Why DoorDash Drivers are LEAVING the Platform in 2024
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- The Reasons why some drivers are choosing to NOT do DoorDash at All or as Often.
Where do you stand in 2024?
What Experience are you having?
Will it get better or worse?
My take on the Current State of DoorDash and what we can do about it!
#doordash #doordashdriver #fooddelivery #gigeconomy #doordashorder #uber #instacart #instacartshopper #courierdelivery
Doordash/ Dasher/ Side Hustle/ Money/ Gig Driver/ Food Delivery
How Much DoorDash are you doing in 2024?
Keep up the good videos bro..but nah I'm gonna ride this thang till I get tired of door dash..better than a w2job😅
@@jaygrand4613
Lol wake up man! You can get a trucking job making $27-30 an hour every hour on the hour plus over time and time and a half and you have benefits and they pay for the gas are you beating that? Yeah that's what I thought keep dreaming bro your living a lie and wasting your time. The reality is you have no freedom cause your camping out on your car is killing your back and your health to make peanuts congrats 😂
@@bballah9969 Wow, what a colossal jerk you are!
@@bballah9969 bro do you get paid to be so negative lol I don't wanna be a truck driver I enjoy door dashing but Good for you tho
👌🏾... so there's no confuzion, ZERO 😂
10 accepted offers = 1% increase in AR. 1 declined offer = 1% decrease in AR😅 Am I the only one feel this kind of scam?
Spot on. Their ar math is sketchy.
Oh i hear you!!! Ugh😢
It's Google play services jamming and or that annoying Google play services for AR will lock up n gives all trash orders just uninstall updates n disable it if android. Clear data on regular play services,force stop close all aps n shut down 4 60 sec n turn bk on. Fixed. If i take an order I always get a pt bk. 8000+ delivered now. Always keep catch cleared on dd driver app too. Its a Google problem people. Call Google directly if u don't understand what I'm talking about it will fix ALL n I mean all problems with dd driver app
It's bullshit
Right. The math ain’t mathing😂
I left. Got tired of the BS offers and their attempts to force a high AR on us
TRUTH!!
Facts
Congrats. Welcome to freedom.
Plus a lot of drivers now. Seems like everyone with a cellphone doing DoorDash nowadays.
@@Donkiko-bz1lv lots of broke people need money. Anytime something is this easy to do, pay will go lower and lower. They will test $1 pay soon mark my words. Theres enough broke ants that will do it too
I just quit doordash after going on three years for all the reasons you stated. Not making money and doordash just loves the games. I am tired of the BS. It's just not worth it anymore.
I was doing 5 to 5 1/2 days a week. 35 to 45 hours... now I do maybe 3 hours a week... doing catering in the morning for a local restaurant... 10 tplo 100 miles one way. $1 a mile plus $12 an hour... normally an 8:30 to 12:30 day 4 to 5 days per week m I nday thru friday.. 1 order per day. It basically replaced most of DD. I also have Uber and GH but Uber and tip baiting don't work for me and gh isn't busy enough on its own.
What you choose to do to replace income?
I am starting my own business currently and I still do some catering jobs with deliverthat, which I love doing. If I really need extra money I will do spark. Just no more doordash for me. Hope that helps a little bit.
I’ve basically all but quit for a few months towards the end of the winter the last couple years - and things pick up here in the spring/summer - just when I can actually see out to deliver dinner, or most of dinner shift so far (will have another hour of daylight soon; and after a certain time, I just don’t go too far than a few miles from my house) which is by far the most profitable time of day.
Everyone…delete door trash from your phone! I hope this company go out of business!
No, seriously!!
I agree 100%. The entire idea is horrible and ultimately makes the company that supplies the platform a huge chunk of money. They rip off the drivers, and have pretty much everyone that works on the other end of the spectrum (the restaurant and grocery workers) do more work to prepare these orders as on the menus it allows for ridiculous customization of sandwiches etc that a person wouldn't think to order in a drive thru or in person. So the workers spend more time making these orders as some get ridiculous. I work at a 7/11 and we have to literally shop the orders for the drivers and watch them reap all the benefits from it while no increase in our pay for extra duties. So from that aspect I hate drivers and think they should get a real job that doesn't take advantage of others extra work. The whole point is that the system is terribly flawed and creates animosity between drivers and jobs. I literally make a point to speak my mind to every driver that comes in my store.
@jcelldogs Your hate is unfounded, we have to shop and pay on orders like CVS and Walgreens. So that's on 7/11 not us, tell them to switch to shop and pay.
@@jcelldogs I use to work at 7/11 in florida, bonita sprins FL, it was fun but not much money. I would bring a boom box into the cooler and blast metal music while I was stocking the cooler! I worked with an african guy that was halarious funny as phuck!!!!
@@MastaDivinity I don't think we can because we also sell hot "to order" food like pizza and chicken wings etc(even tho I turn that feature off at night )😅🤣
No confidence at all about making any money. 2.5 hours this morning 17.00. Two hours this evening 14.00. Not even making minimum wage.
