This strategy is definitely tough to beat! I play it at the $60 level with some filters. Most don’t strategies lose for 3 reasons: 1) come out 7 and 11 2) a hit shooter that hits a lot of points 3) multiple hot to semi hot shooters that are hitting points. (Ie 3 shooters back to back that make 3 points each etc). #1 is not an issue with this strategy #2 you can have a filter or stop loss on the shooter and I don’t bet on the shooter once they make their 3rd point. To limit my losses if they continue to make points #3 is the only risk you’re taking, nothing you can really do about that.
Been playing this strategy for the last three weeks at a local casino. 5 trips😅So far an average return of 20% on a $2,000 bankroll. It will cycle up and down over several hrs but always comes back due to the math. Will say as an FYI that I’m required to do”proper” bets so it’s units of $100 on the 4&10 and $102 on 5,6,8,9 with the vig being $3 on 5&9 payout $68 and $4 on 6&8 payout $85. Love your channel sir!
Been playing this a few times by not laddering past level 2 no matter what .. I just consistently bet 1unit 2unit ..and still make 10unit profit..just keep betting 1,2 win or lose …I’m thinking if I’m down 10units then I’ll start by betting 1,3 1,3 1,3 until I recoup. But so far 1,2 works by itself
It'll win not laddering at all overtime! The ladder with this is almost unstoppable because of avoiding the comeout! A parlay would be great with this also for that reason
How about making correct bets & you don’t lose all those dollars. $100 lay behind 6 pays 76? Where’d you get that number from ? 96 wins 80 and 4 wins 3 so that’s 83-$4 juice. Should be $79. $78 at the worst.
Correct bets? Bets pay what they pay ! 100$ lay on a 6&8 pays 76$ that's including the vig! That's why I play Roll2Win or Bubble craps alot of times because I don't have to deal with dumbasses! math ain't that hard
I have a variation: My casino is a $5 dollar table with 10x odds. I put 5 on the pass and on the dont. $1 on the 12. After point, Then I just lay odds on the don’t for $60. If lose then lvl 2 is $10 on pass and dont, lay odds of $120. Keep laddering all three as you level and your “vig” is just the buck you spent on the 12 that could possibly win you $30 Bank roll of $600. As an addition, I like to play $27 across after the point and feed the 6 and 8 with outside # wins.
My problem at the casino was always lack of a good betting system and thanks to you and a very few others, I have the benefit of some great players experience, systems, observations, and insights. Thank You Waylon.
Just saw this I’m trying it Wednesday . I’ll lay $50 and then go up on increments of $25 and I’ll change my bankroll to double and work till I get back to $50 as my base just till I get comfortable . Feedback greatly appreciated , bless you Walton
Well with this I'd probably go 3 levels! Avoiding the comeout 7&11s makes this System damn near impossible to beat! It forces the shooter to hit every point! Ain't gonna happen
I have been practicing this on Crapsee at 24 on 6&8 30 on 5&9, 40 on 4&10 as my base units. If I am on lvl 2 or more I put 5 on 6&8 maybe also 5&9 depending on how I have been doing. Even at $500 bankroll it seems to work fairly well.
Great strategy Waylon. Definitely a daily paycheck. Pray you’re doing well health wise. Keep having the fun you do and appreciate you keeping your channel going👍👍
Winning $$ this way sucks Waylon. Just kidding, of course, cause that's all this strategy does. Just got back from Louisiana playing this on bubble craps, and won every session. $600 buy-in's, $12 levels, and ground out 3 sessions. Observations: 50 unit buy-in makes it comfortable, but never needed it, half covered play last night. Win Goal of 10 units has a high probability, 20 units is reasonable/doable, for more you need a strong bladder. Tempted to add Place bets at times, but it would have just eaten into the profits (leave the Lay alone). The machines are like most big tables, warm table is rare, hot Shooter more common. Twice I switched to Placing the Point on long rolls, used it to Ladder down, then back to the Lays. Doubled my Buy-in in 7 hours, long day yet I was never in trouble (except for that one time getting to the can). Ladder max'd at level 5, youngsters gonna be bored to tears, shame
@@waylonswaycraps Bankroll Builder here Brother, thank you. Going to try $30 units at the big table next. Here are 2 hard & fast play rules: (1) Max of 2 Lay losses per Shooter (2) Lay the 4&10 for $40 (for every Level of $30 Inside). Ready for this? I'm running test sessions using a 20 unit Buy-in, why? 10 units covers 4 Levels. Results → if bets stay Levels 1-4 = 5-10 unit Win Goal, bet goes to Level 5, Win Goal 0-5 units. Keep you posted, Cheers!
