Making of Modern London-London Transport
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- From the 1980s, a documentary detailing the growth of modern London. This episode showed how the expansion of the Underground pushed the growth of London out in to new pastures, when places like Golders Green and Arnos Grove were in the countryside! If you liked the video please subscribe to my channel, there are lots more transport & quirky vids to upload!
It's a good job that the 30 mph limit came into force in 1935 can you imagine what would have happened if there had been no speed limit,chaotic to say the least.
Gosh, the routes have changed. From Finsbury Park to Hammersmith? Wow. Fascinating documentary. Thanks so much for uploading it.
London was a much smaller place when the first tubes started. It was their extension into the countryside that was the catalyst to expanding London, the railway companies wanted house building to give them their passengers.....
This is one of the best documentaries I have ever seen, and I’ve seen quite a number. Have watched this one four times and quite honestly I reckon I could watch it over and over again without tiring of it! Before my first viewing I knew nothing of the history of London’s transport before its big sweep revolution of 1933 and in fact I think I discovered this documentary when by chance putting out a question as to the old General Company which I had heard of by name and by name only from old photos but never by any reading info’ ie I became curious because I couldn’t quite grasp why the dearth of interest in the “private interest” of London’s transport ie it was as tho’ anything and everything previous to 1933 had been [ rather like George’s references in 1984 to the elimination of previous news items...] clamped out of existence by the new Corporate Entity called London Transport which granted was as it were like “the answer to a maiden’ s prayer” did also seem a bit like the Soviet Bolshevik Revolution ie the re-writing of history ie everything before just like the Stone Age! Don’t get me wrong! “Ain’t complainin’!” as might be said, just that it seemed a weeny bit unfair towards efforts previous to 1933...after all as the saying goes “Rome wasn’t built in a day!” ie even great inventors of the present generally have a decent sense of humility to admit their knowledge owes something to previous efforts....[ I mean, who taught them, they had to go school too, didn’t they, or as our dear Mothers might/would say “Full of big ideas and large ‘I am-s’ but who taught them to blow their noses AND into a handkerchief too!” Or maybe I’m wrong and old-fashioned in outlook, and the “new greats [ not to say ‘ grates ‘ ...] don’t care and just say [ not unlike the Bolshies...] that what happened before was rubbish run by selfish Maifiosi crooks selling stale peanut butter to the saintly populace.....ie purely on the profit motive.... Well, maybe I am wrong....after all, they did it to make money and set out to make money be earning it ie by “sewing something to reap something” and not being funded by public funds they had to be ruthless to be realistic but ruthless maybe not against the customer but against competition....But I digress....Just to say that everyone concerned in the making and presentation of this documentary can be mighty proud of their superb achievement....and with renewed thanks....and wishes for Good Continuation!
Thank you....sadly this wonderfull set of series was never released on video, even to this day! They started in around 1700 and went up to around the 1960s over several series......
Fascinating film, thanks for uploading it! Seeing those wonderful trams in action makes me feel it was a big mistake to have scrapped them.
I have a soft spot for trams and have ridden on HR2 1858 at Carlton Coalville in Lowestoft, lovely machine!
Most railways in Britain are more than 150 years old.
Very interesting video with some wonderful footage.Thanks for uploading it soi.
I have more from this series and will upload these as well.
Kind of you to post this. The Making of Modern London series was superb and a great pity it wasn't made available to buy in a commercial format. The books on the series are a good supplement. Apart from the high quality of the content and archive film, the fine narration of Gavin Weightman was a delight to listen to, and also the splendidly appropriate musical background supplied by Jim Parker.
Yes, all the series they did were top notch quality, which we tend not to get on telly these days.....
Baker St to Waterloo = Bakerloo. Obvious when someone points it out! How come I've gone 62 years not knowing that?! Thank you 🙏
My pleasure......a very good series this was......
The shortening of tube line names could've been more widespread. When the Victoria line was under construction, there was a suggestion to call it the Viking line - not so much about the British ancestors, but the two names of Victoria and King's Cross. Another suggestion was to call it the Walvic line - Walthamstow to Victoria.
Also, when the Northern line's two branches formed together, there were various ideas to call it the Edgden (Edgware-Morden) or Edgington (Edgware-Kennington). When the unveiling of King Tutankhamun in Egypt made headline news in the 1920s, a suggestion was put forward for the Tootingcamden line!
This is amazing information. I always wondered how the undergrounds were built.
A lovely little series, very well researched and written. And sadly unavailable on DVD.....
Really enjoyed watching very interesting thank you
My pleasure....It's a series that should be repeated from the start, it is a well researched series.....
