Iroha’s design may be based on an assassin. Throughout the story, she basically goes on a wild goose chase looking for Ui, with only her memories as proof. She silences any thing that might disprove UI’s existence. That which also fits her weapons, a knife and a crossbow, weapons that are easy to hide and silently take down opponents. Cuckoo’s are also terrible parents, leaving their eggs in nests of other birds. Iroha would no doubt feel awful about forgetting Ui and being helpless to help her. She left Ui in another nest, the hospital for the nurse to take care of her. The hat that Yachiyo dons is most likely a hat a mourner would wear, fitting her mourning of her lost friends. The lantern is most likely symbolic of Yachiyo thinking that she kill is anyone close to her to survive. Lanterns are to guide people to safety but the Doppel’s animation causes a storm and tsunami, like how Yachiyo drew people close but then killed them. Mifuyu’s design is mainly composed of greys, referring to being “morally grey” and being inoffensive and being indecisive. The fluff on her outfit might be referring to sheep, which reflects her wish to be free in her dreams with sheep being associated with sleep. With her doppel materializing from her tongue, this refers to Mifuyu’s charismatic nature and her feeling like she has no voice in her family. Geese are also incredibly loyal to each other like how Mifuyu inspires loyalty in new Magius members. Kuroe’s design is meant to be a reflection of Iroha, because she wanted to be like her, but wasn’t able to. Her design could also be another reflection of an assassin. Assassins, in order to get close to a target can either sink into the shadows (Becoming a witch) or can lie and get close to them (Kuroe feelings on her wish). Ichizo seems to have arms but no hands, possibly referring to Kuroe’s helplessness and self proclaimed pathetic nature.
Not fully related but- If you look at Iroha's design and then to the wings of magias uniform there's obvious similarities It can be assumed this was intentional when you consider the original purpose of UI, Nemu and Touka's wishes. To save Iroha After UI was erased and their connection to Iroha was cut that desire to save transferred to magical girls as a whole yet the cape persists. Possibly hinting at the idea that Touka, even after forgetting her, still wanted to save Iroha and now associates that familiarity with that design. Even when she forgot her, she still wanted to save her big sister
Something to note about doppels is that the older the girl, the more closely fused they tend to be to their doppels. Yachiyo and Mifuyu's doppels sprout from multiple parts of their bodies; Yachiyo's being her hands, ribs, left leg and scalp, and Mifuyu's being her tongue and hands. Magia Record introduced a new rule that magical girls' powers become weaker as they age, as they tend to be less emotional (as their power derives from their emotions) and are more likely to die in battle or succumbing to witchhood. The more fused a girl is to her doppel, the closer they are to being a witch, making sure every girl has an expiration date.
Campanella's "ticket puncher" design may also be tied to the phrase "getting your ticket punched" which can either mean "to die" or "to advance in status or experience" depending on the context. I feel like the first one fits yachio the best. Her previous team all died or witched out, In effect "having their tickets punched" and yachio's survivor guilt means she feels like she was the one who punched their tickets.
11:31 I actually see her outfit as pajamas or loungewear. Everything is so fluffy and comfortable and she did wish to "be free in her dreams". This also connects her to the night and by extension the moon. Thus, a crescent-shaped weapon makes sense. Same goes for her owl themes. Thus, her overall themes are the night, sleep, and dreams.
Makes kinda of sense. Mifuyu's outfit is actually a leotard with a gound like hood. Aoki Ume only said about her design of Mifuyu that she wanted to make her "fluffy" but elegant
A few things about Koroe's doople I want to mention : -It's completly black and has a yellow beak, it ressembels a baby cuckoo bird, and in the anime make a point to explain she doesn't feel like a 'true' magical girl like Iroha and struggle with Iroha's view of being hopefull views, it kind of shows she fells like an Impostor and shouldn't be a magical girl, like a cuckoo present as as another's bird baby to be feed. -The only 'human' part are a torse without hands, goes witht he 'helpless incapabable magical girl' theme - She's doesn't really seems to be flying, but just stading on a podium - in her witch lair she's following a bright light, it might just show she was trying to follow in Iroha's path, but never capable of doing so. But also tie to the stories mentioned.
Yeah the power thing does makes sense for Kuroe in the anime. She doesn't seem to be actually Iroha's best friend. Iroha only tries saves her because she was influenced of Kuroe's powers. This made more sense in that scene when Iroha attempted to boost Kuroe's morale only for it to backfire by making Kuroe to feel more miserable, further inducing her with transformation. It's because when Kuroe witness Irpha tryoing to save her and cheer her up, she just realized that all of it are probably "fake" because she was just unintentionally using her powers on her.
Exactly, Kuroe just unncounsly seeks atention with her power, we can even see that on the intro of Season 2 as she is in the center of the group and is seeing by every other main character at the end while in reality, she was just a side character that no one truly knows. We can see that at the end with the silouettes of the other characters she isn't near Iroha or the others, she is just aside Rena and Kaede, almost blending with the dark backgrond and far from the protagonism. Even as a witch she still seeks atention, she is pretending to fly to a star she can't reach, while everything in her backround seems as a beautiful star night she is an "ugly mud bird", but even she is still the most outstanding element in her barrier since she "can't be like other stars and is just a black star". And as far as Kuroe being Iroha's former best friend that's a lie too. We just saw them meet in episode 1. They barely know each other, Iroha's best friends were first Ui, Touka and Nemu, and then Yachiyo, Tsuruno, Sana, Felicia and MoReKa' Team (Momoko, Rena and Kaede).
14:33 actually Kuroe's power makes sense, since it reflects something about her personality in her wish, she desperly wants attention (in that case that boy's attention) but when she gets that attention she either ends up acting mean towards those she wanted that attention from or just starts to evade them ot evade her responsabilities, and that's why her nature as a witch/doppel is escapism. She wants to avoid those who are affected by her magic. Kuroe did this with her mother, her boyfriend and even Iroha, they cared about her and she just put them aside. This would also explain why Iroha seems to forget completly about Kuroe when she isn't around, as she is being affected by Kuroe's magic and she truly doesn't care about Kuroe, but is just being affected by her magic. Also we can see Kuroe's magic in the second opening (mainly the blue-ray one), as she is along side Iroha and Mikazuki Villa being in the center of everything and watched by the other main characters althought this isn't her story at all, it's theirs. Is funny if you think about it, since it seems her power even affects people outside the show since she clearly draws attention to the fans (althought is done through victimizing her).
Something I want to mention is that Iroha, Touka and Nemu's doppels look extremely similar with all three of them appearing from their hair and looking like birds
@@fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094iirc swallows and warblers are the two most common birds Cuckoos tend to have raise their chicks (cuckoos will leave their eggs in another nest and make another bird care for them)
Its nice to mention that Mifyu and Yachito have a dual form of their younger selves and in the transformation Mifuyu's ring blade turns into Yachiyo's soul gem and the other way around
I love how if you just watch the show it's all cool imagery but then we have interpretors like yourself who pretty much critically analysizes the entire structure of design and it's like, bang on which in turn goes to show how the designers and creators aren't just "creating cute designs that look cool" but instead basing and creating entire designs from an aspect from a story that thematically works. 10/10
This is something that I noticed, but I think that iroha is a combination between homera and madoka design wise. With a pink black and white in her design. And iroha has a similar silhouette to homera when she takes the cape off. Plus her weapon is on her wrist similar to homera And it being a bow like madoka. Also her hair is pink like madoka’s and it’s straight like homera plus she has braids like homera had in the past. (And I know it’s a stretch) but her reversing the effects of peoples body’s in order to slow down is similar to time travel.
