The man who lost his son and brother during the conflict, still shows the courage to fight for unity and a better future. He is an inspiration to us all!
Whilst I also think that it should be called Derry, to be fair to the BBC, the name 'Londonderry' still remains the official name although applications have been officially made to have the city name changed. It seems that most people of both sides used the name Derry on a daily basis, so I don't understand why the UK Government doesn't intervene and simply acknowledge the reality and have it officially known as Derry.
@@shot2x it's a slap in the face. Imagine if England was invaded tomorrow and London was rebranded MoscowLondon. That's how people in Derry and the republic feel.
But the rich become rich by extracting money from the poor. For us all to come together the rich have to voluntarily give up on future income. And generally speaking that’s not a thing that just happens
The same is true in the disenfranchised loyalist estates that are ruled by loyalist gangster/paramilitary groups who exploit this deprivation with their drug dealing and other rackets. The demographic shifts have seen this as an issue more prominent within the loyalist communities and what this report is missing is that the more significant threat of violence on a large scale comes from that community.
Excellent report from N Ireland. I wish there were more people and in particular politicians like that man. Unfortunately very little has been done to reconcile/integrate the two communities since this agreement which brought peace. And the United Kingdom voting to leave the European Union has also fractured this Agreement. There were people in the Republician movement who did oppose the GFA Agreement and the worry is that a younger generation like the loyalists on the other side who did not live through those awful times are tempted to join these paramilitary organisations. We dont seem to have many politicians now like those extraordinary brave politicians who negotiated the GFA. Sadly Some outstanding politicians who have passed on - John Hume SDLP, David Trimble UUP, Martin McGuinness SF David Ervine,PUP,Seamus Mallon,SDLP and ofcourse the best N Ireland Secretary ever in my opinion Moh Mohlam who suffering from terminal Cancer who worked so hard. We will never see the likes of them again.
I still find a return to the past improbable. The conditions which caused the Troubles to boil over into such violence are not in place in Northern Ireland anymore. Active marginalization of an underclass of Catholics is something of the past. The Republic itself looks quite different than it did in the 1960s - prosperous, cosmopolitan, European, far less nationalistic, and noticably more secular. Britain has lost its taste for unionism, is more insular, is less racist and less anti-Irish (mostly), and endorses devolved government. As for Ulster, people have grown used to peace. It's hard to imagine any rush to turn against that.
Mo mowlam worked tirelessly for ira dreams and had loyalist prisoners taken care off.... Biden is no thing to host as Crook at home.. STOP all aphreid faith schools. Only state schools Used to be for intergrated schools BUT again aphreid ppl are ruling their roast. remove all faith schools NI and in UK. We see same problems in England. Gfa ira sinn fein refused to consider such intergration.. So they scared without aphreid school to dilute the vote in catchment aphreid never mixed community.. IN 102 yrs why or where do ppl have this hate from.. Groomed n indoctrinated.. Council housing same 100% mixed however ira in its many forms will terrorise ppl out as in Londonderry derry leaving ppl displaced.
@@Robespierre-lI @EMS the points you make are valid but actually point to what this report is missing: that the most significant security threat comes from large segments of the loyalist communities that have been disenfranchised significantly over the years, due to the political failures of the union itself as well as their own representatives who refuse to work in Stormont (and who communicate with the very paramilitary groups who are sucking the life out of loyalist housing estates, profiting from the despair with their drugs and other rackets). This report gives a very inaccurate picture and "the IRA" is a convenient boogeyman, even though we are told that the active dissidents do not extend far beyond the borders of a small number of estates such as Creggan.
Loyalists bands apply to have their parades. Republicans don't apply for permission, so their parades are illegal. Loyalists bands don't wear balaclavas either. As for bonfires, they're decisive even in unionist communities. Nobody wants them close to their property.
Because they don't throw petrol bombs at loyalist parades. Can you also imagine the smell of an army of the great unwashed as they stamp their feet and intimidate the people with their balaclavas.
@@WHU63 have you seen the violence the unionists bring with their 12th of july marches? puts any republican parades to shame and they still try to march through and past catholic Irish areas
Well said! At least Channel 4 know how important their words are. I'm not in any military groups but even I get angry at the misrepresentation of the Irish people in British media. Imagine if someone was unstable with violent tendencies? Thank you for using your words to try and deescalate instead of escalate.
L3ave Ireland and never come back! Support Ireland from all around the world,they have served as an example of what freedom fight is,800 years and Brits still feel like its not enough.. Supoort from Serbia!
@@micoolkidfilms3270 I didn't know about Karadzic helping you guys out,first time to hear such thing,makes me even prouder. Well it's understandable if you scrape through history a bit deeper..your descendants(Celts) and mine shared living space with each other in are of nowdays Serbia for centuries before you all ended up in Ireland. Our peoples lived next to each other in good fate,and they both trived to a point where our cultures affected each a lot. Take a look at our national dances quite simular? Ha..i could add up additional thibgs worth mentioning from our mutual history,but i will let you do some work too. Serbian capital alone has 5,6 bands playing irish folk music,Celtic football club is loved in our country. I still remember when Red star(Belgrade) played against some English club,all of Serbians wore green that day,and sang Go on home British soldiers hahaha.. Well my good Irish people and former neighboors be proud of what you are,you have many reasons for it! Tiocfaidh ár lá ✊✊✊
@@garyfletcher1910 Northern Ireland was fine land called Ulster 9 counties until Ulster Plantation 1609 by Scottish born English King James I of England VI of Scotland
Division exists everywhere and in every nation but it’s a bit sad to hear only 8% of kids are in integrated Schools some 25 years later. If that’s something that should be applauded the bar is really set low. 24 billion pound was the last amount I heard pumped into NI each year you’d have to ask how could the ROI even with EU help replace that. I hope for a United Ireland in my life time but it’s looks impossible when outside influences keep getting involved but I know GB could better invest that NI money fixing the mess of devolved Welsh and Scottish NHS or even Englands.
New Labour's well-documented promotion of faith schools might be partly responsible for that, which undid some of the progress made by the Good Friday Agreement.
It's one years corporation tax receipts for Ireland. It is a mistake to assume that reunification is an economic " zero sum " It isn't. A United agreed Ireland would thrive.
There's always been an element in Northern Irish politics where political factions in both sides refuse to take responsibility for governing and leading their people. The DUP throws hissy fits constantly. They think that refusing to govern in Stormont is acceptable conduct for a political party. On the Republican side, their political leaders have all too often refused to compromise even in trivial matters both in government and out. All of this behavior is indicative of political immaturity. It might be time for Britain and Ireland to come to their own agreement to sever all ties with Northern Ireland, except to enforce the Good Friday Agreement. This would at least force Belfast to actually form a government that does something to resolve their problems and improve the lives of their peoples. If both Britain and Ireland are refuse to let Northern Ireland be part of either state, tthey would be forced to bicker about more meaningful issues for a change. Dangle a carrot and say that talks of unification with either nation can begin once some benchmarks are met by an independent Stormont government.
@charles I fully support the Good Friday Agreement and always have. I would consider it a remarkable achievement, in fact - right up there the Aland agreement. Don't mistake my musings about an indepedent Northern Ireland as anything but that - musings. But, I am also a historian and one who (for some reason that I am no longer clear about) has always cared about what happens to the people of Ulster. After several decades of watching them beat each other over the head, perhaps I have grown slightly grumpy in my old age about it. Nevertheless, in the history of conflicts like this one (and there have been several in the wake of decolonization), the one solution that no one has ever tried is the one I described ... the "What if we gave neither side what they want, but offered them long-term prospects if they take full responsibility for solving the conflict on their own?" Yes, it is entirely hypothetical. It might descend into violence. Maybe it would become the "Bosnia of the Atlantic Isles." The safer bet is to hold to the GFA, certainly. But if it fails because of recent shifts (Brexit) or other unforeseen ones yet to come? In the meantime, I think all neutral observers of the situation like myself probably would agree that the political immaturity that has become a tradition in the North needs to come to an end.
