The GREATEST championship of all time?! | The Breakdown, June 23, 2024
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- The Blues have broken a 21-year drought to be crowned Super Rugby Pacific champions. Get all the reaction from the Breakdown crew and a very excited Sir John Kirwan.
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Where does the Blues title rank in the history of Super Rugby championships?
Nothing that special is it. Good on them but don't over hype it,.....
Last.
Pretty average mostly because Auckland supporters are the most arrogant
it doesn't .... Crusaders win up n Canberra was the best (Brumbies were untouchable 2-3yrs) ..... made Eddy-boy Jones cry ....
@@philbphotography6175 Well it is special just like any other winner of any other championship in any other sport. Why? Because they are the winners. Would any of the other teams liked to have won it. Yep sure...sort of the whole point of lining up at the start.
I just think some people are hard to please.
Blues style of play of forward dominant brutality has been the All Blacks DNA for generations. Only in the last few years have we ignored forward play and concentrated on razzle dazzle running game. Rush defense has countered the All Blacks running game since 2017. We need a dominant forward pack to get fast quality ball for our backs.
Spot on.
Physically+Brutality should be a non-negotiable period
Totally right!!!!!
The last time the Blues won a title, the bloke sitting next to Kirstie was Fullback.
Do we not count Super Rugby Trans Tasman?
And centre
@TheLIMREPORT No, same with Super Rugby Aotearoa, both were makeshift tournaments thrown together because of COVID.
True... but they were always in the top 8 🙃
He played 13
Blues played old school All Blacks rugby. Back then, All Blacks beat every team up the middle. Less flair, more punch. Vern brought old school back. Was insane! Great to watch! Blues defense they focused on the 2nd player coming in to move the player a bit further behind the advantage line. That split second of holding up the ball and tackle assist reminds me of Lions when they were successful in Super Rugby under Johan Ackermann. This Blues team is amazing! Hope they play champions from Europe/UK in the Pre Season to see who’s the best 👀😂😎
Correct. Blues played a style with brutal forwards. That is All Blacks DNA for a hundred years.
Love your passion and I love my blues but man European rugby is different,physically I don’t say we don’t have a chance but blues or crusaders against Toulouse will be tough,I think during preseason this year only the blues won against a Japanese team the rest all lost
I don’t like the European match ups, it’s usually with a preseason team with little to no games prior, lacking match fitness and with a team that haven’t been able to build chemistry. Whereas it’s in the middle of the European season and at their home grounds. They have all the advantage
Vern has been a great coach looking for a home, he did great things for Scotland but was stabbed in teh back by Gregor Townsend, was stuck with a weird Covid situation in Fiji, finally he has the back room and the players to do some damage: hats off to the man - and forward play? Vern is Old School with an Old School understanding of what is required to win.
Kirwan and goldie have developed an excellent tactic of including Mils while hardly allowing him to speak.
Mils has his own special 'Mils Moments' Kirwan and Goldie don't set the program plan
@@elizabethleiper2664 Possibly one of the most ill thought out responses ever. Thanks.
Yeah, I've noticed.
He has nothing to say. The constant fence sitting must be painful.
Harry Plumber is a lock for the All Blacks what good player he is , if not this year 2025 he will break in ,take a bow bro.
He´s not a lock mate.... just kidding. Agreed, he is solid.
Hard. He was ice cold out there.💪
@@rosswilliams2303 yeah mate he was, I so happy he has taking his chance to play high level for Auckland . Now for the AB's as well astounding
@@mikescudder4621 Well , yeah mate but..........fingers crossed
@@mikescudder4621 Go the AB's
Congratulations Auckland blues champion super rugby 2024 💪💪💪👍
Chiefs supporter but congratulations to the Blues. We got stonked by good old fashioned direct rugby, straight through the middle!!
The Crusaders awesome defensive effort over the ditch back in the Somerville/Hammer/Hewitt days, and the Highlanders togetherness and heart during their whole finals run were memorable finals.
Thank you Akira.💪💙
Kirwan can be pleased with the part he played in that 21 year drought.
URC best championship three different winners in 4 years south africa teams made competition must better keep your super rugby we ....don't need it
Teams have figured out how to shut down the ABs running game through rush defense. That’s why we need forward play like the Blues. Look how easily the Blues shut down the Chiefs running game. Any forward pack that gets bullied won’t be winning rugby games.
