This interview was the most honest shit I’ve ever heard from a former gang member talking about how can a grown man follow anything started by a 13-year-old. Enough said on that part
I mean it don't matter the age of the man when he started it most of the original organizations we're started by 13 year olds. They're not 13 now so what's the point. Ion know bout the gangs but I know about the Nation I'm in Chief was 13 and was whooping the older boys that was trying to push over on him.thd foundation of this nation was laid out by a 13 year old but it was for good.
Under a different environment, this man would have been a Professional in the Corporate World or an Educator. He was truly a victim of his environment. These gangs are aiding and abetting the demise of their own people, destroying potential.
Big skip seems like tha guy back in tha day that had all the new bikes an toys,video games an u could go ova to his house and play all day ..until momma came home😀
My momma from south central, 41st and Hoover. Even though we were in Alaska she had ALL that LA in her. She was a square too but she didn’t play when it came to us defending ourselves.
@@hustlengrind8833 How is it out there? Please tell me more about it, I very curious about the life style? Is it safe for people of color? Please expand on it. BTW my step dad is from South Central but I grew up in Brooklyn NY. I miss my family in LA. Some of the best & most loyal people I know.
@@BrooklynsFinest34 it’s actually a lovely place. It does get cold and I mean some cold you ain’t never felt before. If you can last a winter you can live there forever. It’s pretty much nothing to see a moose or bear just out and about wondering around. People are very nice for the most part, I guess because there’s really nowhere else to go. It’s expensive but you’ll get paid pretty good, plus the yearly dividend check for living there.
Growing up in LA in those times, unfortunately u had to grow up tuff n be violent if need be...with the gangs all around that's how it was smh...it is what it is...can't blame momma for tryna make her kid tuff
@@Urmak85 rewatch video he literally said mom “kept him from his father AND made him violent”. I’m 42yo raised and still live on the south side of Chicago I understand gangs and those times. Went through it myself. Having a father would have helped A LOT. Hence me pointing out his mom keeping him from dad. That’s not right is all I’m saying.
He seems to have vivid accurate memories to learning from the mentally of these specific era’s and learning the pros & cons of joining gangs to growing from them
I love when this guy talks he is very analytical and intelligent very calm and articulate I laughed when he said they all would go inside when tookie came around tookie was like a big swole Freddy Krueger in the hood 🤣 Everybody was terrified of him
My pops used to fight alot too in the early 90s got shot 9 times after beating up two niggas for jumping his brother when they left the club he got hit 9 and survived
@@user-lb9ee2ur1k so is that why it's so childish to gangbang? That's crazy I never knew a kid started it but makes sense the principles they stand on. Usually juvenile in true reality
@@sellyboy727 yes exactly you have 40-50 year olds now acting like children. Look at wack100 arguing with those bloods on clubhouse. Perfect example of kids in an adult body
@@sellyboy727 Bro do some history on it man. These were youths when the crips were started etc. A lot of them banged for a years then grew out of it. Went to the military, got jobs, got married etc.
I was the youngest of 3. New Orleans. 90s. My mama, cousins, brother, sister, uncles, aunt's, they Ain play that getting beat up shit. Well u can get beat up, but not without fighting back. We fought like a mf. I was skinny as hell. We fought but we didn't HATE eachother.
Those first 2:20 seconds is how mother's today needs to be raising their CHILDREN. He kept it 💯 about his dad. Not brought up the negativity, lack of knowledge of that his dad was also a PERSON. "Even tho I seen him 5 times a year, he was still my dad"💪🏽💯
@@jonjones7137 trust me I feel that... I don't mean to sound like Im giving him credit but hate him or love him his name will live longer than he did and will be spoken by many!! Can you say that about your name?? I know I can't!!
You talking about mom locking the door , brought back memories from my childhood. I was an only child and in the projects of Bmore. My grandma did the same thing to me. I haven't had a problem since then. Thanks grandma!
Skip is the homie, Gotten a chance to tap in with him onetime and he really is about the youth and has great ideas unfortunately not many of his peers carry the same focus or energy.
