Downtown Eastside business owners asked if tent removals helped | CBC Vancouver

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  • One month after tents were removed from Vancouver's East Hastings street, businesses near the centre of the Downtown Eastside say little has changed, and in some cases, believe the decampment has made things worse. Lien Yeung reports.
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  • @jhinkwon2828
    @jhinkwon2828 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    This is really great reporting. Upfront and close on the ground with business owners and people on the street. Unfiltered and raw - I park at the same lot and walk this walk every morning and this is a very accurate portrayal of downtown east side. Thank you CBC Vancouver for bringing awareness to this very important issue for our city.

  • @laarawilliamsen
    @laarawilliamsen ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Thank you for your interviews. In 1998 many countries came to a huge conference in Vancouver and basically every country said we were doing it wrong. What was recommended was low cost housing, counselling, drug treatment, hospitalization for those who are sick either physically or mentally. What Vancouver did was start up the needle exchange. Why?

    • @infowarriorone
      @infowarriorone ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Needle exchange was a small step in the right direction. Now there's safe injection sites in Vancouver. We have them here in Toronto and they've saved thousands of lives.

    • @laarawilliamsen
      @laarawilliamsen ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@infowarriorone Yes, you are right. I am in favor of needle exchange and safe injection sites as part of a solution. At least many lives have been saved with these partial measures to assist!

    • @Shay416
      @Shay416 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because it's the cheaper option.

    • @DW-op7ly
      @DW-op7ly ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm for these as well but if we are saving lives and money decriminalization of drugs we need to spend that money on catching the criminals

    • @laarawilliamsen
      @laarawilliamsen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DW-op7ly Yes. the criminals need to be stopped completely. Agreed!

  • @SaraX2024
    @SaraX2024 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    I live in the Lower Mainland but barely go to Downtown Vancouver anymore. Last week, I visited downtown after a long while and it was shocking. It was not just the Eastside anymore, the homelessness and drug use is now all over the place. I paid parking for the entire day, only to leave after an hour. I quickly shopped what I needed and left because I didn't feel safe anywhere in Downtown Vancouver. Places in the heart of downtown and around West Hastings used to be clean and walkable. Now, there is smell of urine and dirt everywhere, suspicious activity in the open where there used to be none, and construction sites limit access to many streets. Downtown Vancouver has become unwalkable.

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What are you talking about. Vancouver always had homelessness.

    • @SaraX2024
      @SaraX2024 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@johnnygoodman2003 Yes, Vancouver always had problems with homelessness. Absolutely. But there was a clear distinction between East and West Hastings for instance. Now, it's everywhere, reaching far into the western part of the city where there used to be a hard cut. The majority of the city looks like the Eastside now.

    • @randomuser942464
      @randomuser942464 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Never had a problem going downtown and feel like anyone who does is scared for no real reason

    • @scottbails6663
      @scottbails6663 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@randomuser942464 Ya and why do people get stabbed for no reason !

    • @randomuser942464
      @randomuser942464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @SCOTT BAILS show me the people who get stabbed for no reason because stabbings are always drug or robbery related.

  • @vancouverbluesea
    @vancouverbluesea ปีที่แล้ว +32

    It is a vicious cycle. People work (but can't earn enough so they can live normally). Then they slip and despair and some try to escape in drugs or alcohol. Then once addicted - they can't get out. You give the safe supply and save lives but then what? Can you bring people out of the pit, get them drug free, give them decent job and let them live a normal life? Or - what is the goal? Do you have a plan what to do?
    One more thing - many thousands can be saved by avoiding the illicit drugs. Then what? Save 12000, few years down the road 24000 etc. If the number increases is this a success story? Unless the issues that bring people on the street - desperation, inability to live a normal life are addressed - they don't live - they just exist.

    • @jordanthedoge535
      @jordanthedoge535 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this homelessness and drugs business is a huge industrial complex. The more the homeless the more money rolls in for people who oversees this problem. Do you really think they want to solve this problem? If they do then the money stops.

  • @TheMcgojoh
    @TheMcgojoh ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Well down. You and your team have been doing a bang up job on reporting on the issues facing the DTES. Thank you.

  • @JSOptimus
    @JSOptimus ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The provincial government at the time that closed Riverview failed everyone who use to live there. All of the the governments since from the provincial and city level have failed everyone who lives and works in the downtown eastside/Chinatown. They've watch the area crumble and have done very little. Millions spent on free and "safer" drugs (which is laughable), but they never actually addressed the real problems of helping those with mental health issues and homelessness. And, the justice system appears to be a revolving door for those who commit crimes down there. Nothing will really change until the address the bigger issues.

    • @ihategooglesomuch
      @ihategooglesomuch ปีที่แล้ว +6

      they closed Riverview because it was too expensive to give severely ill people the most basic level of 'care' possible. They were turned out onto the street to die (which many did), but unfortunately many are still alive and living on the same planet as 'normal' people. That’s why they have expanded MAiD to include mental illness, in hopes that people will elect to off themselves next time they feel depressed and hopeless. this goes way beyond the homeless, many low income people are unable to get the help they need, let alone afford decent housing.

    • @matzrat5006
      @matzrat5006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ihategooglesomuch Supreme Court decided it was against their civil rights being locked up, because they were mentally sick. But it has been shown that they need that help.

    • @ihategooglesomuch
      @ihategooglesomuch ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @matzrat5006 obviously they would not admit that it was a money issue, as that would make them appear heartless, but that is clearly the underlying reason.