She kinda is like a combination of Madoka and Homura. Althought design wise she is like Madoka, in theory she has more in common with Homura on her journey (althought has a more Madoka attitude at times). And also yes, her ability seems to be a combination of both Homura and Madoka's powers too. Before knowing her true power, even some fans said as joke that Iroha was kinda like Madoka and Homura's "daughter" (althought she is older than them). Iroha's Healing Reversion power is similar to Mallory from AHS, so she also has some kind of "Time" Magic in her.
Judgemental critter has no shortage of magical girl content when it comes to May thanks to Magia Record, haha. Doppels really are the best way to know a character, so I'm definitely going to deep dive into this myself.
13:34 Kuroe wasn't Iroha previous best friend, they barely met just once when they fought the same witch (in the first episode we saw when they just met and the day afterwards with both talking in the train). Iroha just really liked Kuroe after seeing her just twice (for some reason). Actually before knowing Mikazuki Villa (her team) Iroha didn't had true friends at all, just Ui, Touka and Nemu, she even says this in the game. It's even hinted in her game units that Kuroe has so much envy of Iroha because "both are similar" (they aren't tbh) but she can't be like her and that she actually hates her and wants Iroha to be death (in her swimsuit she is seen happy hinting that she drowned Iroha).
@@AlanArc yes, kinda. In Kuroe's Mizugi (Swimsuit) unit, it is hinted that Kuroe's happiness shown after her transformation is because she drowned Iroha (who actually can't swim and that's why she uses a Kyubey floater in her Swimsuit unit). In Kuroe's Swimsuit transformation she is taken by Iroha to the ocean, Kuroe seems unconfortable at first but after a big wave (that transformes Kuroe in magical Swimsuit outfit) Iroha is gone, just with her Kyubey floater around the water and Kuroe ends up her transformation and smiles to the camera. To my at least, it seems Kuroe deeply wants Iroha to die because of the envy she has towards her and in that transformation (probably inside her head) she drowns Iroha.
Iroha really liked kuroe immedeately because of her power. To "affirm her own existance" aka the same power that made her ex really like her and why she felt guilty about that fake relationship. And i guess that power is a passive aura that affects everyone around her. Kuroe also admires Iroha so in the last scenes of her and Iroha before she turns into a witch, when Iroha tries to give Kuroe hope, it didnt work cause Kuroe knows it's just her power.
@@flowerheart2054 kinda. Ui is meant to be the Happy Prince while all three of them; Iroha, Touka and Nemu are meant to be the swallow (or birds) "surronding" the Prince. But the three are still different types of birds: Iroha is a Cuckoo, Touka is a Swallow and Nemu is a Warbler
Something I noticed about Giovanna is that her face/beak looks like a plague doctor mask to me. Even Giovanna’s coat/cloak resembles the cloaks that plague doctors would wear. This plague doctor theme could be a warped version of Iroha’s healing ability. Since plague doctors never actually knew how to cure the Black Death, the plague doctor stuff might be referencing the fact Iroha doesn’t technically heal people, she just reverses their physical condition.
I'm so pleased to see you do more Madoka Magica content! The characters are all miles deep with lore and inspiration and it's great to see you delve into it all.
Also i think campanella also references yachio's view of herself as a magical girl. Campanella unlike most seen doppels has much darker colour scheme and the black hat with veil is also funeral wear, which makes sense considering she has constantly seen people around her die and even thought that her wish was why she got others killed as she thought her ability was to survive on other's expense. Also the scorpion also plays into this as she sees herself as this dangerous animal that must drive others away to not hurt them.
For Candy. I actually have a theory on who her magical girl could be. Let me introduce Rion Yuzuki. First, let’s take a look at her bio for a sec. It says “A magical girl with an extreme sister complex, she is incredibly possessive of her older twin sister. She treats anyone who approaches her sister as a nuisance. Her jealousy is what causes all of her anger. Even though she loves her sister so far, her expressions of love have become twisted, which leaves her running in circles. She worries that her older sister doesn't reciprocate her feelings.” It fit’s candies description very well. On top of that, look at her design on the magia wiki. It looks kinda what I think Candy would wear as a magical girl ( kinda). Lastly look at this quote from her memoria card. “The dolls listen to everything I say. They don’t complain, don’t oppose me, and of course they’re never suddenly disagreeable. They put on the clothes I choose, and I attach the accessories I choose.I wish everything could be the way I want.” I think that she became a witch when, ( spoiler warning for those who have not played the game.) Her sister Hotori died a second time. (Or maybe something involving her sister.) And it caused her to become a witch.
May i bring to the table: Jun Kazari. Not similar in terms of personality or design but the candy theme is 100% there. And these are all just theories anyway
Probably not super significant (for the theory and symbology you bring up in this video), but Iroha is similar to the Japanese word for color. Its her last name, Tamaki, that means ring. I wasn't aware of the parallels to the Galactic Railroad. Pretty cool to learn what very likely influenced the character/doppel designs.
Surprised you didn't mention the fully-fledged Campanella we see in episode 17. For part 7, I'd like to see the rest of the MR Holy Quintet and Kaede, Rena, and Momoko as well, since we see all their witch forms in that exact same episode.
I always thought Iroha’s Dopple was meant to resemble a plague Doctor mask since her ability was healing and her wish was to heal her sister. Granted I wasn’t aware of the novel inspiration (though I guess you could argue it adds to the bird symbolism since it resembles a bird beak), but it is cool to see just how much detail goes into these designs and symbols for these characters
I haven’t watched the show but I think a good case could be made for Mifuyu being that she witch who is always awake because it could be it’s afraid of falling asleep because it thinks that it’ll lose itself in its dreams plus someone else commented that the fluff on her is meant to be wool and I honestly think it’d be a fun direction for her
One group of characters i defiently would like to see discussed is the Neo-Magius, all of the main girls on that team have rly interesting characters to me that no one rly wants to discuss beyond calling them useless and i feel like we should give then a chance! Also disccussing Mifuyu and her actions in the story would be very cool as well, episcally her relationship with Yachiyo
In fact you could do seperate videos discussing all of the other Magical Girl teams and the girls on them that exist in part 2, all of them are pretty cool in their own ways
I will add, who "If you overuse your doppel, you will became a witch" is an anime-only thing, doppels in game and anime are well, slightly different mechanically, cuz for example I don't think Kyophelia is possible in anime version
I went back and rewatched every video on the playlist, and i had the idea that what if the natures of witches arent just personalities, but also could relate to how, and where they were, because some witches have natures arent personalities like with rebecca and her insomniac nature, it could be like a lifestyle, how or where they grew up too like a nature vs nurture type of deal?
10:35 personally I think its a bit more straightforward than that. Given the black colour of both the hat and the vail, Im thinking its more meant to be funeral-wear. Yachiyo believes she caused the death of her friends so her doppel dresses her up for a funeral, showcasing that Yachiyo believes that anyone who meets her is destined to die
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A MADOKA MAGICA RELATED VIDEO AAAAAH!!!!! Edit: Currently at 10:33 and might I just say, I've always been confused as to why water is so connected to Yachiyo. But after your explanation, I can rest at ease knowing why she is so connected to water (I used to think water had nothing to do with her, nor did I like that water was in her character concept). Edit 2: THIS VIDEO LITERALLY ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS. THE THEMES FOR EACH MAGICAL GIRL MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENSE.
Her symbolism is to be a representation of victimists and self-sabotage. She wants to change and "be better" not because she wants to improve, but because she seeks attention and aproval from others. Deep down Kuroe doesn't care for anyone but herself and actually doesn't want to change, thus she is embarrased by this, so she just wants to avoid the consecuences of her actions, thus her nature as Ichizo is "Escape" as she is constantly running away while at the same time wishes to be "a star that can be seen by others".
I just learned from watching Anime America's video that Kenji Miyazawa lost his younger sister to illness. His grief must've heavily inspired him when working on Night on the Galactic Railroad. This sorta ties in with Iroha and Ui.
