I haven’t read Louise’s book yet but I’ve seen her interviewed on this subject a few times now and her ideas are interesting and she talks a lot of sense, in my opinion.
The truth is, if you want marriages to work, you need to uplift men, stop making them the enemy persona non grata, they are half of the system, if you break half the system don’t expect marriage to work. Women want to be with a man who they can respect not some broken shell of a human, which sadly is the current state of many men. That is why women seek alternative partners, dissatisfaction. Allow men to be who their wives wish they were. Then they can also be the parents they need to be for their kids.
@@Mevlinous Women don't allow men to be one thing or the other. It is democracy -- the majority of runt bench warmer males born [that USE TO die] and their Machiavellian variants ascendant -- that has `hamstrung/ kneecapped male maturity (thus leading TO feminism).
@@brigittecourson do you honestly believe the current educational/media system is sending messages to help those young men be the best they can be? Look at the portrayal of men in media, absolute buffoons or jokes. If that’s all you see as a kid how can you imagine being any different?
My mother was a young woman around the time when the sexual revolution took place. She always had an independent mind, though she wasn't catholic she was and still a spiritual type of Christian. I grew up listening to her talk about how women attempting to behave like men would always end up in heart ache. She never told me to wait until after marriage to have sex but she always talked about love and commitment and how a long period of courtship is important for me to get to know any men well enough and gauge for his interest and commitment to me. I am so glad I listened to her though it always seemed obvious she was right because I could feel in my body that casual sex had no appeal to me whatsoever. I have an amazing sex life, I've married for 10 years (not without trials) and out sex life is so good partially because we are a good match and partially because I have never equated body count to experience. My husband had sex with a larger than average amount of women which didn't contribute to his sexual repertoire as one night stands don't allow for sexual development nearly as much as being in a committed relationship where you can explore different things. I wish younger people understood that, specially girls, to save themselves so much heart ache. Most guys who constantly have casual sex also feel empty - yes males are more inclined to practice the behaviour of casual sex but it doesn't mean they gain anything positive from it. Louise Perry's book offers a well balanced view of sex and sexuality that young people desperately need to hear. Except for waiting tp have sex until after marriage, I agree with of the points she makes. She's a lucid thinker, with a great authority to speak on the topic given the work she has done in rape centres and having come from a more liberal background it shows how critically she's been able to think about the topic. She is also a powerlifter, which I think is very cool.
@@SOak145 It makes sense to me if she analyzed everything and cocluded that Christians had a point. That's different than Christian "Because Jeeeeesus" or "Go forth and multiply or burn in hell."
People don't understand that "equal" does not mean "the same". “Equal” is about value. ”Same” is about identity. One is a subset of the other. Two $10 bills are both equal and the same. A $10 and two $5's are equal, but they are not the same.
This is the best researched book on this subject I have read for years. I could not put it down. It explodes the myth of women's liberation as proposed by Liberal feminists. I can only praise this book.
The pink male -- much lower in status than the princess he propped up -- to the rescue!... Louise Perry is a crackpot feminist and spoiled princess. .......... The 10 percent of the men modern women date [e.g eth nics] are naturally rough (and as fed up as everyone else -- so double rough). When that type of dame is in post n-ut clarity mode, her princess self -- use to manipulating the push-over pink male, and thus getting away with ANYTHING she wants -- takes umbrage. Hence the reborn ascendency of anti sex feminism (which the dolt pink-male conservative falls for). ... The solution all along was to treat boopsy more roughly. ..."Anti sex feminism"... No! Let fems ride it out [this feminist-induced culture] so dames learn an important lesson. "You teach people how to treat you."
Outstanding discussion! Plenty of food for thought in this one and although this video dates back to July, I do want to drop a comment. Men, especially elite men (the top 15-20%), only have incentives to marry or cohabitate if they truly value the dream of loving a woman and building a family with her while forsaking all others. They also have to be able to look around their environment, the negative experiences of others, and somehow keep believing in the possibility. Current family law, Tinder, and women who want to hold out for their "ultimate dream man" and refuse to commit until their childbearing years are mostly behind them are among the factors that pulverize the procreative dream for men today. The most loving, successful families who I've become acquainted with over the past 40 years all married young- even in their late teens- and began raising kids no later than their mid-20s. These couples did not buy into frivolous sex and unlimited freedom devoid of personal responsibility, nor did they think that they should wait until they were pushing middle age to pursue their dreams of love and family.
100 false religions have 100 false gods- you clearly show by your meaningless statement that you are your own god , just like countless others@@chemophile14
The church women are no different from regular women. They all entitled and hate the modern men. Women today all want 6 feet tall 6 inch in the pants, and 6 figure men! The avg london man is invisible. MGTOW!!
I have listened to a number of Louise's broadcasts recently. As a Trad Catholic I am pleased that she and Mary Harrington are illuminating deeply rooted aspects within our culture. The issue of restraint and chastity is an area seldom discussed. As a former teacher friend once reminded me, 'if we keep telling young people they are animals, we must not be surprised when they behave like animals'. In hoc signo vinces ✝️.
@Tracchofyre Your response covers a lot of ground and in doing so lacks coherence. We are rational animals created in the image and likeness of God. It appears you are unfamiliar with the Magisterial teaching of the Catholic Church on sexuality. Our Catechism is in the public domain. Perhaps invest a little time familiarising yourself with our teaching before making public declarations. In hoc signo vinces ✝️
@@JJ-mu9ev That's incorrect, we are creatures not animals. There are 350,000 Catholic priests worldwide. 1.2% have had allegations made against them. The vast majority of those allegations were offences of pederasty rather than paedophilia. Is it a coincidence that these allegations escalated since the 60s when we permitted homosexuals to enter seminary?
@Tracchofyre in Christian theology, people account for that "beastial" love, you are probably thinking of lust. Would it surprise you that camaraderie and familial piety is also considered to be "beastial" love by Christian theologians? Would it also surprise you that Christian theologians teach it as if these loves are natural and important aspects of humanity. They also teach us not to be subservient by it, to know that there is a time and place for expressions of such loves, and to not be consumed by its rapture.
Good link between oral contraceptives and abortion. Once you uncouple the consequences of sexual relationships from procreation the pregnancies that do results seem more like a "mistake" or poor choice. Abortion then comes in a solution. But it is it a solution or just another side effect of technological "advancement." Not like abortion didn't already exists but this is part of a much larger disharmony between the sexes. The solution of harmony between the sexes I think can be had but within communities that recognize the full dignity the telos of both sexes. And even then, human failure will be a battle ground fought with a deep understanding of virtue and love.
Natural law makes excellent secular arguments and that is what Louise Perry is largely making. Natural law arguments often have an "emperor has no clothes" quality to them. Everyone is just waiting for this argument, or observation of reality, to be made.
Anything that helps men share in childcare and housework is a good thing. Today's attacks on women's autonomy are no different than the historical traditions that limited women.
Excellent conversation. Points I highlighted 1) no system is perfect, there will be exceptions 2) discussion on the first century sexual revolution & emphasis on retraining men, not women 3) we get back to can we do Christian morals without Divine foundation? 4) She wrote an excellent book putting on paper what people are thinking - what reality is. On another subject, Glen is a winsome person, as he was this time, but can he always overcome the optics of the black background, black hair, black mic and darkish t-shirt ( a Pharisaic color scheme, ha ha) (especially in contrast to Louise's light bright room), and a camera angle that makes him look like he is in the Moses' chair, to a person who has opposite views or non-Christian views? I liked the quips like the rake, genitals and more.
I often wonder how you get people to go Christian when they just aren't capable of that belief. Ever read about the aspies not being able to get it? Ever read of religious trauma syndrome?
Jesus will judge based upon the light given to him or her. Jesus is a good and loving God. Many young and those in isolated areas are in the same situation. @@skylinefever
I think she goes beyond the usual clivages of left/right, religious traditions bringing awareness to historical development of technology that transformed women status and giving perspective to that in both positive and negative ways to overall society. I did like the ancient historical ideas. I feel the need to reintroduce sacredness into sexuality.
Noone is stopping you from introducing sacredness into your own sexuality. Just go ahead, hold it as sacred as you like. Different people have different boundaries, though. As long as everything is consentual, I´d prefer not shame anyone, neither for having "too much" or "too little" sex.
@@WiseOwl_1408 How so? I just pointed out, that it is on her how sacred she want to view sex as. Which it is. Whether she find anyone else with her own attitude, is a different story, I realize that. I just don´t care that much, if certain women have difficulties finding men who share their attitude to sex and relationships. If you can not find anyone, that is your problem. It is your own problem if you are a man, so why should it be different for women? I will not take part in some kind of shaming campaign, to pressure individuals to abstain from consentual sex. Even if it lead to the enitre dating market collapsing or whatever. I don´t think men and women ever went together that well, and I don´t think they ever will. What we want from each other is just too different. Nowadays, growing numbers of men are practically without access to the dating market, and another growing category of men is so fed up with women´s bullshit, that they have choosen to check out from said market. These trends will continue anyway, no matter how much you try to push everyone´s attitudes back. Modern women will prefer to be alone, rather than giving the time of day to average men. So I´d say fine, let them have that personal freedom. We can find other things in life, than sex and relationships.
