"look at this Took, isn't he neat? Wouldn't you say my collection's complete? Wouldn't you think I'm Colbert, Colbert who has, Hobbitses?" *"Something something Something* I got to be, part of their, wooooooooooorld"
@@Benjamin.J.Holliday I've got Bagginses and Boffinses a plenty, I've got Vanyars and Noldors galore! You want a middle earth book collection? I've got 20!........But who cares........no big deal..............I wAAAANT MooooOOOOOOORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stephen: remains calm with Presidents, grand old ladies of the stage, music legends, and noble prize winners. Also Stephen: Can’t conceal excitement over two hobbits.
The cutest thing is that Stephen is clearly so nervous to talk to these guys. He is genuinely in that celebrity meeting shock frame of mind and that’s so cute. He’s nerdy but also unabashed about what he admires and leans in to his inner geek.
Why would be someone unabashed about a masterpiece thats holds deep true real life meaningful realization about life ?!? You dumb for even bringing that loser mentality idea
@@סטסאנטיפוב-ק9ב yeah ik people blather about nerdy, geeky. SHUT UP. This isn’t about being a nerd, it’s about having passion for one of the greatest pieces of literature ever!
The fact that Steven just whipped out The Fellowship and flipped to a passage like he's the head of the Church of Tolkien just made my entire year! Please please PLEASE, BillyDom, do an episode of TFO with Steven!
Who wishes they could go back to 2001-03 and experience the LOTR movie trilogy in the theatre's once more on opening night? I'll never forget the buzz of excitement that flowed through the audience for each movie. It was electric and incredibly emotional. You had to be there to truly 'get' how much of a big deal these movies were. I wouldn't trade those experiences/memories for anything.
A theater near me is screening the extended editions this weekend, so of course we've had to go see it. And it's MAGICAL getting to take my son to see the trilogy in theaters when he's the same age I was when I saw Fellowship in theaters when it released
Made my day: Favorite late night host with two actors from my favorite movies... And then I read this... one of my favorite musicians :) Have a great day full of more smiles :) (Bad English due to being German xD)
"Sweet is the sound of the pouring rain And the stream that falls from the hill to plain Better than rain or a rippling brook is a mug of beer inside this Took."
I think the fear with nudity in LotR is that the show will attempt to capitalise on the popularity of GoT and cosequently won't honour LotR. Graphic nudity and sex scenes are not in the spirit of LotR.
I actually don't mind a little bit of nudity, if done correctly. But then the 2nd age is a boring age for any "hot" scene, really. There are no great love story, no great tragedy. The entire age revolves around Sauron running around scamming people. What storyline can they squeeze a sex scene out of? Some political infighting plots in the Numenorean royal family? Boring!
@@sushivision Oh you can be sure they'll try and force a love story in there like they did in the hobbit with that elf girl that doesn't exist in the books.
Billy and Dom were so perfect for those roles. So adorable you think "Please dont hurt the hobbits" through out the entire movie. Focus on thier normal facial expressions.are just so cute. Just mezmorizing. I am such a fan. Watch the movie over and over and see new amazing features of brilliance every time.
Merry has super C3-P0 energy. He's more high strung, more nervous, more neurotic. Pippin is super R2-D2, he's more chill, more apt to get in a bad spot due to recklessness, but is extremely loyal and clever. Also, difficult to understand sometimes.
Dominic Monaghan, the only celebrity I ever had the pleasure of meeting. Extremely kind to write a short rhyme for my sisters birthday as Merry. She was over the moon. Got to watch the movies... again.
The genuine and lasting friendship between these two always makes me happy. I started listening to the Moriarty podcast recently with Dom and was enjoying it, but it got SO MUCH BETTER when Billy Boyd came up as Sebastian Moran! How stupid was I not to have seen that coming? Of course Billy Boyd was going to be in it as Dom's partner!
Hey! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe Rain may fall and wind may blow But there still be many miles to go Sweet is the sound of the pouring pain And the stream that falls from hill to plain Better than rain or rippling brook Is a mug of beer inside this Took
Billy & Dom have a highly enviable friendship and degree of happiness, as well as success. Most people I imagine long for a relationship and a joie de vivre like theirs.
I would pay MONEY for this. Have another D&D session with Matt Mercer (maybe some other friends too!), invite essentially the entire cast of LotR on, have discussions with creators and writers and fans and Tolkien scholars. Trivia sessions/pub quizzes. Deep dives. Personal stories, thoughts and opinions. This would be an absolute dream.