Salute to big skip...i stay on his channel..i first saw skip on that slippin 10 years with the bloods doc bac in the 90s...sht blew me away when i got older and heard skip say that doc was script..one of the best doc
@1:37 that's crazy his moms didn't want to be around his dad but dude was an educated black man. I thought he would be a brother out there running these streets. Wow some black women really think they can raise three boys by their selves smh wow
Interesting O.G had a Physician Assistant as a father but his father was mostly absent. I’d imagine if his father was present his outcome would be a lot different
Why in the Black community it’s always the fathers fault when a young man turns to the streets.I grew up in one of the worst housing projects in America and never thought about getting involved in the streets and me and my brother was raised by a single mother. As a 54 year old African American man I will never let me not having a father in my house hold be the blame for the way I carried myself as a youth. As well as a grown man.And just to add one of my homeboys is the owner of TDE.
because it's the truth, just like if a young man is successful without his dad he is viewed as a "success". Studies have shown for years the likelihood of a child's success is greater in 2 parent homes. This is not the case for our community as a whole because we've been broken since we got here. As someone born and raised in South Central L.A. I can attest to what Skip is talking about because it's our reality out here.
@@bossknight3238 I wouldn't say necessarily that we've "broken" since we got here. I'll say we've have problems at the foundation of our cultural identity. The black family was really at it strongest during Jim Crow. But it pretty much stayed together up until social integration. silent Generation black American leadership sold out what worked and was industrious about the culture black people were able to cultivate.
Man if you actually sit here and truly believe that a child with two parents doesnt have a greater chance at success becuz yo ass was somehow was an exception to the rule then you arent living in reality. The fact is, especially as black people we need our children raised in two parent households. We have little to no room for error. We need to do things as right as possible. Shout out to yo momma or whatever but stop acting like a positive male role model for a young nigga in the hood wont do wonders for his development.
It's just a cliché bruh! One of my buddies has killed at least two people, he grew up with both parents in the house AND his pop was a preacher! It's a personal thing when we choose a different way, not sure if it's rebellion or what but it does have a little to do with the dad not being thee IF your mother is ghetto or is hardly there because she works. You'll find time to do things with the outside that you wouldn't dare do when she's home! Now that I think about my other old head buddy he's killed at least two people(went to prison for one) and he was raised with both parents, plus 6 siblings. His shit is just in his blood. He cool and I trust him with my life but......
Think brother... think....why would a KID run in the house... because of a GROWN MAN coming down the street??? I doubt most are catching the point because he is R.I.P and extremely hood famous...do ur on math brother it's obvious. Peace 2 u
@@lifestraight where I'm from....when we were told 2 come in the house because of a GROWN ass man is coming and we were kids...it's wasn't because he was a gang member or a street fighter. U have heard of a grown man that's hood famous fighting kids ? NO!!! I'm sure u heard other things that aren't favorable to talk about that grown men may do to little kid's. I'm sure ur intelligent enough too figure that part out
Skip remind s me if my friend fred step dad that lived in dallas tx on centerville road ,he was a real guy just like skip he use to give me and fred lecture s about building at a young age and he told us to work for ourselves I miss fred the older guy like skip there mom was cool and his sister
I remember I had a fight outside before they had opened the doors to let us in the school in 6th grade n got suspended…My sperm donor told me I should’ve went n told the principal while my mama said I did the right thing….I stopped respecting my sperm donor after that
All I knew is when ur a kid,and there is a grown man in the neighborhood...IM SPEAKING FROM WHERE IM FROM...u ain't running in the house because of fear of this grown ass man may hit u....it's another reason why u would...I will let u guys figure that out. Sum of us may not like 2 be REAL when it comes 2 HOOD or CELEBRITY legends...but I love what Skip is saying.... peace 2 him and everyone on the post and no disrespect 2 anyone. But there are certain individuals that are street legends and information about sum of there behavior IS LEFT out from the general public.4 a reason!🤔
If the Crips or Bloods were more of a mafia style organization with real leaders, structure, co leaders, presidents and treasurers it would be more understandable being an adult still being involved.
I’m not a gang member or gang banger but if someone puts hands on me I’m going to defend myself once you put hands on me there’s nothing to talk about whatever the consequences are I’ll deal with it I’m not looking for trouble or starting trouble and I know how to reason as a man but once it gets physical there is nothing to talk about
This interview was the most honest shit I’ve ever heard from a former gang member talking about how can a grown man follow anything started by a 13-year-old. Enough said on that part
Never heard it in that form and it make the most sense
Real talk Skip.