Great video with a lot of refferences!! Just wanted to point out something about Yachiho's dopple: the hat might be a refference to the book, yes, but the hat is black with a black veil, what is very comon to represent WIDOWS. And makes total sense to me that Yachiho's witch form woukd have elements of a widow, cause that's exactly what seems to trigger her the most: the lost of her friends in exchange of her survival. The entire plot og Yachiho is about that.
I think doppels exist because ultimate Madoka does exist at this point, but a barrier is blocking her from the city so I think it’s her still existing but not being able to reach the girls create a contradiction in the universe, which makes these half witch half magical girl hybrids because the universe doesn’t know what else to do for lack of better words. I’m really really bad to explaining this😅
I would love a video talking about the most interesting witchs/magical girls. Like Isabeau, the second oldest magical girl ever, Livia Medeiro, the fisrt known coordinator that use the "void magic", or Mikoto Sena the magical that becomes "The mirror witch" in magia Record. I loved the video, saludos desde Argentina ❤
@@AlanArc yes, her wish was "i want to become evil itself", so now whenever she does something for someone else's sake or happiness, something bad will happen to that person.
Love the whole serious and your channel. Hope the new movie comes out soon. Imagine the battle that's to come with God Madoka and Demon Homura ? Anyways keep up the great work and happy your back 😊 🎉❤🌙✨️⭐️
And that she also needs to talk about Karin, Mitama and Kanagi. They are also main characters (although the anime cut their partitipations to give all atention to Kuroe).
10:25 while I do think that could be the case. I tthink its quite a bit more simple: its something you'd wear at a funeral. Yachiyo believes she kills anyone who gets close so her doppel gives her partial funeral attire
Gonna make a commentary on some parts of the video to add my own interpretation to your works: Iroha - Beyond the "keeping your magical girl activity" a secret (which is a given to all magical girls), I think the rogue theme do work for Iroha because she's a shy and quiet character (at the beginning of the story that is), and it's even more fitting when you consider that Iroha, in the anime, has her hood on at the beginning, but then she no longer has it on when she gains confidence and determination. It also works well with her whole thematic of her Doppel who hides what Iroha doesn't want to see or is too afraid to acknowledge (which plays a big role in the last few episodes of the anime and even in some bits of the gacha game), like when she was looking for Ui, she never thought about her potentially being dead, or even completely denies the possibility of her being a fake memory implanted in her mind like Mitama said. Yachiyo - There's also a tie to the tale "The Scorpion and the Frog" that could be made with Yachiyo, not only because of her Doppel but also because of her beliefs that her wish was the cause of Mel and Kanae's death, even though she never meant it (like the Scorpion who killed the frog halfway into the pond despite promising he wouldn't, and even though he knew it'll doom them both, because it was in its nature to sting). I'm also surprised you didn't mentioned Yachiyo's witch silhouette we see in the anime, when Iroha explained what she was dreaming about when stuck in her Doppel World before Yachiyo and Kuroe came to the rescue. Mifuyu - I like to believe that her outfit, or her "vest" at least, represent a sort of pyjamas clothing, like it's very comfortable and fluffy, and she doesn't wear much beneath it. The sugar geese being "sugar" could also ties with her indulging herself in her dreams where she's free from everything (in theory), with the whole "sweet dreams", "sugarcoating things" and all that. Kuroe - Ok I have some stuff to say because I feel like a few details were missed: 1) Her inherent ability is "Affirmation of Existence", which is said to attract the attention of those around her. The building wall powers only seems to be a second power she develops like how Kyoko develops her own powers after she lost her inherent magic. I also believe there's no real differences between anime and gacha magic, because the Mami, Kyoko and Sayaka all keep their skills and such in any depiction, with no differences from one another. 2) [This interpretation is only based on what I've seen from the anime and not the gacha] While I do agree with Kuroe's characterization, I do believe she doesn't fail at saving people, but her whole reason for being/feeling weak and depressed is because she feels like she fails as being a magical girl. For example: she choose not to help Kuro in the anime and leaves her like that, and we don't even know if she died or witched out. She joined the Wings of Magius for magical girls to be saved ... but soon betrays them when she finds Iroha. What ultimately strike her down is how miserable she feels as a magical girl because of the repeated failures she went trought, and that's why even with Iroha's speech, she witches out (and it's even the last push up to her downfall): she's tired of being a failure of a magical girl that cannot save and must be constantly saved by someone.
Kuroe didn't loose her magical power of Affirmation of Existence, she still keeps that power in the whole show. That's why Nemu chooses her to look for Iroha from all those black feathers and that's why Iroha looses interest in Ui, Touka and Nemu while Kuroe is around her, she basiclly makes people focus just on her and forget about others while she is literally no one to them (again, she and Iroha weren't friends they just talked twice before meeting again). Also this might explain why she is forgotten when she isn't around, since people only seem to acknowledge her when she is seen because her magic is making people minds focus on her.
@@fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094 I never said Kuroe lost her powers, I said the wall building magic was like her second magic, JUST LIKE Kyoko's second magic she uses in the anime since she lost her illusion magic
I think Kuroe’s power , “Affirmation of Existence” means she exists constantly throughout the timelines. She’s one of , if not THE only girls who carries over.
Fun(Or.... Actually not Fun) Fact : If you see Kuroe's witch Ichizo, it's like she is flying up to the bright blue star. It represents Iroha, the brightest star Kuroe wanted to be. Unfortunately, as you know that the witches can't achieve their desire in their barrier, Ichizo could never reach up to that flashing star. P.S : To let Kuroe rest in peace, Iroha uses her magic to make a dagger to defeat Ichizo Kuroe. During that scene, the dagger also flashes brightly like a star, which directly represents that Iroha is the brighest star Kuroe was admiring. Seriously Kuroe doesn't deserve this ending.....
Thankfully, the game went on with its own take on Kuroe where she's able to find that hope she used to have. I think my problem with Kuroe (and this is a problem with the anime's handling of the characters in general), is that she's not exactly a character on her own and comes off more like a plot device for Iroha's narrative. And I'm glad the game fleshes out Kuroe way more, like her MGS giving us her full backstory for the anime, including her first meeting with Iroha. The Little Bird's Star event giving us her game scenario where she never met Iroha until way after joining the Wings of Magius. And they're all so well-written and really gives Kuroe's character the exploration it really needed.
Covering the differences the anime decided to make in it's ending, why you think they did it, and if it was a good idea or not plus the over all hidden meanings could be fun
I seen awhile ago a theory that the reason Irohas Doppel wants to hide from reality is because it doesn’t want to the face the reality of being a magical girl, aka the death and suffering that comes along with being a magical girl and that’s why Spoiler warning: kuroes death was so important. Because it made her have to face the reality that being a magical girl isn’t as good as she wants it to be. The theory also tied some things related to this back to ui but I’m just summarizing.
11:36 I always thought that Mifuyu's outfit was based of a sheep. Kinda like counting sheep before you sleep Or maybe it was based on pj's or something.
I really appreciated this because I had no idea that the witches/doppels had this much thought put into them this time around. I feel the witches in Madoka Magica have kind of been talked about at nauseum tbh so I was really fascinated to learn the intent behind these ones. I also thought Kuroe was a pointless character but now I see a lot more love was put into her than I thought
Tbh Kuroe was kinda pointless and a waste of character (mainly in screentime, the other characters that were cut had more much deept). She was just made by InuCurry to get killed and to be victimized. Althought it's interesting to see references and symbolism to her victimistic nature. 😅
@@sushigivesmelife2131 yeah, althought she doesn't add up to. She is just there, victimizing herself and taking screentime of actual main characters. 😅
you forgot a detail,giovanna mask look like a plague medic,making a link between her healing power but showing that are misundertood, just like plague doctor misundertood the plague.
