You must've been so happily shocked to see your Mum & Dad in this.. What a result! My Mum passed in 2019 & I also don't have moving footage of her so I can understand your glee. I'm pleased for you.
Worked in Pimlico, and so much has stayed the same since this film. Both estates look in good repair, but the Lillington Estate does have a few waterproofing issues, as many buildings of that style from that period were designed ahead of material technology. As a Landscape Architect and former Bricklayer, the design and construction quality shines thorough. Need to visit the pub!
Marvelous documentary. The late Ian Nairn and Jonathan Meades..... most eloquent architectural/ social commentaries on the 20th century..... western society anyway. I enjoyed his Jane Jacobs reference ... I live in Manhattan and it’s 2020...... it’s become an un-liveable, grubby capitalist slum.... for most of us. Thank you for this. Miss Jenny
WOW! Just stumbled upon this video, been living in Pimlico for over three years now. I was shocked when the cameraman zoomed out @10:20 to show my balcony :D
I lived on The Lillington Gardens Estate in the late 60/70s. We moved from Millbank to a larger flat. We moved into a brand new flat and our living room was the window above what he called the arch. I loved living there and have very fond memories of Pimlico. It was a great place to be brought up. One of my sisters still live in Pimlico.
5:43 Used to walk through here on the way to Pimlico Comprehensive as a young'un. It's weird walking through Edwardian terraces and then suddenly 70s Modernist council housing blocks style architecture. I remember looking at the concrete arches that run along that section, making a roof and a walkway above. To be honest it looks pretty cheap and bland, but at that age you don't question your environment or why it's there.
It was Dr Roberts, Mr McFadden. He was my father. He died 35 years ago. The surgery was - and still is - in Denbigh Street, not Wilton Road. Churchill Gardens was a fabulous place to be a kid in the 1960s. Two primary schools were on the estate. There was loads of open space and four playgrounds. For the older kids there were sports pitches, scout and guide groups and one or two youth clubs. The pubs weren't too fussy about you being 18 in those days either.
@@peterroberts6061 - I lived in Chippendale House. I'm 72 now but CG was beautiful then. It's now ruined with the usual imported rubbish. Thankfully I no longer live in London. I understand your feelings as a kid because I loved it in the 1960's when I was about 12 years old about the same years as you.
@@peterroberts6061 My GP was at that surgery since I was a kid - Dr Regan was our Doctor and Dr Roberts was my Mothers Dr and her Mother and Father too. My now wife was receptionist at the Denbigh St surgery.
@@peterroberts6061 Denbigh Street surgery closed quite a few years agao and merged with The Marven on Lupus street - and both surgeries together now known as Pimlico Health at the Marven'.
4.95 - a doctor visiting a patient! What a long vanished happening. In the background at 7.56 is the pub that I remember visiting in the '50/60s. Was it called The Gun? Perhaps someone remembers. I don't think its there any more. There was a rather tasty girl called Voedean who lived in those townhouses facing the river. Lots of us fancied her.
What a dreadful waste of intelligence, intellect and common sense Ian's early death was.If you enjoyed this film seek out Nairn's London and other books.
A lot of the Council flats there would be sold off to private now . A lot of the flats given to people that have been in the country 5 minutes. I'd be surprised if theyre 50% English occupied. Always puzzles me how foreigners have access to British social housing!
The blandness of 1950's/1960's architecture on full view. Replacing "slums", i.e. Victorian houses that had deteriorated but could have easily been restored but that was the agenda of those times. Now people pay millions to live in a 19th c terrace house in the area but not in those dated estates.
No they couldn't easily have been restored. Most of the streets leading down to the Thames where Churchill Gardens was built were full of lower quality houses than those North of Lupus Street. The whole of Pimlico had also suffered very heavy bombing. The first area 'gentrified' was the Denbigh Triangle. The surviving houses there were worth restoring but before the work started I played on bombsites there. We moved on to Churchill Gardens in 1962. We lived in one of the two 'posh' terraces but all my friends lived in the flats and everyone loved the place. Since then I've seen the insides of a lot of earlier LCC flats and there is no comparison. Very glad I grew up there.
@@peterroberts6061 I don't know Pimlico well at all as I live in Hertfordshire but my great-grandmother was living at 142, Lillington Street at the time of her death in 1904. I understand that the street was virtually obliterated on the 8th March 1941 by a high explosive German bomb in WWII, so there was little chance 'restoring' those houses. I intend to visit the area soon to view any surviving pre-1900 buildings. I must say that I enjoyed reading your reply to Paul Lewis's rather uninformed comment.
Many terraces that survive from that era throughout the country remain unsaleable; only immigrants want them. You can’t make a silk purse out of the proverbial sow’s ear. The past, as ever, remains a fanciful refuge for people that didn’t have to live there.
@@markofsaltburn h How people lived in the past has nothing to do with reusing/renovating for contemporary living instead of wasteful destruction. Restored terraces throughout the country have proved to be far preferable to 60’s and 70’s horrors that just breed crime.
