claims" regarding his family life. If it were true (it's possible🤷🏿♀️), people would have found it by now or Drake would have provided the evidence. A lot of the allegations against Drake have some steam, not a full blown PDFile but inappropriate behavior with young women, yes. Culture vulture, mmmmmyeah. Being a dweeb, yes. I just appreciate the music opening the lane of getting DJ Vlad tf up outta here.
naw that’s bias everyone said if Drake ignored it it’s true but with kendrick it’s benefit of the doubt how is that fair
@jonathankimbrough3406
Unfortunately darling, it's not fair. Nothing is fair in the court of public opinion 🤷🏿♀️ I never said I agreed, it's just my suspicion as to why Kendrick didn't give it any steam.
They’ve both earned their reputations.
I went into this whole beef with a completely neutral stance ...at this point it makes no sense to say " if it were true for kendrick ppl would have found it"...Not if Whitney didn't tell ppl. And just the same if drake was a full fledged pdfile it would be more than sus behavior with teens that would have been found by now. So...I genuinely can't fathom how ppl are applauding the man repeatedly saying drake is a FULL FLEDGED PDFILE. WHO DESERVES TO LEAVE THIS EARTH...post photos of his house and then act like he did nothing wrong...But maybe it's because I've been working in court services and corrections for the past several yrs and it takes more than ANY of the current suspicion to certify someone a pdfile.
@@kamiish003it took R. Kelly 30 years to be arrested. Dave Chappelle even made a skit after the peeing video came out. Drakes popularity could have gained him a pass, even though his behavior is CLEARLY questionable.
He didn't explicitly state “i did not...” but Kendrick did say Drake is liar, that “he's making stuff up about family based on Mr Morales” AND said Drake was trying to shift the narrative.
There's a reason lawyers advise against speaking out regardless of innocence. You can prove actions but not necessarily prove innocence. Him being explicitly doesn't clear anything up officially and makes people side eye that you dignified a response when Drake is the only one saying it.
Dion with the KDOT and Drake conversation?, I can't wait to hear this.
How anyone could say Drake's "I'm actually a fan of your disses, if what you said wasn't all untrue and stuff" is a good comeback is beyond all logic.
Drake's response to 'Meet The Grahams' wasn't a diss record, it was a self-own. He was on his heels trying desperately to react...if he were a cornerback and Kendrick were a WR, that's called getting cooked.
Love Tony, but it was disappointing to hear him talk more about Kendrick's domestic dispute accusation than Drake's DOCUMENTED history of texting and flirting with teenage girls. It's the "what about Hunter's laptop" of this debate.
both things can be talked about though. Everyone either is talking about drake, or already knows drake is a PEDo. But not many people are bringing Kendrick's situation. This beef is filled with hypocrisy. Kendrick going at Drake for being a PEDO is fair, but don't act like you didn't work with Kodak. A man who raped a 16 year and plead guilty to it. Same with Drake and the Domestic violence shit, considering he's worked with and actively shouted out Chris brown.
@@akaInfamous I completely agree with everything you just said! If Drake's response had been calling out Kendrick for waiting on a diss to come out of the woodworks with these accusations, and defending them with more than "I'd be arrested if it were true because I'm famous, and plus you're short and have less money and try to be conscious in your music" -- and had the backbone to point out what you just did -- I'd be more open to what he has to say. But his response was so desperate and insecure it really just felt like he was doing Kendrick's work for him.
And maybe I'm also equating two different situations here, but I feel like Tony holds a similar opinion when it comes to Tupac and B.I.G. As though being more agreeable and passive means being more in the right. Kendrick (and Tupac) clearly said it with their chest, with conviction, and I think that's the part that resonates more with people looking for "the truth". We aren't delusional about the fact that most people are flawed, but as can be seen with Diddy (and potentially Drake) there's a MAJOR difference between being flawed and being a manipulative, narcissistic predator who's only out for their own self interests.
