Best interview with Amanda Knox I've heard. Not that others have been _bad_, but she is so much more interesting as a person here than I've ever seen before. I knew that she had a podcast, but only after this interview do I want to search it out and listen to it.
Great interview. As the mom of a daughter who is growing up in the same area, same private school community, etc., I can understand how this happened, as we have innocent, sheltered, trusting kids who are ready to do good in the world. As a retired LEO, I continue to be disgusted and mortified by this whole awful nightmare.
@@freeofspeech9858 Firstly your implication that people have never been wrongfully convicted is shamefully insulting to millions who have been. If you really thin that wrongful convictions do no exist, then you are absolutely clueless and commenting about a topic that you are ignorant about, is the height of idiocy and fallacious reasoning 101. So, I suggest firstly look into the topic of wrongful convictions and the entire psychological apparatus as to how they come about, from police to lawyers to prosecutors. It is beyond futile to discuss a specific case like Amanda Knox, when you think wrongful convictions do not even exist. Perhaps look up the Global Innocence Project for a start ( aside from the numerous charities that do the same work ) of which Amanda Knox is a part of. Aside from that, you are utterly uniformed and therefore clueless about how the trial system works in Italy for a start as well as the entire case and trial it seems. So why are you making a comment about a topic you know precisely nothing about ?
There is a very-well written exploraration of the horrors of the death penalty in the words of Prince Mishken towards the beginning of Dostoyevsty´s "The Idiot". Well worth a read.
Yeah, I wrote that years ago: human do advanced calculations unknowingly (mentioned cerebellum too for high accuracy), how humans scan environment and do continuous calculations of dimensions, that’s essential for calculating time too,….etc they work on stealing and polluting human thoughts then erasing human traces (that movie: planet of the apes, 1968 version).
Very interesting discussion. Wrongful convictions are still too common, and every time I hear about some guy who spent thirty years in prison, and was released based on new evidence (DNA, typically), I get angry at the system and those who seem to want to perpetuate it and its flaws.
Amanda was a serial liar. 1) Amanda and her 7 days old boyfriend were drug addicts. 2) She belonged to a broken family and behaved extremely strange at the police station by doing yoga when her friend was murdered and she was being interrogated. 3) She had found her Italian boyfriend within weeks after reaching Italy and was suspected to be a sex addict and was suspected to have had sex with multiple guys. 4) She changed her sentences and kept giving different versions of what happened making everyone wonder whats the truth.. 5) The thief still says that he is innocent and blames Amanda .. 6) Amanda DID NOT behave empathetically or like a normal person who would grieve over a death of a roommate. She did have all the ingredients that would make her a suspect brcause of het Psychopathic personality. ... TO TOP IT ALL , SHE LIED... She lied by putting the blame on her empliyer, bar owner who was ,100% innocent.. She was a liar for sure if not a murderer as she tried to defame and put the blame on her 100% innocent employer. What a horrible thing to do. I feel sorry for what happened and all the suffering but it happened because of multiple reasons.. 😢
You've copy and pasted this in at least a dozen Knox related video comments. Not once have you bothered to correct your misinformation after being proved false. But I'll keep posting this whenever you do: Let's discuss your misinformation and outright false statements: "1) Amanda and her 7 days old boyfriend were drug addicts. " Knox's and Sollecito's hair was ordered tested for narcotics upon their arrest on Nov. 6, 2007. Unlike urine and blood, hair never loses its trace of narcotics. Both tested negative for narcotics. Your claim is 100% false. "2a) She belonged to a broken family" So did Meredith. What's your point? Children of divorced parents are psycho killers? "2b)and behaved extremely strange at the police station by doing yoga when her friend was murdered and she was being interrogated." She wasn't doing yoga while being interrogated. She did it while waiting for her boyfriend while HE was being interrogated. Yep, doing yoga is the sure sign of a killer... as I note your own username! "3a) She had found her Italian boyfriend within weeks after reaching Italy... Meredith was also sleeping with an Italian guy, Giacomo Silenzi, who lived in the downstairs apartment within weeks after arriving in Italy. Does that make her a slut in your mind, too? "3b) and was suspected to be a sex addict..."