Man, Yachiyo is my favorite character in the entire series. Her development in both game and anime is really good. I think Final Season dropped the ball on her a little though...It didn't make sense for her to leave Mifuyu behind like that. And Kuroe's tragedy was that she could have been saved if only she had met Iroha at a different time. And I like how the game went with this and gave Kuroe a different path to grow into.
An interesting little tid bit I noticed here 14:07 , but the top of Iroha’s has the wrapped looking part and on the bottom of the girl on the left she has a sort of wrapping part forming the top of her skirt.
@@JamieMieLi Yup! I think it's confirmed by an event between arcs, when Nemu is in a wheelchair? And the again in Arc 2, when a member of Neo Magius uses her doppel too much and is hospitalized.
You're pronouncement of Iroha hurts me so much It's "Eee-ro-ha" not "Aye-ro-ha" XD Otherwise, excellent video! Love seeing you talk more about PMMM. It's interesting how I do _like_ Magia Record, but it doesn't quite _click_ with me 100%. I think it's mostly because of how it raises so many questions about the worldbuilding, the overwhelming number of characters, and Homura's jaunts through time, but I'm not also wondering if it's compounded by the inspiration. I didn't know about Night on the Galactic Railroad before this video, and I think having a strong concept of Faust made the original so much easier to digest for a westerner like me. All the same, it's good to see the level of thought put into the original series is still on full display here. Magia Record felt like an unnecessary spin-off to me when it released, a Gacha-tie-in promotional series, but the writers really made it work well after I gave it a second chance, even with my gripes. Definitely noticed the bird theme going on but you really put it all together. Great vid!
I really am curious about Sana, becasue the whole thing with her backstory leaves a lot of potential for her that i dont feel the anime really tapped into
3:36 Is this true?! If so can someone link me to a source where she says this, because dam that's a big surprise to me. Did Aokiume mention anything else about the story??
Actually, Ume designed Iroha without knowing she was going to be the main focused character (they just asked her to design most of the important characters but she didn't know who was the main character), but after knowing Iroha was going to be the main character she changed her weapon (originally she designed Iroha with a dagger as a weapon, in the game she doesn't have that weapon).
@@fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094 ahh! Thank you so much, That makes a lot more sense! I've seen the concept art of her dagger, I just thought it was an extra thing Aokiume added
If you want to experience the madoka magica portable game there is a translation that is around 80% done and is expected to be finished this summer, the gameplay is not very good but there is a theme of bond forming between all the members of the quintet and you go on little dates in between labyrinths to make their affection go up and it’s really cute and neat. If u don’t have a psvita there it is also possible to emulate it
Can a witch be happy? I know they usually for from stress but don't they also form if you die or your gem gets destroyed? What is the magical girl gets attacked and doesn't relies it in the middle of doing what she loved? Then wouldn't her witch reflect that?
Technically a black hole is a black star as it's the end result of a star's death. Just like how kuroe died to become a witch, so too does a star die and become a black hole, sucking in everything around it.
There’s a lot of newer, magical girls that came out to you a lot of them. It’s impossible to cover all of them. But I wish you the best of luck. I made the dreams fly high, wherever you go.❤❤❤
Could you look into some of the other in the anime like the 3 young girls / friends A beeper look at them Or the others. I love these videos (As I’m typing this you mention doing it)
Well we have like six magical girls in Magia Record related to the Moon: -Yachiyo -Mifuyu - Tsukuyo and Tsukasa -Masara Kagami (a side character) -Hotaru Yura (another side character)
It's kinda sad that seconds before Kuroe turns into a witch she says "i can go back before i met you" to Iroha wich basically means "i regret ever meeting you, it's all your fault"
14:35 I’ve watched the anime before, and I feel like that it’s similar to a powerful Matesi, forget me, not see, forget me, not lives in a state where people look at him. Remember everything about blessings they look away they forget him. I think that’s similar to Currys power. It’s that when people knew her day, notice her, they pay attention to her they comfort her what is seriously look away play me a Lyft does even proof of that happens to eat her eyes talking to her hiding with her, but is soon as they look awayAnd they don’t even talk about her. I was like she didn’t exist. Not only that Kevin was my moment where you where era introduces herself multiple times, like that she didn’t remember her because of that I feel like that her ability is similar to that when people notice her they are able to chat for refuse they look away, they forget about her
Mmm kind of. She fused with Ui, Touka, Nemu and Mini-Kyubey to turn into the APS (Auto Purification System) concept. But still, she has her physical body and still could turn into a witch or get killed.
I think a way in which Giovanna references Iroha’s “healing” abilities is that it somewhat resembles a Plague Doctor
I see it kinda. I think it plays more into the silence aspect as the beak is wrapped up, making it so Giovanna cant actually cry out
Iroha’s design may be based on an assassin. Throughout the story, she basically goes on a wild goose chase looking for Ui, with only her memories as proof. She silences any thing that might disprove UI’s existence. That which also fits her weapons, a knife and a crossbow, weapons that are easy to hide and silently take down opponents. Cuckoo’s are also terrible parents, leaving their eggs in nests of other birds. Iroha would no doubt feel awful about forgetting Ui and being helpless to help her. She left Ui in another nest, the hospital for the nurse to take care of her.
The hat that Yachiyo dons is most likely a hat a mourner would wear, fitting her mourning of her lost friends. The lantern is most likely symbolic of Yachiyo thinking that she kill is anyone close to her to survive. Lanterns are to guide people to safety but the Doppel’s animation causes a storm and tsunami, like how Yachiyo drew people close but then killed them.
Mifuyu’s design is mainly composed of greys, referring to being “morally grey” and being inoffensive and being indecisive. The fluff on her outfit might be referring to sheep, which reflects her wish to be free in her dreams with sheep being associated with sleep. With her doppel materializing from her tongue, this refers to Mifuyu’s charismatic nature and her feeling like she has no voice in her family. Geese are also incredibly loyal to each other like how Mifuyu inspires loyalty in new Magius members.
Kuroe’s design is meant to be a reflection of Iroha, because she wanted to be like her, but wasn’t able to. Her design could also be another reflection of an assassin. Assassins, in order to get close to a target can either sink into the shadows (Becoming a witch) or can lie and get close to them (Kuroe feelings on her wish). Ichizo seems to have arms but no hands, possibly referring to Kuroe’s helplessness and self proclaimed pathetic nature.
Iroha's doppel also looks like a plague doctor to tie her connection with healing
Not fully related but-
If you look at Iroha's design and then to the wings of magias uniform there's obvious similarities
It can be assumed this was intentional when you consider the original purpose of UI, Nemu and Touka's wishes.
To save Iroha
After UI was erased and their connection to Iroha was cut that desire to save transferred to magical girls as a whole yet the cape persists.
Possibly hinting at the idea that Touka, even after forgetting her, still wanted to save Iroha and now associates that familiarity with that design.
Even when she forgot her, she still wanted to save her big sister
Something to note about doppels is that the older the girl, the more closely fused they tend to be to their doppels.
Yachiyo and Mifuyu's doppels sprout from multiple parts of their bodies; Yachiyo's being her hands, ribs, left leg and scalp, and Mifuyu's being her tongue and hands. Magia Record introduced a new rule that magical girls' powers become weaker as they age, as they tend to be less emotional (as their power derives from their emotions) and are more likely to die in battle or succumbing to witchhood. The more fused a girl is to her doppel, the closer they are to being a witch, making sure every girl has an expiration date.
Campanella's "ticket puncher" design may also be tied to the phrase "getting your ticket punched" which can either mean "to die" or "to advance in status or experience" depending on the context. I feel like the first one fits yachio the best. Her previous team all died or witched out, In effect "having their tickets punched" and yachio's survivor guilt means she feels like she was the one who punched their tickets.