Watch Charleston white. He speaks the truth
@@kingloaf truth with division. He's whole "movement" is counter productive. He's a clown.
I mean it don't matter the age of the man when he started it most of the original organizations we're started by 13 year olds. They're not 13 now so what's the point. Ion know bout the gangs but I know about the Nation I'm in Chief was 13 and was whooping the older boys that was trying to push over on him.thd foundation of this nation was laid out by a 13 year old but it was for good.
Under a different environment, this man would have been a Professional in the Corporate World or an Educator. He was truly a victim of his environment. These gangs are aiding and abetting the demise of their own people, destroying potential.
Skipp is the man... I appreciate your help with 2nd Call classes. May God continue to bless you and the program.
Big skip seems like tha guy back in tha day that had all the new bikes an toys,video games an u could go ova to his house and play all day ..until momma came home😀
Yes lmao 🤣
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Don’t let da smooth taste fool ya skip was a mf bacc in da day frfr🙄
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Always that one dude in the hood 😂😂😂
Humble, poised, honest, stand up and always showing humility!!! The living definition of a real one!!!!
Facts! Skip is a real reputable OG.
This dude official. He been in damn near every blood documentary there was.
FINALLY!!! Finally a Real Man talking real talk.
My momma from south central, 41st and Hoover. Even though we were in Alaska she had ALL that LA in her. She was a square too but she didn’t play when it came to us defending ourselves.
Shit I heard it's Black's in Alaska now, ?
Right on fam,
Much love from South Central L.A
59th & Western*
@@kaykaywarlord6733 you’d be shocked at how many of us are up there. Much love!
Man all the OG from 41st had a certain. 🔥 bout there self
@@hustlengrind8833 How is it out there? Please tell me more about it, I very curious about the life style? Is it safe for people of color? Please expand on it. BTW my step dad is from South Central but I grew up in Brooklyn NY. I miss my family in LA. Some of the best & most loyal people I know.
@@BrooklynsFinest34 it’s actually a lovely place. It does get cold and I mean some cold you ain’t never felt before. If you can last a winter you can live there forever. It’s pretty much nothing to see a moose or bear just out and about wondering around. People are very nice for the most part, I guess because there’s really nowhere else to go. It’s expensive but you’ll get paid pretty good, plus the yearly dividend check for living there.
To have gone threw all that he has gone threw SKIPP has a real cool level mindset. Respect to SKIPP.
We couldn't tell my father somebody had a fight without him telling us we all should have fought
Not us. We were there for back up in case someone tried to jump in but if it's one on one then you have to handle your own business.
Skip could’ve been anything.. the LA gang culture in the 70’s and 80’s based on extreme bullying etc got to him.
Monster Kody too. He mentioned bullying out. He was a victim too.
So his mother made him violent AND kept him from his father?! Can’t believed they just skipped over that🤦🏿♂️
Your absolutely right ,she went overboard and influenced him to be violent, she was wrong and it caused him trouble and it could have got him kikled
Growing up in LA in those times, unfortunately u had to grow up tuff n be violent if need be...with the gangs all around that's how it was smh...it is what it is...can't blame momma for tryna make her kid tuff
@@Urmak85 rewatch video he literally said mom “kept him from his father AND made him violent”. I’m 42yo raised and still live on the south side of Chicago I understand gangs and those times. Went through it myself. Having a father would have helped A LOT. Hence me pointing out his mom keeping him from dad. That’s not right is all I’m saying.
Wtf is just called not being a victim dumb fucks 😂 no wonder America is how it is today
I like Skipp and his mindset. From an outsider looking in he seems to be doing good work to stop the violence etc.
Much respect from the UK.
“My dad was around… but he was Easter, Christmas, sometime during the Summer. Three or four times a year.”’
Cam : So you didn’t see him much?
Lmfaoooo
Successful black man working hard to be a doctor.
Black woman didn't want him around SMH
#PAYATTENTION
Skip has been in L.A. gang documentaries for over 30 years. He goes way back
This man is a lot more intelligent than I thought he was
Never judge a book by its cover.
Much love to the big homie Skipp‼
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
_Tappin' in from South Central LA_
Shout out to the Big Homie Skipp and his Mother for being Low Bottom natives.