No: She was being slut-shamed for doing what lots of college girls and guys do. But it's usually only the girls who get slut-shamed by people as you're doing. "3c)... and was suspected to have had sex with multiple guys." So what if she did? What does her sex life have to do with murder? But to put facts straight, she had sex with 3 guys in Italy, two of them only one time. "4) She changed her sentences and kept giving different versions of what happened making everyone wonder whats the truth.." No, she didn't. Her account before and after the illegal and coercive interrogation of Nov. 5/6 was the same. Saul Kassin, the foremost expert on false confessions, has studied her statements and concluded they were the result of a coerced interrogation: "coerced-internalized false confessions are statements made by an innocent but vulnerable person who, as a result of exposure to highly suggestive and misleading interrogation tactics, comes to believe that he or she may have committed the crime--a belief that is sometimes supplemented by false memories." KASSIN: ""This case horrifies me. I'd like to say it shocks me. But I've seen others like it," said psychologist and professor Saul Kassin, an expert on police interrogations. On his own initiative, Kassin filed a report with the Italian court on Amanda's behalf. It outlines some of the psychological reasons why Amanda could have confessed to a murder she did not commit." "I believe Amanda's confession is false. I believe Amanda is innocent," Kassin said. "If she was there...wouldn't she have known that Patrick wasn't there? Wouldn't she have known that Rudy was there? The reason she didn't know those things is that she wasn't there." (Amanda Knox: The untold story 48-hours OCTOBER 11, 2011 / 3:33 PM EDT / CBS NEWS) She retracted her statements within 24 hours. "5) The thief still says that he is innocent and blames Amanda .. " The "thief"? You mean the definitively convicted MURDERER, Rudy Guede, who has recently been arrested again for raping and beating up his ex-partner. "6) Amanda DID NOT behave empathetically or like a normal person who would grieve over a death of a roommate. She did have all the ingredients that would make her a suspect brcause of het Psychopathic personality." Thank you for your professional opinion, Doctor. So where did you get your degree in psychology or psychiatry? The University of TH-cam? "TO TOP IT ALL , SHE LIED... She lied by putting the blame on her empliyer, bar owner who was ,100% innocent.. She was a liar for sure if not a murderer as she tried to defame and put the blame on her 100% innocent employer." I refer you back to my response to your #4 comment.
L'ottusità è internazionale ! Amanda era innamorata e felice con Raffaele e non aveva motivi per aggredire Meredith e non con la complicicità di GUEDE che non conosceva !
Bologna. 1. Ms Knox had smoked some grass, but that hardly makes her an addict. That makes her a college student. 2. She did some stretching exercises during a break in a stressful situation. This is not abnormal. (I do, however, appreciate that you don't repeat the folklore that she was "doing cartwheels.") 3. I'd like to see a citation for this silly allegation. 4. Her claims were actually consistent, especially considering the fact that she was being interrogated in a language she didn't speak at the time. 5. You take the word of a thief? 6. Again - what is your evidence for such a claim?
@@christopherbrochu7492 Yogalife365 is a classic example of someone who bases her opinion on this case on proven misinformation, myths, and lies. Even when she's presented with quoted and cited evidence that a claim is wrong, she ignores it, keeps repeating it, and refuses to actually discuss it. She would rather be wrong than admit she is wrong.
Fantastic show, I watched this case in London & the press basically had Amanda hung drawn & quartered as soon as the case started. We all have to check our own basis and think law & order needs to be held to account. God bless you Amanda , I hope you get to live your life with some sense of peace . PEACE and LOVE to EVERYONE.
She will never "live her life with some sense of peace", she knows what she did...and she's condemned to live the lie for the rest of her life....and always fearing that the TRUTH will come out (I mean, in the US, in Italy and in the UK the truth already came out long time ago)
Detectives are not going to come right out and tell a person they think they are the suspect. Many times they are just interviewing people not even knowing if a person could be involved or not. This is why some facts of the case are not leaked to the media so that if persons of interests come forward with various info that they wouldn't have otherwise known, it could be valuable information for them in order to pin them down. As far as the voluntary encounter as it has been called in the courts, this does not trigger Miranda warning because they are free to leave but the detectives aren't required to tell the person that, it's supposed to be obvious, the person came to them on their own volition and the door was left open in the interview room. The thing is the Courts have found this to be constitutional Mike, this isn't the Detectives faults. Most confessions are held to not be enough evidence even for Probably cause for an arrest these days. It has to be corroborated with some kind of evidence, direct or circumstantial.
Sometimes the wrong people get convicted in our imperfect justice systems. There is no way in order to completely fix this from happening. I think it has become exceedingly rare these days though. It's much more likely that guilty people get set free. Something called the CSI effect where the jury believes that DNA must always be found or they hold the prosecution to a higher standard than is required. During Vior Dire, they try and figure out if the potential jurors have this bias and others but people slip through.
As a Brit I vaguely recalled this case but admit whilst watching was strongly influenced in terms of memory by the UK 🇬🇧 press at that time that pretty much concluded that Amanda Knox was guilty. Interesting interview.
The late Robert J. Gula summarized 3 types of causal relationships: (1) If X doesn't happen, then Y won't happen: necessary cause or condition (2) If X happens, Y will happen: sufficient cause or condition (3) If X happens, Y may happen: contributory cause or condition. A reason is not the reason Gula writes. The Italian investigators apparently oversimplified cause and effect. big time.
That prosecutor’s misogyny was showing. I’m reading Gould’s *THE MISMEASURE OF MAN,* and there is so much confirmation bias in the minds of respected scientists, it’s breathtaking. They absolved their prejudices by asserting that “I’m not prejudiced; I’m just reporting the *FACTS!”*
The police can be even worse. They make up their minds about something/ a suspect and then get tunnel vision, interpreting the evidence to favors their bias.