The way Stephen lit up when he said "that was very good actually" My heart lol. BRB gotta binge all of the extended editions real quick. See you in 13-15 hours
I watched the monologue, went out knowing I had this to look forward to - Stephen and 'hobbits' - even better than I hoped for - Stephen and LoTR is just *pure happiness* - I'm so happy he is happy ❤🧝♂️🧙♂️🧝♀️❤
I instantly fell in love with it and bc of that he played a major role in my decision to only watch the OV since early teen years which annoyed my parents but definitely helped learning English 😂❤️
Billy and Dominic, we all love you dearly and wish you the greatest of love and success in your lives!!!!! You are absolutely amazing actors and we could not have asked for better men to portray such awesome characters. OUT-F'N-STANDING!
A Tolkien fact Stephen doesn’t know- the origin of Malbeth the Seer. Tolkien was my grandfather’s tutor at Oxford right after WWI. My mother’s name was Mariel Elisabeth which my grandparents shortened to Malbeth. Tolkien collected unusual names and my mother became Malbeth the Seer!
Omg this just made my day! Love to hear those ascents...my grada & gmom, aunties & uncles were all born in Scotland. We sure do love to dance, sing & drink! Let's gig 😁
I think the point about nakedness is really important though, they got a laugh but honestly it is a big theme in the entire world. This scene illustrates both the innocence of the hobbits and the nature of Tom as the master. Compare that chapter with Homeward Bound in Book 3 and the particular loss of innocence of Frodo but really all of the hobbits. Non-sexual love and acceptance, a brotherhood that drew these hobbits, then men, elf and dwarf as close as family is the central theme of the story. Our society these days look at that and say it has to be sexual and homoerotic, the depiction of Aragon's masculinity, the devotion Sam has to Frodo and the love Frodo has for Sam back Gimli and legolas love for each other transcends ancient hatred of each others race.
I agree completely. And I have been afraid of how Netflix can so easily ruin it. I really hate “modern” takes on classic literature. It’s great for a reason. I couldn’t watch the Hobbit movies because I was so disgusted with the first one.
Yeah, definelty not the same sort of nudity as the creatively bankrupt shit that we get now, where 1/4 of the run time of shows is just drawn out garbage soft core porn scenes because its easy and cheap to film two people dry humping in a dim room.
Hollywood has always had this weird relationship with nudity. It's like it's always got to be sexual which means it's always bad. It's like their uncomfortable just allowing people in their natural state so it has to lead to something. It's so stupid.
And they could still take the same values of love and acceptance, wholesome masculinity, camaraderie and everything that make Tolkien's world so wonderful into sex scenes, and nudity, not all sex scenes have to be toxic and exploitative , I think it could be done well depending on the tone of the adaptation and the content matter, but if it feels out of place and done only for shock value I would be the first one to complaint
These guys play the boys as I experienced them when I read the BOOK back in the '70's. Thanks for your performance!! Have a little pipeweed for your trouble and maybe a little meal!!
2 things. First, the context of the nudity is important within Tolkien's work, because the nudity is innocent and non-sexual, when it is almost guaranteed to be sexual in the show. Second, there is a difference between seeing something and reading something.
I don't have a problem with nudity at all, but I actually do think LOTR is an example of a world where sexual tones in general isn't very fitting.. It's all very romantic and epic.. but very far from sexual... It just wouldnt fit the tone of the universe very well.
@@MaMastoast exactly. And as a fairly devote Roman Catholic and theologian, I doubt that Tolkien would very much appreciate his work turning pornographic for ratings. It's sad that the main way to engage casual audiences is just by throwing in explicit material.
@@nathanielroffel4304 I mean I have to disagree with your premise that having sexual content means that it is pornographic... I think it's perfectly fine to have sexual content and I don't think portraying people having sex is inherently pornographic. I don't know where you are from, but I find that many americans are taught to be afraid of nudity and have a very different view of nudity in media than I do... I grew up in the 90's where Danish films(I'm danish :P ) would often have casual nudity and semi-sexual content for films ment for kids.. It wasn't pornographic or a big deal.. To me, it is all about the tone of the universe.. sex is appropriate for a world that is grounded and is ment to feel relateable... Tolkien is epic and grand..fantastical.. it's like folklore.. so having things like sex would feel off.