  • @nintendo1709
    @nintendo1709 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So I'm an American and I find this situation interesting. We obviously have a lot of issues of mental health, drug use, and homelessness here but a lot of progressives say it's due to the lack of a social safety net and affordable housing. Yet when I look at Canada, a country with a stronger welfare system than ours, it seems like a lot of the same problems exist. What makes Canada different from the UK or France? I think it's institutionalization. Countries like Denmark, Norway, Japan, and Taiwan have some of the highest mental health institutionalization rates in the world. Canada, like the US, needs to rebuild their mental health and insane asylums to rehouse these people, but also have oversight, rules, and cameras to prevent abuse from happening. It would be humane and clear the streets of people who are a danger to themselves and others.

    • @nicolasclermont893
      @nicolasclermont893 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So we have a huge issue with affordable housing. People can't buy houses because there aren't enough and the ones that exist are too expensive. The same with rent.

    • @nintendo1709
      @nintendo1709 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nicolasclermont893 I understand that argument but I'm not sure if it holds true. For example, Tokyo, London, Oslo, Sydney, and Singapore are all expensive cities with affordability problems but they do not have the problems that many American and Canadian cities have with regards to vagrancy, drug abuse, and homelessness.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nintendo1709
      Singapore doesn't have the problems because drug-traffickers and addicts are hanged.

    • @nintendo1709
      @nintendo1709 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@punkinhoot I don't know if that's true either because New York City and Chicago have some of the highest rates of homelessness in the US and they are both cold places. Toronto also has an exploding homeless population. It just seems like there is something deeper going on that neither said is speaking about.

    • @rffg781
      @rffg781 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this. there is reason for asylums to exist. but very few people willing to say it outloud.

  • @RedX1II
    @RedX1II ปีที่แล้ว +10

    @CBC
    I have lived at Seymour and Nelson now for almost 3 years and what I've witnessed while living directly next to Granville Street (and subsequently the ally next to it) is shocking to say the least.
    Aside from homeless/addicts breaking into our building each day to steal the amazon packages - In the warmer months, you will find TEENAGERS - YOUNG - 13-16 year old boys (sometimes girls!) From nicer parts of the city - in name brand clothing, nice backpacks and nice skateboards - huddled around each other on a blanket - slumped over and drooling, in and out of consciousness - 2-4 of them, in broad daylight and every single person just walks by them.
    These kids come downtown to get access to cheap and accessible drugs and find it by simply walking up to the corner of granville/nelson where there is at any given moment 2-5 different dealers all working together to deliver to the drug needs of the people visiting here - they do not discriminate against age - nor do they care about the youth in our city.
    I used to live just down the road at EXPO & CAMBIE - and it felt like a COMPLTELY different world living down there - You rarely saw a homeless person walking around, the streets are spotless - people are chipper and generally more polite and aren't afraid to make eye-contact - but up here? Nobody looks at each other - you don't trust anyone - you're constantly dodging people yelling at each other or smashing windows - every car for an entire block has its windows smashed and the glass of past car break ins clutter the street.
    On top of all of this, we have an extremely skilled group of "addicts" that have access to a "FIRE DEPARTMENT" access key that use it to access our buildings elevator and turn it off at night time, giving them access to our parking lot and the floors of our building - We pay $2600-3500 a month to live here and have no security and are CONSTANTLY in a battle for our safety in our building - The other night I walked up to my building and a homeless man was dumping gasoline into a planter and lit it ablaze, while I called the police - another casually dressed man walked into our building as residents held the door watching the blaze - this man proceeded to steal every package, literally IN FRONT of the FIREDEPARTMENT and walked away unscathed.
    I DON'T Know what the answer is - but I can't see it getting better before it gets a WHOLE LOT WORSE!

    • @Canadahasfallen88
      @Canadahasfallen88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wow, that sounds like hell on earth. I'm sorry you have to experience that on a daily basis. 😟

  • @joannecolette8169
    @joannecolette8169 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    It amazes me the ignorance of some people. First, the stores featured pay $75 per square foot for rent, actually more than in some other places in Vancouver. Second, they have put in a lot of their own money to start those businesses and pay high taxes ( etc.) to maintain them. They are hard working people who don't get government handouts. Third, someone said something about disturbing the hornets nest, I didn't realize that speaking out about a situation that is destroying our city is taboo. If we don't acknowledge it we can't help anyone improve their situation. Fourth, someone said that the business owners should make changes in how they work. What kind of changes? They did make changes by locking the door during business hours and only letting in people they know. A business owner shouldn't be held hostage when they are just trying to make a living and employ others who also want to work and make their money the legal way, including paying taxes to support those who can't or won't work. The business owners aren't the ones bothering the homeless and drug addicted. They just want a safe, clean place to offer their services and be left alone.

    • @David-gz4wb
      @David-gz4wb ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah so you can count 1 to 4 good for you. Nobody is pointing the gun to open shop there. You're telling me they're paying more down there than kits, Kerrisdale or coal harbour? Let's be honest, the incentive is cheaper lease. Your magical number of "$75" per sq ft can be tossed out and so does your ability to count.

    • @zion2794
      @zion2794 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it's very taboo indeed but yes it's 100% a discussion that is needed to be had. it's not anyone's fault besides the government though.

    • @joannecolette8169
      @joannecolette8169 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@David-gz4wb Check for yourself and then reply. It is true!

    • @silentmajority8365
      @silentmajority8365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@David-gz4wb Society and its resources is for the lawful
      Criminals and the insane should be locked up Liberals too 🤣🤣

    • @silentmajority8365
      @silentmajority8365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zion2794 How is it their fault people use drugs?
      It is government fault for not locking up the insane

  • @horsegirly5
    @horsegirly5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Great reporting! As a teacher, I always wonder what the childhood experiences of folks on the streets were. Yes, the government needs to address the immediate needs but we should to go right back to the beginning to better childcare, support for families, and educational supports for students who are at risk for substance abuse and other mental health issues.

