Hola pana, thanks for this. There is good science to explain why the 11.75” feels/sounds better at that frequency.. the shell is just well suited to sit at C. I also play an 11.75” for all your reasons, and also at C, because that’s where it belongs. The skin, a medium/thick steer, is sitting at the perfect tension to produce a full tone and deep bass, but also quick response and dynamic/overtones as your hands demand. Conversely, the 11”, all else being equal, is sitting a little too slack to give the same feedback to your hands/ears. Same skin, same wood, smaller diameter, should probably be more comfortable at D or D#... keep up the great work!
I agree with the first person view , that the conga has a more depth in tunning. I also like to bring Quinto up when I am doing more lead when playing Rumba. It is a matter of preference and exploring what you want. Keep sharing Eric...!
Depending on the type of music, of course. Sometimes I use the Tumba as a main drum for the songs that are calm, jazzy, smooth and not loud alike, like bossanova or swing with brush drums companion. I play tumbao on the Tumba because it don't require bright or sharp slap sounds, but warm and mellow slap sounds with the low open tone, so the quinto and/or conga are secondary and play the open tones only. Cheers! ;)
Omg. Finally a comparison vid. We’re thinking about starting out on these drums and wanted to not only know the differences but HEAR the differences and wondered why no one did a side-by-side comparison. Great job! Muchas gracias !!
I am new on your channel, but have looked through it for a week & love it! I enjoy playing bongos & congas & you are the best teacher I have ever seen on TH-cam ever! I have a LP Giovanni galaxy requino & tumba & three LP Aspire congas & I have tuned them to sound like a set & amazed myself! I will switch to all giovanni galaxy congas when can afford.
Awesome vid Bro, well done! I guess I'm old school so I do prefer the quinto as my main, but like you said it is a preference thing. Anyway keep up the great work as always!
I come from a Go-Go background so I'm torn. IMHO, the open tones of the conga are noticeably warmer, richer, and fuller. With that said, the closed slaps of the quinto are subtly crisper with the open slaps about equal between both drums. My open slaps suck and I'm always amazed how pronounced yours and other percussionists achieve that level of crispness in open slaps.
Using the Q is a more dualistic sound - Q sits high and the two other drums act as an opposing grounding force. Using the conga is a more centered sound - balancing between higher and lower pitches. I personally like the pitch relationship of using the Q for a dominant high sitting above the mid/low pitch relationship vs using conga which is a dominant mid sitting between high/low pitch relationship.
Nice vid. I learned from a viejito growing up and was taght to use the quinto as my main. I love the sound it gives. I do eliminate unwanted overtones by putting a single 12"*12" tile of studio foam inside of my quinto. It just stays there. Works great and still projects perfect and great tone. Try it. Thanks.
really liked the vid...and loved your "free foolin around" playing man..but i think its not a fair comparison..each drum (and skin) has a certain resonance point cause of its size ..so in the same tone the conga will always sound rich in tones and the quinto better with slaps..my opinion..still as you said is all about preference and of course the style of music you are playing..thanks for all your work and your vidz
Great video! I personally love the additional bass and depth of the conga, and the slaps are thicker sounding as well! I couldn't see myself playing in a band with quinto, unless I absolutely had to.
Hey Eric...thanks for this video, buddy. I love it when you do things like this! Just one question...the two heads are different shades. Does this mean they are different thicknesses, and of so, wouldn't they have different tones? Thanks for a reply, and keep up the fantastic work!!
Great question!!! The thickness of the skin will definitely make a difference in the tone... The shade doesn't reflect the thickness... it "may" effect the tone... again "may", but not really... The skin I had on the Conga before was about the same thickness as this one and they give off just about the same tone... The quinto does have a slightly thinner skin but very slightly...
Your playing was awesome as usual. The conga sounded clearer than the quinto to me. I use a LP fiberglass galaxy requinto as a segundo. I find that LP drums run rather large so I use myLP Patato conga as a tumba after I tune it down.
Very interesting to listen! I hear that first time today! Greetings from Germany. Short time ago started with Bongos. Before played accordion in Germany for many tourists. Now as pensioner take time to learn other instruments!
I'm right handed and was always taught to position the "conga" on the right and "quinto" on to the left hand. This didn't feel right for years until I saw and heard 'Big Black' play opposite of that. I guess it's like playing a piano right?