@@MaMastoast I agree. And yes, I do agree that nudity is not always sexual or pornographic, but the ways that the potential nudity has been presented are similar to that of GoT, which, at times, is extremely pornographic. There is a time and place for nudity, tasteful or not (depending on one's perspective), but I agree with you that this is not the place. Hypersexualization is a scourge on popular media, and it should have no place in this universe, because it is not a component that was ever important to the story. Yes there are intimate relationships in LotR, but the intimacy is not focalized on sex or sexuality, which runs completely counter to modern North American culture. Sex, in a lot of ways, isn't even seen as intimate anymore, which means it has even less of a reason to be there, considering that LotR is about platonic intimacy, friendship, and love
@@nathanielroffel4304 Hmm I think game of thrones has elements of both non pornographic sexual content and clearly pornographic sexual content.. We may differ in opinion here, but as an example; I think the scene of Danaerys being raped by kharl drogo is clearly explicit and sexual but I wouldn't call it pornographic.. it has a good reason to be there and helps us understand the characters and the kind of world we find ourselves in On the other hand, the scene with one of the sand snakes pressing her tits up against the prison bars with the camera lingering on her body is obviously pornographic. My perception of american culture is that they seem to be very much ashamed of it, something to hide and something as innocent as a nude body should be kept away from kids ect... at the same time there is obviously also the sexualisation you mentioned going on.. And I think the two inform eachother. But yea, think you struck a nail with regards to intimacy.. LOTR is full of it, close bonds and relationships.. be it romantic or friendly.. It's more on an a existential level rather than physical.. Similarly we wouldn't expect a long torture scene in LOTR; and while we can certainly imply that torture happens.. it's more about the dread rather than gore.
I hesitate to say this but... I'm a 56 yr old Native American grandma. I have never seen Lord of the Rings. In my defense I did see The Hobbit, which I loved! I have seen snippets here and there of the LOTR trilogy. I know that beautiful Liv Tyler is in one of the movies. I just never had anyone to watch it with. I need to watch them all. I feel so out of the loop. It's like hearing of Star Wars but only ever seeing A New Hope. This tragedy must not continue! Anybody want to volunteer to watch the Trilogy with me? I don't even have a vcr tape or dvd set to watch. I am of course embarrassed and my mom is just shaking her head from her final resting place.
I would love to, except I'm a continent away so that might be a bit of a problem. But you should definitely do it, it's a fine trilogy that made me, as a book-lover, a little frustrated at points but is close enough for me to still enjoy it.
You will love it, and it is never too late to enjoy it! Ask folks at your local community centre who wants a watch party together, or ask the local library to host one, if you want a group experience. It's the wholesome, feel good, amazing, spectacular adventure movies that will never age out, and always make for a great group watch party! Have fun, sending best wishes from Perth, Western Australia and one of my Greek ancestors married a Lakota I think the tribe name is.
“Is a mug of beer inside this Took!” Is the line Stephen was thinking of! That’s when the Hobbits were signing in the actual Green Dragon in the Shire!
3:12 This is the happiest I have ever seen Stephen, apart from the way he is with Evie. 🤩😍🤩😍🤩😍🧙♂️ Listen to how happy the crowd is for him. He actually must have peed himself a little. I sure would. I love this show. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💚
This interview and the one with Will Arnett are two where Stephen shows absolute enjoyment and the interviews were amazing. I have watched the, over and over simply because everyone is so happy and relaxed and funny!
“There was Eru, the One, who in Arda is called Ilúvatar; and he made first the Ainur, the Holy Ones, that were the offspring of his thought, and they were with him before aught else was made.”
Very Old Testament. The Catholic mythologizing of Tolkien is more or less what ruined it for me. Angels and saints: we don't need no stinking Ainur. By the by: my father bought the first edition as it came out (fold out maps) and I first read the Hobbit in primary school, LotR by 8th grade. I was a founding member of the Tolkien Society of America and met WH Auden at one of their get togethers. This was before the ACE paperbacks were issued and the exclusivity of the whole world fell apart, but that's not my complaint. LotR is a rousing adventure with mostly 2 dimensional characters in a fight of good against evil. But it's not great literature. Oh, well.
@@davidyohalem629 It explains the magic system, it builds the world and mythos... I'm a massive atheist, but the religiosity of The Silmarillion doesn't bother me at all.
@@AuntieDawnsKitchen I interpret the Holy Ones as analogous to the old testament angels (Lucifer, Gabriel, Astoroth, et al.) Under a monotheistic conceiver, the Tetragramaton, Yahweh called whatever suits you. LoTR is more nordic than the middle earth theology expounded in the Silmarilion. Just sayin'.
Stephen’s entire career is one giant scheme to get to meet LOTR actors
Welp, it works
"look at this Took, isn't he neat? Wouldn't you say my collection's complete? Wouldn't you think I'm Colbert, Colbert who has, Hobbitses?"