    • @markymark4756
      @markymark4756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this is what you get when you pannder to Sodom and Ghamorra. God should have put a Swastika in the sky insted of a rainbow then we would see the truth.

    • @markymark4756
      @markymark4756 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pride will be here next week, lets take life Lite Bud and see how far we fall.

    • @markymark4756
      @markymark4756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't judge me I just bought 2g of cocaine to masturbate to porn. give them what they ask for

    • @MathGPT
      @MathGPT ปีที่แล้ว

      While I think the sentiment is right...the fact is that there's an entire class of human beings in the West right now that are deemed obsolete and useless. There used to be a strong market for physical labor but we altered our economies such that its entirely knowledge and service work. In other countries these people could actually hold down a job but here they can't. Thanks globalization!

    • @amossimon3438
      @amossimon3438 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No child or adult gets up in morning and goes out .To do bad job or be a drug addict.They need help to get throught life.We have to support them in there ups and downs throught there walk throught life.This is like forest fires.The aminals have no place to live or find food.They will be on your door steps.

  • @8bit_paul
    @8bit_paul หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. Brave reporting to not avoid the reality of the situation, thanks CBC.

  • @randomx661
    @randomx661 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love the way this video is taken, by considering everyone's opinion. Way to go CBC

    • @michaelmannucci8585
      @michaelmannucci8585 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad they're shills for the Liberal party that created this situation.

  • @Makeup_and_Me
    @Makeup_and_Me ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I agree with the gentrification part, I'm literally at risk again to become homeless due to rent increases

  • @VanisleGirl1961
    @VanisleGirl1961 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Maybe address poverty and the high cost of living. Addiction is an issue but where are they to go? Mentally ill people being left on the streets...it's an issue all over the country and in the states too. Poverty needs to be addressed. People can't live and they are pushed. Mentally ill have no place to be cared for.

  • @michellejalbert-deen1329
    @michellejalbert-deen1329 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    At Riverview, there's ample land for tiny homes.

    • @SaraX2024
      @SaraX2024 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Creating free housing at Riverview would cost the city money. The city rather makes money renting Riverview out to film productions frequently. Also, it's full of asbestos still. The entire location needs a renovation, hence, more investing.

  • @evegaboury6366
    @evegaboury6366 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work! Congratulations to this journalist! The type of reporting I expect from CBC/RC.

  • @marcriede121
    @marcriede121 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Convert abandoned shipping containers. Cheap, plentiful, fire and water-proof, easily transported to any prepared land with water, gas and electricity embedded. Eight posts and a crane @ one small plot build/day.
    Sole parents first, then the elderly. Install a dedicated creche, and a care centre, and a market. Create a community. Seed the streets with fruit trees and vegetable patches for each yard - all free.
    This is a no-brainer. Think outside the box.
    How many abandoned shipping containers are there on the wharves? 100s of thousands. Confiscate them!
    Sack current management and make something happen. NOW !!!

    • @marcriede121
      @marcriede121 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gift sole parents and the elderly with a safe comfortable roof, in their own community - then greedy landlords will suffer all the losses they deserve.
      They'll then need to get pro-active in retaining tenants - as in lowering rent to a reasonable rate, and maintaining good relationships and conditions.

    • @marcriede121
      @marcriede121 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Riverview?

    • @ihategooglesomuch
      @ihategooglesomuch ปีที่แล้ว

      sole parents already get housing provided by religious organizations like the Salvation army, but these groups won't help anyone else who doesn't align with their beliefs.

  • @lavaskull2489
    @lavaskull2489 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i enjoyed this interview and you showed each side of people on these streets and treated both of them with respect, thank you for being a true journalist

  • @MAXIM_One
    @MAXIM_One ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As much as I despise CBC this was a decent piece. Reporters need to do more of this.

    • @mattymattffs
      @mattymattffs ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is the norm for CBC. But liking CBC is a you problem

    • @beetdiggingcougar
      @beetdiggingcougar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are some good reporters among the ultra-woke ones.

    • @Euphorica
      @Euphorica ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@mattymattffs not the norm, at all.

  • @hygogc1685
    @hygogc1685 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When police or the government are not doing their jobs, reporters need to step up. 👍 Why are the drugs everywhere, must be some corruption going on. The problem is that our kids starts to use them in high school, like grade 9 that's insane while the community around the school actually is a good one. It is not just a problem in downtown east side. The old days, kids got punished for smoking in the school's washrooms, now drug overdose.

    • @SaraX2024
      @SaraX2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blame the government, not the police. The Liberals legalized a lot of hard drugs. The police's hands are bound because it's the law the Liberals gave us. And if anyone is questioning why the police has to apply more force nowadays, I would take drugs like cocaine for instance into consideration. Certain drugs make people more resistant to force. Even the insurgents during the Iraq War abused cocaine and other drugs to be more resistent to the military forces, that's how well these drugs are working. Even several gunshot wounds could not kill the insurgents easily and they were still fighting back. Now, I'm not saying that anyone should get shot, but I'm laying out the power these drugs can have.

    • @johnnieireland2057
      @johnnieireland2057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The police are doing their job everyday.

    • @SaraX2024
      @SaraX2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnieireland2057 absolutely. Imagine you joined the police because you wanted to make a difference, and then, the government puts some stupid laws into your path and you just have to watch your city falling apart that you were meant to improve and to protect.

    • @johnnieireland2057
      @johnnieireland2057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SaraX2024 yeah I’ve talked to some good people who were officers about the whole situation. The ones I talked to genuinely cared. I know there’s bad officers too but that’s the same with any place, career etc.