Spot on,
Physicality + Brutality in the forward pack is a non negotiable
The world isn't ready for Razor breakdance in every wins 😂
Japan isn't gonna be Super Rugby's Sugar Daddy.
Missing the extra competition that South Africa brought, there were some incredible matches over the span that stood out and showed that initiative could of been taken then in regards to having players like Dupont come then, but again if South Africa was closer to us competition might just of continued. Well done blues sad for my team the Hurricanes, a good final. BRING ON NEXT YEAR!
First it was my Beloved Celtics winning their 18th banner,and now my beloved Blues,life is good!
same for me, loving it!
Half the South African World Cup winners play in Japan. We 100% need to be looking at ways to tap into the population bases and funding available in Japan and the US West Coast.
You need them more than they need you
@@gerardbenson1844 don’t agree. Is that why they sign our best players and coaches? Australia, New Zealand and the other Pacific Islands remain a nursery for rugby talent,
@Kiwi_Haydn These clowns think the Japanese clubs want to join Super Rugby. They don't because they have the money to take your best players
@@gerardbenson1844😂
@@gerardbenson1844 They’re only there for the culture and the sushi 🍣🔪👀
The Sth Africans complained about the travel,as if they were the only teams to travel those tine zones,they left the competition because they couldn't win many. That's what people do if they keep getting beaten,they lose interest and walk away.
Shame still hurt bout Ur WC loss..can't beat the Boks in a final💩💩
@@chicky86-bu3po Truth hurts you.
We got kicked out , we did not leave cause we couldnt wim , but anyway our rugby is better for it and yours sufferd cause of it
@@jasonbell1819 Nah, Kiwi Rugby is stronger.
@@Andy_M986 yes with not winning the WC.. beautiful
the blues were much more expansive and playing wide in both better weather and when Perofeta was playing 1st 5, plummer is awesome but he's not an expansive 1st 5 player, he can't attack the line like some of iur other 1st 5s. They will get back to it next year, but when they say we don't want to play this way they're wrong. This is the way the ABs and crusaders have always played. It's just your forward pack plays like this and your backs are more expansive, the weather and our injuries in the blues (no Sullivan, no perofeta until too late) meant the blues backs couldn't be expansive but this is what you want a forward pack to do
True
WE NEED SOUTH AFRICA BACK IN SUPER RUGBY 🏉
Who's going to pay them?
@@mthabitX And didn't the Bulls (or one of the SA teams) make it into the SR Final without having played a single NZ Team all year due the the Groups etc that they played under that year?
Super rugby final was borring as a neutral put it off after 20 minutes was one sided and thats not what a final should be but the urc final was good ot was close and entertaining
Mils "Sort of" Muliaina, talking about Tuipulotou: "the way he sort of came back just after that sort of kick off they scored sort of points".
Let it sort of go, let it sort of go
I think these words are called fillers. Every person has them, including you. We don't even know we are using them.
Do you know that clever people, sort of, listen to the speakers message, as opposed to listening for, sort of, superfluous fillers .....Sort of!
@@clarke1319 everyone uses them, but not everyone is paid to speak for a living. A professional should be aware of their word usage and work on improving their speech patterns.
@@learntonganwithandrew Andrew you missed the bit about "clever people".
He's a former All Black talking on a blooming rugby show for heavens sake. He's not a Churchill or Obama.
@@learntonganwithandrewI sort of agree.
10:50 This is debatable. And quite ironic
The Blues won the Super Rugby championship by employing a very Northern Hemisphere style of rugby. Beating their fellow New Zealand teams-the Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Caders-who each played a traditional All Black Southern Hemisphere style of rugby. However, the panel is asserting that this style won't be effective against Northern Hemisphere nations and that we need to continue playing an expansive game?
Blues proved that the forward dominant play beats the running game style. A dominant forward pack combined with rush defense can shut down the All Blacks game.
@@stealthpakfaI agree. It makes you wonder how a team like La Rochelle would fare in Super Rugby. Their players are even bigger than the Blues! If they played in the same style, or if South African teams were still part of the competition, New Zealand teams would need to adapt quickly. They're too used to playing a fast-paced, attacking game against each other. It's almost a relief that the Blues have highlighted the different styles of rugby for us. Barring the Blues, all the NZ teams now function as All Black trial teams with no unique style, which will eventually be exposed when they face different opposition who bring a different level of physicality.