This is a strong way to play., The only possible improvement I see is to play the do/don't for the same amount and lay against whatever the point is. Payout is a little better. For example, if you lay 100 bucks against the 8 and you win without the do/don't, the payoff is 76 bucks. If you do the same thing with the do/don't method, the payout is 83 bucks so you make 7 bucks more. If you are concerned about the 12 on the come out roll, you could bet whatever amount to cover your don't bet and you would still come out a little ahead when the 7 comes. I will caution that the dealers hate the doey/don't move since it's a little more work for them. Hope this makes sense and I don't mean to take away at all from this kick ass strategy.
@@waylonswaycraps Since you have reminded us that the sum of 4 and 10 rolls the same number of times as the 7 does, I think a good idea for another video is a no 4 and no 10 ladder system. The amount of each wager is the same, if it loses, you go up a unit, and if it wins, you come down a unit. I guess this is the opposite of your 4 and 10 ladder system from the right side. Seems like this would be a pretty effective and safe way to play but as we know, it's always variable at the casino when we use our real money. Let me know your thoughts. Enjoy your videos!
Hey Waylon, if the lay win is on the 4 or 10 that was laddered up and you won on the 4 or 10 at that level and it only pays half would you consider betting that same level amount again on the next point instead of laddering down?😁😉
@@waylonswaycrapsthat’s why I recommend a repeat win on any level for the same amount then ladder down on the lay after a win.. if win go back down .. if lose go up.
Because when you get a hit shooter or a hot table you could lose a lot, you need a big bankroll for martingaling it. At the table the other day. The shooter hit 3 points, then the shooter after him didn’t hit a point, then I was next and had 45 rolls with 6 points! Good thing I don’t play this strategy on myself. So ended up with a good sum of money.
Hello - I absolutely love your Chanel! Some good stuff. Couple things - some constructive criticism - at every casino when there is a new roller or a 7 out - the dice are changed. They are thrown back into the tray and the roller has to choose new dice. Would like to see that happen in your videos. By the way I rolled out 3 different times the don’t pass 6, 8 and it was not consistent - 500 Bank roll - 322 profit first time - -178 loss second time and 12 profit on third time. I did follow along closely with what the casino does as far as the dice exchanged and also used proper amounts on 6 and 8. I know some casinos let you place improper bets on box numbers (Biloxi - I have been and they do that) is that where you play? Thanks for your time and effort.
Yeah man , talk to you before but I’m new at this and I’m learning an ass ton from you. Thank you I love the pack your rack strategy and now this is pretty cool. I’m gonna have $500 and that will be $5 chips . I’m not new to gambling just new to craps and they just got craps in my casino here in south west Florida on the 11th I’ll be there with bells the 20th 😂 I’m looking for good pay day strategy because I can’t work anymore.. thank you brother
Interesting and I like it, but the vig has to be taken into account. In your video the total outlay was 4600 so the vig would have been 230 and that is approximately 30% of your 700 profit.... so your real profit would be 470....still a good profit. Enjoy your videos.
On a real table you can do the doey dont to save on the vig, you will lose of course when a 12 is thrown on the come out but overtime you'll make up for that in the vig you didn't have to pay. 💪🤠👍
Yeah we can see how well it works shen 7 showin up every 3 rolls…..I want to see what happened when a shooter makes6- 7 points And the next shooter makes 3-4 points and the next shooter makes a couple points….
You would see a bankroll disappear...LOL. The BIG question is whether this - or any other strategy can beat the overall house edge on the craps table (or any other casino game). In poker they talk about +EV decisions but in table games every single bet has a house edge baked into it...well almost all. Can any strategy or combination of strategies overcome this baked in house edge over time? I dont know the answer to that - but - for some reason I love watching Waylon's videos and hearing his voice...so entertaining...