Are you taking every order or are there no orders in your market?
Same here, except I averaged $7.50 net, you are seeing a $7 GROSS!!!!
oh jeez cherry picking gone wrong😂😂😂
The lack of transparency on doordash is beyond messed up!
You can't steal with transparency...lol
Seriously. I cannot believe how hard it is to find out dasher news. WTF is dasher central for other than signing up anyways
Agree
They are an evil, evil empire!!! Pure evil. Stealing tips, manipulating data. Today I got a message saying I should try "pay per time". There was a "learn more. So I clicked it to find out more. Well, it was a trick. I was automatically put into pay per time. What???? I used to dash daily but don't do it often. It's just discouraging. They squeeze drivers for every single penny!!! It's awful
2 dollar offers are a slap in the face.
I’m just tired of people not tipping. Why they allow no tipping is beyond me but they should filter out the non tippers by hourly rate or not allow them give no tip
Who cares about that they take a percentage of the tip anyways
@@SwxftySwift see I didn’t know and wouldn’t care because I gotten de-activated over my driving record. Besides DoorDash needs to stop accepting no tips cuz this fucks over drivers no matter the cause
I used to kill it on Doordash. Now it's a backup at best.
same
EXACTLY! since "new platform" began in April, it went STRAIGHT-TO-HELL!!! 👿👿👿
I think when you see how it tears up your vehicle it gets old and expensive. I don’t think it is sustainable unless you have someone giving you a vehicle when you need it
You gotta prepare for that kind of thing lol. Cant just be driving without any worry about parts and wear and tear. I was a driver at dominos for 6 years and my car lasted the whole time. Doing minor things like oil and brakes yourself saves you $$$ too
@@HoffyRS Totally true, I was putting on 700 miles a week with DD and breaking 1200 a week on avg, all because of a recall on my hybrid I coughed up 4,650 dollars recently at 69,000 miles! My breaks require a scanner which a cheap one costs like 3,000 dollars. I know cheaper mechanics that do breaks for 120 dollars front and back and tires for 350! Dealerships rip off people but have a luxury loaner to give you though! LOL
I started dashing on two free bicycles given to me. No more high milage low ball orders! Getting the electric motor kits when my tax refund money hits! no more wear and tear on my car. Been doing the bicycle now for 6 months, money is a little more than in the car after gas and wear costs.
@@HoffyRSnot today! It’s just as expensive honestly
@@esau93631I use a 🛵. It's super cheap. They cost $2000-$3000. And lat 20,000 -30,000 miles.
Doordash sucks . Every order is under $7 in my market. And the miles are outrages. I quit last summer. 😂
lets see they keep lowering the wages for older drivers yet you cant get a raise ever!
Yeah, that is good if you’re just trying to make 200 or $300 a week on top of your W-2 income but once you start needing $1500 we gotta start moving to different apps because it’ll take you 70+hours to get that much
@@landonbrowne6250 yeah that’s not how it normally works.🤦🏻♀️
@@mrcarterfx885 yeah, thank God I just need a little supplemental income not that I couldn’t use more, but I can’t physically do 100 million hours a week anyway. But I always think thank God I don’t need to do this full-time because I’ll probably be out there 100 hours. I pick and choose and keep my miles down and I would only go more than a few miles if it was a very decent offer. Which has happened like once. It was like 17 for 10 miles and around here that time of year just to see something double digits it was like yeah plus the last time I delivered for the restaurant it was under a mile and it went up by just shy of 14 bucks. For 10 miles I figured it wasn’t gonna go up from 17 something but I was OK with that and it’s a good thing because it didn’t go up. I was like 28 minutes early though so despite a relatively decent amount of cars on the road, it definitely could’ve been worse.
That’s cause people accepting no tip orders lol
Yep.... teir program destroyed my side hustle. I dash on a need only basis.
The problem is with THE ECONOMY. Inflation is killing people and not as many people are ordering food to be delivered and many of those that are ordering, aren’t tipping as much. And of course, restaurant prices have gone up, so that contributes to less people ordering. The DoorDash problems are just symptoms of much larger issues in this country.
It's not though, DD is reporting record earnings, the market is just absolutely saturated in some areas. Too many drivers.🤷
@@Nicole-qc5dh DoorDash operates at a loss. Remember that there is a difference between earnings and profit. Earnings can go up along with inflation since prices are higher. Also, earnings go up along with territory and market expansion and DoorDash had acquired Wolt which expanded them into 23 more countries.
@@Nicole-qc5dhyup every one with a cellphone doing DoorDash
Compounded by a sneaky company, that’s greedy toO!
@@rachmunshine9474 Yeah, it's crazy how fast I came to find DD to be so sneaky when I started driving for them. I am sure all of the services have their bad side, but I really like Uber eats. They don't send me nearly as many offers that make sense for me to take, but I get a good one every 5-6 they throw me and I usually have another lined up before I finish my last. I feel like I spend more time sitting around waiting on DD to send me something. Uber eats keeps me moving and if they have an offer that's horrible and being declined, they will continue to raise the base pay and send it back out to you.
