Pimlico in 1970: Creation of the Churchill and Lillington Estates

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  • Made in 1970, and featuring architecture critic Ian Nairn, this film shows post war Pimlico, and the pioneering developments of the Churchill Estate, which replaced bomb damaged Victorian terraces and slums, and was completed in 1962, and the Lillington Estate, which was still to be completed at the time of this film.
    Some interesting film of Pimlico at this time, much of which has since been replaced by yet more new building.
    It is interesting to note, for instance that Tachbrook Street market is shown, and the East side of it is still as it was before the Lillington Estate was completed.
    The old Woolworth's in Wilton Road is still evident, as are many of the now demolished building in that street.
    Comparing the
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  • @peterroberts6061
    @peterroberts6061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Stunned. The doctor and his wife are my late parents. I have no film or audio of either of them. Wonderful.

    • @paulwardley354
      @paulwardley354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I remember your mum Peter being welsh was good friends with my mother I lived in Wilkins house

    • @Intake33
      @Intake33 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow, just wow.

    • @nolandalby5969
      @nolandalby5969 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      amazing ❤

    • @nicholashannigan6930
      @nicholashannigan6930 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You must've been so happily shocked to see your Mum & Dad in this..
      What a result!
      My Mum passed in 2019 & I also don't have moving footage of her so I can understand your glee.
      I'm pleased for you.

    • @GEGBoxing
      @GEGBoxing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s marvellous.

  • @BrendaAndrews-ck2fq
    @BrendaAndrews-ck2fq หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I lived on The Lillington Gardens Estate in the late 60/70s. We moved from Millbank to a larger flat. We moved into a brand new flat and our living room was the window above what he called the arch. I loved living there and have very fond memories of Pimlico. It was a great place to be brought up.
    One of my sisters still live in Pimlico.

  • @TransportGeekery
    @TransportGeekery 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow. What a man. He speaks so well. I visited Pimlico loads of times and watching this has made me very happy.

  • @grantbeerling4396
    @grantbeerling4396 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Worked in Pimlico, and so much has stayed the same since this film. Both estates look in good repair, but the Lillington Estate does have a few waterproofing issues, as many buildings of that style from that period were designed ahead of material technology. As a Landscape Architect and former Bricklayer, the design and construction quality shines thorough. Need to visit the pub!

  • @sleddy12345
    @sleddy12345 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Classic Nairn - wonderful

  • @beniaminovitagliano2839
    @beniaminovitagliano2839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    WOW! Just stumbled upon this video, been living in Pimlico for over three years now. I was shocked when the cameraman zoomed out @10:20 to show my balcony :D

  • @colingymer
    @colingymer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Always pleasing to find another piece by the late, lamented Ian Nairn.

  • @eedgelord1471
    @eedgelord1471 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is so comfy and amazing. I almost can't believe Ian Nairn was real.

  • @andyskelton7223
    @andyskelton7223 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a fabulous trip down memory lane, the Nostalgia just Oozes from Nairn bless him.

  • @hirschowitz1
    @hirschowitz1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Marvelous documentary. The late Ian Nairn and Jonathan Meades..... most eloquent architectural/ social commentaries on the 20th century..... western society anyway. I enjoyed his Jane Jacobs reference ... I live in Manhattan and it’s 2020...... it’s become an un-liveable, grubby capitalist slum.... for most of us. Thank you for this. Miss Jenny

  • @tedkelly4663
    @tedkelly4663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very informative. Thank you. Lived there until 1970 in Abbots Manor Estate in Winchester Street.Great memories,

  • @josephomalley1526
    @josephomalley1526 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Bless Ian Nairn

    • @hirschowitz1
      @hirschowitz1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doesn’t detract from his most eloquent legacy. Thank you for your comment. Miss Jenny

  • @zoesays3830
    @zoesays3830 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good trip down memory lane! Look at Woolies @2:25

  • @arnoldattard1146
    @arnoldattard1146 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    More of Nairn's on London, please.

  • @michaelmcfadden403
    @michaelmcfadden403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The doctor in that clip was my doctor and my mothers and her mother. Dr Robers who's surgery was in Wilton Road.