11:31 I actually see her outfit as pajamas or loungewear. Everything is so fluffy and comfortable and she did wish to "be free in her dreams". This also connects her to the night and by extension the moon. Thus, a crescent-shaped weapon makes sense. Same goes for her owl themes. Thus, her overall themes are the night, sleep, and dreams.
Makes kinda of sense. Mifuyu's outfit is actually a leotard with a gound like hood. Aoki Ume only said about her design of Mifuyu that she wanted to make her "fluffy" but elegant
The coat tails even resemble two night caps
A few things about Koroe's doople I want to mention :
-It's completly black and has a yellow beak, it ressembels a baby cuckoo bird, and in the anime make a point to explain she doesn't feel like a 'true' magical girl like Iroha and struggle with Iroha's view of being hopefull views, it kind of shows she fells like an Impostor and shouldn't be a magical girl, like a cuckoo present as as another's bird baby to be feed.
-The only 'human' part are a torse without hands, goes witht he 'helpless incapabable magical girl' theme
- She's doesn't really seems to be flying, but just stading on a podium
- in her witch lair she's following a bright light, it might just show she was trying to follow in Iroha's path, but never capable of doing so. But also tie to the stories mentioned.
Yeah the power thing does makes sense for Kuroe in the anime. She doesn't seem to be actually Iroha's best friend. Iroha only tries saves her because she was influenced of Kuroe's powers. This made more sense in that scene when Iroha attempted to boost Kuroe's morale only for it to backfire by making Kuroe to feel more miserable, further inducing her with transformation. It's because when Kuroe witness Irpha tryoing to save her and cheer her up, she just realized that all of it are probably "fake" because she was just unintentionally using her powers on her.
Exactly, Kuroe just unncounsly seeks atention with her power, we can even see that on the intro of Season 2 as she is in the center of the group and is seeing by every other main character at the end while in reality, she was just a side character that no one truly knows. We can see that at the end with the silouettes of the other characters she isn't near Iroha or the others, she is just aside Rena and Kaede, almost blending with the dark backgrond and far from the protagonism.
Even as a witch she still seeks atention, she is pretending to fly to a star she can't reach, while everything in her backround seems as a beautiful star night she is an "ugly mud bird", but even she is still the most outstanding element in her barrier since she "can't be like other stars and is just a black star".
And as far as Kuroe being Iroha's former best friend that's a lie too. We just saw them meet in episode 1. They barely know each other, Iroha's best friends were first Ui, Touka and Nemu, and then Yachiyo, Tsuruno, Sana, Felicia and MoReKa' Team (Momoko, Rena and Kaede).
14:33 actually Kuroe's power makes sense, since it reflects something about her personality in her wish, she desperly wants attention (in that case that boy's attention) but when she gets that attention she either ends up acting mean towards those she wanted that attention from or just starts to evade them ot evade her responsabilities, and that's why her nature as a witch/doppel is escapism. She wants to avoid those who are affected by her magic.
Kuroe did this with her mother, her boyfriend and even Iroha, they cared about her and she just put them aside. This would also explain why Iroha seems to forget completly about Kuroe when she isn't around, as she is being affected by Kuroe's magic and she truly doesn't care about Kuroe, but is just being affected by her magic. Also we can see Kuroe's magic in the second opening (mainly the blue-ray one), as she is along side Iroha and Mikazuki Villa being in the center of everything and watched by the other main characters althought this isn't her story at all, it's theirs.
Is funny if you think about it, since it seems her power even affects people outside the show since she clearly draws attention to the fans (althought is done through victimizing her).
Something I want to mention is that Iroha, Touka and Nemu's doppels look extremely similar with all three of them appearing from their hair and looking like birds
Is curious!
Iroha is a Cuckoo, Touka is a Swallow and Nemu is a Warbler.
They said that in the video
That’s literally in the video
@@fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094iirc swallows and warblers are the two most common birds Cuckoos tend to have raise their chicks (cuckoos will leave their eggs in another nest and make another bird care for them)
In the book, it’s explained that it is due to that they all are because of Iroha being the reason they become megukas
Its nice to mention that Mifyu and Yachito have a dual form of their younger selves and in the transformation Mifuyu's ring blade turns into Yachiyo's soul gem and the other way around
i don't know if anyone has pointed this out but iroha's belt looks like a train ticket. not important but it still ties into the story.
I'm pretty sure Mifuyu's outfit is supposed to evoke a rabbit because of her shared moon motif with Yachiyo :)
Mifuyu's outfit is interesting. It's described to be a leotard and Aoki Ume said she designed Mifuyu to be "fluffy but elegant" at the same time.
Oh like the legend of the moon rabbit in japan, china and korea
With Iroha/ Giovanna you could argue that they also resemble a masked doctor a person who was meant to heal
I love how if you just watch the show it's all cool imagery but then we have interpretors like yourself who pretty much critically analysizes the entire structure of design and it's like, bang on which in turn goes to show how the designers and creators aren't just "creating cute designs that look cool" but instead basing and creating entire designs from an aspect from a story that thematically works. 10/10
This is something that I noticed, but I think that iroha is a combination between homera and madoka design wise. With a pink black and white in her design. And iroha has a similar silhouette to homera when she takes the cape off. Plus her weapon is on her wrist similar to homera And it being a bow like madoka. Also her hair is pink like madoka’s and it’s straight like homera plus she has braids like homera had in the past. (And I know it’s a stretch) but her reversing the effects of peoples body’s in order to slow down is similar to time travel.
She kinda is like a combination of Madoka and Homura. Althought design wise she is like Madoka, in theory she has more in common with Homura on her journey (althought has a more Madoka attitude at times). And also yes, her ability seems to be a combination of both Homura and Madoka's powers too.
Before knowing her true power, even some fans said as joke that Iroha was kinda like Madoka and Homura's "daughter" (althought she is older than them). Iroha's Healing Reversion power is similar to Mallory from AHS, so she also has some kind of "Time" Magic in her.
Judgemental critter has no shortage of magical girl content when it comes to May thanks to Magia Record, haha.
Doppels really are the best way to know a character, so I'm definitely going to deep dive into this myself.
Oh but where exactly:3?
13:34 Kuroe wasn't Iroha previous best friend, they barely met just once when they fought the same witch (in the first episode we saw when they just met and the day afterwards with both talking in the train). Iroha just really liked Kuroe after seeing her just twice (for some reason). Actually before knowing Mikazuki Villa (her team) Iroha didn't had true friends at all, just Ui, Touka and Nemu, she even says this in the game. It's even hinted in her game units that Kuroe has so much envy of Iroha because "both are similar" (they aren't tbh) but she can't be like her and that she actually hates her and wants Iroha to be death (in her swimsuit she is seen happy hinting that she drowned Iroha).
What? Drowned iroha... 😧
@@AlanArc yes, kinda. In Kuroe's Mizugi (Swimsuit) unit, it is hinted that Kuroe's happiness shown after her transformation is because she drowned Iroha (who actually can't swim and that's why she uses a Kyubey floater in her Swimsuit unit).
In Kuroe's Swimsuit transformation she is taken by Iroha to the ocean, Kuroe seems unconfortable at first but after a big wave (that transformes Kuroe in magical Swimsuit outfit) Iroha is gone, just with her Kyubey floater around the water and Kuroe ends up her transformation and smiles to the camera. To my at least, it seems Kuroe deeply wants Iroha to die because of the envy she has towards her and in that transformation (probably inside her head) she drowns Iroha.
@@fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094 ... What the hell... I didn't even realize this 💀
Iroha really liked kuroe immedeately because of her power. To "affirm her own existance" aka the same power that made her ex really like her and why she felt guilty about that fake relationship. And i guess that power is a passive aura that affects everyone around her.