I far prefer it and for the DD customers that I do get to speak with, I tell them that Uber eats takes better care of it's contracted drivers. I also tell them not to use the priority delivery on DD because it doesn't truly exist and I tell them if they plan on tipping big and want their driver to see all of it, they should tip just enough to get the order picked up and give the remainder in cash when the driver shows up. I just don't trust DD to be fully transparent at all.🤷
May will be 5 years for me. When I started I was making 30 bucks an hour. Now I'm making half that and have acquired 170,000 miles on a new car bought just for door dash delivery. Gas has doubled and yet DD is constantly lowering pay. I'm getting out and strongly advising everyone do wise up and Quit this madness
That’s probably a $40,000 car that you have drove into the ground.
Fuckin bought a new car for DD and now it has 170k miles. Are you dead serious?????
You should have bought a motorcycle to dash downtown. Aedin
@@Skin-f9eShould've bought a motorcycle, rain gear. Aedin
@@Skin-f9e when I was working full-time, you could easily put 1000 miles on your car in a week
I started doing DoorDash back during the COVID era in 2020 and it was booming back than. I quit doing DoorDash this past January because it has gotten so bad to the point where I was struggling to even make $40. It has gotten over saturated in my market. I’m completely done. I spend so much on gas, car maintenance & repairs etc. the worst part about it is when tax time comes you are going to be owing the IRS thousands of dollars if you’ve done it full time like I did. I recently found a W2 job a month ago that pays more than DoorDash & I’m not putting so much wear & tear on my car. I deleted the app off of my phone and I’m completely done with the gig work.
I don’t have full confidence in none of the apps. I only have confidence in my W2 career. The apps are there for part time use for me. You take advantage of the opportunity the apps give you. Don’t let them take advantage of you.
Great advice
After I ran my freaking car into extinction by dashing and not being able to sustain a new car with the shit money I was being offered. I’m DONE and happy. I no longer want to slip on ice and fall down stairs. I’m over feeling I was waisting time and effort for nothing. I was also done having people look at me like I was shit person because of the other uneducated and rude drivers. I was over the customers who lie about not getting food.
I am done. Fuck DoorDash
NICE!
Spot on Pedro, newer drivers get priority on large orders . For the " hook" California driver I average 15 for the stipend I was doing 30
Yeah, for 4.9 months I was getting catering orders every single day with a low AR pumping over 400 deliveries a month! They hooked me, now I dont see them as much. Best I did on DD was 100 dollars in 1hr. But I met a old man that dashes 1hr a night and made 93 dollars in 30 minutes or less.
Friday Eve and nights used to be jumping . It has really changed badly in my area. The Catering program is no more . Dd now just sends mostly crap orders which kill my AR . I just turn on instacart
Catering program blended.. it's still there.. it's just the requirements are more
Frrrr I used to actually LOOK FORWARD to working in the weekend with DD, but now it’s beyond dead/washed.
@@parisbaxter4996 I went out tonight in Spring Hill, Tn where the GM plant is. I usually hit $40+ on Friday night. Tonight, $18 f*ckin dollars, ON A FRIDAY NIGHT! They are only giving me a 30 minute to 1 hour time frame now. Fixing to try Instacart and see how that goes.
Reason I am thinking of quiting is they destroyed the old large order program that rewarded long term dashers like myself, and now stacked orders are criminal... two dollars to deliver two orders plus tip... awful! Thats a 2.5$ pay cut per stack from just a year ago when it was 2.25x2 ...
Yes. I was telling my sis about this very thing the other day. They removed the base pay for the 2nd order. Crooks!
And the customers suffer too because they have to wait twice as long when most times there is enough drivers to take each order separately
Finally got top dasher and still getting lots of junk orders! The only difference is that I'm busier and get most of them stacked! And you know even if the pay si great, they sneak lots of non-tippers on those staked orders. 5,000 deliveries, customer rating 4.99 and completion rate 100% O'Fallon Missouri market sucks. Cherry picking for me works better and using Doordash short term. Leaving app soon, good luck everyone
LOL one time I peeled a no tip order off of a stack due to long wait time, it was an accident and made good on the tipper order. Glad as that no tipper got his soup n samich cold or not delivered!
I used to do that all the time, accept a big stack and figure out which one tipped and unassign the bad order, wish it were like that still. DD is really heading in the wrong direction these days. Lop program is now broken, i see no cbr orders anymore when i used to consistently see 2 to 8 a day. Went from easy 400 dollar days to lucky to make 300 grinding like a crackhead @danguts2844
I'll stay active on DoorDash until the tier program hits our market and at that point I'll have a decision to make
That is where I am at right now. That program starts in 3 days. I can already see one address where I am going to have issues with clown customers. One address, a business with a bunch of angry miserable clowns. I can keep my AR above 80% most of the time (the new thresh hold) but every time I start delivering to this shit hole my customer rating starts to tank. Cut this f*cking place of my customer rating goes almost back up to 5. now the customer rating has to stay above 4.8, and I know this one place can destroy me. This one clown at this place in particular will leave a 1 star because I will not deliver him the condiments he always requests in his third screen that he did not pay for.
