Leveled lists are assigned to chests and bosses, sometimes using a template and sometimes specifically. Each LL has specific items available and a max loot count value. So, yes, there are absolutely patterns. Most LL are templates though, grouped by boss type. Spacers have one, pirates another, etc. Further, what can drop and what quality is constrained by system/boss level. So just because a boss LL has access to a specific weapon, doesn't mean you'll always find it. That's why higher base dmg weapons drop more in higher systems.
I believe the loot roll for mobs is based on where the dead body dies or comes to rest somehow... I've oddly been able to get the same exact loot multiple times if the kill forces the dying mob into a particular space in the corner each time... But if killed the mob with a slightly different hit forcing the dead body into a slightly different position, it will not roll the same loot at all... Same save to start.
Right now I am on NG12 and playing on XBox. From watching your videos and other steamers is what you see and get will not be the same for me. Whatever path I am down with Bethesda just does not change. From the original story to where I am now the same group of Class C ships spawn on a planet for me. That can be a Level 1 planet to a 75, does not make a difference. I always have gotten Claymore 1-3, Vista's 1 -3 both Freestar and UC, Wight 1-3 along with the Hyena version and Prophecy 1-3 (although this one is very rare). Other players might get a Voyager version or a Reef. I have about 75 hours into NG12 now just taking my time, no rush, and the elusive weapon for me has been Legendary Hard Target. Only seen 1 and that has the crappy Space Adept perk. This is doing bounties daily and faarming Level 60 planets up to 75. Mag weapons have been the most popular. Just has been no consistency for me on things this time around as far as weapons go.
I'm also on console and I agree. Pre latest patch it seemed like I always got the same swan pool of landing ships, no matter the planet/moon/system. My weapon drops are very similar and kind of garbage. I've seen more Ripshanks, Tantos and Rescue Axes than anyone ever needs.
It all depends on your game install. In the locked room inside any deserted listening post, there will be two Advanced AA-99's on any playthrough at any lvl, so at lvl 2 I get an advanced AA-99.
Instigating (target at 100%) - 1-tap = 2x damage, 2-tap = 3x damage, Cornered (Below 10% health) - 1-tap = 1.5x damage, 2-tap = 3x damage. Now, crits and other damage modifiers / armour penetration can scale this up differently, but basically, unless you run really low health AND need 3 shots+ to kill your target, I always prefer instigating for semi-auto weapons so I’m not running around on 9% health. If you’re using an automatic weapon then the math changes, but this is a game, and you play it your way, there is no wrong, just different. This is just a little PSA :)
I keep the legendary Magshear "Revenant" as my close range weapon. It is a titanium build, so it doesn't fill your carry weight. Fully modded it rips enemies apart. Fire it in short bursts to keep it on target.
Same here. Titanium build, extended mag and demoralizing. It's my "shit hits the fan" backup weapon. Looting all the .50 MI ammo I find, I'm at 30k rounds so no fear of running out in a firefight. But I do enjoy more "conventionnal" weapons when I go clear out most facilities. Racking up a nice collection of epic and legendaries, the only gun I have that is still only advanced and still searching for a legendary drop is the Hard Target.
Speaking of Hard Target and the mag size, I found a double mag perk on a Legendary HT. I want to keep it because it has 10 rounds. It has other perks as well, but I don't remember them this morning. Haha.
I've been wondering if how and what you kill an enemy with has any sway on the drop algorithm? I've been getting good drops with an epic poisonous breach. Seen more legendary when I use it.
I've run across this facility, farmed the boss and a couple mini-bosses and NO Hard Target. In fact I have never seen any variant of a Hard Target or a Beowulf anywhere. I'm on console and my drops are awful. If melee weapons were worth a damn, I would be set.