@@Robespierre-lI Don't you understand, people fought and died to unify the island as one nation, not to capper fasen partition through a in your words independent so called northern ireland, im for peace myself, but that comment you made musings or not doesn't help matters
When talking about modern Ireland one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights. This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on). People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics, ever since…
It's depressing to see the uptick in extremism in NI, among Loyalists and Nationalists. I wish nothing but the best for ppl in NI. They deserve better.
Now go and speak to the loyalist gangster/paramilitary groups, who share council between one another and have the ear of the unionist elements of the establishment there (i.e their leaders sit down and speak with the DUP and the other unionist/loyalist parties), who are currently the very people who are preventing Stormont from doing what it was supposed to be set up to do. Take a look at the grip the loyalist gangsters have on the communities that they pretend to represent but in practice actually terrorise with their control of the rackets - if you follow the news, you'll see a new story about a low-level UDA drug bust at least once a week. The questions were about the IRA and the dissidents, with Creggan being the focal point, but for every Creggan there are twice as many estates run by the other side, and this is the side that has thrown it's toys out of the pram and is refusing to operate along the lines of the GFA because the winds are shifting towards the thing that they fear the most: the end of the union. Brexit brought all of this to the fore when Westminster remembered Ireland (after seeming to have completely forgotten about it when that whole mess was being put to a public that didn't understand it) and wondered how they were going to placate those people who will not tolerate any kind of border with the union. This report is misleading and anybody who has paid any attention to Ulster knows which side is most likely to become aggressive in a way that constitutes a direct threat to the GFA. The dissident threat is minimal in comparison and I'd expect Channel 4 to be aware of that. The demographics are changing and tensions are appearing due to the socioeconomic decay that is felt in Ulster, much like it is felt in other parts of the UK, but republicans actually have answers for it whereas the other side can only attempt to cling onto a past that no longer exists. If we are told that the dissidents are not a large, representative sample and that they are geographically significant in small enclaves but nowhere near to the extent that the PIRA was even towards the eventual agreement, then why are they being presented to the public as the main threat? Channel 4 know better than this and the stirring up of a new fear of the IRA seems to me to be not only misleading but also irresponsible. It gives an inaccurate picture of what's going on there. Of course there will be dissident activity at this time, but when we were last hearing about the "New IRA", the pertinent facts were that the whole leadership had been compromised by an MI5 agent within the leadership. Do people remember that? McFadden was the MI5 man's name and supposedly he had basically shattered the organisation from the top down. This was the news. And remember those heavy riots in the loyalist estates, which were coordinated by paramilitaries via WhatsApp and which had people attempting to goad republicans at the peace lines in order to stir things up? But that was all brushed aside and we're told that the big threat comes from the dissident group that was supposedly seriously disrupted by the MI5 operation whilst ignoring the elephant in the room: the unionist politicians who are boycotting Stormont and who communicate with the loyalist paramilitaries who could kick off at any moment. It reminds me of Brexit in the sense that I couldn't understand whether the politicians simply didn't give any thought to Ireland or whether they were simply ignorant regarding Ireland being crucial in whatever the outcome of Brexit was going to be - is this just lazy reporting or is this media complicity in a scare tactic that is more propaganda than news? I would expect Channel 4 to be more nuanced given that they brand themselves as being such. Or are we meant to be believe that the biggest security threat in the context of Ireland comes from dissident republicans based mostly in Creggan?
Very well explained, i to think does the media stir things up there, even with this state visit see rumblings through the comments and more cases than not they aint coming from a irish man either side from ROI or SF supporters, dialogue is definitely needed beteween all parties, but unionist will always want union and not happy to work with what its got, i mean the south could turn out the be thickle, look what happened with the scots, none who voted independence was expecting what got shoved into the FM seat, shock horror down south aswell for english... The whole reason we went brexit was the rife at the borders, we was lead to believe it would be quelled, then they turn an say if we had stayed the numbers would have been managed more easily, but this is bollox, look at The hotels being filled in ROI, and that vadcar whatever its called is all for it...some pride needs to be swallowed loyalist side and nationalist and a dialect needed for sure, but that potato visiting is not making it smooth over there...
@micoolkid films ! They got f,,k all ! The GFA was the best outcome as British intelligence was all over the PIRA ! Belfast was rotten to its core . Same old story Irish men selling out for a few pounds 💷 !
Derry comes from Doire which is a word from a language that is 2,500 years old. The airport is called Derry Airport. The county council is called Derry County Council.
Derry ///// london two different Jurisdictions. Doire london south of England Derry Dòìre north west island of Ireland. .D U P are Causing all this trouble minority Cannot rule .
@@RandomnessTube. The Lord is evil when he needs to be,(Noah) (destruction of babylon tower) Or be Good ( as guiding moses, so he could help the Jews escape the pharaoh, and to the promised land,) etc The Lord is all seeing, and all knowing,
@charles You don't believe in scripture If you was Christian old testament, I probably would have taken time to listen to you But you don't even believe in jesus (pbuh) What do we need to talk about?
they also like to leave out the unionist involvement with the new IRA, i didnt see 1 segment on the news about the uvf being behind the shooting of the police officer. the new IRA are not a political group they are a gang run by hooligans and protestants to stir up shite.
Only the UVF and UDA still remain out of those and they're nothing more that drug gangs at the moment. Scum as they are, they're not threatening to restart the war like the New IRA are doing.
The recent Irish census 2022 reads as follows 10% of the population on 50% of the land and 70% of subsidies grants ,...40% of the population on 39% of the land and 80% marketshare ,,,and 50% of the population on 10% of the land which mostly comprises public space national parks etc...Never in Irish history has there been such bad land management and never have half the Irish people been on less than 10% of their own country...the remaining 1% comprises embassies ,state buildings airports...that's the true picture in Republic of Ireland.
@@Alexander-vo4gv @EMS Let me explain..as half the space in Republic of Ireland is in the hands of 10% of the people ,they have little influence as voters particularly referendums and therefore they cannot manage it the way they need and know ...if 80% of the market is in the hands of 40% then their labour shortages require migrant labour ...until the economy slumps then they have no space for that labour ...they can only push them on to the remaining space by referendum'...fair elections become impossible and the public space is already packed.... Regulations can not be achieved without universal consent and self determination becomes the relativism of one ...That one is usually ,force...force of reason by those whom grabbed more land than they need or could manage and reason of force by those whom grabbed more market that they need or could manage ...these two groups are exhausting the population' resources to avoid the clash they must have ..and the 50% population cannot enter either society until that occurs...or risk contagion ...
GFA has worked ok for 25+ years. The main issue for it is it assumes that you must have the biggest unionist and biggest republican party as first minister and deputy first minister, regardless if they take their seats. Living here, despite what you might think, the place won't collapse if they let those willing to govern or sit in a coalition of the willing. It is very unfair to SDLP, Alliance, UUP, etc that they are not able to do that, becuase of those outdated rule. I think those that don't take their seat should not get paid, and after a period of refusing to do so they should be ejected and disqualified from the next election. It is fair that if you run in an election in order to be a representatives of an assembly you are expected to turn up to said assembly otherwise don't run. Especially if you expect to get paid. I also never was one for abstention, in modern politics you have to use all the platforms available, and one of the failures is poor education about NI in GB, and that is becuase the narrative is being controlled by zealots who supported vote out of fear largely. I agree that there is segregation in education, but unfortunately it is the older generation that is letting the younger generations down. Privately the younger generation has very, very different perspective, they are just very apathetic about engagement and this becuase they rightly observe that the Northern Ireland is used to be talked about, the actual representation is limited, even thought direct rule has represented a failure of successive NI government bizarrely some unionist try to use it as threat, even though it would be their failure and not something they have much choice in anymore thankfully. A lot in mainland UK views the troubles through the lenses of the early 70s onwards. They are not aware of peaceful effort that came before this and tried to continue to address various social issues. They are also not that aware of the impact of Operation Demetrius on voting patterns or even the names of the other parties.