Eric! My paps used to say ,(mijo el quinto es para requintear ) he was always right and if its fiberglass is even better sounds louder that's also true. My self i prefer 2 , 11.75 , one of them as my main another 11.75 conga on my left a 12 , on my right my 14 on center. They sound great. I hardly ever use the quinto. Unless is use as clave like you did in one of your tutorials. Thanks for comparation. Saludos
Great Eric! Would you use a quinto as a main drum (center) if you play batá rhythms adapted to congas or other african 6/8 rhythms? You consider it is better to keep the highest drum in the center? And last question :) If you do not have a quinto but 2 congas and a tumba..Is it possible to tune one of the congas higher than the other to replace the quinto sound without affecting the conga/skin itself? Gracias!!
Eric , I've only been trying to play for about two years with a quinto. After hearing both, I like the conga over the Quinto. The quinto appears to have a high pitch. Of course my opinion ! Thanks for the tuner App. ! I'm going try it this week.
I use the quinto, but I really don't know what I'm doing. That's why I'm watching you. I'm just trying get the rhythms down cleanly. Thanks for sharing your talent.
I get that. My detuned quinto sounds great for the tres golpes part. Might the quality of the skin but the slaps and muffles are too easy to articulate. If only i had 9,5inch quinto for the actual quinto part.
I also love to use 11.75" Conga as my main drum compared to 11" Quinto because I love the body sound & the bass sound is so clear... The overtone? If I'm playing modern songs (Pop, Rock), Quinto is the best especially if it's tuned in Eb... If I'm playing Jazz or Ballad, I prefer Conga especially if it's tuned in C...
Love the content my brother. I alway felt the quinto gave a hardware-harmonic like sound, which is why always use as an accent drum if I'm playing by myself. But then again sometimes you gotta break ruttin and change it up so you wont get board. lol.
Hey! The ring is rubber and doesn’t cause any damage to my finger or the drum. And the watch as well... the band is rubber and because of my hand positioning is doesn’t bother... I take it off when I play for performances though
Thanks for the video ,now my question is most sets out there comes with quinto, conga,tumba, given you only have 1 tumba would you play on conga and tune quinto lower in A or B or would you play on the quinto ?
Great question... So yes I would still use the Conga as my main and tune the Quinto lower to be between the Tumba and Conga... and still tune the quinto in a B
If I were to play on just one drum and as a main drum I think I would also go with the Conga, but if you had to play say the tumbao? Would you be using a Conga and Tumba? Or what do you recommend?
I was recently given a refurbished Quinto that belonged to my dad Jerry Gonzalez 30 years ago. It was in his friend's storage for a long time. I am trying to become familiar with quinto sound.
This is nuts but for now have to use a requinto as my main drum right now until I can get an LP Giovanni galaxy tumba & now waiting for a Quinto to come & have already a conga but I have to use it like a tumba until I can complete my LP Giovanni galaxy conga set! What you do when saving money!
Ok I'm looking for clarification, they are both congas right? The Quinto is the highest, the tres dos is the middle, and the tumba is the lowest? So this video compares the high and middle pitched congas, and the tres dos is referred to as the conga? Thanks
Very nice video ,,, Congratulations for your playing ! When you started simple rythms I did prefer the tuba BUT when you started those difficult fast ones I preffered the Quinto ! Iam not a drum expert but this is just my impression ! Thanks for uploading .
Very smooth transitions between singles/doubles and straight/dotted notes. I'm a drummer but I love playing percussion. I like having extra depth available if needed. I have a custom 5.5 x 16" stacked-shell walnut snare that's incredible. The difference here is subtle with computer speakers anyway but it's there. I can almost hear more difference in the high tone. It's much richer. I like both, but Conga. Thanks.
One or two of those lugs on the quinto is sharp, but these were surprising results to me. I'm thinking the heads are bound to be a variable in this as well. Imma go check this out on my steer heads. On a somewhat related note, I am thinking of adding a Gon Bops setup as a second set, and noticed they have the super tumba size which means each drum in a 4 drum set is uniquely sized. Do you double up congas or tumbas for a setup like yours? Thanks as always for the upload, my dude...