Interesting documentary! Catchy tune at 11:34 🎺
Great little show. Thanks very much!
Great video. Thanks for the upload.
This is much easier to follow at 75% speed.
Yes, old time films seem to be speeded up a lot........lol
fabulous film, thank you.
LT at it's best!
Great stuff, my favourite subject. Don't remember this one, I would be working evenings when this was broadcast in1984.
The whole series was superb but i liked this one more than the others, for obvious reasons!
I know many moan about TfL but I certainly missed it when I moved back to Toronto. Remember some of the tube lines are 120 years old!
Tell me about it! I used to work on the Bakerloo Line, it was hot in winter, and like a sauna in summer!!!!
Glen. Actually some of the tube is over 150 years old. The first line opened in January 1863.
@@maxmullen6337 yes the Met did but first electric deep level tube was in 1890. That is astounding.
I've seen this before. well worth watching again
A very well made programme i thought....
Wonderful work. Thank you so much.
A well made documentary......
Those first electric trams remind me of the “Dinky” toys I used to get for Xmas in the late 40s - early 50s
I Love the Old London ❤️😍
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Nothing much has changed on "Public" Transport!
This was a truly GREAT series - made by Thames TV. I have constantly pestered the Thames library inheritors over a long period of time to give it the restoration/DVD release treatment - but it has never happened. I have some wobbly copies (recorded to Betamax, then copied to VHS and finally digitised to MPEG2) but really I would like to get professionally remastered versions. These contained so much - they have great value and interest for history buffs, scholars and students of social history. Such a shame they remain on the shelf - come on Freemantle Media - Buck up!
I do have a few others but sadly didn't do every episode.......
Agreed although it was LWT not Thames that made it
@@ajpdaniels Yes, i seem to recall it being broadcast on a Sunday evening which meant it wasn't a Thames production.
@@ajpdaniels Yes indeed. It ended up in the Thames Library though according to the researches I made in the 2000s.
@@alanmusicman3385 Yes. We've got the book which is great and led us to this. I know I'm sounding old but I can't imagine ITV doing something like this now. Sad to loose the regions
6:50 Mornington Crescent!
Youve just violated the dunstable passante. You're now in Nid
6:11 Hampstead
I read the book based on this TV programme.
So the U S A financed the London Underground. You never stop learning. A Londoner.
Yes, a large part of the actual tube lines (rather than the sub-surface lines) were built using American money. I don't think they made any money out of it, just like previous UK investors!
i believe there was a book written by michael aspel and lwt on this subject in the 1980s
Yes, i seem to recall book tie-ins......i have no idea why it's never been released on DVD?....They were several series, all well researched and produced.......that's something we no longer have, quality television......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Absolutely; even the BBC have gone down the drain.
Hello, Soi Buakhao!
My name is Maria and I am representing the International Relations Department of The Pushkin State Museum of Fine Arts.
We are now preparing an exhibition to open in October this year and would like to include this video in our display in one of the galleries.
Would you be as kind as to let us know if this is possible and what kind of costs we will need to cover for the rights licensing? Thank you in advance.
Hi, sorry to bother again. Can you please kindly get back to me in regards to this video licensing? Thank you again!
This isn't actually one of my own, so what you do with it is up to you......i know it is not available on DVD and there is no interest in releasing the whole series, which is a shame as they were well written & presented. Best of luck with your Arts Show.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Thank you for getting back to me. Best of luck
@@ilimari2
You have to get in touch with Freemantle or ITV whoever owns the rights.
most enjoyable
Don’t forget the British opened the first underground in 1863. And the first deep tunnel electric in 1890.
Long before those American blokes.
True, but after the City & South London, the rest was built using American money!.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus. For time back then. But not for a hundred years.
The underground still looked like this in 1986 lol
Great vedio
Thank you....
Amazing when you compare the quality and style of old Southgate station with the depressing, gloomy shit of the modern Westminster Station.
Yes, they certainly had style to them back in those days. Today, it's cheap and cheerful with the excuse of 'regulations'.......Even today Southgate looks good, see here on my upload from last November th-cam.com/video/4qRdfu2unK8/w-d-xo.html
Brilliant!!!!!!
I recorded all of this series on to VHS. I'd like to know how to transfer it to TH-cam.
You need to convert the video to MP4. There are kits to copy VHS tapes straight to computer, or copy them to DVD, upload the DVD to your computer and use an free programme from the interenet and then convert them to MP4. In that format you can upload them to YT......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus ah, thanks very much. Is there inevitably a loss of quality?