@charles they can be mad, but if they don't turn up they have only themselves to blame. People are getting tired of it. Sure there are some that will be drawn to the TUV, but they have outright said they don't wan to sit becuase there is a Sinn Fein First Minister voted in, e.g. saying the silent bit out loud. Silent majority is often touted, but in this case people really are getting fed up with the dramatics and toys been thrown out of the pram and I think DUP likely to loose ground in the future and not just to the TUV. Most people understand the economic reality, they know where to buy fuel and meat were it is suits, and are not complaining about getting Cheese from England.
Ah. It is interesting to read your thoughts. I'm a historian. I am neither British nor Irish but someone who has followed Northern Irish history for three decades (four if you count my childhood when I watched the Troubles unfold slackjawwed at how such things could be happening in that part of the world.) The internet has mostly been a platform for all the trivial, hateful and unproductive thoughts and banter that have characterized the Northern Ireland conflict for decades to be fully visible to all. But, occasionally, there is someone like yourself who shows up to remind us that there are (and probably have always been) reasonable and thoughtful people who want a sustainable peaceful solution and good goverance in the North. I know this must seem like stating the obvious to you - but you are probably also painfully aware that in the rest of the world, Northern Ireland has been reduced to a caricature of sectarian violence, incompetant governance and petty bickering. I actually rather like your ideas for a reform to the current system. The issue will always be that any changes to the Good Friday Agreement arrangements will need to be peacefully negotiated and agreed to by both sides. That has always been a "tall order." One thing I haven't completely understood about politics in Stormont since the GFA is why, exactly, the DUP and Sinn Fein grew in representation and democratic popularity. Back then, I was predicting that the SDLP and UUP would grow at their expense. Clearly, I was wrong. The emergence of Alliance to be a stronger force recently has also surprised me. This is something that I never predicted. I thought viable parties built on principles other than sectarianism would be impossible for a few generations, once the old bigotries had dissolved away into a fainter memory. Now, I am wondering if the way forward would be for the people of Northern Ireland might be some kind of loose coalition between Alliance, the SDLP, UUP and Alliance simply on the agreed principle of "We deserve to have a government working for all the people in Stormont." Perhaps they could agree to a moritorium on the question of he long-term political destiny of the six counties, just to take care of education, the economy and employment, welfare, etc. That would be a way forward. I wonder what it would take for the people of both communities and their politicians to make it happen? I could imagine a unified UUP-SDLP-Alliance political campaign focused on shaming Sinn Fein and the DUP for their failure to govern and proposing functional governement as a potentially successful strategy.
@@bonniesumo1004 brexiteers really can't form a coherent argument about why brexit was good (because it wasn't, Jacob Rees mog had years to give a brexit benefit and he found 0) so they result to saying "oh, what about ____!" as if it has any relevancy at all
@@christianmccann9400 water doesn't stop mass migration or foreign investment firms buying all the housing stock but this idea that remaining in the UK will stop this for the people of Northern Ireland is reta*ded.
Exactly. Fighting for what? They win their 6 counties back so that they can unite the island can give it away to foreigners? Because that's what Ireland will become in due time. And it's only then that they will realize they had more in common with the Unionists in the North than they thought.
The only way forward for the North of Ireland is to educate the children together one generation educate them together and let's see what happens hopefully hatred and bigotry will start to go away
A family friend died in NI, Sergeant Stephen Winkler, 1986. 🏴 Lot of unanswered questions who did it. It didn't add up. Third party agent provocateur? Humm...
It's time to move on, Sinn Fein is now the majority and the reunification of Ireland is coming. We have to embrace our Loyalist neighbours and prove to them they have nothing to fear in a New Ireland. There is no need for more pointless deaths. Forget Religion. The working class are stronger together. 🇮🇪
@@whitetroutchannel you have treachery in large numbers down there, mostly the millenials and they are their own, they're calling their own country folk, even women and the old, " natzies" and" razist," as they want an open door policy for illigal ime gruntz , the staunch natives have seen with their own eyes the mess thats being enforced on them, they no longer feel safe and worry for their daughters mostly, as whole villiage's are overun with 16 to 30 year old males squeezing up to 200 at a time in hotels or butlins type places, they worried about their irish culture being wiped out to and diluted, and they should be, look at england? , and i am english, wales aint as bad though but they're doing it there slowly aswell, its only scotland that seems to have escaped the worst of it, but boy thell be in for a shock if they get independence especially if their man they got now is still sitting..
@@kingofcards9 Thats exactly what you need to do is to cope with the truth. The Republic of Ireland waived there rights to the constitution of N I when they voted in huge numbers for the GFA 25 years ago and the P I R A surrendered to the British principal of consent. So its not for the Irish in fact the British is the least of your worries, From what im led to believe Ireland is for every race apart for the Irish who come last so enjoy the benefits of the E U there. As i say its 2023.
@@kingofcards9 Oh im from Northern Ireland mate and theres no comparison between Belfast and Dublin when it comes to immigration. And that will get even worse for Dublin now that the UK has left the EU. And even on that im not on here saying Britain is for the British thats you doing that like a backward simpleton. We have a very large Irish community in the U K in fact 6 million more than the population of Ireland itself and there very welcome.
Brexit is to blame. Any sane person could see what damage Brexit would do. The Brexiteers thought they could just leave and nothing would change except, Britain would rule the seas again.
It’s very cringey these young republicans have never actually lived thru oppression, and they’re literally defying the wishes of both communities across both countries . Self styled terrorised
@@albefuctivino1488even though they've been living there for centuries and are vital to the northern irish economy? This sort of rhetoric is the exact reason why the island was partitioned in the first place. You're unable to understand the concerns of those who oppose your ideas and are unwilling to compromise with them in the hopes of later reconciling them into a united ireland.
If only the power could get shared equally with a outside independent adjudicator, like a welsh assembly sitter, what is so wrong with being labelled Northern??? Its still ireland for christ sake, make up a new flag together and constitution that both ROI and Uk both aproove on aswell as NI inside factions, even clarification from the scots or welsh if need be that all agree on so can be passed, become like a defacto state like Gibraltar...as with them they have so called spanish speakers that allie with brits, and spanish who allies with spain but they all get along.
The GFA was always destined to fail. Often hailed as a wonderful achievement A lot of the media fail to recognise that the GFA was sold to unionism and nationalism in completely different ways therefore it was always doomed to fail. Nationalism was told it was a peaceful means to get a united ireland and Unionism thought it meant the union was safe. The recent change by the Biritish Government of the NI act (the legislation that brings the GFA into law) tells unionism that the GFA isnt worth the paper its written on.
The change came when the UK left the EU and threw Ni into uncertainty, many in the unionist communities thought leaving the EU would put a border on the island, they missed calculated and are now throwing a hissy fit.
The GFA upholds the rule of majority. As demographics continue to change the end game is in motion. Once a unionist majority is lost (5 or 10 years) the games is over never to return, it cant , it's impossible. You can't return to a union that doesnt want you
Once again the very small dissident Republican groups are highlighted, while Loyalist groups who have caused so much suffering through criminal activities in their own communities, closing local businesses etc. are never mentioned as though they don’t exist.