I am watching TH-cam since years, I have noticed something bizarre happened lately (nothing about space and time,…. lately) in the past there were many videos on daily basis, but in the last month nothing new (in English). the irrational thief apes are preparing for something (theft, that’s all they able to do). All the storytellers disappeared suddenly except degrasse !
You are not the only person who knows the method to cheat a polygraph. The polygraph operators know also and they monitor the subjects for such behavior. Nowadays most people who are caught are caught for using such methods. Being caught for such methods shows concision intent to lie. It might even be admissible in a court.
Amanda didn't take a polygraph. She was more than willing. The people who can full on fool a polygrapher would be psychopaths. Also, the interpretation of the person giving the test can "choose" whether they're being truthful or not. This is why it's not admissible in court.
Mignini wasn't necessarily biased against AMERICAN women as much as holding a very old-fashioned paternalistic view of woman in general which is common in Italy. Women fall into two categories for men like him: the Madonna and the whore. Meredith Kercher was cast as the Madonna and Knox as the whore, especially in Italy and the UK.
The murderers were three: Amanda Knox, Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox....she can tell what she wants (as usual) to people who know nothing about the case like this interviewer here above, but not to those who know the truth.
@@freeofspeech9858 Actually, the murderer was one - Rudy Guede. This is pretty much an established fact now. I say this knowing a lot about the case. (And you realize you listed two people among your "three" - right?)
So interesting! I didn’t follow Amanda’s trials and tribulations. It’s not the kind of case (or crime) that grabs me. O.J. Simpson and Alex Murdaugh are more my speed. When Johnnie Cochran decided to play the race card, in addition to Marcia Clark apparently being the only one who didn’t realize that the jury hated her, Chris Darden being brought in by the prosecution as their token black, Lance Ito loving his 15 minutes, the jurors’ long-drawn-out sequestration, etc. When Alex Murdaugh was shown to be a serial liar and thief who stole from anybody he could, including his close family and dearest friends, when his family was tied to at least three other murders, that he and his wife were apparently estranged, that Maggie Murdaugh allowed underaged family and friends to drink and drive, and SO MUCH MORE THAT HAS YET TO BE LITIGATED. For example: Who killed Stephen Smith? Who killed Gloria Satterfield? Who was responsible for the boating accident that took the life of Mallory Beech? (Well, we know who killed Mallory, don’t we.) Plus, where is the medical evidence to show that Alex Murdaugh was a drug addict? Maybe I missed it, but I don’t believe it for a second. Like I said, idk anything about Amanda’s case, but it sounds horrible. The best person to talk to about how to tell if someone is lying is Paul Ekman, head of the Paul Ekman Group. I wish you would interview him, Michael. Those body language so-called experts are awash in confirmation bias, don’t waste your time.
"The best person to talk to about how to tell if someone is lying is Paul Ekman, head of the Paul Ekman Group. I wish you would interview him, Michael. Those body language so-called experts are awash in confirmation bias, don’t waste your time." I could not agree more! Far too many people fall for so-called "body language experts" like The Behavior Panel whose main objective is selling the gullible their books and courses.
The guy that was just convicted for killing his family a few weeks ago has a long history of crimes... and corruption as a prosecutor. He also lied about his whereabouts, and didn't have an alibi, and... had reason to kill. Whether or not someone is lying or not, is well understood in behavior. If you folks are saying there's no such thing as fairly reliable behavior analysis by professionals, such as the Behavior Panel, I'll have to disagree. Also, did she make the statement that there is "biased" DNA analysis?
They are unreliable as indicators of deception. Most people put way too much faith in them just as they do online/TH-cam "body language experts". Studies on both show they are just not consistently reliable which is why neither is allowed in court as evidence.
In this case, the evidence was overwhelming that he did do it. The forensic evidence doesn't support his own story that he tried to save her. He never once claimed to have moved her or to have put the pillow under her hips but his palm print in her blood was found on a pillowcase UNDER her hips. His DNA was found in her blood on her purse from which her wallet was stolen. "Saving" her did not include getting into her purse.
@@mytrip6991 Rudy has passed himself off as saintly in helping Meredith by attempting to stop the blood flow; however, I think he was simply paranoid about the blood seeping into the hall. I was never sure if the position of Meredith's body on the pillow would allow Rudy to make shoeprints on the pillow posthumously or not. 4 of them look as though they could have been made while she was positioned on the pillow while one is more central. I'm not aware of any shoeprint on the floor under her body. I sometimes play it dumb when I'm debating to give my opponent enough rope to hang themselves, even if it means giving them the initial impression that I believe their nonsense. While it's certain that Meredith was moved from the position she collapsed in, the aspirated blood and finger marks make it clear that she was still alive in the position she was eventually found in. So there's a lot of nonsense being talked on Reddit from a pro-guilt POV; however, I'm in no rush to close down the debate over the events in Meredith's bedroom.