Same. Last couple days I decided to save-scum some bosses just to see what I could get ahold of (character level 79, running very hard difficulty), and I had a Spacer boss on Huygens III (don't recall which facility), and after nearly 2 hours, I had seen one legendary Ripshank, a couple Epic Space Adept Calibrated Krakens, and the rest was all rare basic, or rare Calibrated armor or guns I already have. Not that I'm struggling or not enjoying the game...would be fun to see some gold in my inventory though lol
what's with the hard target, I've seen them from low -400 DMG to 800+ DMG are more, I guess you could say the same about the beowolf I see them for 77 dmg thru the god one that dropped at 4oo+ dmg.
Damage usually varies by quality (common, calibrated, refined, advanced, superior*) and can also be modified by perks. "Cornered" and "Berserker" are huge dmg buffs, but there's also "Shattering" for a 10%ish boost and some enemy type modifiers that won't affect the item card's listed damage
Did anything come of the mention of the list of facilities/most likely drops? I cant find it. New character looki g for a leg adv kodama. Loved it on my last character. Or a leg adv breach, its fun too.
It’s similar in FO’76 but for important items for crafting or recipes. Certain locations have 5 or more of them spread about. Bugthesda in their laziness have probably taken this way of the game system working & applied it to Starfield.
Never seen that POI dropping any specific loot, in fact since entering NG10 at Xmas I have not had a single hard target with more than one stat same goes for Inflictor and Magsniper. Regarding the bugged weapon rack, it's not bugged on any of my games. The only bugged weapon racks I have found are at Neon Tactical.
couldn’t find any bounty, hunter armor at that location even with the save scam. finding a superior bounty hunter spacesuit is the hardest part for me right now.
I do think there's a pattern. I've noticed in each playground the game seems to favor dropping one specific weapon on each playthrough. One time i might get 15 kodamas, another time it'll drop 15 hard targets..etc. it varies in each playthrough for me. I'm on n+9
I actually found my legendary hard target , inspired by this post 💪 but it was a raid on an abandoned tower on with pirates total luck. This was on Huygens VIII I respect this Chanel and all the positivity
DeanPo, great video as always! You may have a theory with this but I think we should test the hypothesis a bit more! I have gotten all 4 of the different types at the abandoned UC Base and spacers, Pirate and Va'Ruun at the deep mine! I wanted to ask you have you ever gotten the Despondent Assassin legendary old earth hunting rifle from the mini side quest you can get in Aqila City? Does 146 phys damage and has Demoralizing, Pitman and Anti-personnel with high powered and small magazine! Also I came across a ship landing site on Archimedes V-B a UC Vanguard Longsword III just sitting there nobody outside and nobody inside! I was able to just board it and find the pilot seat and take it for my own! Have you ever had that happen to you? It's kind of a crappy ship class A 26 reactor with a 30ly jump! Crew 4 Shield 715 PAR 33 BAL 24 MSL 90 Only 209 cargo space with a 799 Hull but it was free so I took it!
I've raided many He-3 extraction sites, some in the Hyugens system and never got a Hard Target out of it. Plenty of Magpulse, Magshear and Magstorm though. Good for selling, not much for keeping as I already have a legendary for each. Also... why does no one posting any Starfiel videos get the rejuvenation skill? Or at least the auto-medic suit modification?
99% of the time I run cornered weapons, lower the health higher the damage output. I like to challenge myself =]. Good point though, thank you for supporting the channel
❤ ok im with you... I do want to verify some possible factors#1- Does Level matter(Im 123 now)? #2-Does the Enemy Faction matter? just as Varuun= Inflictors, I feel that Spacers = Armor and Pirates = Weapons mainly😅 #3- Which System? which Planets? Does the facility need to be an established POI? or Random or either? #4- Does the Elites Level matter? as in a Pirate Flayer having a better chance then Legend?? No Lie Ive got 32 Days logged however spent just as much Farming🎉
Hey Ozzy, character level would matter for sure but it’s not the end all and be all. I got most of my hard targets at a very low level. Level 75 system for sure matters coz you get better chests and higher level bosses and of course boss types matter. Inflictors only drop from varuun, old earth stuff form spacers and so on.