@@kgs42 When i copied across to DVD i set the recording quality to high so that helped. The quality of direct VHS to MP4 is ok but it depends on how good the quality of the VHS tape is, they are all quite old now and degrading being magnetic......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Thanks again> You have answered a question I have thought about for years!
@@kgs42 It's worth doing. I had a large VHS collection and started copying onto DVD back in 2004, probaly near on 1000 tapes! I managed it and all is on DVD but the transport ones i have as MP4 now and on several different hard drives. If you want to transfer from DVD top MP4 i have the name of a free converter you can download. To copy straight from VHS you will need a kit, ebay is where i got mine, not expensive, less than £20......You will need your VHS player of course to play the tapes and a computer to copy on to....
0:50 That's a tight fit.
...MICKIE DEZ JUST DOWN THE STREET...
What were the other episodes, can you see them anywhere?
Sadly they were never released on video or DVD.......
When was this filmed??
The series was made around 1980 time although they used lots of historical film from earlier in the 20th century.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus ok
1984 it says on the closing credits
When was it filmed? It's a collection of hundreds of different films.
Should have been a licence test how to be a parent too!!
was this an LWT production for Channel 4 or was it shown on LWT?
It was originally shown on LWT first and repeated on C4.
Great documentation of the American financing for British travel franchise. I'm sure all the investments of the transatlantic slave trade paid great dividends to help rebuild such a magnifent public transport dynasty.
No idea where the finance that came from America originated but a lot of Londoners don't realise the early deep level tubes were only built because of USA money. And that Yerkeys was a shady businessman, some things never change......
Gee God. Utter rubbish. The trans Atlantic slave trade was fought against by the British in the greatest act of altruism in the history of the world. It started in 1807, lasted fifty years and cost the British many billions in today’s money. For which the British received not a penny or any other advantage. The white man (especially the Englishman) created the modern world which has allowed the population of the world to increase seven times over in just 200 years. This means there is an 83 percent chance that idiots like you would not even be alive now if not for white people. And another thing. Stop using the white man’s inventions or discoveries. You know, don’t travel in cars or busses or trains, don’t use electricity. Don’t use our modern sewage systems, and certainly don’t use modern medicines. And bugger off.
@@maxmullen6337 ooooh steady now.You have a good point ,but, most of the British Slave owner's, had to be 'persuaded' with billions of public money, as compensation. So ultruism, was not their first instinct, if at all.
Philip Croft. Again rubbish. The slave owners were compensated but the fact is the British government made slave owning illegal wherever they had power to impose. It was a decision made by the British State not the slave owners. It’s a bit more complicated than you probably think because India was a problem. India was largely self governing and the Indian hierarchy were happy with slavery, Casteism and widow burning. Widow burning was stopped but it was a struggle and slavery was dealt with later.
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Is this seriously just one long sentence ... ??
It takes an American in about 1900 to see the potential and take a risk by putting his money where his mouth is by investing, and another later who finances it, but the guy from England who designed the posters is given a real accolade. Anglo slant, to much.
Just our elites doing what they always have done.....looking after themselves.......!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Britishers made all these things by looted India till 200 years.. What England is today because of Indian money.. Ancient India was called bird of gold that's why Britishers captured India ..they looted India and developed England and made India poor country
@@pranavcool1902 A couple of points....a lot of the Underground was built with American money....a lot of steel was used to build the system and that didn't come from India....and India has always been a poor country for the majority, the maharaja's were rich, just like the elies of the UK who did go to India,......and don't forget it was the British East India Company who went there to trade and did a deal with various rulers who were only too happy to agree in order to make money. The ones who caused chaos then still do so today....and they are called the 'elites'........And it all happened long before we were born, don't get worked up by history, it cannot be changed.....unless you have access to a time machine..........
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I m just telling you the truth and steel was came from wherever they buy it by Indian money and for your kind information India was a rich country that time that's why Britishers came to India for looting And for your kind information The Crown that queen of British wear On his head has Attached with diamond of India.. Lots of golden statues of India has placed on British museum
@@pranavcool1902 I know India has a very long and proud history, long before the British came. And i think it has a great future ahead, i want to go and visit for myself....and to ride the fabulous Indian Railways!......
FUCK IT,
I'm going to say it...
HOW MANY OFF YOU SEEN THE FREE ENERGY DEVICE..
(where is the best place to hide something)
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I presume you are referring to the famous architectural embellishment in the form of an electric insulator on top of Southgate Station. (15:40) ?
It's a piece of promotional concrete, not a Tesla-esque experiment.
Hob's Lane was the tube station with the free energy device, but Professor Quatermass blew that up because it was being very naughty.
That was sci-fi style by Architect Holden.