  • @tinac8596
    @tinac8596 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is getting way out of hand, what about our rights and safety as citizens. How is this allowed and continued with complete disregard to us as Citizens. It's time to enact measures to immediately address this massive safety issue in many communities.This is not cohesive or safe to us as citizens, and will only continue to get worse!!! Multi- tiered issue, however safety needs to immediately be addressed, instead of going back and forth on how to address the drug epidemic, your not going to solve the drug epidemic in one way, but start with our safety, while looking for possible solutions for the drug epidemic, which is incredibly sad. Like people with addictions have rights, we also have rights as citizens to live and work in a safe community. Multi-tiered levels of government need to address our now safety concerns which are, gravely impacting our personal and professional lives.

    • @zombiasnow15
      @zombiasnow15 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree . The system itself needs to overhaul.

    • @sadboi7537
      @sadboi7537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Canadians have no rights. Lol. One of the most pussified countries in the world.

    • @silentmajority8365
      @silentmajority8365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zombiasnow15 Just go back to enforcing vagrancy
      arrest drug addicts and lock up the insane
      Stopping those hot us here

    • @jadepaulsen8456
      @jadepaulsen8456 ปีที่แล้ว

      " they" are also citizens. " they " are not safe. " they" are victims of crime daily. Stay in your castle.

    • @greyghost6989
      @greyghost6989 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Please understand too. The addicted and homeless did not choose to be that way either. Everyone has rights of course. Understanding, compassion towards others as well as true help and support for all is needed.

  • @littleripper312
    @littleripper312 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    What's frustrating is everyone knows what needs to be done but our government is so inefficient and disconnected it just doesn't get done. Mentally ill people need to be taken care of by society. It doesn't matter that they don't work and contribute to society they should not be on the streets. It's weird how we would never allow a dog to live homeless on the streets but it's apparently okay for disabled humans? This is unacceptable that this is still a problem in todays age in this city.

  • @annalisavajda252
    @annalisavajda252 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well I live in Victoria the provincial capital and I noticed the popular 7/11 closed today. It's only 3 blocks from the police station too but I guess they can't be bothered to drive by and let their presence be known to deter crime here either. Useless.

  • @bluespruce786
    @bluespruce786 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr. Kendall said that we should implement a "regulated supply" 7:56 Is that the government providing these drugs for people?

  • @marcnadeau2367
    @marcnadeau2367 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Once upon a time, prevention and treatment was a thing. Now you barely hear of it as being a solution to BC's drug problem. The Rand Corporation and others have done many studies on what ways work best for addressing illegal drugs. The studies just looked at effectiveness; i.e., the least the cost, the higher the effectiveness. With respect to cocaine, turns out that the most effective by far was prevention and treatment. The second most effective was criminalization. The third most effective was increasing border controls, and the least effective was chemical warfare, or fumigation of crops. If we look at current funding, it follows the opposite ranking. Most funding goes to the worst solution, and practically none goes to the best.

    • @lynns3868
      @lynns3868 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Decriminalizing drugs is the worst idea. It has been done in other places and doesn't decrease deaths.

    • @fallingpizza11
      @fallingpizza11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@lynns3868its honestly a really good idea. people fantisize about things that are forbidden, we want to do things people tell us not to, its inherently human. taking away the fantasy and appeal of drugs would TOTALLY help.

    • @cait8480
      @cait8480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fallingpizza11 more importantly, decriminalization removes barriers to getting help. people who need help would be able to reach out without fear of being jailed, fined, and losing their freedom. it’s the same outcome we see when sex work is decriminalized - we see lower rates of violence and death for sw’ers because there are fewer (or no) repercussions for reporting incidents.

  • @4earthly2being0
    @4earthly2being0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the polite dealer and drunk guy were the best part of this segment foir a number of reasons

  • @ricosolomon
    @ricosolomon ปีที่แล้ว +11

    3:33 "Kermit the Frog just got a hundred thousand dollars, man"
    OMG one could not WRITE this kind of dialog for an SNL skit.

  • @Momo-hh6er
    @Momo-hh6er ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Vancouver deserves it. They became the role model for the bs going on in the rest of the country.

  • @johnnieireland2057
    @johnnieireland2057 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This neighbourhood is the worst it’s ever been and I’ve lived here for 20 years. Never had a problem really ever before and the past couple years have had physical altercations and a weapon pulled on me when I was just trying to work.

  • @danielt1985
    @danielt1985 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Please do not stop making these videos

  • @ProbablyLying
    @ProbablyLying ปีที่แล้ว +24

    put criminals in jail. take away their hard drugs. give them training and counselling. and then when they pass those phases, give them a small home (they need to maintain employment).

    • @lizliz4186
      @lizliz4186 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not all criminals do hard drugs. And not all drug addicts are criminals.

    • @clarifyingquestions
      @clarifyingquestions ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, GIVe drug addicts and criminals a free house upon release if they maintain employment. Why cant everyone have this deal.

    • @ProbablyLying
      @ProbablyLying ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@clarifyingquestions ok just training and job placement.

    • @clarifyingquestions
      @clarifyingquestions ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @donnell188 exactly - how about everyone put a roof over their own head - it is called being an adult.

    • @hermom1114
      @hermom1114 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And what do you do with folks that cannot stay employed for reasons beyond their control like OCD, PTSD, schizophrenia and so on . Many look ,at a glance, very capable of working but that's on their good days . To think that addiction is a "phase" is out of ignorance as is thinking that most of the folks here are lazy and just want to party when actually they are suffering and have been for many years . I know the majority of Vancouverites are seriously ignorant when it comes to addictions EXTREMELY and that is really sad . All anyone sees outside of BC is ignorant extremely selfish and inhumane people that treat vulnerable people horribly. You all that are capable to function in mainstream society be graceful and thank god everyday that you don't understand addiction ,mental illness and homelessness. The hatred for the folk here in the Eastside should be criminal.