Nope…yall reaching with your takes on Drake’s response. If that’s how you let your “homies” talk to your girl then you’re soft.😂Also, he was SUPPOSED to address what Kendrick said. If he didn’t, yall would be saying that he looked guilty. And pretending like Kendrick writing a whole song based on a fairytale doesn’t make him look goofy is some meat riding mess. I’m not a fan of either but the meat riding for Kendrick during all of this was annoying. 🙄
Yeah Kendrick got Drake very easy to see
@@jwdathefax377 "goofy", "meat riding", "your girl"...
Please stop projecting your insecurities on TH-cam using vernacular that even AI is above! No level of "I'm not even a Drake fan" is going to shield you from the accusation, just like Drake's "I'm not even messing with teenagers like that" is going to shield him.
The original comment I was responding to was VALID! Your comment is exactly the type of weirdo reflection that helps validate the fact that Kendrick is touching a nerve. Flawed human being or not, most people with a moral compass and basic critical thinking skills are perfectly content letting him unravel this industry mess that so many disingenuous individuals are desperately trying to gloss/glaze over.
Kendrick song dissing Drake might go platinum
Yall couldn't have been listening. Dot was responding the whole battle. The biggest line from the battle A-MMIINNORRR is a rebutal to the Dave Free line. He literally responded to Drake's slave line. Wtf yall talking about?
Apparently what you need to do to satisfactorily address allegations is say stuff like "I'm way too famous to do that shit you just suggested" 😐 Because as everyone knows, "nuh-uh!" provides complete and total exoneration. Having an entire previous album owning up to your faults and flaws as a man and husband (which did NOT include DV, mind you), though, doesnt count.
I feel like Kendrick gave folks too much credit with "hey Drake, they're not slow".
Keon calling Kens last album trash is crazy
The Kendrick allegations about his wife came out of nowhere. Drake's pattern of questionable behavior is well documented. Also, Drake brought up Whitney first.
Each side fans are bias. It's the common fans Kendrick won over in the court of public opinion.
The Diddy stuff came out of nowhere too. Just because people don't know about it doesn't mean it isn't true. Drake's business stays out there. Kendrick is a private person. So that line of thinking makes no sense.
@@camicozlol are you crazy?? Diddy’s behavior being questionable has been around since I was a kid! I remember the conversations around how badly Diddy treated people personally and the business. A lot of famous black celebrities talked about it. It was like the RKelly situation. Everybody knew, but minded their own business.
Drake also used Tupac AI to repeat the liking minors allegations against himself so he also brought that theme into play. He's an idiot.
Not only did Kenrdkck respond to Drake's disses directly, he did it so quickly clearly there is a spy that gave him the tracks early.
Did he respond to the domestic abuse?
@@TonyBakercomedy he covered it in the past on the track Drake mentioned "Mother, I" Talks about leaving Whitney black and blue .
@@greg1685I'm pretty sure the black and blue line is about Kendrick's mom.
"Mother's brother said he got revenge for my mother’s face
Black and blue, the image of my queen that I can't erase"
The line and verse before he mentions black and blue are all mostly about his mom and childhood.
@@CJ-ct2mu you're right. I'm not used to people calling their mom "my queen" and since he goes into detail about how Whitney left him right after threw me off.
Kendrick did deny the abuse allegations though "fabricating stuff on the family front because you heard Mr. Morale"
Where? And when?
@@TonyBakercomedy the line I quoted is from the beginning of euphoria
@@fangal12 ohhhhh
@TonyBakerComedy have you had the time to listen to mother I sober of Mr Morale and the Big Steppers?.... u should check it out for perspective
I get the feeling a lot of the "but the DV allegations" folks haven't exactly been paying attention. Or maybe just don't fw Kendrick? Lots of things seem to have gone over their heads.
Craig put that lotion on when he came back from the bathroom-thank you for staying moisturized 🙌🏾
A payday loan aint no financial security 😂😂 "Earnin" is a payday loan and debt trap.
One thing I hate about Earnin, they'll change the amount you can access without letting you know.