Waylon or can anyone chime in. This strategy is great but can be killed by 1-2 hot shooters. Someone yesterday hit 5 points on 14 rolls. Next shooter hit 3 points. That’s 7 levels!! I know you could stop playing after the third point. But when you start again at the next shooter do you just continue to progression or start from base ?
So I call my version of this strategy the 'Lay-Place Transform', and Waylon calls 'switching' the 'baccarat' approach in a few of his other strategies elsewhere on this channel. With the Lay-Place Transform, basically on a seven-out, your next bet is a lay-bet. On a point Pass, your next bet is a place bet. Whether or not you 'transform' from dark to light or light to dark depends on what your current bet is. Generally ladder bet levels up and down based on 'lost money' (up) or 'won money' (down). See my top-level post in this comment thread for more detail about the exception for this strategy when 'transforming' from dark to light on point Pass, which is essentially 'stay at same bet level, don't ladder-up on loss when transforming from dark to light'. That's it in a nutshell, and it looks like a license to print money!
Yeah once in a while they do! I was playing it a few weeks ago and the first shooter hit 4 points ! I swapped to the passline and the next shooter hit 3 comeout 7s lol ! He psod so I swapped back to laying the point and 5 7 outs in a row! I got lucky I guess
I tried the baccarat version of this strategy on manual-Crapsee and won more than the original version. I would start with the Lay-Point .. if I lose the Lay-Point .. I switch to the Place-Point. But win or lose the Place-Point .. I would always go back to the Lay-Point.
I watched this one again using your rolls, but I used the don’t pass on the come out. That way you get the full value instead of the odds and you don’t have to pay the big. Doing it this way you would have won $2100 instead of the $700. Try it out sometime. Keep up the great work.
Yeah if you don't hit many comeout 7&11s the dp is hands down the better way to play no doubt! I created this strategy for short term play ! Say you're playing it on 3 or 4 shooters and all of them throw comeout 7 or 11s catch a point and 7 out! This way would be the better option! I have seen as many as 8 comeout 7&11s before! That is a killer
@@waylonswaycraps true that, but I think you would be making enough on the don’t pass to cover the additional 7’s and 11’s. I love this strategy, it takes less bankroll.
This would be great to play on a table with Fire bet as a hedge against a shooter who does hit 3-4 points, might cut into profits a bit, but just another little wrinkle to add
My casino has a sharpshooter bet, (so doesn’t have to be different points that are hit). It starts at 3 points (6 to 1), 4 Points (9 to 1), 5 points (20 to 1), 6 points (30 to 1) etc. I would just put $10 on the sharpshooter and then stop betting when the shooter hits their 3rd point. Then stay at the $180 level for the next shooter. Still working out the kinks
I think youre on to something here. Only way I see it getting beat is playing with to low a bankroll or playing baccarat style and its just point, 7, point, 7, every other time. Which after a few of those, you could just stay on the dark side. Im gonna play this one out on my table at home a few times and if goes good Im taking it to tunica next weekend, because I cant see it losing often and maybe not at all if its played right.
I've played it 2 weeks now everyday multiple times a day and I haven't beat it yet! Not saying it can't be beat but I've yet to do it! I have no reason to lie
@@waylonswaycraps I've stumbled upon this through some of your other videos. I did try this out flat betting and martingale when laying the point. It does bust out. On both of them. I haven't tried the laddering though. When I simulate I'm usually testing stuff on wizard of odds craps simulator. It's often gone to 4 levels and as deep as 7 levels. Digging out of the hole is rough. Don't get me wrong it does have sucess but seems like wins vs losses in the long run it catches up with you and your either a loser or close to break even. I was reading other comments though on this video. Perhaps my session roll isn't big enough?? I see you have a 5k roll but for the 100 unit bets. What do you suggest should be a session goal for your take home profits?
@@Eadweard76 I've played it as in this video for 2 weeks multiple times a day and haven't lost yet! If you lost put it in a video until then I call bs! Lose 5000$ or win 500$ ! Not gonna happen bro
@@waylonswaycraps ive played it on wizard of odds 10 times today. $10 bets and a $600 bankroll and I got up to $900 10 times out of 10. Its slow, but it steadily wins. Any other strat would be lucky to beat wizard of odds 3 times out of 10. Its made a believer out of me. Ill let you know how my tunica trip pans out in couple weeks.