*"Something something Something* I got to be, part of their, wooooooooooorld"
You're not wrong
@@Benjamin.J.Holliday I've got Bagginses and Boffinses a plenty, I've got Vanyars and Noldors galore! You want a middle earth book collection? I've got 20!........But who cares........no big deal..............I wAAAANT MooooOOOOOOORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He should have joined their zoom reunion.
Seeing Colbert’s eyes light up like a kid on Christmas morning when Pippin complimented his “second breakfast” line is wholesome AF.
time stamp?
@@binx414 1:55ish
Yeah he's trying so hard to play it cool, but he's clearly so genuinely pleased.
I noticed that too!
@@Bookworm8793 thx!
@@Bookworm8793 daasadadsassaaaasssssssd
Stephen: remains calm with Presidents, grand old ladies of the stage, music legends, and noble prize winners.
Also Stephen: Can’t conceal excitement over two hobbits.
Right?!? I love it!!!
I mean... They bow to no one. ;)
He looks like a 10 year old boy, it's precious
Nobel. Nothing noble about them.
@@sylviatamieanan4088 MYYYYY PRECIOUS !
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
It is a magical thing to see the Merry & Pippin actors being insane friends in real life
For real. Their chemistry is on another level
20 years later and Lord of the Rings is still a huge deal
This also made my 47 year old geek girl heart melt!!
67 years later. The books are immediately a classic from release.
It will forever be.
in a not so small part due to SC geeking out at every opportunity.
200 years from now and it will still be a huge deal.
The cutest thing is that Stephen is clearly so nervous to talk to these guys. He is genuinely in that celebrity meeting shock frame of mind and that’s so cute. He’s nerdy but also unabashed about what he admires and leans in to his inner geek.
Why would be someone unabashed about a masterpiece thats holds deep true real life meaningful realization about life ?!? You dumb for even bringing that loser mentality idea
@@סטסאנטיפוב-ק9ב Plenty people have for years actually, about many things
@@סטסאנטיפוב-ק9ב yeah ik people blather about nerdy, geeky. SHUT UP. This isn’t about being a nerd, it’s about having passion for one of the greatest pieces of literature ever!
The fact that Steven just whipped out The Fellowship and flipped to a passage like he's the head of the Church of Tolkien just made my entire year! Please please PLEASE, BillyDom, do an episode of TFO with Steven!
So true!
I have a friend who does that. Her book is in laces (but patched up), I do believe she reads it every day
They're as delighted that Stephens such a big fan as Stephens delighted they are there.
Who wishes they could go back to 2001-03 and experience the LOTR movie trilogy in the theatre's once more on opening night? I'll never forget the buzz of excitement that flowed through the audience for each movie. It was electric and incredibly emotional. You had to be there to truly 'get' how much of a big deal these movies were. I wouldn't trade those experiences/memories for anything.
I know exactly what you mean. I went to see all three movies with the same friend, and yes, it was an incredibly special experience.
A theater near me is screening the extended editions this weekend, so of course we've had to go see it. And it's MAGICAL getting to take my son to see the trilogy in theaters when he's the same age I was when I saw Fellowship in theaters when it released
Stephen's like a kid when LOTR is involved. It's like seeing your hero's come true to life.
The best part is that when he meets these heroes, they never disappoint!
he's Phil Coulson meeting Captain America.
heroes* :)
no words, just smiles 😊
Made my day:
Favorite late night host with two actors from my favorite movies...
And then I read this... one of my favorite musicians :)
Have a great day full of more smiles :)
(Bad English due to being German xD)
Oooo I love you Karliene🥰
Just for the record...the Friendship Onion is fantastic. Every bit as funny and charming as Dom and Billy.
"Sweet is the sound of the pouring rain
And the stream that falls from the hill to plain
Better than rain or a rippling brook is a mug of beer inside this Took."
And then that one Rohan guy gets a lap-full of ale.
Beat me to it!
My son even knew that one. Colbert loses two points on his super fan status. He still got fifty for having these two on.
Hey! Ho! To the pub I go!
To heal my heart, and drown my woe.
Rain may fall, and wind may blow
But there’ll still be
Many miles to go
I was singing it at the tv when they were trying to remember what it was
For anyone wondering, yes. This interview is exactly what their podcast is like
It really is - I've been listening to it (and watching it) religiously ever since it first came out. :)
Billy Boyd shaking Stephen’s hand and genuinely saying, “absolute pleasure!”, makes my heart happy.
These two are a ray of sunshine. Now I'm off to rewatch the LOTR trilogy for the 1000th time
this interview is just for him, the audience literally doesn't matter here...and its fine!!!