@@lavinder11 I have no sexual opportunities. But the only way most modern women could overcome their hypergamy, is if their lives depended on it. Which I would not want. Dating is dead, get used to it.
That is exactly the Christian solution we are equal in the dignity and all beloved by God -- yet uniquely different. Reading early Christian writers (Augustine) such as about how radically they broke with the Roman Empire on their understanding of the dignify of those with disabilities is good way to see how big the shift was in understanding of this. Each of us in made in the Imago Dei. Start there and a lot of things fall into place. Which does not make life easy.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Guess it depends on what you mean by rights. Viking women were allowed to divorce and choose their husbands. In 18-19th century women had rights to be saved before men, not go to war and be supported by her husband. Women in the 70’s had rights to abortions and flower power.
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She is amazing, admire her) And she was very careful making a pro-abortion argument. It is such a wild idea, still can't make peace with it being raised up AGAIN. Romania's example was half a century ago and we have already forgotten everyrthing. Historical Alzheimer. My grandmother lived in a small town in Ukraine (back in USSR times), abused by her husband and had eight abortions, if not for them, her kids would have been abused, possibly starved (since she was the only caretaker and breadwinner, yes) and she could not have ran eventually together with my mother. Are we so astranged from our past and wildly arrogant to claim that we are an entirly different humanity now these horrible things do not happen anymore?
Hi Yulia. Isn't it likely that the availabiliy of abortion enabled hyour grandmothers abusive husband who would have exercised restraint had he known he would be held accountable for those children. And maybe his abuse was a reaction to abortion and his own guilt at having his own children killed? Women also fail to leave abusive relationships because they feel weakened and have lost their sense of autonomy and dignity. Also we do not offer euthanasia to those who have suffered abuse. We do not suggest that death is the only solution. People who suffer abuse have nothing to prove. And who knows what those eight children would have brought to their mother, their friends, their loved ones their children and all this world? Thank you for sharing this painful and personal history in your family. I think it's so great you disagree with Louise but also can admire her. These are the respectful conversations we need to have . Every blessing
This is where men and women will never agree; men rather children exist, even if abused, destitute, or in poor health, than allow women to abort them to spare them a difficult life. You are not god. It is not up to you to spare children from hard lives, otherwise by that standard no one should be alive in 3rd world countries. In other words, life should not be left to a womans whims or the fashions of the time because your great grandparents were almost assuredly poor
@@MsHello2468 That is the silliest idea I've ever heard. No man is going to refrain from gratifying himself sexually if he's married, no matter what the consequences are. They don't care about consequences, they are less than d0gs.
I would love to see her talk to the Lotus Eaters. This is exactly the kind of stuff Callum and Carl have been saying, how liberals somehow re-discover conservative/traditional values and think its some huge discovery. Also, I point out Roe Vs Wade was overturned because it was wrongfully decided in the first place. The Host explained it as well as a non-American who actually understands law could. I'll give him credit. He didn't include that Roe vs Wade was literally trying to legislate from the bench, they were writing statutes and stuff when that should be done by elected legislatures. Also while I can see your point about Abortion, it USED to be "safe, legal and rare", it literally became "SHOUT YOUR ABORTION", and it literally affected minority communities way more, because Planned Parenthood focused its efforts there, so it was literally racist.
Safe legal and rare is a Democrat and Clinton fable meant to appease the masses. Safe for who? The baby dies Legal for who? They want unrestricted access Rare for when? Whenever someone wants one. It was just a turn of phrase to mask the intent.
We live in a world where any man alive, can watch (a seemingly limitless number of women engaged in ever more extreme physical acts), for absolutely free. But feminism says it’s not a patriarchy, it’s equality. “Whatever you wanna call it love, just keep it up.”
15:20 Just commenting that while more working life is gender-neutral than it was 100 years ago, it's not all gender-neutral. While many people have desk and office / service economy type of jobs, there are still many jobs and industries important to our civilization that are almost exclusively male and indeed rely on male strength. Construction, plumbing, electrician, fire-fighting, fishing, soldiers, etc. I think it can be easy for many in academia or office jobs sometimes to take those things for granted.
Standards in the workplace and university in 2022 are so bad, and it's ideal for cultivating more and more mediocre employees, graduates and students (i.e. less motivation of a healthy nature as well as more unhealthy participation of unsuitable participants (the middle of the normal distribution curve) in more settings)
What’s driving it, that she touches on but only briefly, is capitalism + technology. It’s driving us to be atomized workers who continue to do our little bit in service of the elite. Capitalism doesn’t celebrate nuance, community, etc, just you as an individual consumer
Oh, and by the way just to correct you, European Hunter Gatherers lived in small egalitarian groups that were closely related to one another. Each man got his share of sex. it was only during the Neolithic era onwards (agriculture ) that warlords began to take concubines. DNA tests show that during that time a small number of men fathered most of the children.
Listening to this great conversation gave me the idea for the following William Lane Craig style argument: 1. If God does not exist, men and women are not equal. 2. Men and women are equal. 3. Therefore, God exists.
No, forget that. Waiting until marriage is nice concept, but for the most part people want to fuck. Before medieval times people could get married in a pub in front of at least two witnesses. If course this led to a lot of quickie divorces. That was before the church stepped in and put an end to all that.
It might if people could just not be horny. I love seeing the huge OOW teen pregnancy rates in "Purity culture." Someone shoudl make an an anti-horny device.
25:30 How can you expect men to stay with their families to help raise kids unless there is some sort of marriage structure in place? You say that marriage is a dying system what else do you propose?
They don't propose anything, really. And feminists, as they get older, begin telling younger women that being promiscuous is a bad thing, after they themselves have already been promiscuous, of course. This is to lessen the competition from younger females and to increase the value of their aging cooches through scarcity, thus increasing their ability to manipulate men to their liking.
@@srikantmantravadi An example? You need an example of when abortion is the only option? Seriously? Okay. How about when giving birth will put the mother's life in danger? How about when the baby is going to die shortly after birth in any case? How about when the baby has severe deformities that would make its brief life agonizing? Going to stop listing examples here, because if you actually need examples of this phenomenon, you're either ignorant to the point of farce, or callous to an extent that's truly repulsive.
@@harrietpotter649 that's not an abortion and you know it. The doctor does everything to save the baby. You don't go to a planned parenthood clinic for that. Also a very very rare situation.
@@harrietpotter649 there are plenty of people who can't have children that will take care of God's gifts no matter how they are born. Before you throw epithets about me check your repulsive moral compass thinking dismembering these "hypothetical" suffering children to ease their suffering.
Can the modern transgender movement (and I accept that there are transgender people in much smaller number then the current social contagion of the moment suggests) be seen as an inchoate response to the attempt to erase differences.
More likely the impact of phytoestrogens in the environment. Our children are swimming in a sea of these chemicals. You are right there is a political aspect to it but that is a hierarchy of biology, culture and politics. The earlier in the heirarchy the more important.
@@jonahtwhale1779 I agree! Used to work as a medical communications executive in reproductive health in the 90s and remember reading studies of how phytoestrogrens in the environment were causing penal deformities in newborn boys, PCOS in teenage girls, etc. What a mess we are in!
Transgender people have always existed, to suggest they are some kind of new-fangled, reactive element in society is doubtful. In previous ages they didn’t have the medical interventions to properly transition, but nevertheless they socially transitioned and did their best to survive in a largely binary world. A “third sex” is as old as “two sex”.
I think there is also the issue that, whenever a trend has gone too far in one direction, there is a movement back in the opposite direction, for instance with sex roles that have become overly rigid and polarized. But inevitably, the compensating reverse movement, instead of stopping at a point of balance, goes too far in the reverse direction and itself has to be corrected.
@@jr6200 Totally agree. I did not raise my kids with rigid sex roles. They did not think they had to be a certain way to "qualify" as a man or woman. All good.
Sexual education may need to be partially segregated for periods of a term. I cannot speak to what the female classes would be taught. Males should be taught that it is there job to say 'no'. This is necessary for the current time. When young women are trying to find a partner who will give them the best life possible, and there are very few limits to what is permissible, the options presented to young men, who sexually mature later than woman, and by extension are far more innocent, will be well beyond anything they can reasonably be expected to choose wisely amongst. If men know it is there responsibility to say 'no', then the natural balance between the male active tendency and the female passive tendency is maintained, and the extremely permissive standards can be rolled back.