  • @LeechyKun
    @LeechyKun ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Put those that want help into a better path with the help they need. The others that are pretty much lost need to be either locked up or in the hospital. Why don't we have asylums no more? You know, where the mentally ill go to reside and out of sigh from the public and for public safety as a whole. Not everyone wants to be saved or can be saved so they must be dealt with.

    • @MK-cc5ve
      @MK-cc5ve ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are right

    • @phoenixman8569
      @phoenixman8569 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      most of those large provincial psychiatric hospitals were closed in the 1980s to save money, and just Like in States they also failed to provide adequate services in its place, and now with fentanyl and other toxic drugs killing addict's daily and almost all out patient care is failing including legal hard drugs and safe supply that were only introduced months ago, When fentanyl started showing up around a decade some suggested forced psychiatric care right away and then others in power argued that it was immoral and unethical to lock up someone against their will, saying "human being should not to locked in cages" So those in power decided in favor of a more friendly out patient care approach, but because of fentanyl those voluntary programs have failed miserably far to many times, So now Doctors and lawmakers are starting to realize that people addicted to substances laced with fentanyl are so addicted that they cannot be reasoned with and will almost always refuse treatment and will eventually end up dead, So forced treatment locked up in psychiatric care may be the only solution now, and i know a few bleeding heart liberals will disagree with this but what other choice is there, its literally do or die crunch time!!!!!

    • @adaptercrash
      @adaptercrash ปีที่แล้ว

      Cause we don't want you to be a doctor in psychiatry same thing as a the 60s

  • @MysticalPerson48K
    @MysticalPerson48K ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It gets harder and harder to live a normal life in Vancouver. You have to avoid this and that , and you need to know your environment and where to walk.

    • @silentmajority8365
      @silentmajority8365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you voted liberal you deserve this
      When shame was taken away from being a criminal a bum or a fruit you opened the flood gates for all this mess
      They want chaos so their debauchery won't stand out

    • @ketandeswal4336
      @ketandeswal4336 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is only downtown Eastside, while the majority of the Vancouver is pretty in better condition.

  • @yayaaa666
    @yayaaa666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These people need mandatory treatments for drugs and mental health aids. It’s ridiculous mental health is not part of the public health care. It would save the government much money to heal troubles from early on.

  • @dallasgrful
    @dallasgrful ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for doing these series

  • @jasons2562
    @jasons2562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shes a great journalist who really seeks the truth, refreshing. These business owners should be able to stop paying all business related taxes until the environment is made safe and viable

  • @fanyao1393
    @fanyao1393 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The main issue is there isn't any consequence for wrong doing. These people can just walk away without any consequence. They got nothing to lose.

    • @rffg781
      @rffg781 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      unfortunately people's kindness are taken advantage of. you just have to realize some people don't ever want to work or be a responsible citizen. leaving garbage and filth everywhere

  • @irememberla6460
    @irememberla6460 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Currently in Winnipeg and there are homeless but most are addicted to alcohol, not hard drugs. I havent seen a single 'hunched over' drug addict here once. There is a big difference walking in the streets. I m alot more scared in Vancouver...such a sad situation.

  • @DiomedesRangue
    @DiomedesRangue ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great reporter

  • @melanievoisin9900
    @melanievoisin9900 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Fantastic reporting. Well done Lien Yeung!

  • @michaelbooth2402
    @michaelbooth2402 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Drug useage across the country has and is continuing to increase. We see it even in small towns as most now have homeless populations. Providing safe drugs has had limited success. More emphasis is needed on rehabilitation and educating those in need how to get a job and keep it. Tough love possibly. If this continues those businesses will fail.

    • @rickybobby5153
      @rickybobby5153 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Safe supply” is servicing probably less than 1% of addicts in Vancouver and less than 0.1% of drug users in BC. It hasn’t even been tested on an adequate scale.
      Only hardcore addicts with a doctors approval can get “safe supply”. Your weekend warriors who are dropping dead like flies, the guys who actually work and do a bit of blow on the weekend - they’re not getting any help.

  • @cassidyholmes1353
    @cassidyholmes1353 ปีที่แล้ว

    She’s such a great reporter!

  • @lanestaley1401
    @lanestaley1401 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Vancouver supplies 1 /3 of organ transplants now. Why doesn't any one mention where the organs come from. Fentynal overdoses. A friend works matching organs to patients told me there aren't the wait times there used to be. I can't help but wonder if that if there is an incentive to keep the o.d.s happening

  • @OneAzzholesOpinion
    @OneAzzholesOpinion ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The DTES is literally a city of the walking dead it's so sad how far we can let people fall before we even notice there's a problem. Build affordable hosing in the 1000's of units, make out patient mental health care free for the poor, and go back to prosecuting criminals. JFC solving the problem isn't that hard just expensive. I've lived in Vancouver for 23 years and watched it's almost utter collapse as a relatively affordable, beautiful, and safe city.

    • @1247.cccccc
      @1247.cccccc ปีที่แล้ว

      They have sent legions of 'clients' out to Chilliwack to suit the social workers that want to live in the Fraser Valley. The hardcore population downtown are not the only ones in the lower mainland. The profit is in keeping the sanitarium in the public space or rentals.

  • @h.5283
    @h.5283 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG I went to this nail salon in 2018 and sit the spot where the lady was! I didn’t expect this issue increased dramatically 😢

  • @Azel247
    @Azel247 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    We must remember that the drug users and addicts are human beings and entitled to the basic human rights that everyone has. However, actions have consequences and being under the influence does not excuse you from the responsibility of your actions. It may not be their fault in terms of intentionality, but the only person to blame for the crime is the person who did the crime. The consequence needs to be severe enough to be a deterrent.