🤜🏾💥🤛🏾
Very informative about how it was growing up in south central L.A. in the 80’s could listen to skip tell stories for hours
He seems to have vivid accurate memories to learning from the mentally of these specific era’s and learning the pros & cons of joining gangs to growing from them
These moms can’t keep their sons away from their father. The worst thing they can do
Been waiting for a skipp interview 👏🏽👏🏽
This goes into the narritive that Charleston White would say about the gangs were nothing but bullies
Not all but crips were and brims
@@jankycuz11um88 then those who weren't where just followers....one guy who wasn't doesn't change the narrative of the whole.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 interview..shout out cam,shout out to the brother skipp
I love when this guy talks he is very analytical and intelligent very calm and articulate I laughed when he said they all would go inside when tookie came around tookie was like a big swole Freddy Krueger in the hood 🤣 Everybody was terrified of him
Rip tookie
Wisdom fr bro respect
this a good conversation to soak up
Damn, my boy Cam Capone need some interviewing skills. Lol
Anyone else with a small temper would go off on his questions lol…
Skip is a real hood fixture. #Respect
My pops used to fight alot too in the early 90s got shot 9 times after beating up two niggas for jumping his brother when they left the club he got hit 9 and survived
Damn big facts!!! when he said why would u be 35 and follow something that was designed by a 13 year old 🤔 😳
Very interesting take on the origins of gang banging. The behavior was started by 13 year olds. Protect Skipp at all costs!
Yea crips were made by 15 year old Raymond Washington on the Eastside
@@user-lb9ee2ur1k so is that why it's so childish to gangbang? That's crazy I never knew a kid started it but makes sense the principles they stand on. Usually juvenile in true reality
@@sellyboy727 yes exactly you have 40-50 year olds now acting like children. Look at wack100 arguing with those bloods on clubhouse. Perfect example of kids in an adult body
@@VansSkully sickkk
@@sellyboy727 Bro do some history on it man. These were youths when the crips were started etc. A lot of them banged for a years then grew out of it. Went to the military, got jobs, got married etc.
I was the youngest of 3. New Orleans. 90s.
My mama, cousins, brother, sister, uncles, aunt's, they Ain play that getting beat up shit. Well u can get beat up, but not without fighting back. We fought like a mf. I was skinny as hell. We fought but we didn't HATE eachother.
Monster was tryna make him tough
Monster Wanted Him To Be 8Trey 😂
@@NoName-is2es no doubt skip wasn't givin in that's where he grew up at so they were coo wit him the 60s did him colder cause they didn't know him
Those first 2:20 seconds is how mother's today needs to be raising their CHILDREN.
He kept it 💯 about his dad. Not brought up the negativity, lack of knowledge of that his dad was also a PERSON. "Even tho I seen him 5 times a year, he was still my dad"💪🏽💯
4:20 mark Not one person can argue this point most honest think ive ever heard on any of these videos
Much respect to this man .. yuu heard
Speaking good sense brother.
best interview i've heard as fas as material goes
I would've learned to see a interview with Skip and Monster... Two very intelligent brothas from the same era.
Monster Cody? A simple sherm head?
@@jonjones7137 I don't judge people I didn't know personally.
@@Geez01 his book about the harm he did to the black community is enough to judge the nimrod
@@jonjones7137 trust me I feel that... I don't mean to sound like Im giving him credit but hate him or love him his name will live longer than he did and will be spoken by many!! Can you say that about your name?? I know I can't!!
@@Geez01 to my children and local community yes. And black people should not be celebrating this scourge on the community. He was a scum killer.
Man when is the movie coming? 💪💯😎
You talking about mom locking the door , brought back memories from my childhood. I was an only child and in the projects of Bmore. My grandma did the same thing to me. I haven't had a problem since then. Thanks grandma!
Sellout
That's deep. Hearing fight everybody from both sides
Skip is the homie, Gotten a chance to tap in with him onetime and he really is about the youth and has great ideas unfortunately not many of his peers carry the same focus or energy.
You tapped that?
He said tapped in as in got in touch , contact, communication , geez stomper stay in school kid!