Kuroe also admires Iroha so in the last scenes of her and Iroha before she turns into a witch, when Iroha tries to give Kuroe hope, it didnt work cause Kuroe knows it's just her power.
@@djneonreaper4990 ... Okay that's it... This Show really way dark than i thought...🚶
Has anyone else noticed how Giovanna Looks a bit like Candy?
The ears, the colour scheme, etc.
That's because part of Giovanna is based on a bunny, along side a cuckoo, a plague doctor and a saint.
I never realized that those two novels influenced so much on those four girls!! I’m so excited what else you have to say about them!
There's actually another novel that influenced Magia Record and that is The Happy Prince of Oscar Wild. 👀
@@fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094 Does this means that Iroha is not only a cuckoo, but also a swallow? Since Ui is happy prince statue
@@flowerheart2054 kinda. Ui is meant to be the Happy Prince while all three of them; Iroha, Touka and Nemu are meant to be the swallow (or birds) "surronding" the Prince. But the three are still different types of birds: Iroha is a Cuckoo, Touka is a Swallow and Nemu is a Warbler
Something I noticed about Giovanna is that her face/beak looks like a plague doctor mask to me. Even Giovanna’s coat/cloak resembles the cloaks that plague doctors would wear. This plague doctor theme could be a warped version of Iroha’s healing ability. Since plague doctors never actually knew how to cure the Black Death, the plague doctor stuff might be referencing the fact Iroha doesn’t technically heal people, she just reverses their physical condition.
And when the ribbon on her beak is gone, Giovanna is starting to get wild and fierce towards anyone
Knowing that 'we' or someone disturb her silence
I'm so pleased to see you do more Madoka Magica content! The characters are all miles deep with lore and inspiration and it's great to see you delve into it all.
This is a pleasant surprise considering I just finished the final episode of Magia Record
You said that Geovanna didn't reference Iroha's healing powers, but I thought the bandages where clear medical imagery.
It does. According to InuCurry's notes Giovanna is based on a doctor plague, a cuckoo, a bunny and a saint.
Making my dad watch madoka magica
Before the twist: He’ll question your tastes
After the twist: He’ll question them even more
Also i think campanella also references yachio's view of herself as a magical girl.
Campanella unlike most seen doppels has much darker colour scheme and the black hat with veil is also funeral wear, which makes sense considering she has constantly seen people around her die and even thought that her wish was why she got others killed as she thought her ability was to survive on other's expense.
Also the scorpion also plays into this as she sees herself as this dangerous animal that must drive others away to not hurt them.
For Candy. I actually have a theory on who her magical girl could be. Let me introduce Rion Yuzuki. First, let’s take a look at her bio for a sec. It says “A magical girl with an extreme sister complex, she is incredibly possessive of her older twin sister. She treats anyone who approaches her sister as a nuisance. Her jealousy is what causes all of her anger. Even though she loves her sister so far, her expressions of love have become twisted, which leaves her running in circles. She worries that her older sister doesn't reciprocate her feelings.” It fit’s candies description very well. On top of that, look at her design on the magia wiki. It looks kinda what I think Candy would wear as a magical girl ( kinda). Lastly look at this quote from her memoria card. “The dolls listen to everything I say.
They don’t complain, don’t oppose me, and of course they’re never suddenly disagreeable. They put on the clothes I choose, and I attach the accessories I choose.I wish everything could be the way I want.” I think that she became a witch when, ( spoiler warning for those who have not played the game.) Her sister Hotori died a second time. (Or maybe something involving her sister.) And it caused her to become a witch.
Ooh I love your theory!!!! It very interesting!!
And I think it makes perfect sense!!!
Saddly, Rion can't be Candy, as she made her contract after the events of Magia Record Arc 1 and Candy already existed...
May i bring to the table:
Jun Kazari.
Not similar in terms of personality or design but the candy theme is 100% there. And these are all just theories anyway
@@djneonreaper4990 oh my gosh
I love sitting down with a vodka flask and watching your madoka magica videos , its the highlight of my week 😭 so glad you made another video on it!
a little fun fact is that iroha mention the book in the “stardusk mirage” event
Probably not super significant (for the theory and symbology you bring up in this video), but Iroha is similar to the Japanese word for color. Its her last name, Tamaki, that means ring. I wasn't aware of the parallels to the Galactic Railroad. Pretty cool to learn what very likely influenced the character/doppel designs.
Surprised you didn't mention the fully-fledged Campanella we see in episode 17. For part 7, I'd like to see the rest of the MR Holy Quintet and Kaede, Rena, and Momoko as well, since we see all their witch forms in that exact same episode.
I always thought Iroha’s Dopple was meant to resemble a plague Doctor mask since her ability was healing and her wish was to heal her sister. Granted I wasn’t aware of the novel inspiration (though I guess you could argue it adds to the bird symbolism since it resembles a bird beak), but it is cool to see just how much detail goes into these designs and symbols for these characters
I haven’t watched the show but I think a good case could be made for Mifuyu being that she witch who is always awake because it could be it’s afraid of falling asleep because it thinks that it’ll lose itself in its dreams plus someone else commented that the fluff on her is meant to be wool and I honestly think it’d be a fun direction for her
One group of characters i defiently would like to see discussed is the Neo-Magius, all of the main girls on that team have rly interesting characters to me that no one rly wants to discuss beyond calling them useless and i feel like we should give then a chance! Also disccussing Mifuyu and her actions in the story would be very cool as well, episcally her relationship with Yachiyo
In fact you could do seperate videos discussing all of the other Magical Girl teams and the girls on them that exist in part 2, all of them are pretty cool in their own ways
All the factions of Arc 2 are really interesting tbh. I think my favs have to be Folklore of Zero.
I will add, who "If you overuse your doppel, you will became a witch" is an anime-only thing, doppels in game and anime are well, slightly different mechanically, cuz for example I don't think Kyophelia is possible in anime version
I went back and rewatched every video on the playlist, and i had the idea that what if the natures of witches arent just personalities, but also could relate to how, and where they were, because some witches have natures arent personalities like with rebecca and her insomniac nature, it could be like a lifestyle, how or where they grew up too like a nature vs nurture type of deal?
It's all birds all the way down!!!
On another note now I would love to see Crittwr make a video talking about Night on the Galactic Railroad itself
10:35 personally I think its a bit more straightforward than that. Given the black colour of both the hat and the vail, Im thinking its more meant to be funeral-wear. Yachiyo believes she caused the death of her friends so her doppel dresses her up for a funeral, showcasing that Yachiyo believes that anyone who meets her is destined to die
yo babe,wake up, The judgmental critter posted a new madoka magica video
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A MADOKA MAGICA RELATED VIDEO AAAAAH!!!!!
Edit: Currently at 10:33 and might I just say, I've always been confused as to why water is so connected to Yachiyo. But after your explanation, I can rest at ease knowing why she is so connected to water (I used to think water had nothing to do with her, nor did I like that water was in her character concept).
Edit 2: THIS VIDEO LITERALLY ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS. THE THEMES FOR EACH MAGICAL GIRL MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENSE.
I adore this little series you have going it’s like my favourite thing ever
omg im so glad to finally get someone explain kuroe, ive always been so confused on her symbolism
Her symbolism is to be a representation of victimists and self-sabotage. She wants to change and "be better" not because she wants to improve, but because she seeks attention and aproval from others.
Deep down Kuroe doesn't care for anyone but herself and actually doesn't want to change, thus she is embarrased by this, so she just wants to avoid the consecuences of her actions, thus her nature as Ichizo is "Escape" as she is constantly running away while at the same time wishes to be "a star that can be seen by others".
I just learned from watching Anime America's video that Kenji Miyazawa lost his younger sister to illness. His grief must've heavily inspired him when working on Night on the Galactic Railroad. This sorta ties in with Iroha and Ui.