Stephen's face during the drinking song, pure happiness.
The other song they were talking about is in the Fellowship of the Ring, just before Gandalf returns and sets Frodo and Sam on their journey.
Whoever hasn’t listened to the podcast yet, give it a go! It is so delightful to listen to. Their banter is effortless.
Stephen is living a fantasy right now. You can see the pure joy on his face.
I think the fear with nudity in LotR is that the show will attempt to capitalise on the popularity of GoT and cosequently won't honour LotR. Graphic nudity and sex scenes are not in the spirit of LotR.
EXACTLY!!!!!
I actually don't mind a little bit of nudity, if done correctly. But then the 2nd age is a boring age for any "hot" scene, really. There are no great love story, no great tragedy. The entire age revolves around Sauron running around scamming people. What storyline can they squeeze a sex scene out of? Some political infighting plots in the Numenorean royal family? Boring!
@@sushivision Oh you can be sure they'll try and force a love story in there like they did in the hobbit with that elf girl that doesn't exist in the books.
Y'all need to read The Silmarillion
@@LandStrider23 can you tell which page it mentions a love story in the fall of numenor?
Billy and Dom were so perfect for those roles. So adorable you think "Please dont hurt the hobbits" through out the entire movie. Focus on thier normal facial expressions.are just so cute. Just mezmorizing. I am such a fan. Watch the movie over and over and see new amazing features of brilliance every time.
Stephen is just the most wonderful nerd. Gotta love him. Bless his precious heart
I love seeing Stephen light up. He's so excited, but he's also like "I'm a professional dammit!"
they've taken the Hobbits to Stephen Colbert 😍
Old school meme
The hobbits, the hobbits, the hobbits, the hobbits - to Steve Colbert, to Steve Colbert?
Tell me, where is Gandalf, for Steven would like to speak with him... :-)
*plays Concerning Hobbits on kazoo*
LMAO! YOU win the internet for today! I see what ya did tharrr
I'm in my late forties. Keep that in mind while I run in circles and squeal with delight.
*co-sign*
I'm giggling like a school girl too ...and I'm a grumpy dude who turns 50 later this year!
This made my late 40s geek girl heart melt!!
Mid-40s, hard same :)
Look at all you middle-aged nerds
You can just see Stephen absolutely fan boy the whole interview
These two are so deeply delightful. What a great interview.
So sweet to see my friends, been so long, even for an Ent.
These threes have the greatest chemistry I've never smiled so much at an interview xd
Love Stephen fan boying! That smile is a pure gift!!
I always liked how Dominic and Billy looked like they had a good time making those movies.
They literally had the most laidback roles for most of the trilogy. Just 2 best buds having fun, adventurin and smokin longbottom leaf
Oh for the love of Iluvatar, Merry's obviously the R2 of the pair. He helped slayed the Nazgul!
Merry has super C3-P0 energy. He's more high strung, more nervous, more neurotic. Pippin is super R2-D2, he's more chill, more apt to get in a bad spot due to recklessness, but is extremely loyal and clever. Also, difficult to understand sometimes.
I don't think they were talking about Merry and Pippin I think they were talking about Dom and Billy
Billy looks IDENTICAL to the C-3PO actor Anthony Daniels
My favorite quote is Gandalf loosing his temper - "Fool of a Took."
Dominic Monaghan, the only celebrity I ever had the pleasure of meeting. Extremely kind to write a short rhyme for my sisters birthday as Merry. She was over the moon.
Got to watch the movies... again.
Billy Boyd talking about this deleted scene is so funny, I can't imagine how the actual scene could have been funnier.
Aaaah, the merging of 2 of my favorite things in the world: LOTR and Stephen Colbert. Best way to wake up in the a.m. 🧙♂️
Billy Boyd is such a sweet guy!
They are so precious! What a fine people!
Billy and Dom, still the same after 20 (!) years... and Billy still giggly as a school boy. Gotta love'em both!
The genuine and lasting friendship between these two always makes me happy. I started listening to the Moriarty podcast recently with Dom and was enjoying it, but it got SO MUCH BETTER when Billy Boyd came up as Sebastian Moran! How stupid was I not to have seen that coming? Of course Billy Boyd was going to be in it as Dom's partner!
Hey! Ho! to the bottle I go
To heal my heart and drown my woe
Rain may fall and wind may blow
But there still be many miles to go
Sweet is the sound of the pouring pain
And the stream that falls from hill to plain
Better than rain or rippling brook
Is a mug of beer inside this Took
This is the one I thought they were going to sing! Sadly they did not. Maybe next time haha
Billy & Dom have a highly enviable friendship and degree of happiness, as well as success. Most people I imagine long for a relationship and a joie de vivre like theirs.