@@mclovin7484 ooooooohhhhhhhhhh
wish we could all get along fr , shit would be unstoppable
That part, “on code” movement
I swear we would
Dude just told you he saw his father 4-5 times a year and you ask “so you didn’t see him that much?” right after 🤦🏾♂️
Right
"I helped Tookie commit his first murder. I showed him how to bust on fools." - TK Kirkland
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dry
What u mean by that? - Druski
Lol good one
RIP monster my favorite all time book
Real talk, that book started my love for reading at 19 years old.
F that book! That book made a lot of kids monsters
@@Firstnameunknownfr I guarantee it steered more kids away from that lifestyle, than it actually made monsters
@@Malitubee cap
Monster Kody had his own way to show you love-Crazy seeing the difference between him and Wack100, all the money in the world can’t fix ignorance.
Yeah I'm going to send people to rob you & beat you down to show you love. Really‽
Exactly how my mother was.
If you listen to him you wouldn't have to ask the same question or him say something you already had asked. 🤦🏾♂️
Salute to big skip...i stay on his channel..i first saw skip on that slippin 10 years with the bloods doc bac in the 90s...sht blew me away when i got older and heard skip say that doc was script..one of the best doc
He was on slipping? I’ve watched that hella times. Uncle jumbo. And when he cuss the dude on the pier for his rapping being weak was the best parts.
@@donkee9 lol exactly..shit classic
@1:37 that's crazy his moms didn't want to be around his dad but dude was an educated black man. I thought he would be a brother out there running these streets.
Wow some black women really think they can raise three boys by their selves smh wow
You don’t know the circumstances
Apparently he didn’t want to be around
Facts
Classic interview
Realist shi ever .. Salute
Interesting O.G had a Physician Assistant as a father but his father was mostly absent. I’d imagine if his father was present his outcome would be a lot different
I remember SKIP in crips and bloods made in America documentary... glad to see him grow he always kept it real. Hard to not like him
Smart Guy...@Skip.👍🎯💯✌️
This brother real cool hope we can connect someday for our youth org here in CA
I can make that happen with Skipp
Skip you a legend
Salute Big skip..
Real G💯😎
Why in the Black community it’s always the fathers fault when a young man turns to the streets.I grew up in one of the worst housing projects in America and never thought about getting involved in the streets and me and my brother was raised by a single mother. As a 54 year old African American man I will never let me not having a father in my house hold be the blame for the way I carried myself as a youth. As well as a grown man.And just to add one of my homeboys is the owner of TDE.
because it's the truth, just like if a young man is successful without his dad he is viewed as a "success". Studies have shown for years the likelihood of a child's success is greater in 2 parent homes. This is not the case for our community as a whole because we've been broken since we got here. As someone born and raised in South Central L.A. I can attest to what Skip is talking about because it's our reality out here.
@@bossknight3238 I wouldn't say necessarily that we've "broken" since we got here. I'll say we've have problems at the foundation of our cultural identity. The black family was really at it strongest during Jim Crow. But it pretty much stayed together up until social integration. silent Generation black American leadership sold out what worked and was industrious about the culture black people were able to cultivate.
@@ws6258 u get a ٪, it also takes a "village" community to raise up the next generation overall in a positive direction.
Man if you actually sit here and truly believe that a child with two parents doesnt have a greater chance at success becuz yo ass was somehow was an exception to the rule then you arent living in reality. The fact is, especially as black people we need our children raised in two parent households. We have little to no room for error. We need to do things as right as possible. Shout out to yo momma or whatever but stop acting like a positive male role model for a young nigga in the hood wont do wonders for his development.
It's just a cliché bruh! One of my buddies has killed at least two people, he grew up with both parents in the house AND his pop was a preacher! It's a personal thing when we choose a different way, not sure if it's rebellion or what but it does have a little to do with the dad not being thee IF your mother is ghetto or is hardly there because she works. You'll find time to do things with the outside that you wouldn't dare do when she's home! Now that I think about my other old head buddy he's killed at least two people(went to prison for one) and he was raised with both parents, plus 6 siblings. His shit is just in his blood. He cool and I trust him with my life but......
Tookie was like the boggie man lol shit I would go inside lol respect brother skip.
@WaRREN DAVId IS THAT A GOOD THING??!?!?!
Think brother... think....why would a KID run in the house... because of a GROWN MAN coming down the street??? I doubt most are catching the point because he is R.I.P and extremely hood famous...do ur on math brother it's obvious. Peace 2 u
@@mariohannon4665 What are you talking about?