Pimlico was gonna be a ghetto? I'd kill to live there. Not on those estates though. The rich people built those estates thinking they'd be some kind of utopia.
churchill has become like most council estates now full of immigrants who dont care about the place and looks run down same with lupus st all awful shops
JEHOVAH IS PATIENT MERCIFUL THATS WHY THE FOUR ANGELS HOLD TIGHT THE SACRED SECRETS OF THE SPIRIT OF JEHOVAH LOOK AT YOUR SOULS FOR TOUCHING MY PC YOUR BURNS FROM THE ANGEL OF GOD WILL BE RADIATION
The snobbery of architecture created these eyesores...socialism at it's worst...you can dress it up with fancy narrative but they were simply awful projects
They were built as decent homes for people by the council and those who lived and still live in them loved them. Me included. Great way to show your ignorance and prejudice.
Insalubrious slums and the wreckage of world war set the stage for socialist policies. Socialism has long been a vague term. Otto von Bismark was labelled a socialist by his critics, lol. The statist, top-down approach of Labour was arguably closer to corporatism. Necessary, in my opinion, but didn't to my knowledge, encourage grass-roots participation.
Stunned. The doctor and his wife are my late parents. I have no film or audio of either of them. Wonderful.
I remember your mum Peter being welsh was good friends with my mother I lived in Wilkins house
Wow, just wow.
amazing ❤
You must've been so happily shocked to see your Mum & Dad in this..
What a result!
My Mum passed in 2019 & I also don't have moving footage of her so I can understand your glee.
I'm pleased for you.
That’s marvellous.
Wow. What a man. He speaks so well. I visited Pimlico loads of times and watching this has made me very happy.
Worked in Pimlico, and so much has stayed the same since this film. Both estates look in good repair, but the Lillington Estate does have a few waterproofing issues, as many buildings of that style from that period were designed ahead of material technology. As a Landscape Architect and former Bricklayer, the design and construction quality shines thorough. Need to visit the pub!
Always pleasing to find another piece by the late, lamented Ian Nairn.
Marvelous documentary. The late Ian Nairn and Jonathan Meades..... most eloquent architectural/ social commentaries on the 20th century..... western society anyway. I enjoyed his Jane Jacobs reference ... I live in Manhattan and it’s 2020...... it’s become an un-liveable, grubby capitalist slum.... for most of us. Thank you for this. Miss Jenny
WOW! Just stumbled upon this video, been living in Pimlico for over three years now. I was shocked when the cameraman zoomed out @10:20 to show my balcony :D
I lived on The Lillington Gardens Estate in the late 60/70s. We moved from Millbank to a larger flat. We moved into a brand new flat and our living room was the window above what he called the arch. I loved living there and have very fond memories of Pimlico. It was a great place to be brought up.
One of my sisters still live in Pimlico.
Very informative. Thank you. Lived there until 1970 in Abbots Manor Estate in Winchester Street.Great memories,
This is so comfy and amazing. I almost can't believe Ian Nairn was real.
Good trip down memory lane! Look at Woolies @2:25
What a fabulous trip down memory lane, the Nostalgia just Oozes from Nairn bless him.
Bless Ian Nairn
Doesn’t detract from his most eloquent legacy. Thank you for your comment. Miss Jenny
More of Nairn's on London, please.
5:43 Used to walk through here on the way to Pimlico Comprehensive as a young'un. It's weird walking through Edwardian terraces and then suddenly 70s Modernist council housing blocks style architecture. I remember looking at the concrete arches that run along that section, making a roof and a walkway above. To be honest it looks pretty cheap and bland, but at that age you don't question your environment or why it's there.
The doctor in that clip was my doctor and my mothers and her mother. Dr Robers who's surgery was in Wilton Road.
It was Dr Roberts, Mr McFadden. He was my father. He died 35 years ago. The surgery was - and still is - in Denbigh Street, not Wilton Road.
Churchill Gardens was a fabulous place to be a kid in the 1960s. Two primary schools were on the estate. There was loads of open space and four playgrounds. For the older kids there were sports pitches, scout and guide groups and one or two youth clubs. The pubs weren't too fussy about you being 18 in those days either.
@@peterroberts6061 - I lived in Chippendale House. I'm 72 now but CG was beautiful then. It's now ruined with the usual imported rubbish. Thankfully I no longer live in London. I understand your feelings as a kid because I loved it in the 1960's when I was about 12 years old about the same years as you.
@@peterroberts6061 My GP was at that surgery since I was a kid - Dr Regan was our Doctor and Dr Roberts was my Mothers Dr and her Mother and Father too. My now wife was receptionist at the Denbigh St surgery.
@@peterroberts6061 Denbigh Street surgery closed quite a few years agao and merged with The Marven on Lupus street - and both surgeries together now known as Pimlico Health at the Marven'.
Classic Nairn - wonderful
Ah. Eccleston Square. I live opposite the gate he walked through. That planter in the middle is still there. Filmed the same year I was born 🤔
I wish met him..a real ale drinker too, old school thinker of what was going [disastrously] wrong in post-war urban planning
4.95 - a doctor visiting a patient!