They assert that you can’t beat someone at their own game. Which is true. No one else can out run NZ, the same way you’re not going to out muscle the South Africans.
Great show by all. Love it, luv ya all. Blues the Champs! Hurricanes v Blues Final next year on a dry track.
🔵🔵🔵
Daltons nickname should be Casper because I didn't see him all night
😂😂😂
And still won 😂
He also goes missing like Sotutu
Is Shannon Frizell not available for the All Blacks?
He has been playing really well in Japan
Overrated
But Auckland scored 40 points, it’s a good blend of tough forwards moving forward and talented backs capitalising on go forward
Well personal opinion here but I don’t give two shits if DuPont comes here and plays or a Sexton comes or someone else from NH comes and plays super. I like to go see the current All Blacks play and the future All Blacks in making trying to gain that spot. Super rugby this year has been the best season since probably 2019. We can do better next year, we just shouldn’t jump the gun
Nah sexton has a new gig ( retired ) and writing his memoir. What might have been.
I'd say the Blues winning the title might make JK even more insufferable, but I don't think that's possible anymore.
You answered your own question friend
@@hellsbells24 Except for the fact it's not actually a question. Friend.
Great show, love the mix of rugby and the business of rugby, great group and Kirstie is awesome..
Not one of the knockout games were close. The final 41-10 was a white wash. The Super competition needed a classic with a winning try in extra time. The final wasnt even close. I wager that game did nothing to grow super rugby.
With 11 teams now in super rugby, there should be 20 games. Each team plays each other twice with 2 byes
In relation to the ABs vs England, these 2 upcoming games will be England’s best chance to beat the ABs & I have England as favourites to at least draw the series & maybe even win it 2-0. My reasons are… The way the ABs season is structured, is that the ABs play all of their games in 1 ‘6 month clump’ - the June series, the Rugby Championship & then the NH End of Year Internationals & then a 6-7 month until the next June Series. Whereas the NH Countries have the 6 Nations, a few months break, the June Internationals, a few months break, the Autum Internationals, a few months break & then back into the 6 Nations. And this time around, England have had a warm-up game against Japan and have had Steve Borthwick etc at the Coaching Helm since leading into RWC23.
So with the ABs playing their first game under a new Coach with the likelihood of new AB Players/Combinations, I would put England as favourites, albeit close, for the opening test down in Dunedin. Fortress Eden Park may even be too soon for the latest AB group to protect.
It’s not all doom & gloom as the ABs are simply starting their journey with this new group of Coaches & Players which I am excited about & looking forward to see their growth with the next pinnacle being RWC27. It will be interesting though to see if this initial squad is being picked for the 3 games & then the squad changes slightly for the Rugby Championship & then changes again for End of Year Tour as the plans start to role out for RWC27.
And while England picked a squad of 35-36 to tour, why are the ABs only picking 32 for a Home Series? Are those the rules or can the ABs also pick a squad of 35-36? Or is it an official squad of 32 with 4 extra players being brought in to help with 'training'...?
32 with extended training group. Home series so you can bring whoever you want with minor logistically disruption.
@@bassk9939 Yeah, since that post I have tweaked my thinking. As Razor said this 32 player squad is (more) about the ‘here & now’ to play/beat England so it is almost based on proven players/combinations of that first ‘23’ & then the other 9 as cover with the other 4/5 as extra cover/apprentices to see where they are at especially for the game against Fiji.
Given that there was still the SR Final to go which could have incurred injuries to key players, given that when the squad could be named, when it came together, all of the PR etc they would have to do, how few training sessions they will actually have, especially those SR Final players doing their post-match recovery, before naming the starting 15 & the bench for the Test on the 6th July, I reckon that this squad of 32 was picked based primarily/solely on the 23 to be named to face England.