    • @peterroberts6061
      @peterroberts6061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It was Dr Roberts, Mr McFadden. He was my father. He died 35 years ago. The surgery was - and still is - in Denbigh Street, not Wilton Road.
      Churchill Gardens was a fabulous place to be a kid in the 1960s. Two primary schools were on the estate. There was loads of open space and four playgrounds. For the older kids there were sports pitches, scout and guide groups and one or two youth clubs. The pubs weren't too fussy about you being 18 in those days either.

    • @keithdonnellan5564
      @keithdonnellan5564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@peterroberts6061 - I lived in Chippendale House. I'm 72 now but CG was beautiful then. It's now ruined with the usual imported rubbish. Thankfully I no longer live in London. I understand your feelings as a kid because I loved it in the 1960's when I was about 12 years old about the same years as you.

    • @Bloxdio_God
      @Bloxdio_God 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@peterroberts6061 My GP was at that surgery since I was a kid - Dr Regan was our Doctor and Dr Roberts was my Mothers Dr and her Mother and Father too. My now wife was receptionist at the Denbigh St surgery.

  • @Domdeone1
    @Domdeone1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish met him..a real ale drinker too, old school thinker of what was going [disastrously] wrong in post-war urban planning

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:43 Used to walk through here on the way to Pimlico Comprehensive as a young'un. It's weird walking through Edwardian terraces and then suddenly 70s Modernist council housing blocks style architecture. I remember looking at the concrete arches that run along that section, making a roof and a walkway above. To be honest it looks pretty cheap and bland, but at that age you don't question your environment or why it's there.

  • @mrlotusmic
    @mrlotusmic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah. Eccleston Square. I live opposite the gate he walked through. That planter in the middle is still there. Filmed the same year I was born 🤔

  • @wuffothewonderdog
    @wuffothewonderdog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4.95 - a doctor visiting a patient!
    What a long vanished happening.
    In the background at 7.56 is the pub that I remember visiting in the '50/60s.
    Was it called The Gun? Perhaps someone remembers.
    I don't think its there any more.
    There was a rather tasty girl called Voedean who lived in those townhouses facing the river.
    Lots of us fancied her.

    • @bencorbally1040
      @bencorbally1040 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was the pub called William IV ?

    • @hazelwray4184
      @hazelwray4184 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Voedean? Is that a Dutch name?

  • @ajs41
    @ajs41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sadly Ian Nairn died at the age of 52 in 1983 from heavy drinking.

    • @minair99t
      @minair99t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What a dreadful waste of intelligence, intellect and common sense Ian's early death was.If you enjoyed this film seek out Nairn's London and other books.

  • @77roadhog
    @77roadhog 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Opening credits and themes used to be so much better

  • @forthrightgambitia1032
    @forthrightgambitia1032 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is strange to think the children in this will now be approaching retirement.

  • @AndrisLelisTravelChanel
    @AndrisLelisTravelChanel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic vintage film cameras video, super super super 👍👍👍

  • @davidfrancis949
    @davidfrancis949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WE ARE THE PIMLICANS WE ARE THE PIMLICANS

  • @jasont9294
    @jasont9294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anybody know the name of the pub he was in, and if it's still there?

    • @orangewarm1
      @orangewarm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of those old pubs are still there. I dont know the name but I think it's on Lupus street, either near the station or opposite the school.

    • @peterroberts6061
      @peterroberts6061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was called The Pimlico Tram. Nice Pool area - in 1975. The name changed. I think it is still going and called 'The Cask'

    • @peterroberts6061
      @peterroberts6061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, Lee. Just off Vauxhall Bridge Road, on the north edge of the estate.

    • @keithdonnellan5564
      @keithdonnellan5564 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Devonshire Arms is gone, along with most other pubs. The place is now a ghost town.

    • @mickmassey984
      @mickmassey984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks like the lord high admiral to me

  • @paullewis2413
    @paullewis2413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The blandness of 1950's/1960's architecture on full view. Replacing "slums", i.e. Victorian houses that had deteriorated but could have easily been restored but that was the agenda of those times. Now people pay millions to live in a 19th c terrace house in the area but not in those dated estates.