I agree
April WHEN TIERS platform changed (METRO-DETROIT-->NOT detroit....born there, but value my life!) LEFT D decades ago!
Once tear program starts it's over!
It’s wild how much the platform has worsened. I have had an 80-70% AR in 2023, able to make good money with just DoorDash. With that same acceptance rate, it now is paying less per delivery than UE and IC in 2024. At this point, I only turn the app on when I’m parked and waiting for orders, when I haven’t already gotten an order on the other apps, and pausing it every time I’m driving. There’s an opportunity cost just turning the app on now. I’m closer to getting into ride-share than I’ve ever been before.
Its the investors slamming there fists down on the table at Tony Xu , saying wheres our money!
@@danguts2844 Honestly! At this point, I’m investing a nickel of every dollar I get from DD in its stock, just to feel like I’m getting my cut! 😂😂😂
@@danguts2844Greedy investors always lose in the end….
Anyone notice how much worse Door Dash has gotten since it started being traded on the Stock Market. This is what happens to companies that sell out to the public investors.
Yeah, I seen it at comcast cable, centurylink, and other big corps I've worked for. its the World Economic Forum ripping the world off
That what usually happens it makes sense tho in the future they was ai to be doing deliverys they look at us as just cattle rn it's not 2018 no more
I haven't done door dash this year at all, it's not worth my time energy or effort to get a 30 minute window of time to reject a $2.50 McDonald's order going 4 miles, then hoping and praying I can dash now once my 30 minute block of time is up
If I see one garbage order $2 for 4 miles I immediately click on the END DASH Then go to a different app because that's how i protect my AR
I mirror your ending thoughts exactly. Because of the way the company is often regarded by dashers, customers, and myself, I feel less proud (almost shameful) saying I'm a dasher.
It's also demoralizing mastering your market over years, and getting less in return.
Agreed. No reward for all that hard work.
I'm planning my exit strategy...started in 2022, time to get out. Not making the same money nowadays
Already got out of it!
If they don't want full time dashers, then why does the platinum level require at least 100 deliveries per month?
Full time is doing 400 deliveries a month is what I did! but then I downloaded more and more apps to see who is willing to pay bank for my time!
yea I don't agree either that they don't want full time dashers, that statement didnt make sense at all
I think it was bull city dasher that said it requires 200 deliveries a month to get the large catering orders! I reached out to some dude on youtube making bank on 100 dollar orders on catering and asked him do you make that every day? He said yes! I got catering orders that paid 28-76 dollars but I dont think that was the large order program as I felt it was the medium order program or something.
@@bertolucasfilms "full time" drivers tend to understand the app better. we knew how to make money on the platform by being more selective. what doordash wants are honeymooners. these are new drivers who take everything because they get a larger share of better orders. after the honeymoon they get a larger share of trash orders. lets say half of your orders are 8-10 bucks, you're much more willing to take the lower paying offers because you're making money. but once the honeymoon ends and you're not making the money you're less willing to take those trash orders and you stop doing doordash. there are far more regular drivers than honeymooners. say there are 100 drivers in your area, 10-20 of them are honeymooners and are getting all the good orders. 80-90 are long term drivers. doordash doesnt care that you're not making money, they are going to milk drivers as much as they can until they quit. they have very low overhead on drivers. base pay is 2 dollars and they're probably making 15 dollars an order. there is no pressure on DD to give a larger share of the money to drivers when they can just hire another driver when they get burned out. thats probably why he's saying that DD doesnt want full time drivers, they want the revolving door of new drivers who just take order until they go broke and get sick of it. make no mistake, you WILL go broke driving for doordash, its just a matter of time. how long will you continue to take trash orders after your honeymoon until you realize theres too many drivers for the share of decent orders. this is why drivers are always complaining about either low base pay or low tip. DD does NOTHING to help the driver. they dont incentivize the customers to give higher ratings (customers only rate when there is a problem, thus low ratings), they dont inform the customers on the actual role of the drivers (bags are sealed but drivers get low rating when items are missing), they dont do enough to promote better tipping from the customers (imform the customer about high milage or fair tipping practices). DD doesnt give the ability for drivers to rate customers (rudeness, no lights on at house, dogs, lack of response etc) most customers order doordash and never look at their phone again, they dont add tips. all year, ive had 1, 1 single customer add a couple bucks after delivery, and in 4 months ive made $15 dollars in cash tips $10 of that from one customer. 90% of my customers never even respond or look at messages or have hand it to me and never show up at the door adding 5 more minutes to the delivery and i have to stand outside the door like a creepy stalker waiting on that 5 minute timer. If DD allowed drivers to rate customers, and customers had to pay more when they have low ratings then shit would change real fast. sadly, DD wants new drivers and high volume of low quality. remember, DD makes the same amount of money regardless if the customer tips. they just want volume. they simply do not care if customers tip. long winded, but there;s your answer.