@@Mccaid ok brother! Yeah Wizard of odds is about like win craps it tries to make you lose ! So if you can win with it on there I'd say it's a miracle 😂😂😂
This strategy is definitely tough to beat! I play it at the $60 level with some filters. Most don’t strategies lose for 3 reasons:
1) come out 7 and 11
2) a hit shooter that hits a lot of points
3) multiple hot to semi hot shooters that are hitting points. (Ie 3 shooters back to back that make 3 points each etc).
#1 is not an issue with this strategy
#2 you can have a filter or stop loss on the shooter and I don’t bet on the shooter once they make their 3rd point. To limit my losses if they continue to make points
#3 is the only risk you’re taking, nothing you can really do about that.
Been playing this strategy for the last three weeks at a local casino. 5 trips😅So far an average return of 20% on a $2,000 bankroll. It will cycle up and down over several hrs but always comes back due to the math. Will say as an FYI that I’m required to do”proper” bets so it’s units of $100 on the 4&10 and $102 on 5,6,8,9 with the vig being $3 on 5&9 payout $68 and $4 on 6&8 payout $85. Love your channel sir!
Craps master strikes again, this kind of strategy is hard to beat no matter what 7^s gonna come out baby . Thank you master Waylon.
No doubt about it
This strategy that will make you win every time you play. Hard to beat like Waylon said, the best strategy I stick to this one always.
Been playing this a few times by not laddering past level 2 no matter what ..
I just consistently bet 1unit 2unit ..and still make 10unit profit..just keep betting 1,2 win or lose …I’m thinking if I’m down 10units then I’ll start by betting 1,3 1,3 1,3 until I recoup. But so far 1,2 works by itself
I read that as you only ladder up to level 2, if it hits you down to 1. If it does not hit do you stay at 2 or back down to 1? Thx!
It'll win not laddering at all overtime! The ladder with this is almost unstoppable because of avoiding the comeout! A parlay would be great with this also for that reason
How about making correct bets & you don’t lose all those dollars. $100 lay behind 6 pays 76? Where’d you get that number from ? 96 wins 80 and 4 wins 3 so that’s 83-$4 juice. Should be $79. $78 at the worst.
Correct bets? Bets pay what they pay ! 100$ lay on a 6&8 pays 76$ that's including the vig! That's why I play Roll2Win or Bubble craps alot of times because I don't have to deal with dumbasses! math ain't that hard
@@waylonswaycraps well. If it pays you 76 its robbing you. $100 pays $83.33 - 5% which equals $79.16. Live & learn.
I love this!!! Can afford it at $100 level, only laying the point....your the best
I have a variation: My casino is a $5 dollar table with 10x odds. I put 5 on the pass and on the dont. $1 on the 12. After point, Then I just lay odds on the don’t for $60. If lose then lvl 2 is $10 on pass and dont, lay odds of $120. Keep laddering all three as you level and your “vig” is just the buck you spent on the 12 that could possibly win you $30
Bank roll of $600.
As an addition, I like to play $27 across after the point and feed the 6 and 8 with outside # wins.
Sounds good I play the doey dont ladder! Works great
My problem at the casino was always lack of a good betting system and thanks to you and a very few others, I have the benefit of some great players experience, systems, observations, and insights. Thank You Waylon.
Just saw this I’m trying it Wednesday . I’ll lay $50 and then go up on increments of $25 and I’ll change my bankroll to double and work till I get back to $50 as my base just till I get comfortable . Feedback greatly appreciated , bless you Walton
Betting against shooter…If he makes 3 points back off until next shooter…..For 3 consecutive shooters to each make 3 points is very unlikely
Hey Waylon, How much better would a guy do in the long run if you only took one loss on a shooter? May not have to go as high in levels as often?😁😉
Well with this I'd probably go 3 levels! Avoiding the comeout 7&11s makes this System damn near impossible to beat! It forces the shooter to hit every point! Ain't gonna happen
I have been practicing this on Crapsee at 24 on 6&8 30 on 5&9, 40 on 4&10 as my base units. If I am on lvl 2 or more I put 5 on 6&8 maybe also 5&9 depending on how I have been doing. Even at $500 bankroll it seems to work fairly well.