Marriage is good, good for who? when the lady gets a bit bored or finds herself attracted to someone else, then it's all over and the man is left on the street because she's got the house and the kids and her new bf in the bed and bathroom. and the man is left dealing with all the issues that follow divorce. If women start withholding sex until marriage then a lot of women will go without sex or pay a hooker as men do. The whole idea of staying married and being faithful needs to be addressed. If a man rang my phone and asked to speak to my wife, and she had a nice long chat with him laughing away and then says I'm going to meet him for coffee, he's my friend. I would be pissed off. In the old days, this was seen as unacceptable. These days, when you're sitting across the table with your partner she is on her phone chatting away with a hundred male friends. Friggin ridiculous.
A man, back from divorce court, said the judge told him his wife could sleep with whomever she wanted. He had no say in the matter. Until the divorce laws are changed, there can be no equality, no justice.
@@amandaforrester7636 Except that the notion the feminist cause depends on men restricting themselves has been a total failure in reducing promiscuity, and women leaving husbands. In fact it has exacerbated both of those. Women do not choose to have sex with the men who restrict themselves. Women find in practice that the men who rescrict themselves to be feminine and unattractive, and lead to male incels and sexless marriages. So she may make a case against it, but then she supports the actions that cause them to both occurr. When so many men are found by women to be unattractive, women seek to have sex with the men left who do not restrict themselves, When those men have so many women to mate with, promiscuity results. When men believe that women want to be respected sexually, they repress their desires. As a result, wives are not attracted to their husbands, and end up leaving their husbands in spite of their religious beliefs.
"We" are absolutely able to name the differences between men and women its just that people are afraid to do so because they might get hounded out of their jobs.
Marketing people pushed "Equality" because the masses realized that the bogus "Equality" from diversity hires was bullshit. Marketing wizards needed a new name for the same old bullshit.
I'm not supersized that she turns out to be a christian. Being christian is against my moral values. What I notice about her, is that she doesn't like to talk about what she really wants politically, legally. I suspect she wants laws changed but doesn't want to talk about which ones and how. When people don't want to talk about their own goals and what they want, it makes me VERY suspicious about their intentions. As an example, she says she thinks women shouldn't have sex like men in terms of treating sex as a casual thing. OK. There exists no law, be it state or federal or otherwise anywhere in the US that says that women must treat sex as casual. Same goes for pretty much anywhere. She free to have sex or not have sex in whatever manor she wants. That is a part of feminism. So... what's she fighting for? It sounds like she wants to decide how everyone else will have sex or not have sex. She seems to want to own all people as her personal property to tell everyone else how they will live their lives. Of course, she doesn't actually say that. She doesn't say what she wants. She never says what she actually wants.
@@wawaweewa9159 That isn't a statement telling me what she wants politically. She never says what she is hoping to move towards. She only points to the sexual revolution and says she doesn't like it. Fortunately for her, in the US you can live your life as you wish. No one is forcing her to have sex if she doesn't want to. She is free to wait till marriage or whatever she wants. The "femenist agenda" isn't seeking to control her. The "femenist agenda" isn't trying to force her to have sex before marriage. Of course, I tend to wonder if her agenda includes the freedom for others to live their lives as they wish, or if she intends to control others. Once again, she doesn't say what she wants.
@@TrakeM118 That's not true, no one lives in a vacuum, whatever your neighbor, or worse your community does, affects you too. To claim that it doesn't is to ignore the obvious.
@@newtonia-uo4889 Please be more specific about what I said that you think isn't true. I never said people's actions don't affect one another. Your reply is so vague I have to take wild guesses at what you mean. My best guess is you disagree when I say feminism isn't forcing her to have sex before since it can be difficult to find a man who will marry before sex because of how many women will have sex before marriage. Assuming my wild guess about what you mean is correct, it is still true that she can choose to never have sex before marriage. The men she meets may well make the choice not to date her, but that is their choice. She can choose not to have sex before marriage and the consequence of that choice may be that no one chooses to marry her or date her. This doesn't negate the fact that she can choose what she will and won't do. She can't choose how others respond to her actions, that would violate others ability to choose how they will live. Did I correctly guess what you are trying to say?
On the question of whether we can keep the fruits (virtues and ethics) of Christianity without the roots (the garden-to-city, incarnation and resurrection-centred metaphysics), I say: "Ask the Unitarians". The Unitarians have been trying, quite self-consciously, to do that for a long time: 'Christian values without the mumbo-jumbo', as one prominent public Unitarian put it in the mid-20th century. The consensus seems to be 'No, it doesn't work'. You can free-ride for a while, you can coast slowly downhill, but without the core metaphysical claims at the heart of it there just isn't the power to sustain it. The Unitarian movement was a leading light of what whey called 'practical Christianity' in the 19th and early 20th centuries, but the further they drifted away from the Christian root, the less effective their moral and ethical call became, until by the turn of the 21st century the Unitarian and Unitarian-Universalist movement had basically blended into mainstream boomer liberalism, and had nothing distinctive to contribute.
Yes, the power of great and noble myths! And the one myth that is true is the christian faith. There's a great work detailing the effects of noble mythos and its civilizing effects by C.S lewis
@@wyleecoyotee4252 pee brain answer, culture is a big part of how a community operates, and religion provides fundamental reasons and meaning to a community.
@gumdeo You must approve of all the sexually abused choir boys and all the toxic abusive residential schools, and the misogyny of the industry perpetrated by religion
I believe society is a dynamic thing. I'm against the government telling people how they should live their lives. Whether things are illegal or not they still do them. Just take crime and drugs etc.
Consciousness comes from CHOICE. This woman's state of consciousness and personal autonomy as a female could not even exist without the previous sexual revolution. Sex IS spiritual choice. It IS something to be responsible for, but choice Must remain. Sex as a mystery punishable by death (see the past eras) was not a growth-full option.
Well it would not have been possible with everything that had gone before. Eg women say we have only had the vote for 100 years ok but men as a gender have only had it 120 years. If men didn’t want to give it to women they would still be waiting
@@youtubeyoutube936 Men had legal standing at least. Widows without a rich family went to The Home For Indigent Women. Men with property always had the vote, they were called "Lord" or "Sir" etc.
Of course everyone was a lord or a sir. And of course their female members were as hard done by as a 22 year old chimney sweep. And of course all unmarried women were put into “ homes”. And of course the whole of Europe was England.
unfortunately, as someone who does want to see men and women get married, I must be honest and say that marraige is a bad deal for men... what once made it viable, the social honor of being a father and the deference of the wife is now gone and what is left are the legal bindings that hooks men as the losers from the very start. Worst, we are not going to have the correct conversation about marraige for a LONG LONG TIME given the political milliue we have today.
She is focused on a few specific things, which is fine, but I don't see anything to support or show care for m3n in particular. M3n are only mentioned/included when everyone must do better, or when everyone can benefit from these improvements. Where is the acknowledgement of the cu1tural rot/lack of integrity of many (swathes) of W3stern W0men (towards m3n) ? This is the rot that stands alongside the accursed and b1ased c0urt amd ch1ld supp0rt systems. She seems to exhibit a lot of the typical f3male and sisterh00d self concern, even if it very well articulated and presented. Perhaps her book explains the complaints above well, but I have watched a few Louise Perry interviews, and my issue is the same each time - why should we listen to her and give a damn about w0men, when we don't hear her give a damn about m3n?
Funny. Men and women should do better, but she is speaking from a woman's point of view, not from the pilled community that tends to view every female as horrible.
@@reginasemenenko148 the red pill is a reaction to feminism amd a good one. Louise is a typical tradmisandrist who is mad that women like her are losing.
Feminism has freed men from having to be responsible for women. You are strong and independant now. You fix your own car, house. Defend your own self when the shit hits the fan. We can now just watch.
Im a leftist liberal believing in things like socio economic affirmative action for all public employers and access to all educational establishments, total sexual freedom and limited immigration control BUT Im aware Im in a minority and centrist liberals like LP offer Western civilisation the best path out of the current societal madness we find ourselves in. Good luck!
I am monogamous. I see a set separate long-term three to five, infrequently enough they are able to gauge whether I'm in the same condition as last seen me (We are not prone to only being monogamous because we miss out on friendships with males when are. Friendship with a good close male friend is holy to both the male and the female, except all the males a couple will know will tend to be his more than hers. Any female, tends to either be 'wifey' or 'other woman'. Like a scorpion. We can smell whether a man is attached or single, Not to take the single one as though he was the one available. He is meant to be our friend. When they say that men have a higher infidelity rate, They never tell you that it means that more women are taking men off of women. .. and this hides that not as many men are taking women off of men, which contributes to the global domestic violence rate. No one's saying anything. I thought that men would be doing the math for the two of us for our marrying him. .. and for my not asking a guy out, He thinks that it must be a tradition to ask me. Science mags say a man cannot gauge his girlfriends condition, but he can. And I am able to see if anything is wrong with any of them by the wobble in the others. Pentamournesty makes sense of that when a man is with a woman he be more attractive to other woman, & their not taking as many women off of men. All I write is free., 😭
This is by no means a novel view point. Jordan Peterson has said this over the years, even the wording used is plagiarised from him. Although, he also did say that this would have more gravitas if women began to say it too.