    • @clarkejanot8423
      @clarkejanot8423 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well said. Everyone wants their rights but hates the responsibilitym

    • @craigday1759
      @craigday1759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tell that to the family of the guy that got his head cut off in Sault Ste. Marie Ont. by three guys that got 2 yrs less a day for threre actions. They said it was bc of booze and drugs that it happen. The judge agreed that these guys were under the influence and Does excuse them from responsibility of their actions. 2 yrs,. Less a day what a joke

    • @Azel247
      @Azel247 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@craigday1759 I literally wrote "actions have consequences and being under the influence does not excuse you from the responsibility of your actions." Should probably tell that to the judge rather than the family of the victim. We need a better justice system.

  • @lanestaley1401
    @lanestaley1401 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yah I remember when you didn't need to lock your doors in the dtes. It was back in the year never

  • @frenchyroastify
    @frenchyroastify ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a long time Vancouverite, that was some fantastic reporting.

  • @thehmc
    @thehmc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Way to go CBC. You finally got to this story years after conservatives were covering the problem.

  • @ttul
    @ttul ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I closed down my Gastown office after someone randomly hit my marketing guy in the teeth with a hammer. Oh, and then someone hit my operations guy. Oh, and then someone stole my dog and bashed me in the head with a tennis racket. Oh, and then someone was spotted loading a gun in the alley. Oh, and then the office was broken into and $15,000 worth of laptops were stolen.
    I’m not making a statement on the solution. But the symptoms of the problem are egregiously unacceptable in a democratic society. While I was attacked, stolen from, and frightened many times while going to and from work, I also saw many beautiful things. DTES residents are kinder to each other than your average Canadian. Although they suffer mightily, they are generous and caring. Every time you hear a siren, that’s someone’s friend going down. The tragic end of a tragic life that is no less human than yours.

  • @galegrazutis964
    @galegrazutis964 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am not from Canada but in my country this would not be tolerated for a single minute. All these scum would be locked up in prison wher they deserve to be. It completely boggles my mind that a decent taxpaying citizens has to live this way.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Singapore and the Philippines, they would be executed.

  • @theriansadventure
    @theriansadventure ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Every human needs food, a safe place to sleep, a way to clean themselves and love. Only when these basic needs are met can they think about improving their situation.

  • @rafae5902
    @rafae5902 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saying that they contribute to anything other than to make people not wanting to live there is a very bad taste joke tbh

  • @rickbold9337
    @rickbold9337 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Imagine being on a cruise ship and looking forward to seeing Vancouver for the first time and stepping off the ship with your kids into that mess!

  • @randyc7351
    @randyc7351 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yhese poor business owmers. I am glad they are finally being interviewed

  • @gellichan09
    @gellichan09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's starting to happen in my city too. Before, I felt safe even if I walked alone at night (as a woman) in downtown. The past couple years, I would think twice going to downtown even in the daylight. It's all the same reasons and causes, mental health and crime. But of course, it's the government that lacks action.

  • @weschampagne
    @weschampagne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Social housing, gang. We NEED social housing.

  • @greghallberg4182
    @greghallberg4182 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Twas in another lifetime, one of toil and blood
    When blackness was a virtue; the road was full of mud
    I came in from the wilderness, a creature void of form
    Come in, she said I'll give ya' shelter from the storm
    I was burned out from exhaustion, buried in the hail
    Poisoned in the bushes an' blown out on the trail
    Hunted like a crocodile, ravaged in the corn
    Come in, she said I'll give ya' shelter from the storm"
    - Bob Dylan

  • @greggferstay5673
    @greggferstay5673 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Our beautiful City has gone to Pot , 7-10 people a day dying from drugs with Fentanyl - First Responders
    and the Police have to deal with this - We have to fix things here in Canada first and stop the continued
    Mass Immigration by the government - about 1/3 of the people just ran out of money as things are so
    expensive = $1500 to $2000 a month for a 1 bedroom suite !

  • @brexit9279
    @brexit9279 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15minute city signs are now up in Canada. There is a sample at the corner of Kent and Catherine in Ottawa, on a new lot! 😮

  • @danielkopaee9241
    @danielkopaee9241 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our problem! Exactly!

  • @markatal5394
    @markatal5394 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Reporting

  • @Littlepaw7
    @Littlepaw7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They need hospitalization first to determine if they can live on their own safely for them and the public. They need mandatory in patient rehab to decide who is salvageable who can be brought back to a productive life drug free. They need affordable housing for those with jobs that are living in their cars and motels/ hotels and with family or on the streets. Gentrification must not increase rent it must be community friendly. If we reallocated money we waste
    like bidens 44 million dollars for an electric bus charging station that is the cost for one. Stop helping other countries provide healthcare, secure borders ect when ours is open and costing us money to care for others before our own. The American people are tired of being in wars and conflicts and want our country to be the priority. We want our country great again with strong leadership to work with the American people on solutions but they have to come back to the everyday citizens level. And most of all they have to give a chit about the American people and not their political agenda and interests. I am sure their is plenty wasteful spending projects that can be reallocated. What happened to all the, unspent plandemic money? How about our leaders go thru their personal budgets and pay for their own gas, phones ect to save money to reallocate to the people.

  • @TaraZsun
    @TaraZsun ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is good. Getting the opinion of the business owners and the owners are showing compassion towards the people who are struggling. Everyone just wants things to be taken care of.