Adding place bets takes away wins on the 7 I've tried it both ways
I have had some 33 to 52 rolls without a 7, but I have never had a 6 point hit and only a few times a 5 point hit
Great strategy Waylon. Definitely a daily paycheck. Pray you’re doing well health wise. Keep having the fun you do and appreciate you keeping your channel going👍👍
Thanks and you're welcome brother
You are so very correct with this strategy, it is rare when I have seen a shooter make multiple points.
Winning $$ this way sucks Waylon. Just kidding, of course, cause that's all this strategy does. Just got back from Louisiana playing this on bubble craps, and won every session.
$600 buy-in's, $12 levels, and ground out 3 sessions. Observations: 50 unit buy-in makes it comfortable, but never needed it, half covered play last night. Win Goal of 10 units has a high probability, 20 units is reasonable/doable, for more you need a strong bladder. Tempted to add Place bets at times, but it would have just eaten into the profits (leave the Lay alone). The machines are like most big tables, warm table is rare, hot Shooter more common. Twice I switched to Placing the Point on long rolls, used it to Ladder down, then back to the Lays.
Doubled my Buy-in in 7 hours, long day yet I was never in trouble (except for that one time getting to the can). Ladder max'd at level 5, youngsters gonna be bored to tears, shame
Nice job brother! Nice
@@waylonswaycraps Bankroll Builder here Brother, thank you. Going to try $30 units at the big table next. Here are 2 hard & fast play rules: (1) Max of 2 Lay losses per Shooter (2) Lay the 4&10 for $40 (for every Level of $30 Inside). Ready for this? I'm running test sessions using a 20 unit Buy-in, why? 10 units covers 4 Levels. Results → if bets stay Levels 1-4 = 5-10 unit Win Goal, bet goes to Level 5, Win Goal 0-5 units.
Keep you posted, Cheers!
Out of all the strategies what do you think will be the best for 1000$ bankroll
Hard to say but this one is as good as any!
Went n tried for 10 -15 min. To overcome my fear… only tried this game a half dozen times
this son of a gun all but bullet proof if you can stick with it laddering up and down. Great strategy, thanks for sharing partner
No problem brother! Love this one
This is a strong way to play., The only possible improvement I see is to play the do/don't for the same amount and lay against whatever the point is. Payout is a little better. For example, if you lay 100 bucks against the 8 and you win without the do/don't, the payoff is 76 bucks. If you do the same thing with the do/don't method, the payout is 83 bucks so you make 7 bucks more. If you are concerned about the 12 on the come out roll, you could bet whatever amount to cover your don't bet and you would still come out a little ahead when the 7 comes. I will caution that the dealers hate the doey/don't move since it's a little more work for them.
Hope this makes sense and I don't mean to take away at all from this kick ass strategy.
Yes it makes sense but alot of casinos don't allow a doey don't ! So this is for them lol
@@waylonswaycraps Since you have reminded us that the sum of 4 and 10 rolls the same number of times as the 7 does, I think a good idea for another video is a no 4 and no 10 ladder system. The amount of each wager is the same, if it loses, you go up a unit, and if it wins, you come down a unit. I guess this is the opposite of your 4 and 10 ladder system from the right side. Seems like this would be a pretty effective and safe way to play but as we know, it's always variable at the casino when we use our real money. Let me know your thoughts. Enjoy your videos!
Is it true that the odds of rolling five consecutive established points is less than 1%
Hey Waylon, if the lay win is on the 4 or 10 that was laddered up and you won on the 4 or 10 at that level and it only pays half would you consider betting that same level amount again on the next point instead of laddering down?😁😉
I would! Since you're avoiding comeout losers this system has back to back wins quite often
@@waylonswaycrapsthat’s why I recommend a repeat win on any level for the same amount then ladder down on the lay after a win.. if win go back down .. if lose go up.
If it does not go past level two very often why not add "match it and martingale" to this. Should pay off well.
Works great!
Shooter is constantly endeavouring to hit point . Has to hit sometimes !