@@TGcomments Guede told many lies that were disproved by witnesses who contradicted what he said, including his friend whom he said he visited that night. I think he tried to stop the blood flow, not from reaching the door but from her neck...but not because he was trying to save her, but because it was creating such a mess around her. As for the 'shoe print' under her, I meant to write 'palm print'; I thought one word, typed another. I have corrected that. As far as Meredith being moved, the blood spray evidence shows she was attacked in front of the wardrobe but then moved in order to make the sexual assault easier. As Massei stated in his report, the body was found in the position in which she was attacked (and died): " That Rudy then yielded to his lust, and tried to find sexual satisfaction with Meredith, is revealed by how Meredith’s body was found….” There is no way Guede's bloody palm print on the pillowcase could have been made after the sexual assault so his story of coming in after the attack and trying to save her is a proven lie. This belief by some that "poor Rudy" is innocent and a victim of racism is not about the evidence, but about their own bias. Guede knew he could play the race card and some would believe it which is why he claimed this "left-handed attacker" (who left ZERO evidence of himself) proclaimed, "Black man found, black man guilty."
So what convinces you of her guilt? Her DNA, fingerprints, and bloody shoe prints in Kercher's bedroom? Oh, wait... those all belonged to Rudy Guede. Maybe her bloody footprints? Oh, wait. Those don't exist either. Her blood mixed with Kercher's blood? Oh...that doesn't exist either. Maybe the various motives established by the courts? Shoot...none of those were established either.
I can't watch this. Even if she didn't murder her roommate, she showed zero empathy, compassion, and concern for her. She displayed very strange behavior throughout. Sorry, it's a pass for me.
@NoGGi Velasquez I'm not sure where that idea came from because it's simply not true, unless you're a narcissist, sociopath, or psychopath. When a normal human being experiences a traumatic event and/or recounts it, the emotions felt during that event come to the surface. Even if the person was a perfect stranger, compassion is a natural human reaction. If you've ever witnessed any type of serious incident, you'll know what I'm talking about. If you watch the public statement she and her mother gave, it's clear that her mother shows normal human emotion where she is totally devoid of it. It's very strange. I'm not suggesting she is guilty of murder, but at the very least, she is likely a narcissist.
I believe this woman is innocent. But I will say there is still a nagging doubt in my mind. No offence. But that's the inevitable consequence I suppose of publicity around such a case. Sinks into the subconscious.
@@freeofspeech9858 Curious isn't it. I'd forgotten I'd left that comment. There's just something intangible. Like on the peripheral vision it's there but you can't see it clearly.
@@christopherjones67 I did both. Although, with respect to the first interviews she gave years ago, she learned to lie better....but lots of people still feel that something is off about her...and they're right.
I live next to Italy and when Amanda Cox was arrested, she performed cartwheels at the police station which sent red flags flying for the police. Think of that Michael, you get arrested and while you are being interrogated you get up and do cartwheels across the room! Does that sound like something an innocent person would do? She was not convincing in her interviews that we saw on TV about her whereabouts at the time of the crime. The Italian police do excellent work and they are convinced she had a hand in the death of her roommate. There was loads of evidence that foul play from what was probably a prank resulted in the untimely death of Amanda's roommate. But you're right, the case against her was a hot potato politically and she was acquitted.
Sorry, there were no cartwheels, not one!! And nobody, who lives next to Italy (like me) believes in "excellent work" of the Italian police. You also miss the verdict of the European Court of Human Rights against Italy: Without some violations of human rights nobody would have ever heard of Sollecito or Knox at all, nulla, niente, zero!!
Best interview with Amanda Knox I've heard. Not that others have been _bad_, but she is so much more interesting as a person here than I've ever seen before.
I knew that she had a podcast, but only after this interview do I want to search it out and listen to it.
It's interesting! An array of topics.
Great interview. As the mom of a daughter who is growing up in the same area, same private school community, etc., I can understand how this happened, as we have innocent, sheltered, trusting kids who are ready to do good in the world. As a retired LEO, I continue to be disgusted and mortified by this whole awful nightmare.
So sorry you had to endure that horrendous experience. Wow, you are so resilient.
@ Mark Young. Wow, you are so uninformed.
The only one who endured a horrendous experience is a girl whose name was Meredith Kercher.
@@freeofspeech9858 So being in prison for something you did not do, is not harrowing ?
@@captaininspector8898 SHE wasn't in prison "for something she didn't do", she was blatantly guilty.
@@freeofspeech9858 Firstly your implication that people have never been wrongfully convicted is shamefully insulting to millions who have been.
If you really thin that wrongful convictions do no exist, then you are absolutely clueless and commenting about a topic that you are ignorant about, is the height of idiocy and fallacious reasoning 101.
So, I suggest firstly look into the topic of wrongful convictions and the entire psychological apparatus as to how they come about, from police to lawyers to prosecutors.
It is beyond futile to discuss a specific case like Amanda Knox, when you think wrongful convictions do not even exist.
Perhaps look up the Global Innocence Project for a start ( aside from the numerous charities that do the same work ) of which Amanda Knox is a part of.