    • @peterroberts6061
      @peterroberts6061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No they couldn't easily have been restored. Most of the streets leading down to the Thames where Churchill Gardens was built were full of lower quality houses than those North of Lupus Street. The whole of Pimlico had also suffered very heavy bombing.
      The first area 'gentrified' was the Denbigh Triangle. The surviving houses there were worth restoring but before the work started I played on bombsites there.
      We moved on to Churchill Gardens in 1962. We lived in one of the two 'posh' terraces but all my friends lived in the flats and everyone loved the place. Since then I've seen the insides of a lot of earlier LCC flats and there is no comparison. Very glad I grew up there.

    • @stashedawayman1521
      @stashedawayman1521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@peterroberts6061 I don't know Pimlico well at all as I live in Hertfordshire but my great-grandmother was living at 142, Lillington Street at the time of her death in 1904. I understand that the street was virtually obliterated on the 8th March 1941 by a high explosive German bomb in WWII, so there was little chance 'restoring' those houses. I intend to visit the area soon to view any surviving pre-1900 buildings. I must say that I enjoyed reading your reply to Paul Lewis's rather uninformed comment.

    • @markofsaltburn
      @markofsaltburn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many terraces that survive from that era throughout the country remain unsaleable; only immigrants want them. You can’t make a silk purse out of the proverbial sow’s ear.
      The past, as ever, remains a fanciful refuge for people that didn’t have to live there.

    • @paullewis2413
      @paullewis2413 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markofsaltburn h
      How people lived in the past has nothing to do with reusing/renovating for contemporary living instead of wasteful destruction. Restored terraces throughout the country have proved to be far preferable to 60’s and 70’s horrors that just breed crime.

  • @orangewarm1
    @orangewarm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pimlico was gonna be a ghetto? I'd kill to live there. Not on those estates though. The rich people built those estates thinking they'd be some kind of utopia.

  • @ramsey633
    @ramsey633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    churchill has become like most council estates now full of immigrants who dont care about the place and looks run down same with lupus st all awful shops

    • @user-ug3zm3jh4p
      @user-ug3zm3jh4p 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Full of immigrants? Wouldn’t say that most of my friends that live in Churchill are white British

  • @davidfrancis949
    @davidfrancis949 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JEHOVAH IS PATIENT MERCIFUL THATS WHY THE FOUR ANGELS HOLD TIGHT THE SACRED SECRETS OF THE SPIRIT OF JEHOVAH LOOK AT YOUR SOULS FOR TOUCHING MY PC YOUR BURNS FROM THE ANGEL OF GOD WILL BE RADIATION

  • @jeffreybickerton4422
    @jeffreybickerton4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The snobbery of architecture created these eyesores...socialism at it's worst...you can dress it up with fancy narrative but they were simply awful projects

    • @alievera1993
      @alievera1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What makes you say that? As in why do you think so? Interested in your opinion

    • @MrMnemonix
      @MrMnemonix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They were built as decent homes for people by the council and those who lived and still live in them loved them. Me included. Great way to show your ignorance and prejudice.

    • @johnmcardle8969
      @johnmcardle8969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Westminster City Council is known for a lot of things but I’m not sure ‘socialism’ is one of them.

    • @hazelwray4184
      @hazelwray4184 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Insalubrious slums and the wreckage of world war set the stage for socialist policies.
      Socialism has long been a vague term. Otto von Bismark was labelled a socialist by his critics, lol.
      The statist, top-down approach of Labour was arguably closer to corporatism. Necessary, in my opinion, but didn't to my knowledge, encourage grass-roots participation.

  • @davidfrancis949
    @davidfrancis949 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    THE KEYS OF JEHOVAH OPENINGS THROUGH JEHOVAHS ACTIVE FORCE ONCE CARRIED IN ITS POWER IF YOU TOUCH ITS NOT LIKE THE ARK ITS THE REALITY