    • @1247.cccccc
      @1247.cccccc ปีที่แล้ว

      All the little BIAs are a total racket. Stealing from tenants to divide the public voice; very clever policy.

  • @bmolitor615
    @bmolitor615 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One word - Riverview.

  • @greg6935
    @greg6935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed your presentation. It brings a very valid question to the east side. However, it is no longer the East side that is being destroyed it is the downtown center and its surrounding areas. The government of Canada let us down by their horrific lax of drug laws and allowing the situation to get out of hand. I have been doing out reach in the Hastings area for over 8 years...ant having a huge police station in the heart of it and nothing was being done is a crime in its self. I would see openly dugs dealers selling in front of police and they did nothing. Drugs are the largest killers of our people than anything else, and because of the legalization of drugs it is getting worse.
    My solution would be to build a complex far from the city center that would house and detransition the individuals from druggie to clean productive members through a multi disciplinary program. Offering counseling, jobs in the facility, animals to increase their positivity like horses and other. Get them working and learning skills. The products they .are can be sold to help pay for the facility. Moreover, Christian studies would also be introduced...all of this with rehab treatment.
    Hiw can domeobe get off if drugs if they have no game, nothing to keep them bust, nothing to have faith in and no hope for the future. The facility would be very remote so they are away from the tantalizing lifestyle. This would be a long term facility..maybe for 1 to 2 years depending. All of the money the government waists..could easily pay for the Co structure of such a place.
    Nothing will change unless the government leads...so far they have done a very poor job in creating a viable solution.
    Thanks again for the presentation.
    You should investigate and follow up with the government and police. See what they say about it. Statistics are clear on the issue and a very good visualization is apparent

  • @fromtheparkbench1979
    @fromtheparkbench1979 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏 Bang on piece, Lien! 👏
    I am one of the homeless here in Edmonton.
    Where it went wrong?
    It was too ignored for too long and now is outta control everywhere.
    Closing the barn door after all the horses have left, so to say.
    2023 Approach for a 2023 Problem...
    Our Premier Smith and police, etc, are working on "The Alberta Model" and I suspect it is going expand the "insanity law" to include drug addicts - if you are a harm to yourself or others - you can 'forced' into involuntary rehab.
    See, most kids are scared to go, but know they have, and want, to. You might get only mild resistance.
    With/by using Cognitive Behavior Therapy as a strong part of rehab for Complex(Childhood) PTSD, I have personally seen the 'lights go on' in their eyes...their smiles and determination returns, and most leave the community for a better life.
    CV plus previous childhood trauma + financial difficulties sent a lot of people down here. We have to stop having, "systemic prejudism against homeless people", stop painting ALL of them with the same 'pint brush' and divide to conquer a problem.
    We homeless people are so tired of all the 'talk-about, talk-about', each of these U of Whichever University's graduates NOT asking US what works and what is a waste of taxpayers dollars, and OUR time! Thanks.

  • @tangentquo7996
    @tangentquo7996 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After fentanyl it dropped. After Neuro toxicicity in the accommodations (mold asbestos giardia and VOC's) increased dramatically with the last great rain a fears yeas ago, and people are getting 'sick' in their rooms).

  • @alextoronto5840
    @alextoronto5840 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No sympathy for these adults on drugs. Go and seek treatment you have to want to help yourself.

  • @erictay-s1t
    @erictay-s1t ปีที่แล้ว +3

    drunk guy's interruption was funny .he seems to be going thru transformation . drunk are only bad if getting violent. he just kept walking after he was told they aren't interested in his $100, 000 story he was he wanted to share . i think there should be neighbourhood allowed for non violent drunk story tellers 😁 .keep walking man sounded polite request complied with . with no further interruption. you can't reason with emotions. if govt can provide shelters why would they wanna be out in tents ?

  • @lizliz4186
    @lizliz4186 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Why aren't the police out there moving ppl asking, doing crowd control? They don't need to be arrested just keep ppl moving.

    • @clarifyingquestions
      @clarifyingquestions ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the so called security companies that "patrol" the area.

    • @michellerose1190
      @michellerose1190 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know what evile police do to vulnerable people right - the beatings, incarceration deaths, sexual assaults, murder? If you don't have enough money, social status, or people who have your back, the sheets will attack. If government did it's job, there would not be this problem. Become too sick to work, get injured on the job, be maimed by a medical procedure, become a single parent, or have a disabled child/children and find out the truth about the gov of profit over people. #defundthepolice

    • @EBikes420
      @EBikes420 ปีที่แล้ว

      Personally, someone on disability doesn't get the amount of support they need, including financial support. Most of the people on disability only receive $375 for rent/housing, sure it's going up to $525, but that is a joke, where can anyone find housing for such little amount? After which most will turn to drugs and stay on the streets against their will.

    • @leebosley5984
      @leebosley5984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Move them to where? The other neighbouring more civilized hoods definitely don't want them either..

  • @cheungnth
    @cheungnth ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well thanks for taking down the tents so now this population has moved eastward. I’m in the Brentwood area and now every other day the drugstore gets robbed. Correct, there is no easy solution. But letting drug users rob stores and doing nothing isn’t going to help.

  • @mstt3530
    @mstt3530 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:01, is there a guy getting high in the back?

    • @notinservice3724
      @notinservice3724 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      looks like lol

    • @alanj9978
      @alanj9978 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the DTES, there's always someone getting high nearby.

  • @rishi505
    @rishi505 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LAST 8 year of Justin T is worse year in Canada . HOME CRISIS is big issue .

  • @carrieho1890
    @carrieho1890 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great reporting & thank you for covering this.

  • @JRRN-y4k
    @JRRN-y4k 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is happening with vancouver? Is it still worth immigrating to this city?