There will be changes/additions for the Rugby Championship Squad & more than likely a few more changes again for the End of Year (NZ Autumn’s Squad) & going forward. With the expected return of Jordan, Roigard etc, the selection of the Maori ABs & the ABs (2nd) XV, that will show us where the depth is coming from. Then there are the current batch of U20s, U18s & those who are doing their time with the 7s, maybe Mounga, Frizzel etc. ‘We’ also have to keep an eye out for ‘late developers’ who aren’t currently on the radar or maybe a Tall Black, a Rower/Canoer, an America;s Cup Grinder, a ‘Brad Thorne’ who would like to try a switch of sports. Or we could get Kevin Barrett to advise some other ex-players on how to go home & breed some future ABs… Exciting times
Thank you sir JK I’m with you 100% but we need to bring South Africa teams back too
Defence wins championships. Thanks Goldy. That's exactly what the Boks do.
Congratulations Blues see you in Fiji next year Vs FijianDrua 2025!
Have to add Shaun Stevenson is very unlucky not be in the squad too! He's a fantastic player. Scored on debut last year in the close Dunedin Test. I hope he gets another Test opportunity. Hoskins Sotutu very unlucky. Peter Lakai very unlucky. Ruben Love unlucky, he should be tried at 10. Brayden Iose and Josh Moorby have been knocking on the door too. Can't wait for Cam Roigard and Will Jordan to comeback also.
I do remember the previous show was all about the chiefs. Now that the Blues won the championship.What next guys and gal? KS can be the captain and the 3 clowns in the show can be the coaches. well done sky sports.
Goldie said he was disappointed in how chiefs played then brought up the stats which clearly showed that Blues would be so much better than chiefs in every aspect of the game
How’s those Warriors going?🤯
Yer like it jeff. But needs few more there at games. Hard economy rekon lot dont see that.
You can’t hold super rugby to the same standard to when the South African teams were playing 👍🏻
Suddenly this is the greatest championship of all time, thought Kirwan was still promoting that scuttle-butt roll back the ball checkers game called league that he loves so much?
Dame Patsy 🤦♂️💯
Sotutu out of AB’s is crazy
They shoumd rename this competition. Oz Union is done..they shoumd be disbanded. The tournamament is on the level of the NPC of the 000s. Nz just need to play amongst themselves
Mils " Brains " Muliania thinks lights will attarct the likes of Dupont!!
I rekon even if lose nz has to play'
JK was a great player but a lousy coach he ruined them blues
Just use speed n skill.
First season that there's no Crusaders in the playoffs and we get the worst final yet.. shame. Don't blame the Blues who were just too good for the Chiefs. Guess we've been spoilt for finals of late. Congratulations Blues.
How was it worst?
Wrong, the Crusaders failed to make the playoffs in 1996, 1997, and 2001
Crusaders missed them most recently in 2015, that was a great final. But I do agree that this seasons final was one of the worst
So Ione reckons winning Super Rugby is better than a world cup. How would he even know that though?🤣🤣🤣
He didn't say it was better, he said that he prefers to win a Super Rugby Pacific title rather than a World Cup, because he's proud of being an Aucklander.
You guys miss the south Africans
all black cool yes
Super rugby will not be good until NZ and AUS prioritize it over international rugby.
Asking a question but you don't know the answer lol
The chiefs were just there for a holiday lol fishing poles and all lol fkn kefe 🎣 no one in the chiefs should make the ABs lol
Have a fufu couch taro 😂couch potatoes🥔 coconut breath 🥥
Rain made it easier for the Blues, would've won by less if the weather was decent
@@yealandsmarloh really??? If it wasnt raining would the Blues' impecabble defence been weakened & horrible? Would the dry ground have made the chiefs run through the defence? Yeah right! No Excuses mate!!!
@@nvwcj22 I'm no Chiefs fan so I'm not making "excuses". I'm just stating how the weather assisted the Blues, and gave the Chiefs another disadvantage. It could've been a much closer "Grand" final which is what everyone except Blues fans wanted
@@yealandsmarl fair enough mate!
crusaders come back and then 9 out of the next 10 ,🤣
With your Coach, are you sure…….
If that helps you sleep at night
Wow after that year I wouldn’t be to sure about that.😂
Henry Bell robbed way better than his brother
They should stop calling it super rugby. It's not super rugby anymore it's a new tournament. You can't compare the current travel to what it used to be.
Sorry but fowards to.
Super rugby is dead and burried embarrassing tournament nowadays
Then why were there 43, 000 at the stadium for the final then?