Enjoyed the subject of the video. I thought the video unfairly only showed extreme Nationalists marching. Since The Protocol, it has been Unionists doing exactly the same things.
When you have no acting local government what is going to happen. IMO if people won't take up their seats that should be their loss, the system should work anyway
It is quite simple. Withdraw state support for any school which does not reflect mixed communities or is religious in nature. Let the pay privately. Redefine all school catchment areas to include areas from both communities. You live at X or Y address? Sorry, but that is your school, else you go private.
It's just dumb that the British government needs to insert itself into Ireland like why can't it just be one nation as an American with Irish blood I long for the day were Ireland is its own nation free of the British and free to be its own
All the yobs with petrol bombs and covered faces looked like children to me, mere kids. I wonder if their parents know what they get up and if they would condemn or condone their behaviour.
@Alan07 Yeah Ireland should totally throw away it's new found growth and improved QoL to get sanctioned into oblivion by the USA for violating protocol and risk being in another NATO-Russia proxy war (just like Ukraine) just to "stick it" to the Brits (English mostly). How's the KGB paycheck btw?
Britain to China: Taiwan has the right to be independent country. Also, Britain: Northern Ireland cannot join Ireland. Isn't this hypocrisy of the highest order 😂
Northern Ireland can join Ireland when there is a majority in the north that wish to do so. The UK government would love to unite Ireland and save British government the 13 billion quid a year thats needed to keep NI functioning. There is absolutely no comparison to be had with China and Taiwan
But the Good Friday Agreement said NI can join Ireland. Taiwan would have no rights and freedoms preserved under China, just look at what happened to Hong Kong, and the Taiwanese don't want that.
@@ohajohaha So, you're supporting secessionist movement in China now? And if IN can join Ireland, why the heavy UK armoured vehicles and clash witn Northern Ireland residents. Why not subject IN to a referendum?
Some of these guys just need to give it up. Join the IRA? That is not the answer. There is no other show in town other than the GFA. In fact this kind of thing will just impede a united Ireland which will come in time. First integrated schooling had to happen and an end to all of these types of demonstrations have to happen.
Fooling people into thinking you've given them something good will only last for so long they will eventually realize they've been duped yet again by religious politics.
The man who lost his son and brother during the conflict, still shows the courage to fight for unity and a better future. He is an inspiration to us all!
agreed.
Unity in yours and his dreams.
@@koeman1873 DUP doing everything speed up a united Ireland it's thier fault not Sinn Féin this time.
@@RobertK1993
It's united.
North and South under the jackboot.
@@gaeilgeanois9314
If you're wrong about that what else are you wrong about?
Well done Channel 4, Derry City it is.
BBC always calls it only 'Londonderry' - typical!
Whilst I also think that it should be called Derry, to be fair to the BBC, the name 'Londonderry' still remains the official name although applications have been officially made to have the city name changed. It seems that most people of both sides used the name Derry on a daily basis, so I don't understand why the UK Government doesn't intervene and simply acknowledge the reality and have it officially known as Derry.
You’re part of yhe problem mate derry londonderry doesn’t matter
No, I heard the bbc call it Derry as well, depending on who they are talking to.
@@andrewjones-productionswe should just change the name to something both sides can agree upon.
@@shot2x it's a slap in the face. Imagine if England was invaded tomorrow and London was rebranded MoscowLondon. That's how people in Derry and the republic feel.
The island of Éire ☘️, no borders on our maps, never has, never will be 💚
No borders whatsoever, nevermind within Ireland.
Tell that to Ukraine Vladimir
@Northern Dawn How so no border is fair no border down Irish sea same for island of Ireland Ulster Loyalists and Unionists can't have one way.
@@garyfletcher1910 Ulster Scots Presbyterians Unionists and Loyalists are only ones with hate
They are poor. Nothing to loose. No self value. This affords an opportunity for status and meaning. Tackle the poverty.
But the rich become rich by extracting money from the poor. For us all to come together the rich have to voluntarily give up on future income. And generally speaking that’s not a thing that just happens
The same is true in the disenfranchised loyalist estates that are ruled by loyalist gangster/paramilitary groups who exploit this deprivation with their drug dealing and other rackets. The demographic shifts have seen this as an issue more prominent within the loyalist communities and what this report is missing is that the more significant threat of violence on a large scale comes from that community.
Who’s poor
Excellent report from N Ireland. I wish there were more people and in particular politicians like that man.
Unfortunately very little has been done to reconcile/integrate the two communities since this agreement which brought peace. And the United Kingdom voting to leave the European Union has also fractured this Agreement.
There were people in the Republician movement who did oppose the GFA Agreement and the worry is that
a younger generation like the loyalists on the other side who did not live through those awful times are tempted to join these paramilitary organisations.
We dont seem to have many politicians now like those extraordinary brave politicians who negotiated the GFA. Sadly Some outstanding politicians who have passed on - John Hume SDLP, David Trimble UUP, Martin McGuinness SF
David Ervine,PUP,Seamus Mallon,SDLP and ofcourse the best N Ireland Secretary ever in my opinion Moh Mohlam who suffering from terminal Cancer who worked so hard. We will never see the likes of them again.
I still find a return to the past improbable. The conditions which caused the Troubles to boil over into such violence are not in place in Northern Ireland anymore. Active marginalization of an underclass of Catholics is something of the past. The Republic itself looks quite different than it did in the 1960s - prosperous, cosmopolitan, European, far less nationalistic, and noticably more secular. Britain has lost its taste for unionism, is more insular, is less racist and less anti-Irish (mostly), and endorses devolved government.
As for Ulster, people have grown used to peace. It's hard to imagine any rush to turn against that.
Mo mowlam worked tirelessly for ira dreams and had loyalist prisoners taken care off....
Biden is no thing to host as Crook at home..
STOP all aphreid faith schools. Only state schools
Used to be for intergrated schools BUT again aphreid ppl are ruling their roast. remove all faith schools NI and in UK. We see same problems in England. Gfa ira sinn fein refused to consider such intergration.. So they scared without aphreid school to dilute the vote in catchment aphreid never mixed community..
IN 102 yrs why or where do ppl have this hate from.. Groomed n indoctrinated..
Council housing same 100% mixed however ira in its many forms will terrorise ppl out as in Londonderry derry leaving ppl displaced.
North of Ireland. Enuf said.
@@Robespierre-lI @EMS the points you make are valid but actually point to what this report is missing: that the most significant security threat comes from large segments of the loyalist communities that have been disenfranchised significantly over the years, due to the political failures of the union itself as well as their own representatives who refuse to work in Stormont (and who communicate with the very paramilitary groups who are sucking the life out of loyalist housing estates, profiting from the despair with their drugs and other rackets). This report gives a very inaccurate picture and "the IRA" is a convenient boogeyman, even though we are told that the active dissidents do not extend far beyond the borders of a small number of estates such as Creggan.
@@dooleycorrigan8067 ok Putin free Ukraine
We as Irish people have no grevenc towards any people's,,once you do not inflict your will upon us ,,
What I dont understand is nationalist parades are seen as illegal and threat, but loyalist bonfires and parades are seen as a celebration
Loyalists bands apply to have their parades. Republicans don't apply for permission, so their parades are illegal. Loyalists bands don't wear balaclavas either. As for bonfires, they're decisive even in unionist communities. Nobody wants them close to their property.
The only reason they are seen as illegal is that they dont get permission to parade, simple.
@@koeman1873 Maybe the violence that they bring with them is the reason.
Because they don't throw petrol bombs at loyalist parades. Can you also imagine the smell of an army of the great unwashed as they stamp their feet and intimidate the people with their balaclavas.