Aside from that, you are utterly uniformed and therefore clueless about how the trial system works in Italy for a start as well as the entire case and trial it seems.
So why are you making a comment about a topic you know precisely nothing about ?
There is a very-well written exploraration of the horrors of the death penalty in the words of Prince Mishken towards the beginning of Dostoyevsty´s "The Idiot". Well worth a read.
Great interview. Thanks to both of you.
She lied and sent an innocent black man to jail! Bleurgh!!
No.
Yeah, I wrote that years ago: human do advanced calculations unknowingly (mentioned cerebellum too for high accuracy), how humans scan environment and do continuous calculations of dimensions, that’s essential for calculating time too,….etc
they work on stealing and polluting human thoughts then erasing human traces (that movie: planet of the apes, 1968 version).
I love her story! She’s a badass!!
Very interesting discussion. Wrongful convictions are still too common, and every time I hear about some guy who spent thirty years in prison, and was released based on new evidence (DNA, typically), I get angry at the system and those who seem to want to perpetuate it and its flaws.
Amanda was a serial liar.
1) Amanda and her 7 days old boyfriend were drug addicts.
2) She belonged to a broken family and behaved extremely strange at the police station by doing yoga when her friend was murdered and she was being interrogated.
3) She had found her Italian boyfriend within weeks after reaching Italy and was suspected to be a sex addict and was suspected to have had sex with multiple guys.
4) She changed her sentences and kept giving different versions of what happened making everyone wonder whats the truth..
5) The thief still says that he is innocent and blames Amanda ..
6) Amanda DID NOT behave empathetically or like a normal person who would grieve over a death of a roommate.
She did have all the ingredients that would make her a suspect brcause of het Psychopathic personality. ...
TO TOP IT ALL , SHE LIED... She lied by putting the blame on her empliyer, bar owner who was ,100% innocent.. She was a liar for sure if not a murderer as she tried to defame and put the blame on her 100% innocent employer.
What a horrible thing to do.
I feel sorry for what happened and all the suffering but it happened because of multiple reasons..
😢
You've copy and pasted this in at least a dozen Knox related video comments. Not once have you bothered to correct your misinformation after being proved false. But I'll keep posting this whenever you do:
Let's discuss your misinformation and outright false statements:
"1) Amanda and her 7 days old boyfriend were drug addicts. "
Knox's and Sollecito's hair was ordered tested for narcotics upon their arrest on Nov. 6, 2007. Unlike urine and blood, hair never loses its trace of narcotics. Both tested negative for narcotics. Your claim is 100% false.
"2a) She belonged to a broken family"
So did Meredith. What's your point? Children of divorced parents are psycho killers?
"2b)and behaved extremely strange at the police station by doing yoga when her friend was murdered and she was being interrogated."
She wasn't doing yoga while being interrogated. She did it while waiting for her boyfriend while HE was being interrogated. Yep, doing yoga is the sure sign of a killer... as I note your own username!
"3a) She had found her Italian boyfriend within weeks after reaching Italy...
Meredith was also sleeping with an Italian guy, Giacomo Silenzi, who lived in the downstairs apartment within weeks after arriving in Italy. Does that make her a slut in your mind, too?
"3b) and was suspected to be a sex addict..."
No: She was being slut-shamed for doing what lots of college girls and guys do. But it's usually only the girls who get slut-shamed by people as you're doing.
"3c)... and was suspected to have had sex with multiple guys."
So what if she did? What does her sex life have to do with murder? But to put facts straight, she had sex with 3 guys in Italy, two of them only one time.
"4) She changed her sentences and kept giving different versions of what happened making everyone wonder whats the truth.."
No, she didn't. Her account before and after the illegal and coercive interrogation of Nov. 5/6 was the same. Saul Kassin, the foremost expert on false confessions, has studied her statements and concluded they were the result of a coerced interrogation: "coerced-internalized false confessions are statements made by an innocent but vulnerable person who, as a result of exposure to highly suggestive and misleading interrogation tactics, comes to believe that he or she may have committed the crime--a belief that is sometimes supplemented by false memories."
KASSIN: ""This case horrifies me. I'd like to say it shocks me. But I've seen others like it," said psychologist and professor Saul Kassin, an expert on police interrogations.
On his own initiative, Kassin filed a report with the Italian court on Amanda's behalf. It outlines some of the psychological reasons why Amanda could have confessed to a murder she did not commit."
"I believe Amanda's confession is false. I believe Amanda is innocent," Kassin said. "If she was there...wouldn't she have known that Patrick wasn't there? Wouldn't she have known that Rudy was there? The reason she didn't know those things is that she wasn't there."
(Amanda Knox: The untold story
48-hours OCTOBER 11, 2011 / 3:33 PM EDT / CBS NEWS)
She retracted her statements within 24 hours.
"5) The thief still says that he is innocent and blames Amanda .. "
The "thief"? You mean the definitively convicted MURDERER, Rudy Guede, who has recently been arrested again for raping and beating up his ex-partner.