@nvwcj22 for a final sure but as a tournament it's absolutely dead and will definitely not last
@@nvwcj22 haha 🤡
Blues are best of a very bad kiwi lot.reality is a bunch of talentless players. The pommies will prove that.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You again 😂😂 NZ Really lives rent free in your head.
How the pommie teams go in their comps?
don't feed the troll! I think the AB's will over power and outpace the Poms ...30+
Yeah right!! This All Black team is going beat every team on the planet!
Haha imagine been more obsessed with the state of NZ rugby than most NZers.
Not even close to the greatest. In fact, id argue its the least impressive.
Super rugby was 100x better when Australian and South African teams were there and competitive. Any of the older titles are far more valuable.
Im not a blues fan, but even their earlier triumphs outweigh this purely on the basis of the competition
So the Crusaders titles in recent years haven't been worth much either then? The SA sides were average at the end, after the NH had stripped them of most of their stars. They weren't the factor everyone wearing rose tinted glasses think they were, at least not in the last few years. The Aussie sides have been largely rubbish for a decade. So every title in the last ten years must been tainted then, by that logic.
We have always had the team over the years BUT we have never had the coaches! This ALL on the experience and knowledge of Vern Cotter!!!!!
Oh BTW this is what you call pressure rugby vs the delusional running rugby that everyone wants to see!
Backs have dominated New Zealand coaching over the years in the last two decades. Henry Hansen Foster Wayne smith this panel all backs. Vern has given everyone a wake up call but they are still not listening.
Where does it rank? The Super Rugby competition is bordering on boring. The only real competitors for this competition has been between three NZ sides. Same as any of the past three years. I’ve actually started watching URC, it’s free on TVNZ3 and much more entertaining, apart from the quality of refereeing.
URC is not on par with super rugby !! Love super rugby .From South Africa.
@@JimmieCooper-le6vjbe quiet you casual 😂
A Canes vs Blues final would have been an actual contest. Shame the Canes tripped up at the last hurdle....
Yeah shame that.😌
Their ABz prospects went missing in the biggest moment , hence most got snubbed
@@mungoblizzard6114 Who got snubbed?
@@mikescudder4621 The canes Loosies were pretty dominant the whole season, knocking on All Black door - ALL went missing in the semi final
@@mungoblizzard6114 You could say the same for the Chiefs in the final. Razor explained a lot of the reasoning. No8 is where we have the most depth. Lakai is already training with the ABs.
The Blues wingers hunt through the middle.
The Blues back to the TOP from rock bottom where JK and his team had them
Years ago Marc Ellis called out JK years ago for his lack of knowledge. Fitzpatrick the "ultimate head boy" defended JK........
Guest on show "we need to be more fan-centric"
JK: i love that.
Also JK "I believe that people are not missing the South African trip"
🤷♂
Well, fans probably aren’t missing the SA game timings. I wasn’t getting up at 3am to watch SA teams without their Bok’s get pumped.
Even if you don't get up at 3am re0lays can still be watch at whatever time you want unless...the games never happen
@@joepunk90 True, but the games were rarely a decent contest with most Bok’s playing elsewhere.
@@DavidSmith-yi8ou That's fair. It didn't have the same challenge in the last few seasons before they exited.
Greatest championship was the Highlanders. With the exception of the Smiths a team of No Names.
All rosey and glossy from the Super Rugby chair, meanwhile Rugby continues to die a slow death in Australia - helped along by a terrible Super Rugby comp
How is the Wallabies demise the fault of SR?
John Kirwan is single handedly ruining The Breakdown for any South African supporters.
Nz rugby is alive and well 💪
The Blues winning in that style makes you wonder how a team like La Rochelle would fare in Super Rugby. Their players are even bigger than the Blues! If they played in the same style, or if South African teams were still part of the competition, New Zealand teams would need to adapt quickly. They're too used to playing a fast-paced, attacking game against each other. It's almost a relief that the Blues have highlighted the different styles of rugby for us. Barring the Blues, all the NZ teams now function as All Black trial teams with no unique style, which will eventually be exposed when they face different opposition who bring a different level of physicality and high pressure line speed.