Lol this a bad question tbh.
2024 I’m working about 35 hrs less a week then 2023. I’m focusing on instacart and Uber eats
just today - $2 ORDER HAND IT OVER - NO ONE SHOWS UP THEN MADE ME WAIT 5 MINUTES - TOOK PICTURE AND LEFT IT AT THE DOOR - 2 HOURS LATER LEFT 1 STAR RATING FOR LEAVING THE ORDER AT THE DOOR - CALLS AND MESSAGES NO RESPONSE - DOOR BELL NO RESPONSE - WHAT ELSE - ACCORDING TO DD MUST LEAVE IT AT THE DOOR - BUT CUSTOMER CALLS DD AND SAYS WHY NO CALLS FROM DD - WELL DD AND I CALLED THEM - GOES DIRECTLY TO VOICE BOX - WHAT GIVES? STILL MANAGED TO LEAVE ONE STAR - HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE???????
Exactly same thing happened to me 2 days ago.
Spiteful maglomaniac "customer" gave a -ve👎.
I knew what was coming, and I called DD to report the situation & even though it wasn't worth my time, I still made them document it to be removed.
After all , it isn't worth it, but I would never slide a single -ve impact on my metrics anymore
update: unfair rating has been removed and customer was unmatched for good - :)
@@NashBrooklyn ALWAYS TAKE AS MANY PICS AS POSSIBLE + letting DD KNOW! I've had that happen & they removed the unfair comment/rating
Nice to meet you buddy! My name is Anthony and I want to thank you for inspiring me to create my own delivery ride along TH-cam channel, Deliver To The Hungry! Be safe my friend!
I’m signed into the app for about 35 hours a week but my active delivery times are around 20 hours a week
If everyone is LEAVING the DD program; then how is DD OVER SATURATED?? However my area is a small market that does include a LOW PAY/ HIGH MILE market ( semi rural). Quite often I see " $5.00 for 16 miles (one way) " offers. Sometimes I end up declining 3-4 offers in a row which brings down my AR quite significantly, and then somehow it takes TWICE the ACCEPTED offers to bring the AR back up to where it was ( strange how that percentage rate works)
I was working 6 hours 6 days a week averaging $25 an hour April 2023 until November when it started getting horrible! Know if I Dash it’s for an hour or two and I just get so frustrated with the horrible orders. It is now May 2024 and I didn’t even bother making top dasher, all that work and I’m lucky if I’m making $15-$18 an hour. And that is before deducting wear and tear on the car, gas, miles. It’s sad because I really enjoyed the job.
I've basically ditched the app. After expenses, I was making a net $7.50 per hour. This isn't accounting for a possible accident, flat tire or other vehicle incident. I would consider it worse than slavery, at last as a slave you have no expenses or liability.
I feel this way about Uber and I sense a lot more resentment towards Uber now. Maybe this is the year we all just give up on these apps that keep manipulating us to take lower and lower paying orders.
I haven’t been doing DD for a few months now. It honestly gave me a bad attitude and I always questioned myself if DD was keeping my tips. I wondered who was behind thinking I’m not worth more than a base pay. DD does not appreciate the people who make it happen for them. After gas, maintenance and taxes, it’s not worth it but especially feeling like you’re not valued by either the company or the customer is toxic.
irs compensate you 65 cents per mile
@@jimmyboyer9392 yes, but it’s only for the active miles. Not the miles back to the zone. Either way you still have to pay taxes on bs pay
@@christinaxtina 17888 active 27,000 looking
If food delivery were a singer 2020 - Taylor Swift/ Micheal Jackson/Elvis/ etc - 2024 - Milli Vanilli. A movie - 2020 Gone with the Wind/2001 Space Oddessy etc - 2024 Ishtar. A car - 2020 Porsche - 2024 AMC gremlin/Yugo-
I went back to delivering for a mom and pop pizza shop. I make a lot better money, I work a MUCH smaller delivery zone, which saves on gas, and I can get free food every time I work. DD and UE, in my market, are dead.
I went from top dasher 100+ deliveries a week to 6 in the last 30 days.I have good status and can almost never schedule a dash . So I can't get 100 a 100 deliveries to get platium. I'm pretty much done with door dash.
100 a week is good, you should have gotten rockin orders that are catering orders and good alcohol orders etc..Weird you cant schedule on DD as I can with an AR of 7%. Must be the market you are in. But I am steering way from DD to other apps until I land my job but platinum is way easier on UE vs DD aslong as you have a good customer ratings. AR doesnst exist anymore on GH or UE but only on DD.
That is what happens to me I quit back in November
@@danguts2844 I'm mostly doing rideshare now plus Uber eats and grub hub.can still make $200+ a day but a lot more miles. I used to average $12-14 an order on door dash now it's less than$7.00
Before they lowered the base pay to $2 for stacks I would see maybe 20% of orders come in as stacks in my market and now it's like 70% stacked offers with many being so awful not only with pay but distance and location as well. This is what I figured would happen now they got us on a bogo base pay deal
Yes, seeing a lot more stack offers & they are terrible.