Jordan Peterson said that 15% of men get 85% of women. Is that true? If so Corroleries could be that women do the choosing and that 85% of men compete for15% of women. What Sociological and Psychological Analysis comes out of this Hypothesis?
Since you had turned the comments off, on your video on Ravi zacharias (interview with Lori Anne)…writing here While I heard your podcast about Ravi, which was deep with the parallels drawn, and revealing, I want you to know that the comparison of the particular lady with Tamar, was not quite right (falsehood). The pattern that you see with Amnon, indeed was sufficient to drive the point, it was terrific and that’s some wonderful notes I’ll go back with. However the moment you compared Lori Anne with Tamar, the message started to dilute. For Tamar did those 6 things (that you articulated well) which Lori Anne never did. In fact in the same interview, she speaks of ‘no reason of mine’, which makes her a liar too. She was not a little girl that she would not know that she liked what she was doing. Putting that on her past circumstances do little justice at the age of 40. Well, I’m not here to blame her, but to overlook her side of things is to lend credence to her. Tamar was credible, Lori Anne, like most of us isn’t. Hope you will read this comment with an introspective mind that helps your future talks.
She's wrong on women needing to be more leisurely with their sex lives. Feminism hurts women and men across the board. But the idol that is sex is still worshipped by way of "boys will be boys" and women should behave more like the boys. Nobody should be or encourage permescuity.
For someone with such an enquiring mind I wonder if Louise may end up back in the Christian faith. My guess is that her intellectual journey may take her there...
She already has in a sense. She is secular, but marriage is a western phenomenon thanks to Christianity. The same can be said for all westerners who value family and marriage.
She's a feminist and all feminist analysis must both begin and end at "men are women's oppressors". It's inherently circular and goes absolutely nowhere.
Louise thinks the sexual revolution has been harmful to men as well. You should listen to her other interviews. She talks about what is best for men there
@@wyleecoyotee4252 but shes trying to persuade men as she explicitly states in her books and interviews. If thats her position we dont give a shit about the fact women are losing out. Chilvary is over we dont need to value qomwn more socially anymore.
She is educated, respected and ambious woman, seems like feminism has worked out for her. She is married, have a kid and still working towards her ambitions, I cannot understand why she is suggesting other women to get married early, leave their passions and have kids and stay at home while herself building a career? The hypocrisy is real
Criminalizing abortion, is done on a state to state level. It is not a federal issue here in tge United States. I wish she had talked about the pro-life movement in tge Republic of Ireland and how its sociological trends followed the fatherless Rates as a function of hiw many Irosh young girls had tge awful procedure done in the United Kingdom before Irelamd approved of Abortion.
I am not a subscriber to any religion. However, when the interviewer notes that her positions line up with tenets of Christianity, he uses this fact to embarrass her out of being labeled Christian. It seems more logical to me,at that point, to wonder whether Christianity isn't more right than wrong. An analogy would be if a rabid leftist wrote a book espousing small government, the value of the nuclear family, the necessity for an armed citizenry and home-school and also the FDA can go to Hell, and the interviewer said "Doesn't that make you sound like a conservative?" I think that would be a good point for the author to say, "Actually, yeah, maybe it's time to "question my identity"".
Think about this. 1- $3,000,000 1.5megawatt wind turbines OR 857 10kw generators 7.07x more power same cost before I replace the engine and fuel with a electric motor and a battery. Start like early 1900s cars or a switch! 😘 57000 wind turbines in America. It says we are behind where we should be add this on a global level. Power can be made without nuclear or coal power plants. Green is yellow yet to become green.
I love joking about getting China to at least put some smog filters on their coal. It is funny to see sustainable goods made there because there might be less CO2 emitted. Instead the system emits carcinogens.
No doubt, early Christianity had a profound effect on Western morality, but perhaps that was owed more to human moral evolution than to some kind of genuine supernatural endowment. After all, the God of Christianity was purportedly the same god who didn't seem to have much objection to polygamy and the keeping of concubines in the Old Testament.
Not a bad interview. She seems like a more sane feminist, but of course she lies about a few things. The gender pay gap being a big one. She of course doesn't account for hours worked or traveling or dangerous work places. She also doesn't seem to think the need for strength isn't needed at work places, but the need for strength on certain jobs still hasn't gone away. Still to leave on a positive note I'm glad she points out how terrible abortion is for women even though it is needed.
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As a woman in my 30s with the adult life spent in New Zealand I WISH I HAD COME ACROSS HER IDEAS YOUGER ❤
You werent ready for it back then! You did not resonate with that information and you would have never read it or listened to her back then.
Her voice is very pleasant and soothing.
That's her tactic to get you into believing she isn't a man hating 304. Don't be fooled
right cos its her voice that matters not the content of what she is saying.
@@ktwashere5637 But that's not what was said. Nor was it implied. It might've been what the Op intended, but you're reading something into it.
@@ktwashere5637 the content of what she says is garbage
I haven’t read Louise’s book yet but I’ve seen her interviewed on this subject a few times now and her ideas are interesting and she talks a lot of sense, in my opinion.
The truth is, if you want marriages to work, you need to uplift men, stop making them the enemy persona non grata, they are half of the system, if you break half the system don’t expect marriage to work. Women want to be with a man who they can respect not some broken shell of a human, which sadly is the current state of many men. That is why women seek alternative partners, dissatisfaction. Allow men to be who their wives wish they were. Then they can also be the parents they need to be for their kids.
@@Mevlinous
Women don't allow men to be one thing or the other.
It is democracy -- the majority of runt bench warmer males born [that USE TO die] and their Machiavellian variants ascendant -- that has `hamstrung/ kneecapped male maturity (thus leading TO feminism).
@@Mevlinous I'll "uplift" men when they stop murdering their female partners. Not a second before.
@@Mevlinous Nobody's holding men back except men themselves.
@@brigittecourson do you honestly believe the current educational/media system is sending messages to help those young men be the best they can be? Look at the portrayal of men in media, absolute buffoons or jokes. If that’s all you see as a kid how can you imagine being any different?
My mother was a young woman around the time when the sexual revolution took place. She always had an independent mind, though she wasn't catholic she was and still a spiritual type of Christian. I grew up listening to her talk about how women attempting to behave like men would always end up in heart ache. She never told me to wait until after marriage to have sex but she always talked about love and commitment and how a long period of courtship is important for me to get to know any men well enough and gauge for his interest and commitment to me. I am so glad I listened to her though it always seemed obvious she was right because I could feel in my body that casual sex had no appeal to me whatsoever.
I have an amazing sex life, I've married for 10 years (not without trials) and out sex life is so good partially because we are a good match and partially because I have never equated body count to experience. My husband had sex with a larger than average amount of women which didn't contribute to his sexual repertoire as one night stands don't allow for sexual development nearly as much as being in a committed relationship where you can explore different things. I wish younger people understood that, specially girls, to save themselves so much heart ache. Most guys who constantly have casual sex also feel empty - yes males are more inclined to practice the behaviour of casual sex but it doesn't mean they gain anything positive from it.
Louise Perry's book offers a well balanced view of sex and sexuality that young people desperately need to hear. Except for waiting tp have sex until after marriage, I agree with of the points she makes. She's a lucid thinker, with a great authority to speak on the topic given the work she has done in rape centres and having come from a more liberal background it shows how critically she's been able to think about the topic. She is also a powerlifter, which I think is very cool.
Your husband could very well be cheating on you. Promiscuous men don't change their behavior after marriage.
'Independent mind' but still a Christian lol. Make it make sense.
@@SOak145 what does an “independent mind” mean and look like to you?
@@SOak145 It makes sense to me if she analyzed everything and cocluded that Christians had a point. That's different than Christian "Because Jeeeeesus" or "Go forth and multiply or burn in hell."
People don't understand that "equal" does not mean "the same". “Equal” is about value. ”Same” is about identity. One is a subset of the other. Two $10 bills are both equal and the same. A $10 and two $5's are equal, but they are not the same.
We are not the same.
So men are $10 and women are $5. lmao
@@davidortiz2026 YES
The two $10 bills have different serial numbers so they're not the same in that sense
“They” know the damaging influence that but are pushing it deliberately.
This is the best researched book on this subject I have read for years. I could not put it down. It explodes the myth of women's liberation as proposed by Liberal feminists. I can only praise this book.
The pink male -- much lower in status than the princess he propped up -- to the rescue!...
Louise Perry is a crackpot feminist and spoiled princess.
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The 10 percent of the men modern women date [e.g eth nics] are naturally rough (and as fed up as everyone else -- so double rough).
When that type of dame is in post n-ut clarity mode, her princess self -- use to manipulating the push-over pink male, and thus getting away with ANYTHING she wants -- takes umbrage.