"6) Amanda DID NOT behave empathetically or like a normal person who would grieve over a death of a roommate.
She did have all the ingredients that would make her a suspect brcause of het Psychopathic personality."
Thank you for your professional opinion, Doctor. So where did you get your degree in psychology or psychiatry? The University of TH-cam?
"TO TOP IT ALL , SHE LIED... She lied by putting the blame on her empliyer, bar owner who was ,100% innocent.. She was a liar for sure if not a murderer as she tried to defame and put the blame on her 100% innocent employer."
I refer you back to my response to your #4 comment.
L'ottusità è internazionale ! Amanda era innamorata e felice con Raffaele e non aveva motivi per aggredire Meredith e non con la complicicità di GUEDE che non conosceva !
Bologna.
1. Ms Knox had smoked some grass, but that hardly makes her an addict. That makes her a college student.
2. She did some stretching exercises during a break in a stressful situation. This is not abnormal. (I do, however, appreciate that you don't repeat the folklore that she was "doing cartwheels.")
3. I'd like to see a citation for this silly allegation.
4. Her claims were actually consistent, especially considering the fact that she was being interrogated in a language she didn't speak at the time.
5. You take the word of a thief?
6. Again - what is your evidence for such a claim?
@@christopherbrochu7492 Yogalife365 is a classic example of someone who bases her opinion on this case on proven misinformation, myths, and lies. Even when she's presented with quoted and cited evidence that a claim is wrong, she ignores it, keeps repeating it, and refuses to actually discuss it. She would rather be wrong than admit she is wrong.
A remarkable in depth interview
Fantastic show, I watched this case in London & the press basically had Amanda hung drawn & quartered as soon as the case started. We all have to check our own basis and think law & order needs to be held to account. God bless you Amanda , I hope you get to live your life with some sense of peace . PEACE and LOVE to EVERYONE.
She will never "live her life with some sense of peace", she knows what she did...and she's condemned to live the lie for the rest of her life....and always fearing that the TRUTH will come out (I mean, in the US, in Italy and in the UK the truth already came out long time ago)
The UK press are pit dogs, or worse at times. The UK and the Italian tabloids are as bad as eachother.
Detectives are not going to come right out and tell a person they think they are the suspect. Many times they are just interviewing people not even knowing if a person could be involved or not. This is why some facts of the case are not leaked to the media so that if persons of interests come forward with various info that they wouldn't have otherwise known, it could be valuable information for them in order to pin them down. As far as the voluntary encounter as it has been called in the courts, this does not trigger Miranda warning because they are free to leave but the detectives aren't required to tell the person that, it's supposed to be obvious, the person came to them on their own volition and the door was left open in the interview room. The thing is the Courts have found this to be constitutional Mike, this isn't the Detectives faults. Most confessions are held to not be enough evidence even for Probably cause for an arrest these days. It has to be corroborated with some kind of evidence, direct or circumstantial.
"Detectives are not going to come right out and tell a person they think they are the suspect. "
You've got to be kidding.
Amazing discussion. Would either of you share their perspective on the "rape case" and "human trafficking" that Andrew Tate is yet to be charged for.
That would be an interesting one. "Real Crime Profile" podcast has a recent episode on the case.
What a nightmare
Sometimes the wrong people get convicted in our imperfect justice systems. There is no way in order to completely fix this from happening. I think it has become exceedingly rare these days though. It's much more likely that guilty people get set free. Something called the CSI effect where the jury believes that DNA must always be found or they hold the prosecution to a higher standard than is required. During Vior Dire, they try and figure out if the potential jurors have this bias and others but people slip through.
As a Brit I vaguely recalled this case but admit whilst watching was strongly influenced in terms of memory by the UK 🇬🇧 press at that time that pretty much concluded that Amanda Knox was guilty. Interesting interview.
So glad you had Amanda on your show. Aside from Italy, sensational coverage in the US also cast doubts on her innocence for ratings/clickbait reasons.
Really? The only folk I've seen are a pretty extreme breed. They simply decided on guilt with no logical rationale.
The late Robert J. Gula summarized 3 types of causal relationships: (1) If X doesn't happen, then Y won't happen: necessary cause or condition (2) If X happens, Y will happen: sufficient cause or condition (3) If X happens, Y may happen: contributory cause or condition. A reason is not the reason Gula writes. The Italian investigators apparently oversimplified cause and effect. big time.
That prosecutor’s misogyny was showing. I’m reading Gould’s *THE MISMEASURE OF MAN,* and there is so much confirmation bias in the minds of respected scientists, it’s breathtaking. They absolved their prejudices by asserting that “I’m not prejudiced; I’m just reporting the *FACTS!”*
The police can be even worse. They make up their minds about something/ a suspect and then get tunnel vision, interpreting the evidence to favors their bias.
I am watching TH-cam since years, I have noticed something bizarre happened lately (nothing about space and time,…. lately) in the past there were many videos on daily basis, but in the last month nothing new (in English).
the irrational thief apes are preparing for something (theft, that’s all they able to do).