@@shirleyrichard-qv9lw yes it happens! Not having to go through the comeout makes this System what it is though
Because when you get a hit shooter or a hot table you could lose a lot, you need a big bankroll for martingaling it. At the table the other day. The shooter hit 3 points, then the shooter after him didn’t hit a point, then I was next and had 45 rolls with 6 points! Good thing I don’t play this strategy on myself. So ended up with a good sum of money.
Hello - I absolutely love your Chanel! Some good stuff. Couple things - some constructive criticism - at every casino when there is a new roller or a 7 out - the dice are changed. They are thrown back into the tray and the roller has to choose new dice. Would like to see that happen in your videos. By the way I rolled out 3 different times the don’t pass 6, 8 and it was not consistent - 500 Bank roll - 322 profit first time - -178 loss second time and 12 profit on third time. I did follow along closely with what the casino does as far as the dice exchanged and also used proper amounts on 6 and 8. I know some casinos let you place improper bets on box numbers (Biloxi - I have been and they do that) is that where you play? Thanks for your time and effort.
Biloxi yes! There's no such thing as an improper bet! They pay what they pay
Do the dealers know all these odd amount payouts? I certainly don't. You must have a cheat sheet.
Im pretty good at math! So are the dealers in Biloxi! Bets pay what they pay ! No such thing as improper bets
@@waylonswaycraps Thanks for the reply
Yeah man , talk to you before but I’m new at this and I’m learning an ass ton from you. Thank you I love the pack your rack strategy and now this is pretty cool. I’m gonna have $500 and that will be $5 chips . I’m not new to gambling just new to craps and they just got craps in my casino here in south west Florida on the 11th I’ll be there with bells the 20th 😂 I’m looking for good pay day strategy because I can’t work anymore.. thank you brother
I plan on coming and playing in Florida soon
Do you know if they have bubble craps at the hard rock in Hollywood Florida
Interesting and I like it, but the vig has to be taken into account. In your video the total outlay was 4600 so the vig would have been 230 and that is approximately 30% of your 700 profit.... so your real profit would be 470....still a good profit.
Enjoy your videos.
So the vig is already taken out on all the bets except the 4&10 so you're wrong brother! The vig is taken out on the 5,6,8&9 already
So my profit would be about 50$ less if that
On a real table you can do the doey dont to save on the vig, you will lose of course when a 12 is thrown on the come out but overtime you'll make up for that in the vig you didn't have to pay. 💪🤠👍
I don't have to worry about 12s with this one! Just lay the point ! No need for a doey don't ! Waste of time and money
Yeah we can see how well it works shen 7 showin up every 3 rolls…..I want to see what happened when a shooter makes6- 7 points And the next shooter makes 3-4 points and the next shooter makes a couple points….
Do a video on it I'd like to see that myself
You would see a bankroll disappear...LOL. The BIG question is whether this - or any other strategy can beat the overall house edge on the craps table (or any other casino game). In poker they talk about +EV decisions but in table games every single bet has a house edge baked into it...well almost all. Can any strategy or combination of strategies overcome this baked in house edge over time? I dont know the answer to that - but - for some reason I love watching Waylon's videos and hearing his voice...so entertaining...
T.y. 4 being a straight shooter Mr.W
Waylon or can anyone chime in. This strategy is great but can be killed by 1-2 hot shooters. Someone yesterday hit 5 points on 14 rolls. Next shooter hit 3 points. That’s 7 levels!! I know you could stop playing after the third point. But when you start again at the next shooter do you just continue to progression or start from base ?
@waylons way craps. Would you recommend continuing the progression or take the loss and start from base?
So I call my version of this strategy the 'Lay-Place Transform', and Waylon calls 'switching' the 'baccarat' approach in a few of his other strategies elsewhere on this channel. With the Lay-Place Transform, basically on a seven-out, your next bet is a lay-bet. On a point Pass, your next bet is a place bet. Whether or not you 'transform' from dark to light or light to dark depends on what your current bet is. Generally ladder bet levels up and down based on 'lost money' (up) or 'won money' (down). See my top-level post in this comment thread for more detail about the exception for this strategy when 'transforming' from dark to light on point Pass, which is essentially 'stay at same bet level, don't ladder-up on loss when transforming from dark to light'.