Hence the reborn ascendency of anti sex feminism (which the dolt pink-male conservative falls for).
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The solution all along was to treat boopsy more roughly.
..."Anti sex feminism"...
No! Let fems ride it out [this feminist-induced culture] so dames learn an important lesson.
"You teach people how to treat you."
Outstanding discussion! Plenty of food for thought in this one and although this video dates back to July, I do want to drop a comment. Men, especially elite men (the top 15-20%), only have incentives to marry or cohabitate if they truly value the dream of loving a woman and building a family with her while forsaking all others. They also have to be able to look around their environment, the negative experiences of others, and somehow keep believing in the possibility. Current family law, Tinder, and women who want to hold out for their "ultimate dream man" and refuse to commit until their childbearing years are mostly behind them are among the factors that pulverize the procreative dream for men today. The most loving, successful families who I've become acquainted with over the past 40 years all married young- even in their late teens- and began raising kids no later than their mid-20s. These couples did not buy into frivolous sex and unlimited freedom devoid of personal responsibility, nor did they think that they should wait until they were pushing middle age to pursue their dreams of love and family.
When a religion says these things, people get offensive. But when a person says irrespective of religion, then people appreciate him/her
@@vancouveruzbekistan5350 100 religions have 100 gods 🙏
100 false religions have 100 false gods- you clearly show by your meaningless statement that you are your own god , just like countless others@@chemophile14
Great, thought-provoking conversation! Thank you!
Really pleased to see that Louise has written this and that you have interviewed her too.
So excited about this! Thank you for bringing such an interesting conversation to us
Thank you! Enjoy :)
The church women are no different from regular women. They all entitled and hate the modern men. Women today all want 6 feet tall 6 inch in the pants, and 6 figure men! The avg london man is invisible. MGTOW!!
I have listened to a number of Louise's broadcasts recently. As a Trad Catholic I am pleased that she and Mary Harrington are illuminating deeply rooted aspects within our culture.
The issue of restraint and chastity is an area seldom discussed. As a former teacher friend once reminded me, 'if we keep telling young people they are animals, we must not be surprised when they behave like animals'. In hoc signo vinces ✝️.
@Tracchofyre Your response covers a lot of ground and in doing so lacks coherence. We are rational animals created in the image and likeness of God. It appears you are unfamiliar with the Magisterial teaching of the Catholic Church on sexuality. Our Catechism is in the public domain. Perhaps invest a little time familiarising yourself with our teaching before making public declarations. In hoc signo vinces ✝️
@Tracchofyre For you, it appears the veil is closed.
@Tracchofyre animal indeed, touché.
@@JJ-mu9ev That's incorrect, we are creatures not animals. There are 350,000 Catholic priests worldwide. 1.2% have had allegations made against them. The vast majority of those allegations were offences of pederasty rather than paedophilia. Is it a coincidence that these allegations escalated since the 60s when we permitted homosexuals to enter seminary?
@Tracchofyre in Christian theology, people account for that "beastial" love, you are probably thinking of lust. Would it surprise you that camaraderie and familial piety is also considered to be "beastial" love by Christian theologians? Would it also surprise you that Christian theologians teach it as if these loves are natural and important aspects of humanity. They also teach us not to be subservient by it, to know that there is a time and place for expressions of such loves, and to not be consumed by its rapture.
Beautiful conversation. It was helpful. Thank you. 💚
Thank you - this was a fascinating conversation and I am looking forward to reading her book.
Good link between oral contraceptives and abortion. Once you uncouple the consequences of sexual relationships from procreation the pregnancies that do results seem more like a "mistake" or poor choice. Abortion then comes in a solution. But it is it a solution or just another side effect of technological "advancement." Not like abortion didn't already exists but this is part of a much larger disharmony between the sexes. The solution of harmony between the sexes I think can be had but within communities that recognize the full dignity the telos of both sexes. And even then, human failure will be a battle ground fought with a deep understanding of virtue and love.
Thanks for this, really stimulating to hear Louise's take. Will definitely get her book
Natural law makes excellent secular arguments and that is what Louise Perry is largely making. Natural law arguments often have an "emperor has no clothes" quality to them. Everyone is just waiting for this argument, or observation of reality, to be made.
The Natural Law doctrine comes from religion.
Great interview. I'm extremely impressed with your thoughtful questions.
The sexual revolution benefits me a lot, it has been good for me that there are so many women giving up for nothing and I DONT WANT THAT TO CHANGE
Yeah? Make sure you choose a wife before your 50, otherwise you're dying alone.
Thing is they consider you as worthless as you do them. Good luck with the emptiness that will crawl in for sure sooner or later.
I doubt that it is benefitting you psychologically. Grow up!
@@somethingelse9535 who wants a wife in todays age? Theyre not worthy of marriage
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Great conversation, very illuminating and challenging.
Anything that helps men share in childcare and housework is a good thing. Today's attacks on women's autonomy are no different than the historical traditions that limited women.
You can start his _me too_ countdown clock...
Thank you.
No its not a good thing
Excellent conversation. Points I highlighted 1) no system is perfect, there will be exceptions 2) discussion on the first century sexual revolution & emphasis on retraining men, not women 3) we get back to can we do Christian morals without Divine foundation? 4) She wrote an excellent book putting on paper what people are thinking - what reality is. On another subject, Glen is a winsome person, as he was this time, but can he always overcome the optics of the black background, black hair, black mic and darkish t-shirt ( a Pharisaic color scheme, ha ha) (especially in contrast to Louise's light bright room), and a camera angle that makes him look like he is in the Moses' chair, to a person who has opposite views or non-Christian views? I liked the quips like the rake, genitals and more.
I often wonder how you get people to go Christian when they just aren't capable of that belief. Ever read about the aspies not being able to get it? Ever read of religious trauma syndrome?
Jesus will judge based upon the light given to him or her. Jesus is a good and loving God. Many young and those in isolated areas are in the same situation. @@skylinefever
I think she goes beyond the usual clivages of left/right, religious traditions bringing awareness to historical development of technology that transformed women status and giving perspective to that in both positive and negative ways to overall society. I did like the ancient historical ideas.
I feel the need to reintroduce sacredness into sexuality.
Noone is stopping you from introducing sacredness into your own sexuality. Just go ahead, hold it as sacred as you like. Different people have different boundaries, though. As long as everything is consentual, I´d prefer not shame anyone, neither for having "too much" or "too little" sex.
@@JohanDanielsson8802 sweet summer child. You must be young.
@@WiseOwl_1408 How so? I just pointed out, that it is on her how sacred she want to view sex as. Which it is.
Whether she find anyone else with her own attitude, is a different story, I realize that. I just don´t care that much, if certain women have difficulties finding men who share their attitude to sex and relationships.
If you can not find anyone, that is your problem. It is your own problem if you are a man, so why should it be different for women?
I will not take part in some kind of shaming campaign, to pressure individuals to abstain from consentual sex. Even if it lead to the enitre dating market collapsing or whatever.
I don´t think men and women ever went together that well, and I don´t think they ever will. What we want from each other is just too different.
Nowadays, growing numbers of men are practically without access to the dating market, and another growing category of men is so fed up with women´s bullshit, that they have choosen to check out from said market.
These trends will continue anyway, no matter how much you try to push everyone´s attitudes back. Modern women will prefer to be alone, rather than giving the time of day to average men. So I´d say fine, let them have that personal freedom. We can find other things in life, than sex and relationships.
@@WiseOwl_1408 No, he's just a man who doesn't want his sexual opportunities to decrease.
@@lavinder11 I have no sexual opportunities. But the only way most modern women could overcome their hypergamy, is if their lives depended on it. Which I would not want. Dating is dead, get used to it.
Great conversation.
That is exactly the Christian solution we are equal in the dignity and all beloved by God -- yet uniquely different. Reading early Christian writers (Augustine) such as about how radically they broke with the Roman Empire on their understanding of the dignify of those with disabilities is good way to see how big the shift was in understanding of this. Each of us in made in the Imago Dei. Start there and a lot of things fall into place. Which does not make life easy.
Writers such as who? You seem to have left out something.
The problem with Christianity is that they were the one removing women’s right in the first place. We need to go back to Iron Age, pre-Christianity.
God doesn't even exist
@Modern Lady
I don't think in any point in history women actually had rights until the 1970's
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Guess it depends on what you mean by rights. Viking women were allowed to divorce and choose their husbands.
In 18-19th century women had rights to be saved before men, not go to war and be supported by her husband.
Women in the 70’s had rights to abortions and flower power.
great nuanced interview
She's absolutely brilliant
Very interesting again and important. Thank you!
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She is amazing, admire her) And she was very careful making a pro-abortion argument. It is such a wild idea, still can't make peace with it being raised up AGAIN. Romania's example was half a century ago and we have already forgotten everyrthing. Historical Alzheimer. My grandmother lived in a small town in Ukraine (back in USSR times), abused by her husband and had eight abortions, if not for them, her kids would have been abused, possibly starved (since she was the only caretaker and breadwinner, yes) and she could not have ran eventually together with my mother. Are we so astranged from our past and wildly arrogant to claim that we are an entirly different humanity now these horrible things do not happen anymore?