WHOS IS THE COMEDIAN??/?!
So no one is gonna bring up Daylyt saying he wrote the diss track 'Back to Back'?
I'm sorry to ever think Keon talked too much bc dude behind the camera took that title x 10 😂
I was shocked they didn’t know Will Downing 😅
I think people aren’t judging this battle by fair standards. Because they’re both the top artists in their industry, the winner has to be whoever was able to get their objective across more effectively. We already know they’re able to make good music. Kendrick’s objective was clear, to call Drake out for being liar, creep, exploiter and draw a hard line in the sand for anyone who wants to work or associate with him. Drake’s objective was a bit all over the place. His end goal with Kendrick was not clear and that’s why his efforts fall a bit flatter. They were having two separate battles imo.
Grateful to have gotten good music from both but in terms of who won, I think Kendrick set out his objective and executed it near flawlessly. Drake didn’t understand that his job in this battle wasn’t to win, but to defend the credibility of his position on top and he failed. People (including his own fans) look at him differently now and the conversations they now have to have about him have changed.
Kendrick didn't acknowledge it because it isn't true.
The case drake took an spun is when that white couple got beat up. Which was literally proven false. That's why NOBODY can find any actual evidence. Doesn't help Kendrick predicted what drake would do before he did. He would take mr morale tracks an twist them.
Drake lied about top dawg robbing his father, which if you listened to the song he didn't rob him. Same with mother I sober, he said kendrick was molested, he was not, his mother was.
He lied about the "feeding him info" narrative because dj ak admitted on stream he gave the angle to drake after meet the grahms which he got from Twitter. Drake even took the track of kendrick saying him an Whitney broke up months ago because of his cheating like she left because of dv.
Drake lied about his son, could be lying about this other child aswell.
He lied about his ghostwriters aswell, Quentin miller, beam, yatchy an now daylyt an mickey facts are all exposed writer's for drake. Not to mention the videos, texts, articles an interviews of evidence of drake lying about being in contact with mad minors.
Once drake tells the truth, people will be more inclined to believe him. It also don't help drake tried to call out kendrick of domestic violence when he literally shouted out chris brown in the same damn diss 😂
The crowd work comedian gotta be schultz!
He didn't have to address multiple artists. He did that as a strategy so his fans can say he went against multiple people. Kendrick vs Drake is what everyone was waiting on.
yes he did bc everyone would have said he was ducking the other people
@@Kingsmart14🧢
@@Kingsmart14he could’ve very easily pull a Hov and 1/2 bar saying fuck you niggas. Nobody is waiting on a weekend diss or rocky bars.
Also he pissed off too many people. Can't control when they decide to hit back.
@@Kingsmart14no that’s cap!! No one wanted him to respond to anyone other than Kendrick after Push Ups!
They remastered the old ninja turtles games into a bundle the cowabunga collection .. would like to see y’all have a game night
R&B artist are able to stay relevant because the music is timeless!! Especially when they have a genuine fanbase, their always able to tour & do features.
Also it's a talent to be able to sing
I knew this episode was about to piss me off 😒
Keon talking crazy. You think Mr Morale was trash??,
What makes is hard for fans to believe Kdot beating his lady is b/c Drake made that claim with his back on the wall with no type proof or speculative evidence. With Kdot calling Drake is p*do, it's photographed history and interviews with Drake hanging out with teens and being a lil too close with them.
So chattsworth who he talking about?
Who
I think Doboy and Kev
Nate Jackson does hella crowd work. but idk
Aye Kendrick told him if you take it there I'm taking it further......thats something you dont wanna do
Hey gang. Huge fan of the pod. I saw Craig and his lady out recently. What a beautiful couple. I was to scared to say hello. I turned into such a fan. Keep up the laughs guys
Sneak dickin tho 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Mr. Morale is my second favorite album by Kendrick.