Oversaturation is a big thing I talk with all the Dasher I come in contact with and you’d be surprised what they do for a living they are engineers ,teachers , nurses welders people that actually have decent paying jobs Except for the teachers, I see that one . I work 60 to 100 hours a week. Have above 80% acceptance rate hundred percent completion and I’m not seeing orders for our hours where before I could start at 5 o’clock in the morning and be busy till 2 o’clock at night the pay has dropped dramatically, and most of the orders are upside down It used to be when they stacked in order you hit the lottery excited about taking stack orders now they’re stacking three orders for six bucks. Want you to drive 10 miles I’m still making money, but the game is getting harder to play
I completely agree. My market is saturated to the point where I can't dash now or schedule. Getting out or it altogether in a few weeks.
Everytime I get UberEats delivered I’m wondering how the person justifies all of the gas and mileage
Hopefully it's atleast $1 per mile if ur tipping good enough then 2x per mile is what we look for.
In California it has to be $2 per mile with our high gas prices @@Nick_Bollinger
That's why I'm picky about what I accept I believe most drivers just take whatever hits their phone. Can't make any viable profit taking an order going 10 miles for 6 dollars.
Uber eats is far miles but when u do take a good order they ALWAYS TIP ME WAYYYYYY BETTER TGAN DOORDASH. I try n do both n it has changed the game for me!
@dianaseverns7228 ya I can't uber wouldn't let me bc of some 10 yr old minor ticket that the agency found but doordash I passed with no problems smh. Sucks bc Uber runs alot of other programs such as uber eats, instalation, etc...
Last year 4 hours a day 7 days a week earning average $800 - $1,100 a week
This year 1-2 hours a day 7 days a week earning average $100 - $150 a week
Less hours this year due to cheap orders and more waiting
Same here
😮😮
I only do DoorDash about 3 hours a day when I used to do around 5-6. On top of that, if I don’t start getting orders within 20 minutes I’ll just go home and say screw it. Hardly worth the time anymore
I know this is the opposite for a lot of people. But I have equal metrics on D.D. and U.E. I consistently receive better orders on U.E, I've seen some of the worst orders on U.E as well, but I never feel punished for not taking them.There is the micromanaging that goes on with D.D. that I dislike. The reason we do this *is* freedom and flexibility. D.D in my opinion, is the least flexible.
I'm down to only 14 hours a week. Had to get a W-2 job. Costco is a great company to work! Grest insurance for $25 every 2 weeks.
My base pay has been $2.00 in my area and then today I noticed it changed starting from $2.00 up to $5.00 depending on how far I have to drive. I use to make $700 a week and now I'm lucky to make $300. I work six days a week working lunch and dinner during the week and all day on Saturday and Sunday. I've noticed Friday nights aren't busy in my area. I'm in middle Georgia. It's really hard to keep my AR up. I'm also working Uber eats when it's not busy with doordash.
Same! Had a 6 mile offer with a base of $7 yesterday. A couple others were $5 base and I haven’t seen that in awhile, I was and am still a little confused but not complaining lol
its not based on how far you have to drive and its the same as its always been. The base pay no matter how far the order or the size of it its always $2. It goes up .25 for every time the order has been declined by other drivers. If your base pay for example is $5 that means that 12 drivers have already declined the order before you got it
@@bennyisqualmless the base pay goes up by .25 every single time another driver declines the order it has nothing directly to do with how far the order is going. Even far orders they still offer it to the first driver they send it to for $2
@@mickeyc2137 no shit, I know lol probably been doing this longer than most
Yeah it's typical.. higher ratings a driver has all equal higher mileage offers.. the thing is.. over the extended period of the dash the miles to money ratio keeps shrinking until it's at best a 1:1 ratio. Same thing with peak pay. Algorithm has a consistent objective while human nature will give and take. Pay closer attention. It's nothing personal it's a programmed algorithm..it just tends to out last most people's resolve.. LoL
Haven't dashed in a month and it feels great. No more hoops to jump through and no more no tipping scum to deal with. I hope I never have to dash again.
Same. I don't think I can even go back and do that trash anymore.
it’s the false hotspots that annoy me, I need to know exactly how many orders are hitting and where at.
Good stuff dude i have its hard to even get a job cuz of the wait list
The open borders have consequences.
7 years ago my brother-in-law only doing Uber Eats no other apps could make over $150,000 a year. Now there's no way you could even come close to that running 5 apps. So much has changed over the years. Sending love from Los Angeles 💛💜
Illegal aliens plus inflation
If you have 50 million new illegal alien criminal invaders since that came across since Biden took office, you're going to end up making 12 dollars / day doing Door Dash
I just signed up for my third catering app. 💯💯💯
PArt of the other problem is that other Apps have followed DD business model of pay and oversaturation of drivers. They too are going down the tubes
Ya Platinum was sweet for 2 days then I had 2 terrible days and went from 76% to 69% but I accepted every order today (all atleast $1 per mile) amd still at 69%. The rolling 100 is bs.