Billy Boyd sings like an Angel, his voice makes my heart weep.
It simply makes me smile. I love those two ❤️
I became a huge fan of LotR at age 11 and I’m now 29 - crazy!! Their podcast has been such a delight to listen to!
Without a doubt, two of the greatest guests you'll ever have. Two decades later, still love me some Billy and Dom. Great great podcast.
Peregrin Took please!
SC is so delightfully off the rails of fandom with these two. He is the perfect TLOTR super fan - more Tokien segments please!!!
I'm such a Tolkien fan, my first Dungeon & Dragons character was a halfling named Cerea Took!!! Stephen you are not the only old nerd out there.❤❤❤❤
I love these guys so much, I can listen to them talk forever.
I need a NERD PODCAST from Stephen. LOTR, Dune, D&D, etc...
Hell yes please! That would be amazing!
YESSS!!
His knowledge in everything nerd is unparalleled, and his circle of friends would make for outstanding guests
I would pay MONEY for this.
Have another D&D session with Matt Mercer (maybe some other friends too!), invite essentially the entire cast of LotR on, have discussions with creators and writers and fans and Tolkien scholars. Trivia sessions/pub quizzes. Deep dives. Personal stories, thoughts and opinions.
This would be an absolute dream.
Omg YES!! :D
They're so lovely, exactly like their characters in LOTR.
These two have cured my depression. 😍
"The Friendship Onion" is not strictly a LOTR podcast, it's more of a BillyDom podcast
The way Stephen lit up when he said "that was very good actually"
My heart lol. BRB gotta binge all of the extended editions real quick. See you in 13-15 hours
Steven is giddy with happiness, love it!
Dom and billy are literally the best
I watched the monologue, went out knowing I had this to look forward to - Stephen and 'hobbits' - even better than I hoped for - Stephen and LoTR is just *pure happiness* - I'm so happy he is happy ❤🧝♂️🧙♂️🧝♀️❤
Remember these guys from many many years of great British television shows.
That Scottish accent..... enough said.
And bless him, he's speaking nice and slow so everyone understands him hahahA
I instantly fell in love with it and bc of that he played a major role in my decision to only watch the OV since early teen years which annoyed my parents but definitely helped learning English 😂❤️
Billy and Dominic, we all love you dearly and wish you the greatest of love and success in your lives!!!!! You are absolutely amazing actors and we could not have asked for better men to portray such awesome characters. OUT-F'N-STANDING!
A Tolkien fact Stephen doesn’t know- the origin of Malbeth the Seer. Tolkien was my grandfather’s tutor at Oxford right after WWI. My mother’s name was Mariel Elisabeth which my grandparents shortened to Malbeth. Tolkien collected unusual names and my mother became Malbeth the Seer!
Amazing. 💚
I loved merry and pippin! they are my favourite hobbits!
Omg this just made my day! Love to hear those ascents...my grada & gmom, aunties & uncles were all born in Scotland. We sure do love to dance, sing & drink! Let's gig 😁
These two will forever be the most easily loved pair 🥰😂 always such a lovely giggle
I think the point about nakedness is really important though, they got a laugh but honestly it is a big theme in the entire world. This scene illustrates both the innocence of the hobbits and the nature of Tom as the master. Compare that chapter with Homeward Bound in Book 3 and the particular loss of innocence of Frodo but really all of the hobbits.
Non-sexual love and acceptance, a brotherhood that drew these hobbits, then men, elf and dwarf as close as family is the central theme of the story. Our society these days look at that and say it has to be sexual and homoerotic, the depiction of Aragon's masculinity, the devotion Sam has to Frodo and the love Frodo has for Sam back Gimli and legolas love for each other transcends ancient hatred of each others race.
I agree completely. And I have been afraid of how Netflix can so easily ruin it. I really hate “modern” takes on classic literature. It’s great for a reason. I couldn’t watch the Hobbit movies because I was so disgusted with the first one.
Yeah, definelty not the same sort of nudity as the creatively bankrupt shit that we get now, where 1/4 of the run time of shows is just drawn out garbage soft core porn scenes because its easy and cheap to film two people dry humping in a dim room.
Hollywood has always had this weird relationship with nudity. It's like it's always got to be sexual which means it's always bad. It's like their uncomfortable just allowing people in their natural state so it has to lead to something. It's so stupid.