@@WHU63 have you seen the violence the unionists bring with their 12th of july marches? puts any republican parades to shame and they still try to march through and past catholic Irish areas
Well said! At least Channel 4 know how important their words are. I'm not in any military groups but even I get angry at the misrepresentation of the Irish people in British media. Imagine if someone was unstable with violent tendencies? Thank you for using your words to try and deescalate instead of escalate.
Ireland has joined the fourthreich.
Words can't deescalate that.
@@richardgallagher4880 what a stupid comment.
@@richardgallagher4880 Northern Ireland is part of Fourth deich a failed one the Disunited Kingdom 😂
@@RobertK1993
Most of Europe has just renounced their sov.
We'll have another one soon.
@@RobertK1993
What a bitter little man.
For e igner or a trey t0r?
L3ave Ireland and never come back!
Support Ireland from all around the world,they have served as an example of what freedom fight is,800 years and Brits still feel like its not enough..
Supoort from Serbia!
🇮🇪🤝🇷🇸
Kosovo je srbija Ulaidh ís Éirnn
🇮🇪❤️🇷🇸
Never forget the support karadžić sent to us
@@micoolkidfilms3270 I didn't know about Karadzic helping you guys out,first time to hear such thing,makes me even prouder.
Well it's understandable if you scrape through history a bit deeper..your descendants(Celts) and mine shared living space with each other in are of nowdays Serbia for centuries before you all ended up in Ireland.
Our peoples lived next to each other in good fate,and they both trived to a point where our cultures affected each a lot.
Take a look at our national dances quite simular? Ha..i could add up additional thibgs worth mentioning from our mutual history,but i will let you do some work too.
Serbian capital alone has 5,6 bands playing irish folk music,Celtic football club is loved in our country.
I still remember when Red star(Belgrade) played against some English club,all of Serbians wore green that day,and sang Go on home British soldiers hahaha..
Well my good Irish people and former neighboors be proud of what you are,you have many reasons for it!
Tiocfaidh ár lá ✊✊✊
IRELAND UNFREE SHALL NEVER BE A PEACE 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Northern Ireland want to remain British clown democracy over mindless killing F the IRA
@@garyfletcher1910 Northern Ireland was fine land called Ulster 9 counties until Ulster Plantation 1609 by Scottish born English King James I of England VI of Scotland
IRELAND IS STILL NOT FREE UNDER A REPUBLIC, 🤔THE REPUBLIC IS RUN BY BRUSSELS, BRUSSELS IS A UNION 🙄🇪🇺=NO INDEPENDENCE 🤷🏻
Violence isn't the solution, do you really want the past to happen again? Unreal
Division exists everywhere and in every nation but it’s a bit sad to hear only 8% of kids are in integrated Schools some 25 years later. If that’s something that should be applauded the bar is really set low. 24 billion pound was the last amount I heard pumped into NI each year you’d have to ask how could the ROI even with EU help replace that. I hope for a United Ireland in my life time but it’s looks impossible when outside influences keep getting involved but I know GB could better invest that NI money fixing the mess of devolved Welsh and Scottish NHS or even Englands.
New Labour's well-documented promotion of faith schools might be partly responsible for that, which undid some of the progress made by the Good Friday Agreement.
It's one years corporation tax receipts for Ireland.
It is a mistake to assume that reunification is an economic " zero sum "
It isn't. A United agreed Ireland would thrive.
@@genghisthegreat2034 New "solidarity tax" like Germany introduced "temporarily" to pay for its unification 1989. Still charging it 30 years later.
There's always been an element in Northern Irish politics where political factions in both sides refuse to take responsibility for governing and leading their people. The DUP throws hissy fits constantly. They think that refusing to govern in Stormont is acceptable conduct for a political party. On the Republican side, their political leaders have all too often refused to compromise even in trivial matters both in government and out.
All of this behavior is indicative of political immaturity. It might be time for Britain and Ireland to come to their own agreement to sever all ties with Northern Ireland, except to enforce the Good Friday Agreement. This would at least force Belfast to actually form a government that does something to resolve their problems and improve the lives of their peoples. If both Britain and Ireland are refuse to let Northern Ireland be part of either state, tthey would be forced to bicker about more meaningful issues for a change.
Dangle a carrot and say that talks of unification with either nation can begin once some benchmarks are met by an independent Stormont government.
Its the occupied north just like the news calls it in Palestine
@charles I fully support the Good Friday Agreement and always have. I would consider it a remarkable achievement, in fact - right up there the Aland agreement. Don't mistake my musings about an indepedent Northern Ireland as anything but that - musings. But, I am also a historian and one who (for some reason that I am no longer clear about) has always cared about what happens to the people of Ulster. After several decades of watching them beat each other over the head, perhaps I have grown slightly grumpy in my old age about it.
Nevertheless, in the history of conflicts like this one (and there have been several in the wake of decolonization), the one solution that no one has ever tried is the one I described ... the "What if we gave neither side what they want, but offered them long-term prospects if they take full responsibility for solving the conflict on their own?" Yes, it is entirely hypothetical. It might descend into violence. Maybe it would become the "Bosnia of the Atlantic Isles." The safer bet is to hold to the GFA, certainly. But if it fails because of recent shifts (Brexit) or other unforeseen ones yet to come?
In the meantime, I think all neutral observers of the situation like myself probably would agree that the political immaturity that has become a tradition in the North needs to come to an end.
@@Robespierre-lI Don't you understand, people fought and died to unify the island as one nation, not to capper fasen partition through a in your words independent so called northern ireland, im for peace myself, but that comment you made musings or not doesn't help matters
When talking about modern Ireland one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights.
This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on).
People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics, ever since…
They had a funny way of showing it .... oppressive fuckers
It's depressing to see the uptick in extremism in NI, among Loyalists and Nationalists. I wish nothing but the best for ppl in NI. They deserve better.
The fourthreich has taken bel fast.
Hiw could there possibly be any extremism?
Consequences of Brexit…
#Breshit
Stupidity knows no bounds in the Tory Party.
David Cameron, what a daft melt.
Now go and speak to the loyalist gangster/paramilitary groups, who share council between one another and have the ear of the unionist elements of the establishment there (i.e their leaders sit down and speak with the DUP and the other unionist/loyalist parties), who are currently the very people who are preventing Stormont from doing what it was supposed to be set up to do. Take a look at the grip the loyalist gangsters have on the communities that they pretend to represent but in practice actually terrorise with their control of the rackets - if you follow the news, you'll see a new story about a low-level UDA drug bust at least once a week. The questions were about the IRA and the dissidents, with Creggan being the focal point, but for every Creggan there are twice as many estates run by the other side, and this is the side that has thrown it's toys out of the pram and is refusing to operate along the lines of the GFA because the winds are shifting towards the thing that they fear the most: the end of the union. Brexit brought all of this to the fore when Westminster remembered Ireland (after seeming to have completely forgotten about it when that whole mess was being put to a public that didn't understand it) and wondered how they were going to placate those people who will not tolerate any kind of border with the union. This report is misleading and anybody who has paid any attention to Ulster knows which side is most likely to become aggressive in a way that constitutes a direct threat to the GFA. The dissident threat is minimal in comparison and I'd expect Channel 4 to be aware of that. The demographics are changing and tensions are appearing due to the socioeconomic decay that is felt in Ulster, much like it is felt in other parts of the UK, but republicans actually have answers for it whereas the other side can only attempt to cling onto a past that no longer exists. If we are told that the dissidents are not a large, representative sample and that they are geographically significant in small enclaves but nowhere near to the extent that the PIRA was even towards the eventual agreement, then why are they being presented to the public as the main threat? Channel 4 know better than this and the stirring up of a new fear of the IRA seems to me to be not only misleading but also irresponsible. It gives an inaccurate picture of what's going on there. Of course there will be dissident activity at this time, but when we were last hearing about the "New IRA", the pertinent facts were that the whole leadership had been compromised by an MI5 agent within the leadership. Do people remember that? McFadden was the MI5 man's name and supposedly he had basically shattered the organisation from the top down. This was the news. And remember those heavy riots in the loyalist estates, which were coordinated by paramilitaries via WhatsApp and which had people attempting to goad republicans at the peace lines in order to stir things up? But that was all brushed aside and we're told that the big threat comes from the dissident group that was supposedly seriously disrupted by the MI5 operation whilst ignoring the elephant in the room: the unionist politicians who are boycotting Stormont and who communicate with the loyalist paramilitaries who could kick off at any moment. It reminds me of Brexit in the sense that I couldn't understand whether the politicians simply didn't give any thought to Ireland or whether they were simply ignorant regarding Ireland being crucial in whatever the outcome of Brexit was going to be - is this just lazy reporting or is this media complicity in a scare tactic that is more propaganda than news? I would expect Channel 4 to be more nuanced given that they brand themselves as being such. Or are we meant to be believe that the biggest security threat in the context of Ireland comes from dissident republicans based mostly in Creggan?