Hi Yulia. Isn't it likely that the availabiliy of abortion enabled hyour grandmothers abusive husband who would have exercised restraint had he known he would be held accountable for those children. And maybe his abuse was a reaction to abortion and his own guilt at having his own children killed? Women also fail to leave abusive relationships because they feel weakened and have lost their sense of autonomy and dignity. Also we do not offer euthanasia to those who have suffered abuse. We do not suggest that death is the only solution. People who suffer abuse have nothing to prove. And who knows what those eight children would have brought to their mother, their friends, their loved ones their children and all this world? Thank you for sharing this painful and personal history in your family. I think it's so great you disagree with Louise but also can admire her. These are the respectful conversations we need to have . Every blessing
Has anyone ever asked the Romanian children if they would have preferred to be aborted?
This is where men and women will never agree; men rather children exist, even if abused, destitute, or in poor health, than allow women to abort them to spare them a difficult life. You are not god. It is not up to you to spare children from hard lives, otherwise by that standard no one should be alive in 3rd world countries. In other words, life should not be left to a womans whims or the fashions of the time because your great grandparents were almost assuredly poor
Maybe if you have such a positive outlook, go to the mental ward of the hospital, and ask people how grateful they are not to be aborted.
@@MsHello2468 That is the silliest idea I've ever heard. No man is going to refrain from gratifying himself sexually if he's married, no matter what the consequences are. They don't care about consequences, they are less than d0gs.
I would love to see her talk to the Lotus Eaters. This is exactly the kind of stuff Callum and Carl have been saying, how liberals somehow re-discover conservative/traditional values and think its some huge discovery.
Also, I point out Roe Vs Wade was overturned because it was wrongfully decided in the first place. The Host explained it as well as a non-American who actually understands law could. I'll give him credit. He didn't include that Roe vs Wade was literally trying to legislate from the bench, they were writing statutes and stuff when that should be done by elected legislatures.
Also while I can see your point about Abortion, it USED to be "safe, legal and rare", it literally became "SHOUT YOUR ABORTION", and it literally affected minority communities way more, because Planned Parenthood focused its efforts there, so it was literally racist.
Yes, 63 million abortions in the USA since 1973 is anything but "rare".
Safe legal and rare is a Democrat and Clinton fable meant to appease the masses.
Safe for who? The baby dies
Legal for who? They want unrestricted access
Rare for when? Whenever someone wants one.
It was just a turn of phrase to mask the intent.
Yes, I love seeing prolifer say "The dems are the real racists" and barely give a shit about the children that people pop out without a care.
If you'd like more bipoc, you deal with them not being aborted.
She was great on Triggernometry episode.
We live in a world where any man alive, can watch (a seemingly limitless number of women engaged in ever more extreme physical acts), for absolutely free.
But feminism says it’s not a patriarchy, it’s equality.
“Whatever you wanna call it love, just keep it up.”
15:20 Just commenting that while more working life is gender-neutral than it was 100 years ago, it's not all gender-neutral. While many people have desk and office / service economy type of jobs, there are still many jobs and industries important to our civilization that are almost exclusively male and indeed rely on male strength. Construction, plumbing, electrician, fire-fighting, fishing, soldiers, etc. I think it can be easy for many in academia or office jobs sometimes to take those things for granted.
Many are taking such physical jobs for grated, so many tradesmen are going on strike.
Standards in the workplace and university in 2022 are so bad, and it's ideal for cultivating more and more mediocre employees, graduates and students (i.e. less motivation of a healthy nature as well as more unhealthy participation of unsuitable participants (the middle of the normal distribution curve) in more settings)
What’s driving it, that she touches on but only briefly, is capitalism + technology. It’s driving us to be atomized workers who continue to do our little bit in service of the elite. Capitalism doesn’t celebrate nuance, community, etc, just you as an individual consumer
Interesting conversation
Oh, and by the way just to correct you, European Hunter Gatherers lived in small egalitarian groups that were closely related to one another. Each man got his share of sex. it was only during the Neolithic era onwards (agriculture ) that warlords began to take concubines. DNA tests show that during that time a small number of men fathered most of the children.
Simply not true
@@willnill7946Why dont you ask Archeologist and Genetic Scientists if its true.
Listening to this great conversation gave me the idea for the following William Lane Craig style argument:
1. If God does not exist, men and women are not equal.
2. Men and women are equal.
3. Therefore, God exists.
I thought keeping our pants on until marriage (both for men and women) was fine as it was.
No, forget that. Waiting until marriage is nice concept, but for the most part people want to fuck. Before medieval times people could get married in a pub in front of at least two witnesses. If course this led to a lot of quickie divorces. That was before the church stepped in and put an end to all that.
It might if people could just not be horny. I love seeing the huge OOW teen pregnancy rates in "Purity culture."
Someone shoudl make an an anti-horny device.
25:30 How can you expect men to stay with their families to help raise kids unless there is some sort of marriage structure in place? You say that marriage is a dying system what else do you propose?
They don't propose anything, really. And feminists, as they get older, begin telling younger women that being promiscuous is a bad thing, after they themselves have already been promiscuous, of course. This is to lessen the competition from younger females and to increase the value of their aging cooches through scarcity, thus increasing their ability to manipulate men to their liking.
Marriage is not a life goal for many women
@Max Johnson
Wow that's really a conspiracy theory
Rev Matthew Rueger writes an excellent book Sexual Morality in a Christless World
Yes okay... I agree... but what would be 'the solution'?
The living incarnation of the "You consent, she consents, but isn't there someone you forgot to ask?" meme but it's her instead of Jesus.
The fictional character?
@@wyleecoyotee4252 What?
Roe didn't criminalize abortion. Also the criminal in the abortion are the enablers who tell women that abortion is the only option.
Sometimes abortion is the only option.
@@harrietpotter649 please give an example
@@srikantmantravadi An example? You need an example of when abortion is the only option? Seriously? Okay. How about when giving birth will put the mother's life in danger? How about when the baby is going to die shortly after birth in any case? How about when the baby has severe deformities that would make its brief life agonizing?
Going to stop listing examples here, because if you actually need examples of this phenomenon, you're either ignorant to the point of farce, or callous to an extent that's truly repulsive.
@@harrietpotter649 that's not an abortion and you know it. The doctor does everything to save the baby. You don't go to a planned parenthood clinic for that. Also a very very rare situation.
@@harrietpotter649 there are plenty of people who can't have children that will take care of God's gifts no matter how they are born. Before you throw epithets about me check your repulsive moral compass thinking dismembering these "hypothetical" suffering children to ease their suffering.
Can the modern transgender movement (and I accept that there are transgender people in much smaller number then the current social contagion of the moment suggests) be seen as an inchoate response to the attempt to erase differences.
More likely the impact of phytoestrogens in the environment. Our children are swimming in a sea of these chemicals. You are right there is a political aspect to it but that is a hierarchy of biology, culture and politics. The earlier in the heirarchy the more important.
@@jonahtwhale1779 I agree! Used to work as a medical communications executive in reproductive health in the 90s and remember reading studies of how phytoestrogrens in the environment were causing penal deformities in newborn boys, PCOS in teenage girls, etc. What a mess we are in!
Transgender people have always existed, to suggest they are some kind of new-fangled, reactive element in society is doubtful. In previous ages they didn’t have the medical interventions to properly transition, but nevertheless they socially transitioned and did their best to survive in a largely binary world. A “third sex” is as old as “two sex”.
I think there is also the issue that, whenever a trend has gone too far in one direction, there is a movement back in the opposite direction, for instance with sex roles that have become overly rigid and polarized. But inevitably, the compensating reverse movement, instead of stopping at a point of balance, goes too far in the reverse direction and itself has to be corrected.
@@jr6200 Totally agree. I did not raise my kids with rigid sex roles. They did not think they had to be a certain way to "qualify" as a man or woman. All good.
All I can say is its about damn time
I find her voice very soothing & calm
Fantastic book
both educated but the stupid number of times the word "like" is used is so sad for the english language.
Contrast is the mother of clarity. Oz Guinness?
Sexual education may need to be partially segregated for periods of a term. I cannot speak to what the female classes would be taught. Males should be taught that it is there job to say 'no'. This is necessary for the current time. When young women are trying to find a partner who will give them the best life possible, and there are very few limits to what is permissible, the options presented to young men, who sexually mature later than woman, and by extension are far more innocent, will be well beyond anything they can reasonably be expected to choose wisely amongst. If men know it is there responsibility to say 'no', then the natural balance between the male active tendency and the female passive tendency is maintained, and the extremely permissive standards can be rolled back.