And they could still take the same values of love and acceptance, wholesome masculinity, camaraderie and everything that make Tolkien's world so wonderful into sex scenes, and nudity, not all sex scenes have to be toxic and exploitative , I think it could be done well depending on the tone of the adaptation and the content matter, but if it feels out of place and done only for shock value I would be the first one to complaint
@@debshaw680 the new lotr show is made by Amazon
It would have been great if EVERYONE in the audience had sang that drinking song!
Huge Monaghan fan right back to his turn in Hettie Wainwright Investigates.
I love Stephen's enthusiasm.
Stephen geeking out with cast members from LOTR is such a joy to watch.
These guys play the boys as I experienced them when I read the BOOK back in the '70's. Thanks for your performance!! Have a little pipeweed for your trouble and maybe a little meal!!
When the hobbits finally reached puberty.
They become adults when they're about 80 years old, and become old when they reach 120 yearish age..
@@ocal6477 They reach the age of maturity at 33.
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Dude, what?
They come of age at 33, and Bilbo is an anomaly and one of THE oldest Hobbits ever.
and yet Dominic Monaghan doesn't look any older
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Can't say the same for Billy haha
These Gentlemen are absolutely Hilarious!
They need their own show.
Steven just becomes a truly Honest Fanboy when they come out.
Great interview
Fans to Dominic Monaghan -- on the streets
We are everybody
We are everybody
A dream come true for him. 👋 🇵🇪
It would be for me too.
2 things. First, the context of the nudity is important within Tolkien's work, because the nudity is innocent and non-sexual, when it is almost guaranteed to be sexual in the show. Second, there is a difference between seeing something and reading something.
I don't have a problem with nudity at all, but I actually do think LOTR is an example of a world where sexual tones in general isn't very fitting.. It's all very romantic and epic.. but very far from sexual... It just wouldnt fit the tone of the universe very well.
@@MaMastoast exactly. And as a fairly devote Roman Catholic and theologian, I doubt that Tolkien would very much appreciate his work turning pornographic for ratings. It's sad that the main way to engage casual audiences is just by throwing in explicit material.
@@nathanielroffel4304 I mean I have to disagree with your premise that having sexual content means that it is pornographic... I think it's perfectly fine to have sexual content and I don't think portraying people having sex is inherently pornographic.
I don't know where you are from, but I find that many americans are taught to be afraid of nudity and have a very different view of nudity in media than I do... I grew up in the 90's where Danish films(I'm danish :P ) would often have casual nudity and semi-sexual content for films ment for kids.. It wasn't pornographic or a big deal..
To me, it is all about the tone of the universe.. sex is appropriate for a world that is grounded and is ment to feel relateable... Tolkien is epic and grand..fantastical.. it's like folklore.. so having things like sex would feel off.
@@MaMastoast I agree. And yes, I do agree that nudity is not always sexual or pornographic, but the ways that the potential nudity has been presented are similar to that of GoT, which, at times, is extremely pornographic. There is a time and place for nudity, tasteful or not (depending on one's perspective), but I agree with you that this is not the place.
Hypersexualization is a scourge on popular media, and it should have no place in this universe, because it is not a component that was ever important to the story. Yes there are intimate relationships in LotR, but the intimacy is not focalized on sex or sexuality, which runs completely counter to modern North American culture. Sex, in a lot of ways, isn't even seen as intimate anymore, which means it has even less of a reason to be there, considering that LotR is about platonic intimacy, friendship, and love
@@nathanielroffel4304 Hmm I think game of thrones has elements of both non pornographic sexual content and clearly pornographic sexual content.. We may differ in opinion here, but as an example;
I think the scene of Danaerys being raped by kharl drogo is clearly explicit and sexual but I wouldn't call it pornographic.. it has a good reason to be there and helps us understand the characters and the kind of world we find ourselves in
On the other hand, the scene with one of the sand snakes pressing her tits up against the prison bars with the camera lingering on her body is obviously pornographic.
My perception of american culture is that they seem to be very much ashamed of it, something to hide and something as innocent as a nude body should be kept away from kids ect... at the same time there is obviously also the sexualisation you mentioned going on.. And I think the two inform eachother.
But yea, think you struck a nail with regards to intimacy.. LOTR is full of it, close bonds and relationships.. be it romantic or friendly.. It's more on an a existential level rather than physical.. Similarly we wouldn't expect a long torture scene in LOTR; and while we can certainly imply that torture happens.. it's more about the dread rather than gore.