I think no matter what them skins make them both sound awesome. I love the conga but the quinto is a little bit more crisp. But I guess it's what you want to play with that day. Once again thank for the inspiration.
I may not know as much as you guys, but growing up, I always heard that the quinto is better in riffing in talking to other congas sound when having a conga jam session. Yes I'm from planet earth
great vid! I use a conga as main drum, then a tumbadora at my right side and quinto to my left side (I´m right handed) I use the quinto most of the time to play ostinatos (kind of "bata" style) if I´m space limited I switch to bongos instead of quinto. Gracias hermano!
Ever use two same sized congas tuned differently? Would you recommend? Looking at a nice vintage CP/matador 10.75”/11” though. Closer in size than normal
Both sounding great and loving your playing! The conga sounded clearer but I quite liked the open tones on the quinto. Bass tones really good on both. Difficult to really choose and I'm actually using a requinto as lead mainly due to having troubles with both my quintos! The requinto is a little cramped to play but I do get some good slap sounds on it, usually tuned to E, with conga just hanging on in there with warped rims as I can't seem to get it in tune with even tensions no matter what I try and Tumba developing undesirable overtones that a 'sticky foot' gel pad helps eliminate. The other slightly puzzling thing is that most pairs of congas on the market are requinto and quinto...
Hola pana, thanks for this. There is good science to explain why the 11.75” feels/sounds better at that frequency.. the shell is just well suited to sit at C. I also play an 11.75” for all your reasons, and also at C, because that’s where it belongs. The skin, a medium/thick steer, is sitting at the perfect tension to produce a full tone and deep bass, but also quick response and dynamic/overtones as your hands demand. Conversely, the 11”, all else being equal, is sitting a little too slack to give the same feedback to your hands/ears. Same skin, same wood, smaller diameter, should probably be more comfortable at D or D#... keep up the great work!
They are both pretty close, but to choose it would be the conga because of playing surface
I agree with the first person view , that the conga has a more depth in tunning. I also like to bring Quinto up when I am doing more lead when playing Rumba. It is a matter of preference and exploring what you want. Keep sharing Eric...!
Si Erick, continúa con este grandioso trabajo de informarnos sobre el maravilloso mundo de la conga. Saludos desde el norte de Morelos México.
So true. What a huge variable of rich tones followed w a gorgeous Bass. Beautiful drums, great skins, and awesome musician.🌷
Depending on the type of music, of course. Sometimes I use the Tumba as a main drum for the songs that are calm, jazzy, smooth and not loud alike, like bossanova or swing with brush drums companion. I play tumbao on the Tumba because it don't require bright or sharp slap sounds, but warm and mellow slap sounds with the low open tone, so the quinto and/or conga are secondary and play the open tones only. Cheers! ;)
one of the reasons I love your tutorials is because you never sound anxious, and always sounding relaxed and breathing normally. kudos
I loved the warmth the conga was giving off. I use a conga as well. Great video bruddah
I am close to 70 and am very old school I love the conga personally speaking, great vid chacho.
Well, with you playing, both Quinto and the Conga sounds great. It's like you said, it comes to a 'player's preference' . I love what I'm hearing!
Omg. Finally a comparison vid.
We’re thinking about starting out on these drums and wanted to not only know the differences but HEAR the differences and wondered why no one did a side-by-side comparison.
Great job! Muchas gracias !!
I am new on your channel, but have looked through it for a week & love it! I enjoy playing bongos & congas & you are the best teacher I have ever seen on TH-cam ever! I have a LP Giovanni galaxy requino & tumba & three LP Aspire congas & I have tuned them to sound like a set & amazed myself! I will switch to all giovanni galaxy congas when can afford.
Awesome vid Bro, well done! I guess I'm old school so I do prefer the quinto as my main, but like you said it is a preference thing. Anyway keep up the great work as always!
I come from a Go-Go background so I'm torn. IMHO, the open tones of the conga are noticeably warmer, richer, and fuller. With that said, the closed slaps of the quinto are subtly crisper with the open slaps about equal between both drums. My open slaps suck and I'm always amazed how pronounced yours and other percussionists achieve that level of crispness in open slaps.
Man in GoGo them high slaps are Major!!!! Makes sense to use a Quinto!! Right on bro!