@@lifestraight where I'm from....when we were told 2 come in the house because of a GROWN ass man is coming and we were kids...it's wasn't because he was a gang member or a street fighter. U have heard of a grown man that's hood famous fighting kids ? NO!!! I'm sure u heard other things that aren't favorable to talk about that grown men may do to little kid's. I'm sure ur intelligent enough too figure that part out
My generation was the same way,dont let anyone push you around and fight em...then the parents wonder why we got into it all the time
We hear to much of "my mother taught me" it should be my FATHER. Thats why our community is fucked up
Skip remind s me if my friend fred step dad that lived in dallas tx on centerville road ,he was a real guy just like skip he use to give me and fred lecture s about building at a young age and he told us to work for ourselves I miss fred the older guy like skip there mom was cool and his sister
Skip is a genius
Monsta was clouted up, he wasn't duking you Skipper.
These young boys now a days would smoke Tookie ass they not playing all that Bully shit
Why u think the shootings in the 70s with shotguns and 22s started happening all the time
That’s right SKIP ❤️❤️❤️💯💯💯
4:19-neve4 heard it explained like that
I remember I had a fight outside before they had opened the doors to let us in the school in 6th grade n got suspended…My sperm donor told me I should’ve went n told the principal while my mama said I did the right thing….I stopped respecting my sperm donor after that
Damn Big Skip lived right around the corner from OOOG Cutes, Mouse, Rusty, . How often did y'all come to blows ? Or were they older than you
My mom did the same ..raised me the very same way
Always thought it was Greg Townsend from the Raiders.
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3:30s knowledge begins
Wow explain a lot everyone fighting cause was told fight everyone never back down
Said the same thing Charleston White said
So Tookie & Monster was real life Debo
Tony B Moviehood.... Back in the day they was able to get away with that but catching a fade with a nigga was starting to play out.
@@vincentharris2259 Yea absolutely. Different day today
@@TonyBMoviehood People keep saying that they fought like men back in the day They were shooting instead of fighting back then too.
@@vincentharris2259 Not as much shooting tho. Way more gun access now x3
@@TonyBMoviehood That's true.
OG skip townsend
All these so called gangsters die broke wit nothin to show.
Thats how the game go, ain't no retirement plans or 401ks
@@yaseen5121 they do have free housing, food and all the booty weed you can smoke in the pen:)
Great observation Charleston White Jr.
@@HollyCain44 just a lil joke:) nigga act like i lied tho??
Willie D Said That
I understand what he is trying to say but when your 12 and 13 you have a lemonade store. When your 25 and up you have a lemonade franchise.
Like he said you have Mature and get out the streets
All I knew is when ur a kid,and there is a grown man in the neighborhood...IM SPEAKING FROM WHERE IM FROM...u ain't running in the house because of fear of this grown ass man may hit u....it's another reason why u would...I will let u guys figure that out. Sum of us may not like 2 be REAL when it comes 2 HOOD or CELEBRITY legends...but I love what Skip is saying.... peace 2 him and everyone on the post and no disrespect 2 anyone. But there are certain individuals that are street legends and information about sum of there behavior IS LEFT out from the general public.4 a reason!🤔
So she was very much street 🤷🏾♂️
If the Crips or Bloods were more of a mafia style organization with real leaders, structure, co leaders, presidents and treasurers it would be more understandable being an adult still being involved.
They don’t do it for money
facts
When CW said this @4:00 (Grown men still in gangs) He was considered a hater and they was mad at him. ??? Why?
I never heard anyone break it down like that way follow something a 13yr started
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I’m not a gang member or gang banger but if someone puts hands on me I’m going to defend myself once you put hands on me there’s nothing to talk about whatever the consequences are I’ll deal with it I’m not looking for trouble or starting trouble and I know how to reason as a man but once it gets physical there is nothing to talk about
Ok
Big Skip yo moms grew up like me 22nd n Naomi homie!
and was your dad around? Hahahahaha.
Come on skipp. Lol that shit come afterwards. It’s about teaching your kids to defend themselves. The parents cud figure out what, why & how.
I’d rather be a murderer, than a witness.
This guy interviews much better than Vlad
Cams response seems like he's not sure what skip is saying..
He never knows