Well informed on what's happening on the ground ! 💯 ✅️ !
Very well explained, i to think does the media stir things up there, even with this state visit see rumblings through the comments and more cases than not they aint coming from a irish man either side from ROI or SF supporters, dialogue is definitely needed beteween all parties, but unionist will always want union and not happy to work with what its got, i mean the south could turn out the be thickle, look what happened with the scots, none who voted independence was expecting what got shoved into the FM seat, shock horror down south aswell for english... The whole reason we went brexit was the rife at the borders, we was lead to believe it would be quelled, then they turn an say if we had stayed the numbers would have been managed more easily, but this is bollox, look at The hotels being filled in ROI, and that vadcar whatever its called is all for it...some pride needs to be swallowed loyalist side and nationalist and a dialect needed for sure, but that potato visiting is not making it smooth over there...
Loyalists have no reason to fight after 98, they got what they wanted unlike us nationalists
@micoolkid films ! They got f,,k all ! The GFA was the best outcome as British intelligence was all over the PIRA ! Belfast was rotten to its core . Same old story Irish men selling out for a few pounds 💷 !
Great respect for the gentleman that lost so much, he is a true Northern Irish gentleman
Derry comes from Doire which is a word from a language that is 2,500 years old.
The airport is called Derry Airport.
The county council is called Derry County Council.
And the city itself is legally called Londonderry
Derry ///// london two different Jurisdictions. Doire london south of England Derry Dòìre north west island of Ireland. .D U P are Causing all this trouble minority Cannot rule .
@@jambon2834 It's not though.
@@stiofain88 yes it is, Londonderry in Northern Ireland, the United kingdom
ONLY BECAUSE LIKE KHAN RAMADAM ARABIC SIGNS ITS APHREID EDUCATED? IN CONTROL OF COUNCILS
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God”
@charles I think you're getting mixed up with Satan.
@@RandomnessTube.
The Lord is evil when he needs to be,(Noah) (destruction of babylon tower)
Or be Good ( as guiding moses, so he could help the Jews escape the pharaoh, and to the promised land,) etc
The Lord is all seeing, and all knowing,
@charles
You don't believe in scripture
If you was Christian old testament, I probably would have taken time to listen to you
But you don't even believe in jesus (pbuh)
What do we need to talk about?
Derry, the only place in the world with six silent letters
You mean that Roman village on another island?
Free. I never meet a silent derry man.we will free her one day.were irish men and woman .thats all..with pride.
@@stephengrimmer35 Roman village?
empty foodbanks, hungry people = anger
Singing terrorist songs about ethnically cleansing Northern Irish= anger
Comparing the troubles and the people involved to the Nazis is deranged
Nice to see the youth doing some exercise in the fresh air instead of watching a screen all day.
Pray for peace for both said peoples God make easy for family and friends who lost their loved ones Ameen
Tans out
This is almost a DUP/TUV Party Political Broadcast ffs
Have ya not heard of the UVF, UDA, RHC, LVF, UPV & UR!
they also like to leave out the unionist involvement with the new IRA, i didnt see 1 segment on the news about the uvf being behind the shooting of the police officer. the new IRA are not a political group they are a gang run by hooligans and protestants to stir up shite.
Only the UVF and UDA still remain out of those and they're nothing more that drug gangs at the moment. Scum as they are, they're not threatening to restart the war like the New IRA are doing.
Or DMZ or VLCC or VPVC or RAOB or CIU
Ireland is still paying the price of British colonialism
And always will.
Brits out now.....then let whatever happens happen
So you can ethnically cleanse the Northern Irish like Russia is doing to Ukraine
The recent Irish census 2022 reads as follows 10% of the population on 50% of the land and 70% of subsidies grants ,...40% of the population on 39% of the land and 80% marketshare ,,,and 50% of the population on 10% of the land which mostly comprises public space national parks etc...Never in Irish history has there been such bad land management and never have half the Irish people been on less than 10% of their own country...the remaining 1% comprises embassies ,state buildings airports...that's the true picture in Republic of Ireland.
What
You are talking Garbage
@@liamg1706 It's a bot that spams the same intelligible statistics on every Northern Ireland video yet apparently can't replicate passable grammar.
what does this have to do with anything
@@Alexander-vo4gv @EMS Let me explain..as half the space in Republic of Ireland is in the hands of 10% of the people ,they have little influence as voters particularly referendums and therefore they cannot manage it the way they need and know ...if 80% of the market is in the hands of 40% then their labour shortages require migrant labour ...until the economy slumps then they have no space for that labour ...they can only push them on to the remaining space by referendum'...fair elections become impossible and the public space is already packed.... Regulations can not be achieved without universal consent and self determination becomes the relativism of one ...That one is usually ,force...force of reason by those whom grabbed more land than they need or could manage and reason of force by those whom grabbed more market that they need or could manage ...these two groups are exhausting the population' resources to avoid the clash they must have ..and the 50% population cannot enter either society until that occurs...or risk contagion ...
Well said, great man to interview
GFA has worked ok for 25+ years. The main issue for it is it assumes that you must have the biggest unionist and biggest republican party as first minister and deputy first minister, regardless if they take their seats.
Living here, despite what you might think, the place won't collapse if they let those willing to govern or sit in a coalition of the willing. It is very unfair to SDLP, Alliance, UUP, etc that they are not able to do that, becuase of those outdated rule.
I think those that don't take their seat should not get paid, and after a period of refusing to do so they should be ejected and disqualified from the next election. It is fair that if you run in an election in order to be a representatives of an assembly you are expected to turn up to said assembly otherwise don't run. Especially if you expect to get paid. I also never was one for abstention, in modern politics you have to use all the platforms available, and one of the failures is poor education about NI in GB, and that is becuase the narrative is being controlled by zealots who supported vote out of fear largely.
I agree that there is segregation in education, but unfortunately it is the older generation that is letting the younger generations down. Privately the younger generation has very, very different perspective, they are just very apathetic about engagement and this becuase they rightly observe that the Northern Ireland is used to be talked about, the actual representation is limited, even thought direct rule has represented a failure of successive NI government bizarrely some unionist try to use it as threat, even though it would be their failure and not something they have much choice in anymore thankfully.
A lot in mainland UK views the troubles through the lenses of the early 70s onwards. They are not aware of peaceful effort that came before this and tried to continue to address various social issues. They are also not that aware of the impact of Operation Demetrius on voting patterns or even the names of the other parties.