I can’t wait for the next episode.
Great video with a lot of refferences!! Just wanted to point out something about Yachiho's dopple: the hat might be a refference to the book, yes, but the hat is black with a black veil, what is very comon to represent WIDOWS. And makes total sense to me that Yachiho's witch form woukd have elements of a widow, cause that's exactly what seems to trigger her the most: the lost of her friends in exchange of her survival. The entire plot og Yachiho is about that.
I think doppels exist because ultimate Madoka does exist at this point, but a barrier is blocking her from the city so I think it’s her still existing but not being able to reach the girls create a contradiction in the universe, which makes these half witch half magical girl hybrids because the universe doesn’t know what else to do for lack of better words. I’m really really bad to explaining this😅
I would love a video talking about the most interesting witchs/magical girls. Like Isabeau, the second oldest magical girl ever, Livia Medeiro, the fisrt known coordinator that use the "void magic", or Mikoto Sena the magical that becomes "The mirror witch" in magia Record.
I loved the video, saludos desde Argentina ❤
Uhh are we already got some information about Livia's wish?
@@AlanArc yes, her wish was "i want to become evil itself", so now whenever she does something for someone else's sake or happiness, something bad will happen to that person.
@@nicolas2452 No wonder why, her Doppel is look like a tree....
It's kinda scary... No IT IS SCARY
Love the whole serious and your channel. Hope the new movie comes out soon. Imagine the battle that's to come with God Madoka and Demon Homura ? Anyways keep up the great work and happy your back 😊 🎉❤🌙✨️⭐️
I'd like the rest of the main cast to have their doppels explored.
Iroha's group and the main Wings of Magius memebers (who haven't been covered yet)
And the other trio of main girls too (almost forgot them)
And that she also needs to talk about Karin, Mitama and Kanagi. They are also main characters (although the anime cut their partitipations to give all atention to Kuroe).
10:25 while I do think that could be the case. I tthink its quite a bit more simple: its something you'd wear at a funeral. Yachiyo believes she kills anyone who gets close so her doppel gives her partial funeral attire
I LOVE these videos of yours!! I hope you make more!!!❤️❤️
IM SORRY BUT THE LITTLE TIEM STAMP FOR IHORA’S IT SAYS IRAJA I CANT BREATHE💀💀💀💀
I really hope you do more explaining videos for the Dopples in Magia record soon.
Gonna make a commentary on some parts of the video to add my own interpretation to your works:
Iroha - Beyond the "keeping your magical girl activity" a secret (which is a given to all magical girls), I think the rogue theme do work for Iroha because she's a shy and quiet character (at the beginning of the story that is), and it's even more fitting when you consider that Iroha, in the anime, has her hood on at the beginning, but then she no longer has it on when she gains confidence and determination. It also works well with her whole thematic of her Doppel who hides what Iroha doesn't want to see or is too afraid to acknowledge (which plays a big role in the last few episodes of the anime and even in some bits of the gacha game), like when she was looking for Ui, she never thought about her potentially being dead, or even completely denies the possibility of her being a fake memory implanted in her mind like Mitama said.
Yachiyo - There's also a tie to the tale "The Scorpion and the Frog" that could be made with Yachiyo, not only because of her Doppel but also because of her beliefs that her wish was the cause of Mel and Kanae's death, even though she never meant it (like the Scorpion who killed the frog halfway into the pond despite promising he wouldn't, and even though he knew it'll doom them both, because it was in its nature to sting). I'm also surprised you didn't mentioned Yachiyo's witch silhouette we see in the anime, when Iroha explained what she was dreaming about when stuck in her Doppel World before Yachiyo and Kuroe came to the rescue.
Mifuyu - I like to believe that her outfit, or her "vest" at least, represent a sort of pyjamas clothing, like it's very comfortable and fluffy, and she doesn't wear much beneath it. The sugar geese being "sugar" could also ties with her indulging herself in her dreams where she's free from everything (in theory), with the whole "sweet dreams", "sugarcoating things" and all that.
Kuroe - Ok I have some stuff to say because I feel like a few details were missed:
1) Her inherent ability is "Affirmation of Existence", which is said to attract the attention of those around her. The building wall powers only seems to be a second power she develops like how Kyoko develops her own powers after she lost her inherent magic. I also believe there's no real differences between anime and gacha magic, because the Mami, Kyoko and Sayaka all keep their skills and such in any depiction, with no differences from one another.
2) [This interpretation is only based on what I've seen from the anime and not the gacha] While I do agree with Kuroe's characterization, I do believe she doesn't fail at saving people, but her whole reason for being/feeling weak and depressed is because she feels like she fails as being a magical girl. For example: she choose not to help Kuro in the anime and leaves her like that, and we don't even know if she died or witched out. She joined the Wings of Magius for magical girls to be saved ... but soon betrays them when she finds Iroha. What ultimately strike her down is how miserable she feels as a magical girl because of the repeated failures she went trought, and that's why even with Iroha's speech, she witches out (and it's even the last push up to her downfall): she's tired of being a failure of a magical girl that cannot save and must be constantly saved by someone.
Kuroe didn't loose her magical power of Affirmation of Existence, she still keeps that power in the whole show.
That's why Nemu chooses her to look for Iroha from all those black feathers and that's why Iroha looses interest in Ui, Touka and Nemu while Kuroe is around her, she basiclly makes people focus just on her and forget about others while she is literally no one to them (again, she and Iroha weren't friends they just talked twice before meeting again). Also this might explain why she is forgotten when she isn't around, since people only seem to acknowledge her when she is seen because her magic is making people minds focus on her.
@@fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094 I never said Kuroe lost her powers, I said the wall building magic was like her second magic, JUST LIKE Kyoko's second magic she uses in the anime since she lost her illusion magic
In Japanese Astrology, Black star is known as a bad omen or bad luck.
Got a pin that reads "magical girl in training" the day this dropped
I wish you good luck getting through all of the girls in MR especially if you also cover alternative versions
I think Kuroe’s power , “Affirmation of Existence” means she exists constantly throughout the timelines. She’s one of , if not THE only girls who carries over.
I really love Mifuyu, she’s so underrated
Great video! :D Can't wait for your next Madoka Magica/Magia Record video! :)
Fun(Or.... Actually not Fun) Fact : If you see Kuroe's witch Ichizo, it's like she is flying up to the bright blue star. It represents Iroha, the brightest star Kuroe wanted to be. Unfortunately, as you know that the witches can't achieve their desire in their barrier, Ichizo could never reach up to that flashing star.
P.S : To let Kuroe rest in peace, Iroha uses her magic to make a dagger to defeat Ichizo Kuroe. During that scene, the dagger also flashes brightly like a star, which directly represents that Iroha is the brighest star Kuroe was admiring.
Seriously Kuroe doesn't deserve this ending.....
Thankfully, the game went on with its own take on Kuroe where she's able to find that hope she used to have.
I think my problem with Kuroe (and this is a problem with the anime's handling of the characters in general), is that she's not exactly a character on her own and comes off more like a plot device for Iroha's narrative. And I'm glad the game fleshes out Kuroe way more, like her MGS giving us her full backstory for the anime, including her first meeting with Iroha. The Little Bird's Star event giving us her game scenario where she never met Iroha until way after joining the Wings of Magius.
And they're all so well-written and really gives Kuroe's character the exploration it really needed.
Covering the differences the anime decided to make in it's ending, why you think they did it, and if it was a good idea or not plus the over all hidden meanings could be fun
I seen awhile ago a theory that the reason Irohas Doppel wants to hide from reality is because it doesn’t want to the face the reality of being a magical girl, aka the death and suffering that comes along with being a magical girl and that’s why Spoiler warning: kuroes death was so important. Because it made her have to face the reality that being a magical girl isn’t as good as she wants it to be. The theory also tied some things related to this back to ui but I’m just summarizing.