All the storytellers disappeared suddenly except degrasse !
The Prosecution Jury and Police had a collective psychosis and that's why they used all terms like 'she devil' etc etc
Her story and the drama that ensued reminded me of that film, Brokedown Palace.
You are not the only person who knows the method to cheat a polygraph. The polygraph operators know also and they monitor the subjects for such behavior. Nowadays most people who are caught are caught for using such methods. Being caught for such methods shows concision intent to lie. It might even be admissible in a court.
Amanda didn't take a polygraph. She was more than willing. The people who can full on fool a polygrapher would be psychopaths. Also, the interpretation of the person giving the test can "choose" whether they're being truthful or not. This is why it's not admissible in court.
Didn't hear a lot about this case but am wondering about the Italian prosecutor's bias toward American women???
Mignini wasn't necessarily biased against AMERICAN women as much as holding a very old-fashioned paternalistic view of woman in general which is common in Italy. Women fall into two categories for men like him: the Madonna and the whore. Meredith Kercher was cast as the Madonna and Knox as the whore, especially in Italy and the UK.
All of them disappeared suddenly, Rovelli Hallucinates in Italian !
So, who was the murderer?
Rudy Guede.
The murderers were three: Amanda Knox, Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox....she can tell what she wants (as usual) to people who know nothing about the case like this interviewer here above, but not to those who know the truth.
@@freeofspeech9858 Your evidence?
@@freeofspeech9858 Actually, the murderer was one - Rudy Guede. This is pretty much an established fact now. I say this knowing a lot about the case. (And you realize you listed two people among your "three" - right?)
So interesting! I didn’t follow Amanda’s trials and tribulations. It’s not the kind of case (or crime) that grabs me. O.J. Simpson and Alex Murdaugh are more my speed.
When Johnnie Cochran decided to play the race card, in addition to Marcia Clark apparently being the only one who didn’t realize that the jury hated her, Chris Darden being brought in by the prosecution as their token black, Lance Ito loving his 15 minutes, the jurors’ long-drawn-out sequestration, etc.
When Alex Murdaugh was shown to be a serial liar and thief who stole from anybody he could, including his close family and dearest friends, when his family was tied to at least three other murders, that he and his wife were apparently estranged, that Maggie Murdaugh allowed underaged family and friends to drink and drive, and SO MUCH MORE THAT HAS YET TO BE LITIGATED. For example: Who killed Stephen Smith? Who killed Gloria Satterfield? Who was responsible for the boating accident that took the life of Mallory Beech? (Well, we know who killed Mallory, don’t we.) Plus, where is the medical evidence to show that Alex Murdaugh was a drug addict? Maybe I missed it, but I don’t believe it for a second.
Like I said, idk anything about Amanda’s case, but it sounds horrible. The best person to talk to about how to tell if someone is lying is Paul Ekman, head of the Paul Ekman Group. I wish you would interview him, Michael. Those body language so-called experts are awash in confirmation bias, don’t waste your time.
"The best person to talk to about how to tell if someone is lying is Paul Ekman, head of the Paul Ekman Group. I wish you would interview him, Michael. Those body language so-called experts are awash in confirmation bias, don’t waste your time."
I could not agree more! Far too many people fall for so-called "body language experts" like The Behavior Panel whose main objective is selling the gullible their books and courses.
The guy that was just convicted for killing his family a few weeks ago has a long history of crimes... and corruption as a prosecutor. He also lied about his whereabouts, and didn't have an alibi, and... had reason to kill. Whether or not someone is lying or not, is well understood in behavior. If you folks are saying there's no such thing as fairly reliable behavior analysis by professionals, such as the Behavior Panel, I'll have to disagree. Also, did she make the statement that there is "biased" DNA analysis?
She is horrible, enjoying her moment of fame, she killed her no doubt.
The lie detector test anyway was invented by an amateur magician 🎩 or conjurer as we would say in the UK 🇬🇧.
They are unreliable as indicators of deception. Most people put way too much faith in them just as they do online/TH-cam "body language experts". Studies on both show they are just not consistently reliable which is why neither is allowed in court as evidence.
DR. ITIEL DROR let's get him on
Guilty as f@&% - _”the black guy did it…”_ 😈
The black guy DID do it.
In this case, the evidence was overwhelming that he did do it. The forensic evidence doesn't support his own story that he tried to save her. He never once claimed to have moved her or to have put the pillow under her hips but his palm print in her blood was found on a pillowcase UNDER her hips. His DNA was found in her blood on her purse from which her wallet was stolen. "Saving" her did not include getting into her purse.
@@mytrip6991 Rudy has passed himself off as saintly in helping Meredith by attempting to stop the blood flow; however, I think he was simply paranoid about the blood seeping into the hall. I was never sure if the position of Meredith's body on the pillow would allow Rudy to make shoeprints on the pillow posthumously or not. 4 of them look as though they could have been made while she was positioned on the pillow while one is more central. I'm not aware of any shoeprint on the floor under her body.