"The fact that nobody cares is troubling"
The Drake Vs. Kendrick beef is a real life soap opera
Where Chaz been at?! 😂
1:27:28 I think Craig and Dion may be right. It's rumored that he was supposed to do another album with Future, like Future did with Metro, but went with 21.
yea old boy is very Kdot bias
Who’s the comedian they talking about🤔
Who knows I think it’s King Bach 😂😂
Drake has acting under his belt
He could always go back to his main craft✅
Also Ariana Grande
And as women, we have super high radar for creepy behavior. Drake has creeped me out since like 2012. Kendrick has never creeped me out. Just speaking musically, since we don’t know either personally.
Just askin...., but how drake creep you musically? cause none of us been creeped musically by him but definitely his actions & demeanor in certain instances 😅 like of course we don't kw them but visual behavior patterns we see & kw forsure 😂😂
@@sweetbuttergeminine4756 His songs give big “where my hug at” energy. 😂 hate it!
I look forward to hearing everyone's perspective on K vs. D!
Me too, it kind of helps you understand a person lol
37:46 the reference tracks for Drake’s songs have been confirmed. Daylyt has even confirmed he wrote back 2 back for Drake.
Daylyt said he didn’t write it
It's not that no one cares if Kendrick abused his wife. The issue is that Drake has so little credibility that the things he says don't land. Also I think Kendrick is responding to the allegations by showing all of the verifiable ways that Drake lies. He has said in every track that Drake is a liar and a manipulator. He might go deeper into his next album but between Drake being a liar and Kendrick's brother-in-law coming out and saying he would never stand beside someone who had put hands on his sister but he stands by and supports Kendrick, that allows dot to just maintain beast mode.
Exactly. There’s videos all over the internet with Drake being super weird.
@1:28:38 I guess they talking about Kev/Doboy.
Naw, AI isnt the issue. Resurecting a past Legend like Tupac and have him rapping "Talk about him liking young girls..."
Hella disrespectful
Diss is short for…
@@MartyMcFly__25it was disrespectful to Pac
Didn’t think they’d bring up the beef with DoBoy 😂 at least that’s who I think they’re referring to.
That’s what I’m trying to figure out
MILK😂😂😂😂
Ayyyyye! Dion! What are the chances yall could add Dion as a 6th to the crew? He’s just enough of a menace for the show lol
TMNT Tournament Fighters on the SNES was so dope! It gave Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat a run for their money.
Great episode. I miss the videos Craig used to post from the pod. Why don’t you make them anymore? They were so funny. Love laughing with you guys. Hope you are all enjoying your summer
30:42 keon a fool! "Lemme explain!" LMAO
When I went back to listen, it wasn’t that Drake was defensive on “The Heart Pt.6” that sounded wild, it’s what he was saying in some parts that had us like “wait, what?” 😂.
Great battle though. He put up a great fight for sure.
Right! It's like his ghost writers were secretly betting against him. And how could he rap those bars without realizing how flawed the reasoning was
They hating but the Deion brought some of the funniest guest moments with the crew on the pod 😂😂
The comedians that they’re not telling Tony that’s beefing is Doboy and Kev, right?
3:33 I’m from Chicago, we got arcade bars: Emporium & Headquarters
Shout out to Dion for always reppin the Pittsburgh hats!!!
Drakes flow is childish. I refuse to de-evolve all my years of hiphop listening to accept that shit. And im the same age as tony. This whole beef was one sided.
Then you are biased and just dont like Drake...but worse than that you obviously dont know Hip Hop to say something like that.
Drake can RAP RAP and was against Kdot don’t get it confused
Yeah, I've never been able to listen to him. Makes my ears itch. How you want me to listen to someone who sounds more bored with his songs than I am?
R Kelly for sure stole Aaron Hall's style and ran with it, But the crazy thing is they both children of Charlie Wilson
Good “beef” discussion. Wasn’t dismissive or one-sided like the nonsense on IG/FB comment sections
People don’t give enough props to Jaheim. Jaheim got back to back good albums.💜✨💯
I was literally having this convo a few days ago. He could easily hold his own in a versus with just about anyone 💯💪🏾🔥
@@tumblweed literally his voice is super solid and his pen/songwriting is really good to.