@charles they can be mad, but if they don't turn up they have only themselves to blame.
People are getting tired of it. Sure there are some that will be drawn to the TUV, but they have outright said they don't wan to sit becuase there is a Sinn Fein First Minister voted in, e.g. saying the silent bit out loud.
Silent majority is often touted, but in this case people really are getting fed up with the dramatics and toys been thrown out of the pram and I think DUP likely to loose ground in the future and not just to the TUV.
Most people understand the economic reality, they know where to buy fuel and meat were it is suits, and are not complaining about getting Cheese from England.
Ah. It is interesting to read your thoughts. I'm a historian. I am neither British nor Irish but someone who has followed Northern Irish history for three decades (four if you count my childhood when I watched the Troubles unfold slackjawwed at how such things could be happening in that part of the world.) The internet has mostly been a platform for all the trivial, hateful and unproductive thoughts and banter that have characterized the Northern Ireland conflict for decades to be fully visible to all. But, occasionally, there is someone like yourself who shows up to remind us that there are (and probably have always been) reasonable and thoughtful people who want a sustainable peaceful solution and good goverance in the North. I know this must seem like stating the obvious to you - but you are probably also painfully aware that in the rest of the world, Northern Ireland has been reduced to a caricature of sectarian violence, incompetant governance and petty bickering.
I actually rather like your ideas for a reform to the current system. The issue will always be that any changes to the Good Friday Agreement arrangements will need to be peacefully negotiated and agreed to by both sides. That has always been a "tall order."
One thing I haven't completely understood about politics in Stormont since the GFA is why, exactly, the DUP and Sinn Fein grew in representation and democratic popularity. Back then, I was predicting that the SDLP and UUP would grow at their expense. Clearly, I was wrong.
The emergence of Alliance to be a stronger force recently has also surprised me. This is something that I never predicted. I thought viable parties built on principles other than sectarianism would be impossible for a few generations, once the old bigotries had dissolved away into a fainter memory.
Now, I am wondering if the way forward would be for the people of Northern Ireland might be some kind of loose coalition between Alliance, the SDLP, UUP and Alliance simply on the agreed principle of "We deserve to have a government working for all the people in Stormont." Perhaps they could agree to a moritorium on the question of he long-term political destiny of the six counties, just to take care of education, the economy and employment, welfare, etc.
That would be a way forward. I wonder what it would take for the people of both communities and their politicians to make it happen? I could imagine a unified UUP-SDLP-Alliance political campaign focused on shaming Sinn Fein and the DUP for their failure to govern and proposing functional governement as a potentially successful strategy.
go on home british soldiers go on home
They did 2007
Remoaners were not moaning after all.
How are things in France.😂
They're definitely still moaning.
@@bonniesumo1004 Better than in all UK constituencies.
@@bonniesumo1004 brexiteers really can't form a coherent argument about why brexit was good (because it wasn't, Jacob Rees mog had years to give a brexit benefit and he found 0) so they result to saying "oh, what about ____!" as if it has any relevancy at all
Nice to see C4 referring to Derry. No wonder Nadine Dorries had it in for them!
What good is a united Ireland when Sinn Fein and most political parties in Ireland are committed to open borders?
Ireland s an island surrounded by water you fool .. lol
@@christianmccann9400 water doesn't stop mass migration or foreign investment firms buying all the housing stock but this idea that remaining in the UK will stop this for the people of Northern Ireland is reta*ded.
Exactly. Fighting for what? They win their 6 counties back so that they can unite the island can give it away to foreigners? Because that's what Ireland will become in due time. And it's only then that they will realize they had more in common with the Unionists in the North than they thought.
@@themisanthropichumanist7050 Tan what business is it of yours? It's not your fcuking island.
@Christian McCann fool he is right go put your mask on get your 5 jab and hide under the bed.
United 🇮🇪
It is clown united with Britain it's what northern Ireland wants free Ukraine
Delighted to see you call the city Derry and not Londonderry.
Ah bless its a stamping competition 😂
It’s failing because of the dup and brexit. Ye both broke the Good Friday Agreement
The only way forward for the North of Ireland is to educate the children together one generation educate them together and let's see what happens hopefully hatred and bigotry will start to go away
Good luck with that.
Blame the Catholic church who vehemently opposed any kind of integrated education.
Londonderry🇬🇧🇬🇧
If you love the London. Why dont pack up and bring your mongrel feces of a family with you..hun kunt.
A family friend died in NI, Sergeant Stephen Winkler, 1986. 🏴
Lot of unanswered questions who did it. It didn't add up. Third party agent provocateur? Humm...
The DUP is failing the GFA
Short answer - Yes. Brexit will restart the troubles. I did say that back in 2016, but it was dismissed as "project fear"
It's time to move on, Sinn Fein is now the majority and the reunification of Ireland is coming. We have to embrace our Loyalist neighbours and prove to them they have nothing to fear in a New Ireland. There is no need for more pointless deaths. Forget Religion. The working class are stronger together. 🇮🇪
whats all the protests about in the free state then if its such a wonderful place? every media outlet seems intent in covering those up
@@whitetroutchannel you have treachery in large numbers down there, mostly the millenials and they are their own, they're calling their own country folk, even women and the old, " natzies" and" razist," as they want an open door policy for illigal ime gruntz , the staunch natives have seen with their own eyes the mess thats being enforced on them, they no longer feel safe and worry for their daughters mostly, as whole villiage's are overun with 16 to 30 year old males squeezing up to 200 at a time in hotels or butlins type places, they worried about their irish culture being wiped out to and diluted, and they should be, look at england? , and i am english, wales aint as bad though but they're doing it there slowly aswell, its only scotland that seems to have escaped the worst of it, but boy thell be in for a shock if they get independence especially if their man they got now is still sitting..
Leo and micheal are ruining the south with taxes and ever not funding nursing homes and its getting very unsafe
😊😢❤🎉 thank you for sharing this moment on national television
Ireland for the Irish
Its 2023 simple boy. Put on a different record.
@@davealex6640 cope.
@@kingofcards9 Thats exactly what you need to do is to cope with the truth. The Republic of Ireland waived there rights to the constitution of N I when they voted in huge numbers for the GFA 25 years ago and the P I R A surrendered to the British principal of consent. So its not for the Irish in fact the British is the least of your worries, From what im led to believe Ireland is for every race apart for the Irish who come last so enjoy the benefits of the E U there. As i say its 2023.
@@davealex6640 lol, as if Britain isn't packed with immigrants.
Half of England is from the middle east.
Your name is probably Muhammad.
@@kingofcards9 Oh im from Northern Ireland mate and theres no comparison between Belfast and Dublin when it comes to immigration. And that will get even worse for Dublin now that the UK has left the EU. And even on that im not on here saying Britain is for the British thats you doing that like a backward simpleton.
We have a very large Irish community in the U K in fact 6 million more than the population of Ireland itself and there very welcome.
Grew up in that hole...nothings changed .
Mr Nice - Howard Marks and Jim McCann - good movie filum. Humorous. Nordle Howard!!! 🇮🇪 🏴 👍
Small, very small faction to focus on
Brexit is to blame. Any sane person could see what damage Brexit would do. The Brexiteers thought they could just leave and nothing would change except, Britain would rule the seas again.
Time for united 🇮🇪 overdue ✌️❤️
🇨🇮🇮🇳💪💪🥰
It’s very cringey these young republicans have never actually lived thru oppression, and they’re literally defying the wishes of both communities across both countries . Self styled terrorised
Brexit's going well I see
Unite Ireland 🇮🇪
Free northern Ireland from its oppressor the republic of Ireland and free Ukraine from its Russian oppressor
Hopefully one day soon..