  • @andrewteasdale8999
    @andrewteasdale8999 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reporter is adorable!

  • @Twkd1988
    @Twkd1988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you mean removing the tents didn't magically place the homeless people in a home? :O

  • @limbicnode3342
    @limbicnode3342 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What would happen if our tax dollars stopped going to drug /needle exchange programs? What would happen if we stopped supporting people racing to the bottom of society? Would their numbers just decrease since there are no mechanisms in place to support the next generation? I do know a lot of people that rely of the "homeless market" would prob be out of their gov jobs.
    I was in Vancouver a decade ago and thought it was bad, I'm thinking what ever the politicians did then and are doing now is very clearly not working , well not working for the common tax paying person but the drug addicts they seem to be doing fine.

    • @rickybobby5153
      @rickybobby5153 ปีที่แล้ว

      A decade ago the country wasn’t being flooded with fentanyl from China. They’d be dead - that’s what would happen.

    • @user-vg8ox3he1i
      @user-vg8ox3he1i ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What would happen if we stopped spending money on fire fighters? Would fires just stop?
      No. The problem would get worse.

  • @jameshanson9099
    @jameshanson9099 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ask them who they voted for cbc!! ABC didnt have the solution but still people voted for them so now what?

  • @markcunningham5655
    @markcunningham5655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You want to improve safety. Get rid of all the Criminal Police Officers and Politicians. No other way will suffice. You did it remove tents. you made absolutely sure it even more dangerous for homeless people

  • @ManKan510
    @ManKan510 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "You can't really fault an insane person for doing insane things"

  • @deadreckoning425
    @deadreckoning425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the fault of the government so maybe we should fix the top first since fixing the bottom will mean nothing until this gets done first!

  • @abrasionthermals9172
    @abrasionthermals9172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Walk by looking on the ground: I didn't use to have to do this now I'm a weirdo for having to avoid feces 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @robertyoshimaru9410
    @robertyoshimaru9410 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good interview but I don't like the inference that removing the tents was a bad idea

  • @nowistime8070
    @nowistime8070 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you are a good reporter
    we need the Alberta plan

  • @joyceyeh9375
    @joyceyeh9375 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question? Before we didn't see this kind situation why now ? Did u see any cities in the world like us ? I wonder. BC health should look into the serious problem as well as housing at the same time.

    • @EBikes420
      @EBikes420 ปีที่แล้ว

      Personally, someone on disability doesn't get the amount of support they need, including financial support. Most of the people on disability only receive $375 for rent/housing, sure it's going up to $525, but that is a joke, where can anyone find housing for such little amount? After which most will turn to drugs and stay on the streets against their will.

    • @rupasandhu6061
      @rupasandhu6061 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drug use was illegal. No marijuana stores. The problem may have not been dealt with correctly, but regardless it was contained.

    • @rickybobby5153
      @rickybobby5153 ปีที่แล้ว

      You didn’t see it here because Canada wasn’t being flooded with fentanyl from China and the Harper govt introduced the FIPA act putting the entire country up for sale to Chinese foreign investors to launder money in canadas real estate market

  • @TheheavyMentalShow
    @TheheavyMentalShow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if Limbo have tent citie?

  • @hiphophistorycanada
    @hiphophistorycanada 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As long as UGM, The salvation army and the Carnigie center is there, it will never ever change and why should it? the poor was there before any of those business were and if they were real business' they knew that going in.

  • @mitchbarredo3990
    @mitchbarredo3990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Horrific. And its all over this once nice country.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Quebec doesn't have this problem, Montreal aside.

  • @jonathanrussell6352
    @jonathanrussell6352 ปีที่แล้ว

    Taking the tents left them with nothing, how is that helping?

  • @shaanbirk612
    @shaanbirk612 ปีที่แล้ว

    i saw a homeless lady there and she had 8 cats with her cats looked like in pain

  • @themanyouwanttobe
    @themanyouwanttobe ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they expect people to leave? There was nowhere to go. Maybe they'll hitch a ride to Langley the next time the trucker convoy comes through.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      80% of Vancouver's homeless are from out of province. Transportation is not an issue.

  • @FreeJulianAssange23
    @FreeJulianAssange23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Homeless island

  • @madisongeronimo6859
    @madisongeronimo6859 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m sorry but it’s unrelated but I think Chris D looks handsome

  • @RedSquirreLx
    @RedSquirreLx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They need a harder approach. El Salvador style. That will fix things real quick. 100%.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How about Singapore/Philippines style?

  • @tigerrider6711
    @tigerrider6711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is this balanced reporting? This is why people can’t stand the legacy media, you only publish viewpoints that advocate for the drug users and don’t present a single view of tougher enforcement of drugs. You honestly want us to believe that opinion doesn’t exist out there?

  • @torpedohost
    @torpedohost ปีที่แล้ว

    so selfish has she even thought about maybe she is infringing on those mass people without homes

  • @infowarriorone
    @infowarriorone ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The war on drugs (among other things) has led to this, and it's one area in which a change in policy can improve the lives of everyone involved. It's gone on long enough, it's time to end prohibition.

    • @cavelleardiel
      @cavelleardiel ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Watch Canada is dying and see if you still think the same

    • @Euphorica
      @Euphorica ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Allowing more access is making it worse

    • @rickybobby5153
      @rickybobby5153 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Euphorica They’re not dying from prescription opioids. They’re dying from fentanyl being shipped from China

  • @nildaaimini1954
    @nildaaimini1954 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its a shame ,the owners of business pay taxes it is not fair ,people living in the streets.Citizens pay their taxes ,those people must be cured ,if they are homeless ,the state canadian government has got money to build appartments.Less politique and more action
    In U SA IS THE SAME