Thomas Sowell on the silliness of the modern conception of slavery!
Marriage is good, good for who? when the lady gets a bit bored or finds herself attracted to someone else, then it's all over and the man is left on the street because she's got the house and the kids and her new bf in the bed and bathroom. and the man is left dealing with all the issues that follow divorce. If women start withholding sex until marriage then a lot of women will go without sex or pay a hooker as men do. The whole idea of staying married and being faithful needs to be addressed. If a man rang my phone and asked to speak to my wife, and she had a nice long chat with him laughing away and then says I'm going to meet him for coffee, he's my friend. I would be pissed off. In the old days, this was seen as unacceptable. These days, when you're sitting across the table with your partner she is on her phone chatting away with a hundred male friends. Friggin ridiculous.
A man, back from divorce court, said the judge told him his wife could sleep with whomever she wanted. He had no say in the matter. Until the divorce laws are changed, there can be no equality, no justice.
@@interestingtimes6242 yep, or couples just have open relationships and good luck with that.
She's arguing AGAINST promiscuity, including leaving husbands for no reason
@@amandaforrester7636 Every woman that leaves her husband has a "good" reason. Do you think women do what they want when they want?
@@amandaforrester7636 Except that the notion the feminist cause depends on men restricting themselves has been a total failure in reducing promiscuity, and women leaving husbands. In fact it has exacerbated both of those. Women do not choose to have sex with the men who restrict themselves. Women find in practice that the men who rescrict themselves to be feminine and unattractive, and lead to male incels and sexless marriages. So she may make a case against it, but then she supports the actions that cause them to both occurr. When so many men are found by women to be unattractive, women seek to have sex with the men left who do not restrict themselves, When those men have so many women to mate with, promiscuity results. When men believe that women want to be respected sexually, they repress their desires. As a result, wives are not attracted to their husbands, and end up leaving their husbands in spite of their religious beliefs.
"We" are absolutely able to name the differences between men and women its just that people are afraid to do so because they might get hounded out of their jobs.
In 2022, if you are a worker who also rejects “woke“ identity politics, then the sane position is socially conservative and fiscally progressive.
That was always the sane position; instead we now have "double liberalism" which is the worst of all worlds.
Libertarianism is secretly popular.
Well said
@@skylinefever no its not and thank god for that
All bc of they've been pushing for the Equity across the board which is insane
Marketing people pushed "Equality" because the masses realized that the bogus "Equality" from diversity hires was bullshit. Marketing wizards needed a new name for the same old bullshit.
Truth is truth.
What's Louise Perry's take on Otto Weininger?
Minute 13: Yes Glen!
We all should be treated equally but we are not equal.
you're "should"ing
Thats dumb
that feeling when you realise feminism doesn't work out so you become Third Position
I'm not supersized that she turns out to be a christian. Being christian is against my moral values. What I notice about her, is that she doesn't like to talk about what she really wants politically, legally. I suspect she wants laws changed but doesn't want to talk about which ones and how. When people don't want to talk about their own goals and what they want, it makes me VERY suspicious about their intentions. As an example, she says she thinks women shouldn't have sex like men in terms of treating sex as a casual thing. OK. There exists no law, be it state or federal or otherwise anywhere in the US that says that women must treat sex as casual. Same goes for pretty much anywhere. She free to have sex or not have sex in whatever manor she wants. That is a part of feminism. So... what's she fighting for? It sounds like she wants to decide how everyone else will have sex or not have sex. She seems to want to own all people as her personal property to tell everyone else how they will live their lives. Of course, she doesn't actually say that. She doesn't say what she wants. She never says what she actually wants.
she doesnt support the liberal feminist degeneracy
@@wawaweewa9159 That isn't a statement telling me what she wants politically. She never says what she is hoping to move towards. She only points to the sexual revolution and says she doesn't like it. Fortunately for her, in the US you can live your life as you wish. No one is forcing her to have sex if she doesn't want to. She is free to wait till marriage or whatever she wants. The "femenist agenda" isn't seeking to control her. The "femenist agenda" isn't trying to force her to have sex before marriage. Of course, I tend to wonder if her agenda includes the freedom for others to live their lives as they wish, or if she intends to control others. Once again, she doesn't say what she wants.
@@TrakeM118 That's not true, no one lives in a vacuum, whatever your neighbor, or worse your community does, affects you too. To claim that it doesn't is to ignore the obvious.
@@newtonia-uo4889 Please be more specific about what I said that you think isn't true. I never said people's actions don't affect one another.
Your reply is so vague I have to take wild guesses at what you mean. My best guess is you disagree when I say feminism isn't forcing her to have sex before since it can be difficult to find a man who will marry before sex because of how many women will have sex before marriage. Assuming my wild guess about what you mean is correct, it is still true that she can choose to never have sex before marriage. The men she meets may well make the choice not to date her, but that is their choice. She can choose not to have sex before marriage and the consequence of that choice may be that no one chooses to marry her or date her. This doesn't negate the fact that she can choose what she will and won't do. She can't choose how others respond to her actions, that would violate others ability to choose how they will live.
Did I correctly guess what you are trying to say?
without diving in another of her arguments or monogamy and such, being single is best and above all
The human being is a social one.
Been wondering what happened to Camille Paglia she's disappeared and we need her
Liberate yourselves from sexually lawless and neurotic behavior.
Not the feminist message.
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That's very nice. I do like this factual reasoning. Data Scientist??? Or just Matroid Theorist?
On the question of whether we can keep the fruits (virtues and ethics) of Christianity without the roots (the garden-to-city, incarnation and resurrection-centred metaphysics), I say: "Ask the Unitarians". The Unitarians have been trying, quite self-consciously, to do that for a long time: 'Christian values without the mumbo-jumbo', as one prominent public Unitarian put it in the mid-20th century. The consensus seems to be 'No, it doesn't work'. You can free-ride for a while, you can coast slowly downhill, but without the core metaphysical claims at the heart of it there just isn't the power to sustain it. The Unitarian movement was a leading light of what whey called 'practical Christianity' in the 19th and early 20th centuries, but the further they drifted away from the Christian root, the less effective their moral and ethical call became, until by the turn of the 21st century the Unitarian and Unitarian-Universalist movement had basically blended into mainstream boomer liberalism, and had nothing distinctive to contribute.
Yes, the power of great and noble myths! And the one myth that is true is the christian faith. There's a great work detailing the effects of noble mythos and its civilizing effects by C.S lewis
Get rid of all religion. It's toxic and corrupt on all levels
@@wyleecoyotee4252 pee brain answer, culture is a big part of how a community operates, and religion provides fundamental reasons and meaning to a community.
Without God, there is no consistent morality, only individual preferences.
@gumdeo
You must approve of all the sexually abused choir boys and all the toxic abusive residential schools, and the misogyny of the industry perpetrated by religion
Good
I believe society is a dynamic thing. I'm against the government telling people how they should live their lives. Whether things are illegal or not they still do them. Just take crime and drugs etc.
Let’s decriminalize crime and then we won’t have any.
@@JohnnyArtPavlou I sense some sarcasm haha.
Government makes laws. And the legal system is shaping society.
It's almost like the Bible was right about monogamy. Who knew? 🙃
Consciousness comes from CHOICE. This woman's state of consciousness and personal autonomy as a female could not even exist without the previous sexual revolution. Sex IS spiritual choice. It IS something to be responsible for, but choice Must remain. Sex as a mystery punishable by death (see the past eras) was not a growth-full option.
Well it would not have been possible with everything that had gone before. Eg women say we have only had the vote for 100 years ok but men as a gender have only had it 120 years. If men didn’t want to give it to women they would still be waiting
@@youtubeyoutube936 Men had legal standing at least. Widows without a rich family went to The Home For Indigent Women. Men with property always had the vote, they were called "Lord" or "Sir" etc.
Of course everyone was a lord or a sir. And of course their female members were as hard done by as a 22 year old chimney sweep. And of course all unmarried women were put into “ homes”. And of course the whole of Europe was England.
If you have a family what is your motivation for your work
Can someone sell marriage to me? Convince me that the pros outweigh the cons?
Don't get married.
unfortunately, as someone who does want to see men and women get married, I must be honest and say that marraige is a bad deal for men... what once made it viable, the social honor of being a father and the deference of the wife is now gone and what is left are the legal bindings that hooks men as the losers from the very start.
Worst, we are not going to have the correct conversation about marraige for a LONG LONG TIME given the political milliue we have today.
She is focused on a few specific things, which is fine, but I don't see anything to support or show care for m3n in particular.
M3n are only mentioned/included when everyone must do better, or when everyone can benefit from these improvements.
Where is the acknowledgement of the cu1tural rot/lack of integrity of many (swathes) of W3stern W0men (towards m3n) ?
This is the rot that stands alongside the accursed and b1ased c0urt amd ch1ld supp0rt systems.
She seems to exhibit a lot of the typical f3male and sisterh00d self concern, even if it very well articulated and presented.