Quinto has twangy sound versus the Conga,But sharper slaps that cut trough. But I always like to use 11.75 as my main choice. Thanks for the clarity.
You made them both sound good. I prefer conga for size and more balanced tone
Using the Q is a more dualistic sound - Q sits high and the two other drums act as an opposing grounding force. Using the conga is a more centered sound - balancing between higher and lower pitches. I personally like the pitch relationship of using the Q for a dominant high sitting above the mid/low pitch relationship vs using conga which is a dominant mid sitting between high/low pitch relationship.
Nice vid. I learned from a viejito growing up and was taght to use the quinto as my main. I love the sound it gives. I do eliminate unwanted overtones by putting a single 12"*12" tile of studio foam inside of my quinto. It just stays there. Works great and still projects perfect and great tone. Try it. Thanks.
What's up with the 1970s wood paneling on the Walls?
Hola como puedo comprar los cueros color brown que te vi con ellos es que tengo las congas Richie Gajate y se que le van a quedar brutal
What kind of Brand by the Skins???????
How many different sizes and names are there?
really liked the vid...and loved your "free foolin around" playing man..but i think its not a fair comparison..each drum (and skin) has a certain resonance point cause of its size ..so in the same tone the conga will always sound rich in tones and the quinto better with slaps..my opinion..still as you said is all about preference and of course the style of music you are playing..thanks for all your work and your vidz
I like slaps better on my quinto, too.
Another awesome video and amazing topic! And it’s crazy the difference 3/4 of an inch can make.
Great video! I personally love the additional bass and depth of the conga, and the slaps are thicker sounding as well! I couldn't see myself playing in a band with quinto, unless I absolutely had to.
I currently have a requinto, quinto and conga! I need to purchase a 12.5 tumba next!
You are extremely talented and sound good on both drums.
Sir I want to bye quinto with super quinto. From where can i get?
Hey Eric...thanks for this video, buddy. I love it when you do things like this! Just one question...the two heads are different shades. Does this mean they are different thicknesses, and of so, wouldn't they have different tones?
Thanks for a reply, and keep up the fantastic work!!
Great question!!! The thickness of the skin will definitely make a difference in the tone... The shade doesn't reflect the thickness... it "may" effect the tone... again "may", but not really... The skin I had on the Conga before was about the same thickness as this one and they give off just about the same tone... The quinto does have a slightly thinner skin but very slightly...
Thanks for the explanation, Eric. As always, you're the answer man for all of my conga questions!!
Your playing was awesome as usual. The conga sounded clearer than the quinto to me. I use a LP fiberglass galaxy requinto as a segundo. I find that LP drums run rather large so I use myLP Patato conga as a tumba after I tune it down.
I use an LP quito as my main drum, and a conga as my tumba as well. I just like the size of them both...it just feels comfortable.
Do i need three conga or two??
Hi. I preferred the tone of the conga. More character imho. TY. Your channel is new to me. Great instructions and demonstrations
Very interesting to listen! I hear that first time today! Greetings from Germany. Short time ago started with Bongos. Before played accordion in Germany for many tourists. Now as pensioner take time to learn other instruments!
I'm right handed and was always taught to position the "conga" on the right and "quinto" on to the left hand. This didn't feel right for years until I saw and heard 'Big Black' play opposite of that. I guess it's like playing a piano right?
Eric! My paps used to say ,(mijo el quinto es para requintear ) he was always right and if its fiberglass is even better sounds louder that's also true. My self i prefer 2 , 11.75 , one of them as my main another 11.75 conga on my left a 12 , on my right my 14 on center. They sound great. I hardly ever use the quinto. Unless is use as clave like you did in one of your tutorials. Thanks for comparation. Saludos
Cual es mejor para tocar salsa y cumbia ?
Queria saber si tambien la gente juega con una conga y un quinto a la vez . Gracias
¿Cómo se llama la aplicación?
Even though i stoped playing the Conga for reasons, i still love to learn about them. So this video makes me realy happy😁
Great Eric! Would you use a quinto as a main drum (center) if you play batá rhythms adapted to congas or other african 6/8 rhythms? You consider it is better to keep the highest drum in the center? And last question :) If you do not have a quinto but 2 congas and a tumba..Is it possible to tune one of the congas higher than the other to replace the quinto sound without affecting the conga/skin itself? Gracias!!