I sometimes play it dumb when I'm debating to give my opponent enough rope to hang themselves, even if it means giving them the initial impression that I believe their nonsense. While it's certain that Meredith was moved from the position she collapsed in, the aspirated blood and finger marks make it clear that she was still alive in the position she was eventually found in. So there's a lot of nonsense being talked on Reddit from a pro-guilt POV; however, I'm in no rush to close down the debate over the events in Meredith's bedroom.
@@TGcomments Guede told many lies that were disproved by witnesses who contradicted what he said, including his friend whom he said he visited that night.
I think he tried to stop the blood flow, not from reaching the door but from her neck...but not because he was trying to save her, but because it was creating such a mess around her.
As for the 'shoe print' under her, I meant to write 'palm print'; I thought one word, typed another. I have corrected that.
As far as Meredith being moved, the blood spray evidence shows she was attacked in front of the wardrobe but then moved in order to make the sexual assault easier. As Massei stated in his report, the body was found in the position in which she was attacked (and died):
" That Rudy then yielded to his lust, and tried to find sexual satisfaction with Meredith, is revealed by how Meredith’s body was found….”
There is no way Guede's bloody palm print on the pillowcase could have been made after the sexual assault so his story of coming in after the attack and trying to save her is a proven lie.
This belief by some that "poor Rudy" is innocent and a victim of racism is not about the evidence, but about their own bias. Guede knew he could play the race card and some would believe it which is why he claimed this "left-handed attacker" (who left ZERO evidence of himself) proclaimed, "Black man found, black man guilty."
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She's about as innocent as OJ 😂
So what convinces you of her guilt? Her DNA, fingerprints, and bloody shoe prints in Kercher's bedroom? Oh, wait... those all belonged to Rudy Guede. Maybe her bloody footprints? Oh, wait. Those don't exist either. Her blood mixed with Kercher's blood? Oh...that doesn't exist either. Maybe the various motives established by the courts? Shoot...none of those were established either.
You actually think OJ is innocent? Really?
I can't watch this. Even if she didn't murder her roommate, she showed zero empathy, compassion, and concern for her. She displayed very strange behavior throughout. Sorry, it's a pass for me.
@ Violet Joy. Yeah. This guy hasn't done his research.
Gulity! Gulity! Guilty! Screw "evidence"! She acted WEIRD.
when you've been through such things, your empathy goes out the window.
It's yourself before everybody else in such circumstances on the mental level.
@NoGGi Velasquez I'm not sure where that idea came from because it's simply not true, unless you're a narcissist, sociopath, or psychopath. When a normal human being experiences a traumatic event and/or recounts it, the emotions felt during that event come to the surface. Even if the person was a perfect stranger, compassion is a natural human reaction.
If you've ever witnessed any type of serious incident, you'll know what I'm talking about. If you watch the public statement she and her mother gave, it's clear that her mother shows normal human emotion where she is totally devoid of it. It's very strange. I'm not suggesting she is guilty of murder, but at the very least, she is likely a narcissist.
Can you support your claim?
I believe this woman is innocent. But I will say there is still a nagging doubt in my mind. No offence. But that's the inevitable consequence I suppose of publicity around such a case. Sinks into the subconscious.
Subconscious is often right
@@freeofspeech9858 Curious isn't it. I'd forgotten I'd left that comment. There's just something intangible. Like on the peripheral vision it's there but you can't see it clearly.
@@christopherjones67 I read almost all the court documents so I can see very clearly: she's guilty beyond the reasonable doubt.
@@freeofspeech9858 I haven't read the court documents. But I've watched this woman being interviewed.
@@christopherjones67 I did both. Although, with respect to the first interviews she gave years ago, she learned to lie better....but lots of people still feel that something is off about her...and they're right.
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I live next to Italy and when Amanda Cox was arrested, she performed cartwheels at the police station which sent red flags flying for the police. Think of that Michael, you get arrested and while you are being interrogated you get up and do cartwheels across the room! Does that sound like something an innocent person would do? She was not convincing in her interviews that we saw on TV about her whereabouts at the time of the crime. The Italian police do excellent work and they are convinced she had a hand in the death of her roommate. There was loads of evidence that foul play from what was probably a prank resulted in the untimely death of Amanda's roommate. But you're right, the case against her was a hot potato politically and she was acquitted.
Doing cartwheels in a a police station doesn't say anything about guilt or lack thereof, how difficult is that?
@@keesdenheijer7283 It’s not a smoking gun, by any means, but it’s certainly abnormal behavior for the situation.
Sorry, there were no cartwheels, not one!! And nobody, who lives next to Italy (like me) believes in "excellent work" of the Italian police. You also miss the verdict of the European Court of Human Rights against Italy: Without some violations of human rights nobody would have ever heard of Sollecito or Knox at all, nulla, niente, zero!!
@@cpjds1 but what defines "normal" behaviour for that sitatuon?
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And if it was, how would that be relevant?