11:36 I always thought that Mifuyu's outfit was based of a sheep. Kinda like counting sheep before you sleep Or maybe it was based on pj's or something.
I really appreciated this because I had no idea that the witches/doppels had this much thought put into them this time around. I feel the witches in Madoka Magica have kind of been talked about at nauseum tbh so I was really fascinated to learn the intent behind these ones.
I also thought Kuroe was a pointless character but now I see a lot more love was put into her than I thought
Tbh Kuroe was kinda pointless and a waste of character (mainly in screentime, the other characters that were cut had more much deept). She was just made by InuCurry to get killed and to be victimized. Althought it's interesting to see references and symbolism to her victimistic nature. 😅
At least Im not the only one ahah
I don't think she hurts the quality of Magia Record too much though
@@sushigivesmelife2131 yeah, althought she doesn't add up to. She is just there, victimizing herself and taking screentime of actual main characters. 😅
I think giovana does have a healing element in the design, I think it looks like old plauge doctors
Honestly i believe that kuroe's death was one of the most devastating ones in both madoka magica and magia record (the anime)
YES!! I've been waiting for this!! let's goooo, this is my favorite time of magical may!
2:20 They are like twin sisters.
Not really. Iroha looks more like her little sister Ui. Iroha is just seen similar as Madoka because of the pink color similarities.
I LOOVEE THIS TYPE OF VIDEO SO MUCH
you forgot a detail,giovanna mask look like a plague medic,making a link between her healing power but showing that are misundertood, just like plague doctor misundertood the plague.
I love magica record more! I'm glad you mentioned this.
Man, Yachiyo is my favorite character in the entire series. Her development in both game and anime is really good.
I think Final Season dropped the ball on her a little though...It didn't make sense for her to leave Mifuyu behind like that.
And Kuroe's tragedy was that she could have been saved if only she had met Iroha at a different time. And I like how the game went with this and gave Kuroe a different path to grow into.
That time of the year again
An interesting little tid bit I noticed here 14:07 , but the top of Iroha’s has the wrapped looking part and on the bottom of the girl on the left she has a sort of wrapping part forming the top of her skirt.
The series comes back and i am back here
The doppel taking over is only a side-effect in the anime. In the game, the girls who overuse their doppel tend to lose the use of their legs.
Wait really???
Is it confirmed in Arc 2 or Arc 1???
@@JamieMieLi Yup! I think it's confirmed by an event between arcs, when Nemu is in a wheelchair? And the again in Arc 2, when a member of Neo Magius uses her doppel too much and is hospitalized.
@@whimsicalVanilla ... I NEED TO REWATCH MAGIA RECORD 🏃💨
THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION!!!
You're pronouncement of Iroha hurts me so much
It's "Eee-ro-ha" not "Aye-ro-ha" XD
Otherwise, excellent video! Love seeing you talk more about PMMM. It's interesting how I do _like_ Magia Record, but it doesn't quite _click_ with me 100%. I think it's mostly because of how it raises so many questions about the worldbuilding, the overwhelming number of characters, and Homura's jaunts through time, but I'm not also wondering if it's compounded by the inspiration. I didn't know about Night on the Galactic Railroad before this video, and I think having a strong concept of Faust made the original so much easier to digest for a westerner like me.
All the same, it's good to see the level of thought put into the original series is still on full display here. Magia Record felt like an unnecessary spin-off to me when it released, a Gacha-tie-in promotional series, but the writers really made it work well after I gave it a second chance, even with my gripes. Definitely noticed the bird theme going on but you really put it all together. Great vid!
Lol I always end up pronouncing things wrong! It sounds the same to me when I was recording my audio!
I really am curious about Sana, becasue the whole thing with her backstory leaves a lot of potential for her that i dont feel the anime really tapped into
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes I've been waiting for this ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
3:36 Is this true?! If so can someone link me to a source where she says this, because dam that's a big surprise to me. Did Aokiume mention anything else about the story??
Actually, Ume designed Iroha without knowing she was going to be the main focused character (they just asked her to design most of the important characters but she didn't know who was the main character), but after knowing Iroha was going to be the main character she changed her weapon (originally she designed Iroha with a dagger as a weapon, in the game she doesn't have that weapon).
@@fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094 ahh! Thank you so much, That makes a lot more sense! I've seen the concept art of her dagger, I just thought it was an extra thing Aokiume added
OH MY GOD GIRL YOUR ALIVE?!
Of course, I've been posting videos every single week for 2 years now. :)
If you want to experience the madoka magica portable game there is a translation that is around 80% done and is expected to be finished this summer, the gameplay is not very good but there is a theme of bond forming between all the members of the quintet and you go on little dates in between labyrinths to make their affection go up and it’s really cute and neat. If u don’t have a psvita there it is also possible to emulate it
I notice that Iroha and Kuroa
Are madoka and homura
No.
Iroha is more like Homura and Kuroe is Sayaka done wrong by InuCurry.
Can a witch be happy? I know they usually for from stress but don't they also form if you die or your gem gets destroyed? What is the magical girl gets attacked and doesn't relies it in the middle of doing what she loved? Then wouldn't her witch reflect that?
Technically a black hole is a black star as it's the end result of a star's death. Just like how kuroe died to become a witch, so too does a star die and become a black hole, sucking in everything around it.
There’s a lot of newer, magical girls that came out to you a lot of them. It’s impossible to cover all of them. But I wish you the best of luck. I made the dreams fly high, wherever you go.❤❤❤
I love Magia Record🥰
Giovanna look like a plague doctor, for me
She is a plague doctor
You should rank their transformations!
Could you look into some of the other in the anime like the 3 young girls / friends
A beeper look at them
Or the others. I love these videos
(As I’m typing this you mention doing it)
8:00 i remember watching the movie adaptation of that book and it messed me up lol
This is so good thanx gurl🌸😈🥰
Omg!!! I just saw this am so excited
All This Moon Talk Reminds Me Of Sailor Moon With Out The Train Part 😅😅😅😅
Well we have like six magical girls in Magia Record related to the Moon:
-Yachiyo
-Mifuyu
- Tsukuyo and Tsukasa
-Masara Kagami (a side character)
-Hotaru Yura (another side character)
It's kinda sad that seconds before Kuroe turns into a witch she says "i can go back before i met you" to Iroha wich basically means "i regret ever meeting you, it's all your fault"
Bird bird bird bird is the word bb-b-bird bird bird
14:35 I’ve watched the anime before, and I feel like that it’s similar to a powerful Matesi, forget me, not see, forget me, not lives in a state where people look at him. Remember everything about blessings they look away they forget him. I think that’s similar to Currys power. It’s that when people knew her day, notice her, they pay attention to her they comfort her what is seriously look away play me a Lyft does even proof of that happens to eat her eyes talking to her hiding with her, but is soon as they look awayAnd they don’t even talk about her. I was like she didn’t exist. Not only that Kevin was my moment where you where era introduces herself multiple times, like that she didn’t remember her because of that I feel like that her ability is similar to that when people notice her they are able to chat for refuse they look away, they forget about her
You should mention mivuyu put her self and others in tiny moons a lot she does it to diseper and use is it like a fours filld another reference
I LOVE MAGIA RECORD SO MUCH. THE ANIME IS SO AWESOME
Iroha ascended into godhood at the end of Arc 2 in the Magia Record app
Mmm kind of. She fused with Ui, Touka, Nemu and Mini-Kyubey to turn into the APS (Auto Purification System) concept. But still, she has her physical body and still could turn into a witch or get killed.
@@fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094 Touka and Nemu are not part of Ultimate Iroha as they became Uwasa queens instead