Interestingly Toulouse just edged out La Rochelle this weekend with their rolling-with-the-punches, expansive style of game. If they ripped the Band-Aid off for Super Rugby’s eligibility criteria (ie let Kiwis, Aussies and anyone else play for whoever and still stay eligible for their national sides) I would love to see the Force turn into a quasi Saffa side (with a good chunk of Aussies too) so that we’d have that South African style of game back into Super Rugby without having the expensive travel burden and out of kilter time zones.
I do not want to hear players' commentary on the field.
Turn your TV off then! 😂
@nvwcj22 tell the players to concentrate on playing the game rather than having a yap.
@@stevenbissett tell them yourself!!! Then turn off your TV!
@@nvwcj22 I would suggest that players eager to participate in such an activity are already eyeing up a potential career in media after they retire from the sport. Such players should have their retirement brought forward like the senior management of Kiwi rail.
@@stevenbissett who are you talking about in particular?
Christie, Mils, Jeff and other guy counted the MIGHTY BLUES "out" on last weeks show. CHEHOOO! Up the MIGHTY BLUES
This show is full of Chiefs (Hillbilly region of NZ) sycophants.
If Robertson is picking on form, Plummer, Riccitelli and Darry deserve to get the call up.
I also think Marcel Renata is underrated, he has been very solid, mobile around the field and a strong scrummager.
Great call about Renata. I've been surprised with his scrummaging, all the other stuff was already there.
He's come through the old way, getting schooled by better scrummagers for season after season, absorbing all those beatings and now, he's one of the old heads!
@@zabaleta66yeah absolutely! Had the chance to watch him in Melbourne and Brisbane this year, I was impressed on how quick he gets around the field and carries the ball quite strongly.
Dominant 💪🏾
Best game I’ve ever seen you play Patrick. Respect
Imagine only front row with Razor ‘all blacks :destroying all the teams
I'm afraid no one has interest in a world club championship outside of New Zealand.
THese pundit are all commenting on hindsight. Well done the blues.
I thought that was a terrible final from a fan of the game's perspective.
the smugness of Kirwin is appalling.....
Why?
He’s relieved not smug.
Canes fan. But yer auckland were good all year n showed it n the final.
Is JK wearing stockings? 😅
Congratulations, Sir JK! Enjoy it 🎉
With love, from 🇿🇦
He said what he said and no one agreed with him regarding missing the south african trip😂
@@roccomgij6853 I'm not sure I understand your comment. But it is seriously cringe when Jeff Wilson can't be gracious towards JK and be happy with him. If a fan(atic) loses the ability to stay upright in victory and defeat for the team you support or the opposing team of your mate, there is some growth to be done.
Rugby is the most important thing of the least important things in life, let's keep perspective and not tell on ourselves if we deluded ourselves otherwise.
@@georgeengelbrecht1310 JK is always trying to bash South African rugby, just the other day Izzy Dagg said he missed having South african teams in super rugby,and with respect to travelling to SA and playing different conditions.. they discussing making their rugby better for the viewer and they talking about fields nd entertainment but no rugby teams bringing a different dimensions of and excitement... Jeff amd Mills didnt feel comfortable with his statement...
Will the super rugby managers consider RSA teams that does not play in the URC competition to be included in Super rugby ?
Urggh do we really want the Cheetahs and Kings back?
@@TheLIMREPORT Nah I doubt even the Cheetahs would wanna be in your comp now, the Australians can barely keep up their end budget wise, it's a sinking ship.
No I don't think so. If you think they should then tell us why.
The other four SA Provinces (Cheetahs, Pumas, Kings and Griquas) will possibly be in a second division URC in the not too distant future to give Scotland more teams and have additional depth for the Welsh, Irish and Italians to play off. That will likely be the next progression now that Glasgow has won the URC and if Scottish momentum continues.
Are you saying that the SA teams who are not even good enough for the URC, effectively SA 3rd Div teams, are good enough to compete with the 5 NZ SR Teams? Mate, you're having a laugh. The much better top tier SA SR teams were really only competitive on their own home soil in their day anyway as it was. And as JK said, the time zone differences between SA & NZ are too great for regular/frequent Player/Fan welfare. While it is a 12+ hour flight between SA & Europe, at least it is pretty much the same time zones so there is not the tiredness of usual Jet Lag one gets from travelling across multiple time zones. SA should stick to Europe.
Why don't the big NH teams or SA adopt that Blues style against the ABs? - It obviously works and they have big enough 'athletes'? e.g France the Boks etc
All blacks were in the finale World Cup 2023 and all blacks with 14 dominated boks . So it don’t work .