Hello I would like to know if you advise me to play with two conga or a Quinto plus a conga for salsa? thank you I love what you do.
Eric ,
I've only been trying to play for about two years with a quinto. After hearing both, I like the conga over the Quinto. The quinto appears to have a high pitch. Of course my opinion ! Thanks for the tuner App. ! I'm going try it this week.
I have no preference. New sub and I appreciate your joy! Thanks and Blessings!!!
Yeah I just switched over to the conga... Love the tone!!!
Hi ,what does that means C4 on Gongo play I did not get it, could you please explain?
were do you buy the head brown what web site
I use the quinto, but I really don't know what I'm doing. That's why I'm watching you. I'm just trying get the rhythms down cleanly. Thanks for sharing your talent.
Traditionally, players used small drums tuned lower in Cuba.
I get that. My detuned quinto sounds great for the tres golpes part. Might the quality of the skin but the slaps and muffles are too easy to articulate. If only i had 9,5inch quinto for the actual quinto part.
What is the song in the background?
I had a chance to buy 2 LP Durian tumbas. But I think it would be better to get different sizes or just tune them differently??
Wich is better to a beginer?
Something that I always use to Wonder
Thank U Sir!!
Eric I have a three drum kit of patatoe fiberglass 1976 version drums and I tune them to Quinto c conga g and tumba e what do you think.
Conga is, by far, the best for the marcha
I also love to use 11.75" Conga as my main drum compared to 11" Quinto because I love the body sound & the bass sound is so clear...
The overtone? If I'm playing modern songs (Pop, Rock), Quinto is the best especially if it's tuned in Eb...
If I'm playing Jazz or Ballad, I prefer Conga especially if it's tuned in C...
YESS!!!
Thank you for the video. What would be the best conga for capoeira vs Quinto or Conga? Thank you.
What heads are those?
Conga definitely !! Thanks
were you get the brown heads
Saludos. Cuál es el tamaño del quinto? Estoy empezando a tocar congas. Gracias
Saludos! Es 11”
Gracias
Love the content my brother. I alway felt the quinto gave a hardware-harmonic like sound, which is why always use as an accent drum if I'm playing by myself. But then again sometimes you gotta break ruttin and change it up so you wont get board. lol.
thise your ring and watch get damaged hen you play?
Hey! The ring is rubber and doesn’t cause any damage to my finger or the drum. And the watch as well... the band is rubber and because of my hand positioning is doesn’t bother... I take it off when I play for performances though
@@APercussionLife nice! my bad on the spelling.
love your chops bro
They both sound great, just different. If I was forced I'd pick the conga but the quinto certainly works.
Is that you playing in the background???
I love the the smaller drum but playing Bomba you need a bigger drum like a conga keep up the good work always learning thank you bro
Bro, do you have a video for the tones or keys to tune a quinto, conga, and tumba.....thanks !!!!
Eric quick question. Do you prefer using a Quinto or a Conga as your lead drum when playing funk music?
Still a conga due to the size for my hands but I crank it like a Quinto
@@APercussionLife Thank you a Bro, much appreciated!
esos parches? donde los consigues
Diego Bustillos Gomez De Buey www.manitopercussion.com
What’s do you use on the left and right of your main? Two tumbas Or quinto and tumba
What skin head are you using for both?
Dark Steer Skin from Manito Percussion
Nice dark color skins.
Thanks for the video ,now my question is most sets out there comes with quinto, conga,tumba, given you only have 1 tumba would you play on conga and tune quinto lower in A or B or would you play on the quinto ?
Great question... So yes I would still use the Conga as my main and tune the Quinto lower to be between the Tumba and Conga... and still tune the quinto in a B
Dude the sound was beautiful bro for both
Definitely! Conga 4 me. Versatility. Quinto suited for group playing or campana!
You are very talented
a nice pairing: requinto + super tumba. With thick natural steer.
What kind of skins are on those 🤔
Hola. Hace la misma comparación con los nuevos cueros sintéticos.
Conga provides a bit more low end for the bass notes. I'm like you, Eric, I prefer the conga if I'm playing a single drum.