Perhaps her book explains the complaints above well, but I have watched a few Louise Perry interviews, and my issue is the same each time - why should we listen to her and give a damn about w0men, when we don't hear her give a damn about m3n?
Funny. Men and women should do better, but she is speaking from a woman's point of view, not from the pilled community that tends to view every female as horrible.
@@reginasemenenko148 She can acknowledge what m3n have suffered, from her w0man's point of view.
That would be part of her doing better.
@@MGP2210 I'll have to get her book.
@@MGP2210
Men only have 'suffered' since the 1960's. Prior to that, for centuries, women suffered
@@reginasemenenko148 the red pill is a reaction to feminism amd a good one. Louise is a typical tradmisandrist who is mad that women like her are losing.
Feminism has freed men from having to be responsible for women. You are strong and independant now. You fix your own car, house. Defend your own self when the shit hits the fan. We can now just watch.
Yeah, but how boring is that? ha
We feminists do all that 👍
Watch all you want
If you need to have women needing you to do things for them to feel purposeful, you need to reorient your life. Don't stand there watching us. Creep.
Lol. My husband doesn't hate women, but he's old school.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 ohh yes, thanks to all the women fighting in Ukraine against Russia. Really, thanks a lot to them.
Walking in an increasingly Mental and Soulless Society is the Fundamental Reason for these Flat Earth Egalitarian Creations
Im a leftist liberal believing in things like socio economic affirmative action for all public employers and access to all educational establishments, total sexual freedom and limited immigration control BUT Im aware Im in a minority and centrist liberals like LP offer Western civilisation the best path out of the current societal madness we find ourselves in. Good luck!
You are why the world is crap.
Huh. He’s from Australia yet he sounds 100% British
Aussie here.
1/3 Australians have a parent from overseas. The most are from the UK, then the New Zealand.
By British, do you mean English? Even that’s a lot of accents just within England. Sounds Australian anyway!
Who is the interviewer? He helps create a thoughtful conversation with a smart intelligent nuanced woman!
I am monogamous. I see a set separate long-term three to five, infrequently enough they are able to gauge whether I'm in the same condition as last seen me (We are not prone to only being monogamous because we miss out on friendships with males when are. Friendship with a good close male friend is holy to both the male and the female, except all the males a couple will know will tend to be his more than hers. Any female, tends to either be 'wifey' or 'other woman'. Like a scorpion. We can smell whether a man is attached or single, Not to take the single one as though he was the one available. He is meant to be our friend.
When they say that men have a higher infidelity rate, They never tell you that it means that more women are taking men off of women. .. and this hides that not as many men are taking women off of men, which contributes to the global domestic violence rate. No one's saying anything. I thought that men would be doing the math for the two of us for our marrying him. .. and for my not asking a guy out, He thinks that it must be a tradition to ask me. Science mags say a man cannot gauge his girlfriends condition, but he can. And I am able to see if anything is wrong with any of them by the wobble in the others. Pentamournesty makes sense of that when a man is with a woman he be more attractive to other woman, & their not taking as many women off of men.
All I write is free., 😭
I like it when women boss me about but not my my mum
This is by no means a novel view point. Jordan Peterson has said this over the years, even the wording used is plagiarised from him. Although, he also did say that this would have more gravitas if women began to say it too.
She basically copy pasted everything that Jordan Peterson has been saying for the last past five years. Just saying...
Er no.
Jordan Peterson said that 15% of men get 85% of women. Is that true? If so Corroleries could be that women do the choosing and that 85% of men compete for15% of women. What Sociological and Psychological Analysis comes out of this Hypothesis?
Its not true and nobody can measure that shit realistically
Since you had turned the comments off, on your video on Ravi zacharias (interview with Lori Anne)…writing here
While I heard your podcast about Ravi, which was deep with the parallels drawn, and revealing, I want you to know that the comparison of the particular lady with Tamar, was not quite right (falsehood).
The pattern that you see with Amnon, indeed was sufficient to drive the point, it was terrific and that’s some wonderful notes I’ll go back with.
However the moment you compared Lori Anne with Tamar, the message started to dilute. For Tamar did those 6 things (that you articulated well) which Lori Anne never did. In fact in the same interview, she speaks of ‘no reason of mine’, which makes her a liar too. She was not a little girl that she would not know that she liked what she was doing. Putting that on her past circumstances do little justice at the age of 40.
Well, I’m not here to blame her, but to overlook her side of things is to lend credence to her. Tamar was credible, Lori Anne, like most of us isn’t.
Hope you will read this comment with an introspective mind that helps your future talks.
She's wrong on women needing to be more leisurely with their sex lives.
Feminism hurts women and men across the board. But the idol that is sex is still worshipped by way of "boys will be boys" and women should behave more like the boys.
Nobody should be or encourage permescuity.
For someone with such an enquiring mind I wonder if Louise may end up back in the Christian faith. My guess is that her intellectual journey may take her there...
She already has in a sense. She is secular, but marriage is a western phenomenon thanks to Christianity. The same can be said for all westerners who value family and marriage.
@@stevenseagull7.7bviews47 So why do so many easterners value family and marriage? Why even in comm unist China does it matter?
All about what's best for women, no consideration of what's best for men
She's a feminist and all feminist analysis must both begin and end at "men are women's oppressors". It's inherently circular and goes absolutely nowhere.
Louise thinks the sexual revolution has been harmful to men as well. You should listen to her other interviews. She talks about what is best for men there
You have the manosphere for that.
Her topics and discussion are hers, what's important to her, not you men.
@@uponthebay she says that persuade men to go back to worshipping women via chilvary.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 but shes trying to persuade men as she explicitly states in her books and interviews. If thats her position we dont give a shit about the fact women are losing out. Chilvary is over we dont need to value qomwn more socially anymore.
She is educated, respected and ambious woman, seems like feminism has worked out for her.
She is married, have a kid and still working towards her ambitions, I cannot understand why she is suggesting other women to get married early, leave their passions and have kids and stay at home while herself building a career? The hypocrisy is real
Yea sorry her solution is men need to step up. Sorry no more
Criminalizing abortion, is done on a state to state level. It is not a federal issue here in tge United States. I wish she had talked about the pro-life movement in tge Republic of Ireland and how its sociological trends followed the fatherless Rates as a function of hiw many Irosh young girls had tge awful procedure done in the United Kingdom before Irelamd approved of Abortion.
Great, I guess I will help someone get to the neighboring state.
Pro life until it is born then throw it to the dogs. Hypocrites brood of vipers! How can any of you escape damnation?
To be more precise, they are pro-birth. Nothing beyond that .
This is what I always talk about with abortion bans. I always ask how many babies will simply end up like the girls of mainland China.
George Carlin said you need live birth to make dead soldiers.
I am not a subscriber to any religion. However, when the interviewer notes that her positions line up with tenets of Christianity, he uses this fact to embarrass her out of being labeled Christian. It seems more logical to me,at that point, to wonder whether Christianity isn't more right than wrong. An analogy would be if a rabid leftist wrote a book espousing small government, the value of the nuclear family, the necessity for an armed citizenry and home-school and also the FDA can go to Hell, and the interviewer said "Doesn't that make you sound like a conservative?" I think that would be a good point for the author to say, "Actually, yeah, maybe it's time to "question my identity"".
The interviewer is a Anglican pastor. I think he was just being cheeky.
It is more right than wrong. Leaving it behind was the worst decision we ever made.
That is why libertarian exists. The left/right argument is a highly flawed one.
Think about this. 1- $3,000,000 1.5megawatt wind turbines OR
857 10kw generators
7.07x more power same cost before I replace the engine and fuel with a electric motor and a battery.
Start like early 1900s cars or a switch! 😘 57000 wind turbines in America. It says we are behind where we should be add this on a global level. Power can be made without nuclear or coal power plants. Green is yellow yet to become green.
I love joking about getting China to at least put some smog filters on their coal. It is funny to see sustainable goods made there because there might be less CO2 emitted. Instead the system emits carcinogens.
A bit late to come to that conclusion, but ok....
the first ting i notice is that vampires are real .
the second thing i notice is the left .
Gasp! Christians could be right! Jesus DID raise from the dead
No doubt, early Christianity had a profound effect on Western morality, but perhaps that was owed more to human moral evolution than to some kind of genuine supernatural endowment. After all, the God of Christianity was purportedly the same god who didn't seem to have much objection to polygamy and the keeping of concubines in the Old Testament.
Not a bad interview. She seems like a more sane feminist, but of course she lies about a few things. The gender pay gap being a big one. She of course doesn't account for hours worked or traveling or dangerous work places. She also doesn't seem to think the need for strength isn't needed at work places, but the need for strength on certain jobs still hasn't gone away.
Still to leave on a positive note I'm glad she points out how terrible abortion is for women even though it is needed.
That's ridiculous. Salaried work doesn't depend on hours worked.