What a long vanished happening.
In the background at 7.56 is the pub that I remember visiting in the '50/60s.
Was it called The Gun? Perhaps someone remembers.
I don't think its there any more.
There was a rather tasty girl called Voedean who lived in those townhouses facing the river.
Lots of us fancied her.
Was the pub called William IV ?
Voedean? Is that a Dutch name?
Sadly Ian Nairn died at the age of 52 in 1983 from heavy drinking.
What a dreadful waste of intelligence, intellect and common sense Ian's early death was.If you enjoyed this film seek out Nairn's London and other books.
It is strange to think the children in this will now be approaching retirement.
fantastic vintage film cameras video, super super super 👍👍👍
WE ARE THE PIMLICANS WE ARE THE PIMLICANS
Where is your passport?
A lot of the Council flats there would be sold off to private now .
A lot of the flats given to people that have been in the country 5 minutes.
I'd be surprised if theyre 50% English occupied.
Always puzzles me how foreigners have access to British social housing!
Anybody know the name of the pub he was in, and if it's still there?
Most of those old pubs are still there. I dont know the name but I think it's on Lupus street, either near the station or opposite the school.
It was called The Pimlico Tram. Nice Pool area - in 1975. The name changed. I think it is still going and called 'The Cask'
No, Lee. Just off Vauxhall Bridge Road, on the north edge of the estate.
Devonshire Arms is gone, along with most other pubs. The place is now a ghost town.
Looks like the lord high admiral to me
Opening credits and themes used to be so much better
The blandness of 1950's/1960's architecture on full view. Replacing "slums", i.e. Victorian houses that had deteriorated but could have easily been restored but that was the agenda of those times. Now people pay millions to live in a 19th c terrace house in the area but not in those dated estates.
No they couldn't easily have been restored. Most of the streets leading down to the Thames where Churchill Gardens was built were full of lower quality houses than those North of Lupus Street. The whole of Pimlico had also suffered very heavy bombing.
The first area 'gentrified' was the Denbigh Triangle. The surviving houses there were worth restoring but before the work started I played on bombsites there.
We moved on to Churchill Gardens in 1962. We lived in one of the two 'posh' terraces but all my friends lived in the flats and everyone loved the place. Since then I've seen the insides of a lot of earlier LCC flats and there is no comparison. Very glad I grew up there.
@@peterroberts6061 I don't know Pimlico well at all as I live in Hertfordshire but my great-grandmother was living at 142, Lillington Street at the time of her death in 1904. I understand that the street was virtually obliterated on the 8th March 1941 by a high explosive German bomb in WWII, so there was little chance 'restoring' those houses. I intend to visit the area soon to view any surviving pre-1900 buildings. I must say that I enjoyed reading your reply to Paul Lewis's rather uninformed comment.
Many terraces that survive from that era throughout the country remain unsaleable; only immigrants want them. You can’t make a silk purse out of the proverbial sow’s ear.
The past, as ever, remains a fanciful refuge for people that didn’t have to live there.
@@markofsaltburn h
How people lived in the past has nothing to do with reusing/renovating for contemporary living instead of wasteful destruction. Restored terraces throughout the country have proved to be far preferable to 60’s and 70’s horrors that just breed crime.
Pimlico was gonna be a ghetto? I'd kill to live there. Not on those estates though. The rich people built those estates thinking they'd be some kind of utopia.
churchill has become like most council estates now full of immigrants who dont care about the place and looks run down same with lupus st all awful shops
Full of immigrants? Wouldn’t say that most of my friends that live in Churchill are white British
JEHOVAH IS PATIENT MERCIFUL THATS WHY THE FOUR ANGELS HOLD TIGHT THE SACRED SECRETS OF THE SPIRIT OF JEHOVAH LOOK AT YOUR SOULS FOR TOUCHING MY PC YOUR BURNS FROM THE ANGEL OF GOD WILL BE RADIATION
Take your meds.
The snobbery of architecture created these eyesores...socialism at it's worst...you can dress it up with fancy narrative but they were simply awful projects
What makes you say that? As in why do you think so? Interested in your opinion
They were built as decent homes for people by the council and those who lived and still live in them loved them. Me included. Great way to show your ignorance and prejudice.
Westminster City Council is known for a lot of things but I’m not sure ‘socialism’ is one of them.
Insalubrious slums and the wreckage of world war set the stage for socialist policies.
Socialism has long been a vague term. Otto von Bismark was labelled a socialist by his critics, lol.
The statist, top-down approach of Labour was arguably closer to corporatism. Necessary, in my opinion, but didn't to my knowledge, encourage grass-roots participation.
THE KEYS OF JEHOVAH OPENINGS THROUGH JEHOVAHS ACTIVE FORCE ONCE CARRIED IN ITS POWER IF YOU TOUCH ITS NOT LIKE THE ARK ITS THE REALITY