I fought for the longest time to resist multi mapping. This last year of oversaturation for the holidays drove me to start taking uber and lyft passengers. Net pay is still more even with tripling my gas consumption. Shame, because I loved / still love doordash, but I'm doing this for a living, and can't afford to keep hoping equilibrium comes soon.
Doordash Is Beyond SLAVE LABOR in My Market.....Im TOTALLY DONE!!!!!
ZERO confidence that I'll have a good day anymore. They're squeezing the very life out of me. I've grown to hate it
Multi-apping is the only way to go, I refuse to take orders with no tips. Think about getting a W2 job to be on the safe side when the gig jobs slow exponentially.
Not worth waiting for an order and then one comes in for a few dollars. Enough for gas and no profit!
I watched a guy at a restaurant using an app to translate to a door dash driver that he was at the wrong restaurant...lol So yea door dash standards are way down.
Ive had uber eats customers tell me they refuse to order food through the DD app because they are afraid of non english speaking customers or drivers that look like hood rats LOL
I totally agree with you I definitely have seen a difference with pay
I left after the implementation of this latest tier program ... I'll have to take bullshit orders for weeks to get back to where I can get a half decent chance to schedule a shift . AR wasn't supposed to matter but they turn about and makes AR matter very much. In my market, DD has better gross volume of offers ,well..offered. BUt 4 out of 5 of those orders being 'trash' Mostly low tip / no tip orders ... In my market, uber has far fewer orders to throw out.. sure I'll hear crickets better part of an hour , but I know there are far better odds of getting an over $6 , $8 , $10 order delivering within 4 miles or less..
I used to have an AR of 80% in AZ, but even at that level, DD was giving me so much trash that my AR dropped to 58%. In the past 2 weeks, I have gone from receiving at least one catering order every other day to receiving none!! My weekly pay has dropped from $400/week (4hrs x 5 days) to just over $230/per with the same hours.
Move out of the the hood bro!!!! End of story!!!!!
@@danguts2844Everyone doesn’t live in a trailer park…
I did DoorDash full-time for five months and I learned one thing. the pay is nowhere near good enough to cover the expenses. people out here talking about I made $200 last night. No you didn’t. You’re not subtracting gas you’re not subtracting wear and tear on your car and you’re not subtracting taxes.
Doortrash is like the mafia
The mob is way better at profit sharing
I use to use other apps as fill in apps when DD was slow. Now DD is the filler when Spark is slow. After a year I come to terms that they do not care about drivers. They want folks to deliver at the lowest possible price. I’m just so over DD n their games.
I quit for many reasons but one main reason was pay. Fellow DD drivers ruined it for us by taking $2.00 orders and DD doesnt have your back if you are legit. How they even in business is beyond me.
At this point I use Doordash only when it's slow in my area! AR is like 14%. UE is basically all I do.
Honestly after four years full time I just got sick of being in a car 8-10 hours a day.
I'm living every thing you are saying!
Hey Pedro… 12 hundred completed deliveries… thanks for the knowledge young man …Only doin this to stay busy but not much longer… Northern Delaware territory…We as a group are tripping over each other round here … Feel bad for the folks who depend on these APPS to make their nut each month… gotta be working 60-70 per week for what they used to make in 35-40… tough sleddin for sure. Stay well and be safe ✅
I door dash out here in Las Vegas, haven’t had any issue in my market! Ever since I hit 85% acceptance rate, the smallest order I’ve seen has been about $10. The largest one I’ve seen was about 44$. I rarely have downtime inbetween orders because they’re always popping up.
How much are you making a day with DoorDash in your market?
?
Cap
Paid shill alert. I'm in Vegas and DD is trash.
@@tyharris9994 idk what you’re doing wrong. I accept everything. Even if it’s $2. I haven’t seen anything that low for a while though. What times and zones do you usually DD in?
I was working my butt off last year. As of January 1st, the maps are blank & there's no work. It says I can schedule, but nothing is available on the schedule until 11:30pm or 6am next day. It is crazy! Today I decided to take every order from 8am to 9:30am then it showed it was dead in 5 cities in my area. I took 4 runs & only made $13 during the above time.
I started Doordash full time January 2022. I made $75k that year in a market avg income is $30k. 2023 I made $65k. Down from previous year but still good. This year 2024 I make $50 a week. It collapsed.
DoorDash is about to learn what happened to Lyft and Uber. Local cab/taxi companies came in to compete and beat them out of the market.
Same here Door dash is down to $50 a week and that's working side by side with Uber at 24 hours a week not worth it.
What happened to Uber I’m confused.
@@jessharris8294 Uber/Lyft have been reducing driver pay every 4 to 6 months for the last 2 years. While at the same time increasing prices for customers.
They are losing their labor force and competition is under cutting on price.
I do not understand why is so difficult to understand that if the market is not good , DD cannot create orders that do not exist. It wont be as it was during Covid . Live with that and accept it.