Now with Razor , all blacks will smash all the teams with strong row ( just with blues canes chiefs saders players ).
@@DrissZyani-bu5mo I’m sure we watching a different Game🤣🤣
@@DrissZyani-bu5mo What? the Blues just won the comp and the style does work lol
(also the Boks didnt use that style in the final)
My point is it will interesting to see if International sides who have 'Big athletes' (Will Skeltons, Romaine Taofifenua, Posolo Tuilagi etc) - Adopt the same style as the Blues going forward as the Blues have dominated Super Rugby (against All Black filled teams) with it
Jk cut all the hyperbole
It's funny how JK & Sir Kirwan lambast the way the Boks play, pushing the expansive game, whilst the blues Won the championship based on a powerful pack, with forward dominance, with one brute who smashed into everything and opened the backs to live on the crumbs. The "modern game" is lost on these two pundits JK & SK just as it was lost by the (SA) SR teams who left behind their traditional strengths for the expansive basket ball globe trotter, thankfully, it's been corrected now. Well done Blues, wake these pundits to real Rugby, how it used to be played and then we might see stadiums filled again in NZ. People want to see authentic played Rugby not 52-47 scorline Rugby. Give us tactics, grunt up front, balanced attack and get rid of the big time waster, The TMO.
It's funny how you don't know JK is John Kirwan .. and he is an All Blacks great. He knows a great deal about the game. You don't.
For families
Does anyone rate Chay Fihaki? or is he leaving or something? Rate him over Love
Yes indeed, he plays like what Jordie Barrett SHOULD be playing like (Chay started out as a centre) has the best boot out of all of our fullbacks right now and has the most power.... Especially if you took stock of the baabaas game on the weekend. I'll be annoyed if havili makes it after the last couple of years he's had but am sure Chay has probably done enough to get a nod (over Love, Stevenson and Perofeta)
Doesn't matter wat we think will the selectors pick him?don't think so
Must be smoking picking him over Love
@@rubendutoit586 He's from Christchurch bro
@@jlm0175yea agree about Havili - some big errors and for as hard as he plays, not sure about the lines jordie is running or his pass timing to set up others. Some big opportunities missed and SA put a target on him. Fihaki's decision making is really good.
From a ‘fans’ perspective…
Convenience of terminology: Are the NZ SR teams Franchises or (traditional) Clubs? How many U5s, U7s, ‘Ripper’ Teams do each of the SR teams have? For me the SR Teams are Franchises.
With regards to expanding the SR Profile/Game, which Japanese Club or which US Franchise would ever actually win a game against any of the NZ SR Teams or would they be just a poor relation like the Sunwolves were? As a fan, I want teams who can contribute more to the competition as opposed to only money to pay for the Execs expenses.
I keep banging on about it but get more games for the AB 2nd XVs, the Maori ABs and even create an AB Barbarians/Guest Team where the likes of old, new players could gain experience so that the likes of Fabien Holland, Anton Segner, Players needing game time, some U20s mixed with some ‘old’ boys or even NPC/Heartland players could just add to the depth of NZ Rugby. Even if the games are against Tier 2, 3 etc Countries or even Clubs in the Top14, Gallagher Premirship etc - just get games under the belt, experiences for players, improve the ABs Brand, a varied type of game for the fan to watch and hopefully not as a financial loss to the NZR/Grassroots rugby & doesn't involve Player Burnout.
The overseas Broadcast/Content (I get to watch) is not as ‘complete’ as the NZ televised version. The coverage (I see) basically starts as the Players are leaving the tunnel to start the match & then the coverage stops just a few seconds after the Final Whistle with maybe the respective Captains immediate On-Pitch Post-Match interview. I personally would like to see more build-up & Post Match analysis/comment (if it was with Pundits I could relate to and/or tolerate).
Nobody gives a toss about a light show. Seriously.
Idk what style we are adopting, but there's a reason we have this record, and it's not only because we razzle dazzle on a chess board. But when the boys click, they click no other.
touch rugby league
Who ooh the suburbs 😂😂
Touch rugby league sustained the AB's to make the RWC final
We need the young guys to take over!!!! Also Flanders from the hurricanes should be a all black