@@SAKAN012 Our modern day Teddy Pendergrass
I love hearing "@craigwayans on everythang"🥰 Does that make me toxic?🤣
Jay-Z featured on Kanye’s Diamonds of Sierra Leone remix during his 3-year “fake” retirement lol
Dion's LIFE argument was hella flimsy 😂
The thing about opinions is that they suck. Kdot last album wasn’t trash. Kendrick makes art. Drake makes music and most of it isn’t his.
Yea because I thought that album was good but some people want to listen to club music 24/7 and no substance.
FINALLLYYYYYYY!!!!
(What I yelled out when I got the notification✨)
1:18:13 this my Roman Empire 😅. I'm all about a Dolla who tha f is 50 cent 🤣🤣
0:03 By the statement and hand movements i knew exactly what they were talking about 😂😂😂😂
The game consoles I have are Xbox 360, Nintendo Wii, Playstation 2, Sega Dreamcast, Nintendo 64, Sega Genesis and Nintendo
Where is Chaz???!!
Did they even mention Chaz? Lol
@unwoundepower I don't think they did lol. If they did I missed it
Ooo this episode had a bunch of insiders today huh!
Luv for y’all all the same 😂😂😂😂😂
Man, side note, Amere (Amir?) is on 3 of the 3 podcasts that I listen to and his takes and facts are always on point. Shout out to bruh
39:43 naaaah yall comprised too just like AK n SAS 🧐
42:44 Hello 🤣
Street fighter vs X-Men was top tier
They were DEF (no pun intended) talking about Do Boy vs KevOnStage. Still the saddest comedy beef. It’s all love at the end of the day.
Were they talking about Kev Onstage & DoBoy when they mentioned comedians beefing with each other??🤔🤔
42:46 👀 😆😭
What comedian do yall think Dion is talking about??.. I think it’s King Bach😂😂😂
I think Doboy and Kev
buddy happy af to talk about drake career lmao
MK11 Jax seemed to have the hardest combos to me. But they also seemed to be the most entertaining.
Music episode i was fully invested
I'm tired of this narrative that Cole and Kendrick are comparable talents. Kendrick eclipsed Cole as early as Section 80. Cole's absolute best album can go head to head with Section 80 and still feasibly lose. A 4 year run beating your chest on features don't mean shit when you're clearly only doing it cause the Boogeyman isn't outside. Fans convinced by these obvious bluffs clearly haven't listened to all these artist's albums. Unfortunately our high expectations for Cole ended up being met by Kendrick. Most of us witnessed it IN FIRST PERSON, real time. This revisionist history has to stop. They literally traded beats and we only remember the resulting song from 1 of them. Anyone saying Drake was the easier target is coping. Drake was simply THE target. If Cole wasn't so lukewarm he could have easily been targeted and smoked as well, but he KNOWS himself. He knows what some call "his lane" isn't his and he will move for incoming traffic cause he's happy to be here, in the discussion
Nobody doesn't like Drake defending himself. it's how he did it. "im too famous" and "i wouldve been in jail by now" are terrible defenses😂 people who were caught said that exact same things. Famous ppl have been getting caught for some years now anyway. Plus mentioning Millie Bobby Brown and Epstein when kdot mention or implied them is an obvious tell.
Look at the credits for the songs. Drake has 2 additional composers for his first track.
We (females) BEEN using F.A.N. outside. Kendrick did not come up with that exclusively for Drake. I am hoping Dion didn't know that because he has never been called a FAN.
All of this started because Jcole gave Drake and Kendrick a compliment 🤣🤣🤣
Now I’m sitting here like so are the police getting involved? Cause these allegations are serious *in my Tony Baker voice*
They were both sneak dissing in the track
If I was Drake i woulda flipped Kendricks "BOW BOW BOW" Adlib and related it to him beatin his girl