@@albefuctivino1488even though they've been living there for centuries and are vital to the northern irish economy? This sort of rhetoric is the exact reason why the island was partitioned in the first place. You're unable to understand the concerns of those who oppose your ideas and are unwilling to compromise with them in the hopes of later reconciling them into a united ireland.
If only the power could get shared equally with a outside independent adjudicator, like a welsh assembly sitter, what is so wrong with being labelled Northern??? Its still ireland for christ sake, make up a new flag together and constitution that both ROI and Uk both aproove on aswell as NI inside factions, even clarification from the scots or welsh if need be that all agree on so can be passed, become like a defacto state like Gibraltar...as with them they have so called spanish speakers that allie with brits, and spanish who allies with spain but they all get along.
5:54 well said
if the power vacuum is failing then change the filter ?
The DUP is failing the GFA and everything else where they are not still on top.
The parades never stopped,why are they bringing it up now?
It's the DUP causing all the bother at the moment as far as I can see
Answer seems to be to let Northern Ireland have their own parliament and politicians to decide what they should vote for and how it should be run
4:48 Adams and McGuinness shut Stormont down for 3 years 2017-2020.
Yes because the DUP had been involved in corruption .. you forgot to mention
and for good reason
@@ardri31 over a scandal that SF were also up to their necks in 😂
@@mliam0709 lol youve just made that up
@Liam Maguire now now .. we both know your lying. The DUP were involved in the cash for ash scheme, plain fact you keep forgetting to mention
The police should be removing any 'racist golliwogs' from people instead of wasting their time with riots!🤣😂🤣😂
Brexit opened a can of worms
Agreements have expiry dates
The GFA was always destined to fail. Often hailed as a wonderful achievement A lot of the media fail to recognise that the GFA was sold to unionism and nationalism in completely different ways therefore it was always doomed to fail. Nationalism was told it was a peaceful means to get a united ireland and Unionism thought it meant the union was safe. The recent change by the Biritish Government of the NI act (the legislation that brings the GFA into law) tells unionism that the GFA isnt worth the paper its written on.
The change came when the UK left the EU and threw Ni into uncertainty, many in the unionist communities thought leaving the EU would put a border on the island, they missed calculated and are now throwing a hissy fit.
The GFA upholds the rule of majority. As demographics continue to change the end game is in motion. Once a unionist majority is lost (5 or 10 years) the games is over never to return, it cant , it's impossible. You can't return to a union that doesnt want you
The good Friday agreement only hit the pause button.
Once again the very small dissident Republican groups are highlighted, while Loyalist groups who have caused so much suffering through criminal activities in their own communities, closing local businesses etc. are never mentioned as though they don’t exist.
Dissident republicans are the only true republicans
Enjoyed the subject of the video. I thought the video unfairly only showed extreme Nationalists marching. Since The Protocol, it has been Unionists doing exactly the same things.
When have unionist been throwing petrol bombs on police? 😂😂😂
@Mbal 40 During Protocol protests. Unionists damaged a couple of police vehicles.
Unionists have a good point. That’s the difference.
@@raymondhaskin9449 Got it. One set of rules for you. Another for the rest. Might want to see how well that worked since NI founding.
Ireland do not make the same mistake a US Americans do not forgive your enemys.
If i could help free this nation i would
What's in your head in your head
Zombie Zombie 🎵🎼🎶🎼🎵
Same hate 2000 years later
When you have no acting local government what is going to happen. IMO if people won't take up their seats that should be their loss, the system should work anyway
Derry, Ireland. Ahh, only a few years or some decades.
Why do you care? You're Polish
@@thesaint8400 But the Irish are Catholic
@@ohajohaha And?
It is quite simple. Withdraw state support for any school which does not reflect mixed communities or is religious in nature. Let the pay privately. Redefine all school catchment areas to include areas from both communities. You live at X or Y address? Sorry, but that is your school, else you go private.
Stomping around with flags and balaclavas. So childish.
Kinda like the unending parades on the 12th?
Nutters will always be Nutters ❤🙏💯🇬🇧
Up the
mona bypass
Looking like a bunch of dayz characters 😂
It's just dumb that the British government needs to insert itself into Ireland like why can't it just be one nation as an American with Irish blood I long for the day were Ireland is its own nation free of the British and free to be its own
For as long as there are people that want a united Ireland and there are people who don't, there will never truly be peace.
Well people that don't are plastic Brits
When they're marching they're not fighting both sides..
Níl a fhios ag Brits cad is fearr dóibh féin. 🇮🇪
Sais, dim Prydain. 👍🏴
The IRA are too stupid to be of any great threat.
Is that what Russia said about Ukraine as well
All the yobs with petrol bombs and covered faces looked like children to me, mere kids. I wonder if their parents know what they get up and if they would condemn or condone their behaviour.
Your country created all of what you describe....
No better than Russia.
Poor old paddie always a victim… just like black Tyrone🙄
Yes they do ,the parents sent them to do it
@Alan07 Yeah Ireland should totally throw away it's new found growth and improved QoL to get sanctioned into oblivion by the USA for violating protocol and risk being in another NATO-Russia proxy war (just like Ukraine) just to "stick it" to the Brits (English mostly).
How's the KGB paycheck btw?
@@redpillreset1741grow up and a feckin brain with it.
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Britain to China: Taiwan has the right to be independent country.
Also, Britain: Northern Ireland cannot join Ireland.
Isn't this hypocrisy of the highest order 😂
Northern Ireland can join Ireland when there is a majority in the north that wish to do so. The UK government would love to unite Ireland and save British government the 13 billion quid a year thats needed to keep NI functioning. There is absolutely no comparison to be had with China and Taiwan
But the Good Friday Agreement said NI can join Ireland.
Taiwan would have no rights and freedoms preserved under China, just look at what happened to Hong Kong, and the Taiwanese don't want that.
The Good Friday agreement means we can vote for reunification if given the chance. :)
@@ohajohaha So, you're supporting secessionist movement in China now? And if IN can join Ireland, why the heavy UK armoured vehicles and clash witn Northern Ireland residents. Why not subject IN to a referendum?
@@roising.3221 "if given the chance," Does it mean IN don't have the chance to join Ireland?
GRANDSON OF ULSTERMAN NO MORE BROTHER WARS THEIRS OTHER GROWING THREATS TROJAN STYLE SALUTE MY BROTHERS FROM NZ 🇳🇿🤝🇮🇪🤝🇬🇧
With all the pressures going on at the moment I’m sure they don’t need this! Where’s the positive youth of today gone?
I don't think you'd find them at an IRA march...
3:38 British False Flag attack? Yes I am aware.
A lot of Common sense, let us hope the Politicians in NI were watching.
Manic Street Preachers - If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next 1998
Some of these guys just need to give it up. Join the IRA? That is not the answer. There is no other show in town other than the GFA. In fact this kind of thing will just impede a united Ireland which will come in time. First integrated schooling had to happen and an end to all of these types of demonstrations have to happen.
It's poverty. You won't see any rich Belfast and Dublin businesses men on those parades. They've been left to rot
Whole mess of Northern Ireland is King James I of England fault Ulster Plantation 1609
1:26 lies.
Grown men putting on cosplay costumes parading as toy soldiers.
Fooling people into thinking you've given them something good will only last for so long they will eventually realize they've been duped yet again by religious politics.
Trust no politician
United ireland
Get Russia to send us more weapons
It’s always been the DUP holding everything up and now its the same again DISGRACEFUL
What's good about the good Friday agreement ?
It stopped people murdering each other. If you weren't an uneducated troglodyte you would already know that.
It ended violence and ended hard borders