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I hesitate to say this but... I'm a 56 yr old Native American grandma. I have never seen Lord of the Rings. In my defense I did see The Hobbit, which I loved! I have seen snippets here and there of the LOTR trilogy. I know that beautiful Liv Tyler is in one of the movies. I just never had anyone to watch it with. I need to watch them all. I feel so out of the loop. It's like hearing of Star Wars but only ever seeing A New Hope. This tragedy must not continue! Anybody want to volunteer to watch the Trilogy with me? I don't even have a vcr tape or dvd set to watch. I am of course embarrassed and my mom is just shaking her head from her final resting place.
Have someone download it on your computer. Must be Extended versions though. Enjoy!
Thanks Silver Dragon!🤗
I would love to, except I'm a continent away so that might be a bit of a problem. But you should definitely do it, it's a fine trilogy that made me, as a book-lover, a little frustrated at points but is close enough for me to still enjoy it.
You will love it, and it is never too late to enjoy it! Ask folks at your local community centre who wants a watch party together, or ask the local library to host one, if you want a group experience. It's the wholesome, feel good, amazing, spectacular adventure movies that will never age out, and always make for a great group watch party! Have fun, sending best wishes from Perth, Western Australia and one of my Greek ancestors married a Lakota I think the tribe name is.
How wholesome 🥺😊
“Is a mug of beer inside this Took!” Is the line Stephen was thinking of! That’s when the Hobbits were signing in the actual Green Dragon in the Shire!
the whole time I am sitting here, grinning at these two absolutely adorable handsome dorks and I just cant stop giggling
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This is the happiest I have ever seen Stephen, apart from the way he is with Evie. 🤩😍🤩😍🤩😍🧙♂️
Listen to how happy the crowd is for him.
He actually must have peed himself a little.
I sure would.
I love this show.
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I love them so much
Seeing Stephen geek out is so fun.
I have a respect and a passion for the cast of Lotr, you have no idea.
This makes my nerd heart SOOOO happy. I’ve sang that song so many times when I was inebriated in college 😂🍻❤️❤️❤️🧝🏼🧙🏻♂️💍
It makes my nerd heart sad to read your second sentence: the participle of to sing is sung, not sang.
This interview and the one with Will Arnett are two where Stephen shows absolute enjoyment and the interviews were amazing. I have watched the, over and over simply because everyone is so happy and relaxed and funny!
They’re all delightful
It's one thing to add nudity in a 'natural state' way and another to do it in a gratuitous Game of Thrones way.
Billy voice is great.
The dwarves get naked and frolic in Elrond's fountain in the Extended Hobbit. And oh, it is ever extended.
The camera goes there and back again, and it's not just the shield that's oaken.
This was very wholesome and extremely charming
I think there were ACTUAL rays of sunshine coming out of Stephen's face while singing the Green Dragon song 🤣
Stephen loves when they re act the scenes its really cute
What a wonderful friendship!
I'm so used to seeing these two in the movies that when they walked out my immediate thought was "man Stephen is way shorter than I expected"
They should record a whole album of Hobbit Drinking Songs.
Hearing “Li’l Liza Jane” with the NOLA flair to start off the clip made my heart happy. Thanks, Mr. Batiste!
Just great!!! Smiles! Happy!!
Yes!
I love them :)
Lotr forever.
My cat Angus MacGyver thinks he's a Hobbit. He wants Breakfast, Secon Breakfast, Elevesies, etc.
Surely you know about this, Radagast?
Bonus points for naming your cat "Angus MacGyver"
“There was Eru, the One, who in Arda is called Ilúvatar; and he made first the Ainur, the Holy Ones, that were the offspring of his thought, and they were with him before aught else was made.”
Very Old Testament. The Catholic mythologizing of Tolkien is more or less what ruined it for me. Angels and saints: we don't need no stinking Ainur.
By the by: my father bought the first edition as it came out (fold out maps) and I first read the Hobbit in primary school, LotR by 8th grade. I was a founding member of the Tolkien Society of America and met WH Auden at one of their get togethers. This was before the ACE paperbacks were issued and the exclusivity of the whole world fell apart, but that's not my complaint. LotR is a rousing adventure with mostly 2 dimensional characters in a fight of good against evil. But it's not great literature. Oh, well.
@@davidyohalem629 ok
@@davidyohalem629 How can you even say that? It’s beautiful literature
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It explains the magic system, it builds the world and mythos... I'm a massive atheist, but the religiosity of The Silmarillion doesn't bother me at all.
@@AuntieDawnsKitchen I interpret the Holy Ones as analogous to the old testament angels (Lucifer, Gabriel, Astoroth, et al.) Under a monotheistic conceiver, the Tetragramaton, Yahweh called whatever suits you. LoTR is more nordic than the middle earth theology expounded in the Silmarilion. Just sayin'.