If I were to play on just one drum and as a main drum I think I would also go with the Conga, but if you had to play say the tumbao? Would you be using a Conga and Tumba? Or what do you recommend?
I would personally choose a Conga 11.75”... because of the range and tone it’s able to give
Love the conga you're using in the videos (black skins). What brand are they?
Can u plz make a video about your life like how old are u or what’s u work on wher you are from
Your Awesome Bro. I do like the conga
I was recently given a refurbished Quinto that belonged to my dad Jerry Gonzalez 30 years ago. It was in his friend's storage for a long time. I am trying to become familiar with quinto sound.
I like both of them.
This is nuts but for now have to use a requinto as my main drum right now until I can get an LP Giovanni galaxy tumba & now waiting for a Quinto to come & have already a conga but I have to use it like a tumba until I can complete my LP Giovanni galaxy conga set! What you do when saving money!
So, if you only could have 4 drums, ignoring brand, what sizes would you play? Conga main and a set of three? Two tumbas and a quinto and conga main?
11.75” conga as main… 10” Quinto… and two 12.5” tumbas or what I currently have one 12.5” Tumba and 13” súper Tumba.
Ok I'm looking for clarification, they are both congas right? The Quinto is the highest, the tres dos is the middle, and the tumba is the lowest? So this video compares the high and middle pitched congas, and the tres dos is referred to as the conga? Thanks
Hi! What are the sizes for congas? how much size have quinto, conga and tumbadora? I thought it depends on the tuning and not so much the size...
Hello, where did you get your shekeres necklace this incredible !!
Very nice video ,,, Congratulations for your playing ! When you started simple rythms I did prefer the tuba BUT when you started those difficult fast ones I preffered the Quinto ! Iam not a drum expert but this is just my impression ! Thanks for uploading .
Very smooth transitions between singles/doubles and straight/dotted notes. I'm a drummer but I love playing percussion. I like having extra depth available if needed. I have a custom 5.5 x 16" stacked-shell walnut snare that's incredible. The difference here is subtle with computer speakers anyway but it's there. I can almost hear more difference in the high tone. It's much richer. I like both, but Conga. Thanks.
One or two of those lugs on the quinto is sharp, but these were surprising results to me. I'm thinking the heads are bound to be a variable in this as well. Imma go check this out on my steer heads. On a somewhat related note, I am thinking of adding a Gon Bops setup as a second set, and noticed they have the super tumba size which means each drum in a 4 drum set is uniquely sized. Do you double up congas or tumbas for a setup like yours? Thanks as always for the upload, my dude...
I normally double up on Tumbas.
Oh yeah!
It's crazy alright!😃🙏🏾
What's the name of the app you use for tunning? Thank you
I think no matter what them skins make them both sound awesome. I love the conga but the quinto is a little bit more crisp. But I guess it's what you want to play with that day. Once again thank for the inspiration.
I may not know as much as you guys, but growing up, I always heard that the quinto is better in riffing in talking to other congas sound when having a conga jam session. Yes I'm from planet earth
great vid! I use a conga as main drum, then a tumbadora at my right side and quinto to my left side (I´m right handed) I use the quinto most of the time to play ostinatos (kind of "bata" style) if I´m space limited I switch to bongos instead of quinto. Gracias hermano!
I all ways wanted to know that, great video and thanks!
I agree!
..conga if the only drum, however todays quinto has a larger head diameter than those of yesteryear?
Ever use two same sized congas tuned differently? Would you recommend? Looking at a nice vintage CP/matador 10.75”/11” though. Closer in size than normal
quinto and conga! know it now. Can you briefly explain the differences and features of tres dos and salidor? how different are they to quinto?
You are correct the conga has a nicer ring to it and smoother sound!
Great video!!!! Gracias
Both sounding great and loving your playing! The conga sounded clearer but I quite liked the open tones on the quinto. Bass tones really good on both. Difficult to really choose and I'm actually using a requinto as lead mainly due to having troubles with both my quintos! The requinto is a little cramped to play but I do get some good slap sounds on it, usually tuned to E, with conga just hanging on in there with warped rims as I can't seem to get it in tune with even tensions no matter what I try and Tumba developing undesirable overtones that a 'sticky foot' gel pad helps eliminate. The other slightly puzzling thing is that most pairs of congas on the market are requinto and quinto...