That's it in a nutshell, and it looks like a license to print money!
@@Brandon.Nicholscan you break it down here for some reason I can’t see your comment.
I tried this today and got trashed. Sometimes the points hit. alot.
Yeah once in a while they do! I was playing it a few weeks ago and the first shooter hit 4 points ! I swapped to the passline and the next shooter hit 3 comeout 7s lol ! He psod so I swapped back to laying the point and 5 7 outs in a row! I got lucky I guess
Play it with the 4/10 lay..or placed. N lay the point?
Already have a video of that strat!
im trying this out this weekend
I tried the baccarat version of this strategy on manual-Crapsee
and won more than the original version.
I would start with the Lay-Point ..
if I lose the Lay-Point .. I switch to the Place-Point.
But win or lose the Place-Point .. I would always go back to the Lay-Point.
Roll tide! Listening to you from Dothan.
Roll Tide brother
Don't they put the BUY wager in the same spot as the LAY wager ??
I like it Waylon 🎉
Sweet I like it.. too
Do you have a favorite strategy?
Thanks for the insights on this game
Awesome going try
Ty good luck
I watched this one again using your rolls, but I used the don’t pass on the come out. That way you get the full value instead of the odds and you don’t have to pay the big. Doing it this way you would have won $2100 instead of the $700. Try it out sometime. Keep up the great work.
Yeah if you don't hit many comeout 7&11s the dp is hands down the better way to play no doubt! I created this strategy for short term play ! Say you're playing it on 3 or 4 shooters and all of them throw comeout 7 or 11s catch a point and 7 out! This way would be the better option! I have seen as many as 8 comeout 7&11s before! That is a killer
@@waylonswaycraps true that, but I think you would be making enough on the don’t pass to cover the additional 7’s and 11’s. I love this strategy, it takes less bankroll.
This would be great to play on a table with Fire bet as a hedge against a shooter who does hit 3-4 points, might cut into profits a bit, but just another little wrinkle to add
I like that play
My casino has a sharpshooter bet, (so doesn’t have to be different points that are hit). It starts at 3 points (6 to 1), 4 Points (9 to 1), 5 points (20 to 1), 6 points (30 to 1) etc. I would just put $10 on the sharpshooter and then stop betting when the shooter hits their 3rd point. Then stay at the $180 level for the next shooter. Still working out the kinks
I think youre on to something here. Only way I see it getting beat is playing with to low a bankroll or playing baccarat style and its just point, 7, point, 7, every other time. Which after a few of those, you could just stay on the dark side. Im gonna play this one out on my table at home a few times and if goes good Im taking it to tunica next weekend, because I cant see it losing often and maybe not at all if its played right.
I've played it 2 weeks now everyday multiple times a day and I haven't beat it yet! Not saying it can't be beat but I've yet to do it! I have no reason to lie
@@waylonswaycraps I've stumbled upon this through some of your other videos. I did try this out flat betting and martingale when laying the point. It does bust out. On both of them. I haven't tried the laddering though. When I simulate I'm usually testing stuff on wizard of odds craps simulator. It's often gone to 4 levels and as deep as 7 levels. Digging out of the hole is rough.
Don't get me wrong it does have sucess but seems like wins vs losses in the long run it catches up with you and your either a loser or close to break even.
I was reading other comments though on this video. Perhaps my session roll isn't big enough?? I see you have a 5k roll but for the 100 unit bets. What do you suggest should be a session goal for your take home profits?
@@Eadweard76 I've played it as in this video for 2 weeks multiple times a day and haven't lost yet! If you lost put it in a video until then I call bs! Lose 5000$ or win 500$ ! Not gonna happen bro
@@waylonswaycraps ive played it on wizard of odds 10 times today. $10 bets and a $600 bankroll and I got up to $900 10 times out of 10. Its slow, but it steadily wins. Any other strat would be lucky to beat wizard of odds 3 times out of 10. Its made a believer out of me. Ill let you know how my tunica trip pans out in couple weeks.
@@Mccaid ok brother! Yeah Wizard of odds is about like win craps it tries to make you lose ! So if you can win with it on there I'd say it's a miracle 😂😂😂