Very simple and true as you stated, DD does not have the orders anymore, it does not matter if you have 30 drivers or 300, slave mindeset
But Pedro, other apps are be over saturated.
It's to the point of all gig apps having a waitlist.
Here's how it works
Company opens, offers drivers insane rates to draw them in, while offering lower prices for the customer. Then after they have you hooked, they slowly back off on paying you while also charging the customer more. Meaning the customer has less money to give you for your service then they would if you would worked for just papa johns.
Pretty soon when I start my new job with my bud, I will just make 50 a month on gig apps and , if you make 600 a yr you dont have to pay taxes on it!
Since when?
Man, I agree. 2 and 1/2 hours no dash. I got an UE for 12.00 no tip. I'm about to turn it off.
I was done yesterday when DoorDash tried to send me 22 miles for $5. After 5-mile-long dirt roads (I live in WV) for $3 and no tips, standing around 20 minutes for orders that were not done or got forgotten, and having a drink thrown at my car because the ice melted due to the restaurant giving it to me with very little ice...yeah...Nerp!
DD is still pretty stable for me. Worst case scenario I can go back to being a nursing assistant. probably take me about a month between getting my certs back and everything else involved. But after 20+ years and a pandemic I'm good where I am.
same, I don't know what this guy be talking about lol
@@bertolucasfilms Wait until your numbers have to be so high you can't stay in the top tiers.
Not to mention
Now if the store employee dosent like your face or the shirt your wearing forget about ever getting orders from the place again EVER!!!
For me:
McDonald's: forget about it
Safeway: forget about it
Mel's drive in: forget about it
They don't even own the place and they get to pick and choose who gets the order and if you ever get to deliver an order from any of their locations again......
This here is some certified bs.
I don’t know what area you guys are in but my area is constantly busy been doing a lot of shop and pays yesterday and today they pay really well.
The more you do, the less and less they pay as you get faster and faster and faster at em. Pretty soon that shop n pay that paid 50 dollars, then turns into 42, and then 32 and then 22 and then 9 is what Ive seen!
@@danguts2844 ya but I don’t I multi app in my area there are tons of lazy people and college kids that don’t have cars just right now did 3 stops shake shack and 2 McDonald’s orders made $19 in 30 min. Had a $13 cvs going 2.1 miles.
Doordash was a good way to make money back in the day. Nowadays, its just not worth it.
You dasher bros crack me up! I’m making the same money I was making managing a high end restaurant. Still get my health insurance paid because I live in California. Get paid to wait for an order because I live in California. The only thing I don’t get is having my phone paid for🤷🏼♀️. No more free food but I set my own hours and can help out with my grandkids whenever I want. Take a break whenever I want. Been doing it over two years now. Full time for the past fourteen months. Go ahead and keep lamenting big government intervention and I’ll continue being grateful that at least my state taxes go to protect human/workers rights.
I’m not able to see my zone to schedule a dash now. My AR took a hit last week from 83-63. I don’t know what to do, it’s probably best for me personally to see what else is out there.
Yup same here It's happening to me right now and happened a few weeks ago. Every zone except my zone has scheduled times. They said it's because people grabbed the shifts first but that wouldn't be possible since I checked it at 3pm when Platinum and had first access and it wasn't there. It's got to be a bug or oversaturation but it's BS.
@@Nick_Bollinger I just raised my AR to 70% and can now schedule. I’m wondering if this is a new thing and that they’re testing in certain markets where you have to be gold or platinum in order to schedule 🤔
@Ranbutch75 I noticed everytime it happened it was when I lost platinum, trying to explain that to worst support ever is no use unfortunately...I'm acrewed
agree i got a order to do shop for $7.00 5 mile an 25 pieces to the order. that is crazy .
I got a job, THANK U GOD
😂😂 you missing out .. come on down and dash with us it’s gonna be fun 😂😂😂😂
Seeing all the illegal/double-phone people in the SF Bay area is unmotivating. These people dont have ID's/insurance/common sense and DD loves it
Yea man they killing the spirit of America I will NEVER order doordash knowing someone that is illegal is delivering my food
Dash No more baybee!!
Thanks all the hard work you do for us bro informing us love ya bro
I want to leave because of what I call the Russian mofia
I used to make a bunch of money in my own average neighborhood now I have to go to rich affluent areas in order to get good orders
Massive micromanaging. Way too much . Feel like I'm a brand new driver every time i dash and i have 22k deliveries
2,200 or 22,000 ? 😮
@@Breezyaon1 22,000 April 17, 2016
@@Breezyaon1 doordash 22,353 Uber eats 11,270 Amazon 2200 Spark 1428
When I started doing gig work in 2022, DD and UE, were the fastest and easiest to start. Spent almost a year doing mainly DD alone. Now I've got 6 apps and counting that I can choose from and very rarely even open DD anymore.
i hate this app
😅😂
This is my second year and it’s not a need just extra money but I treat myself like I’m my own dedicated employee. I do what’s best for me