Hmm - it may depend on target system or planet. I’ve been farming that exact same site in a different system for most of the last 3 days and I haven’t gotten ANY Hard Targets. Got a couple really good advanced coachman, breach, and a really legendary AK, but no hard targets at all 🤷♂️
Been farming this since last night, no Hard Targets whatsoever. Lots of shitty packs and knives/swords. There HAS to be other factors at play. I'm seriously thinking that it is ALSO dependent on the gear you're already wearing. I've found anecdotally that I tend to see more of a certain thing if I've equipped said thing or have it in my inventory. Not sure if that's actually accurate, but seems like it to me.
I js got a got roll hard target from this facility a week ago and I haven’t touched anything else and it’s stayed in my inventory for anything ranged Also “I js recorded a blank screen for 30 minutes” I’ve done something so similar so many times I mean so many you get an hour into a task and realize you have to redo it it suckssss but hey it least what you doing is playing video games!
I'm on level 71 on my new game with the patch. I've hit this site a bunch and no hard target advanced for me. I've had weaker versions drop, but I don't keep them. I have 4 yellow beowolfs that work almost as well. I see you are leveling up the isolation skill. Biggest buff in the game, imo. I leveled mine up this life as fast as I could and I found that I could spend my skill points on quality of life skills like ship building, gun building, chem building, stealth, and engines and par buffs. I was also rocking a 500 plus resistance for armor by level 25 or so. I believe it's a 40% offense buff with 60 points going into resistance on the suit and helmet. Who doesn't love a 2 for 1 deal? Ha😂😂
I noticed one thing with your video. It's so misleading in the words you use. Like, the devs don't want you to know about this and very top secret.. no it's not. If you game and search everywhere, you will eventually come across that. And you figured out nothing. If you played long enough you would've figured that out on day one. Certain locations in the system has a rotation loot pool. For example, one aera it is possible for it to drop only pistols and another rifles. Just today alone I acquired 5 high end pistols. In one hour and at another location 4 high granade launcher. Do maybe you will get an hard target and for someone else another weapon. And BTW it's not Besthesda like you to think... it's people has been saying it. Just like when you say the devs don't want us to know about this location.
Leveled lists are assigned to chests and bosses, sometimes using a template and sometimes specifically. Each LL has specific items available and a max loot count value. So, yes, there are absolutely patterns. Most LL are templates though, grouped by boss type. Spacers have one, pirates another, etc. Further, what can drop and what quality is constrained by system/boss level. So just because a boss LL has access to a specific weapon, doesn't mean you'll always find it. That's why higher base dmg weapons drop more in higher systems.
Dean spent so much time in this game that he figured out the "random" pattern. LOL
I believe the loot roll for mobs is based on where the dead body dies or comes to rest somehow... I've oddly been able to get the same exact loot multiple times if the kill forces the dying mob into a particular space in the corner each time... But if killed the mob with a slightly different hit forcing the dead body into a slightly different position, it will not roll the same loot at all... Same save to start.
Absolutely! I've found the exact same thing.
Right now I am on NG12 and playing on XBox. From watching your videos and other steamers is what you see and get will not be the same for me. Whatever path I am down with Bethesda just does not change. From the original story to where I am now the same group of Class C ships spawn on a planet for me. That can be a Level 1 planet to a 75, does not make a difference. I always have gotten Claymore 1-3, Vista's 1 -3 both Freestar and UC, Wight 1-3 along with the Hyena version and Prophecy 1-3 (although this one is very rare). Other players might get a Voyager version or a Reef. I have about 75 hours into NG12 now just taking my time, no rush, and the elusive weapon for me has been Legendary Hard Target. Only seen 1 and that has the crappy Space Adept perk. This is doing bounties daily and faarming Level 60 planets up to 75. Mag weapons have been the most popular. Just has been no consistency for me on things this time around as far as weapons go.
I'm also on console and I agree. Pre latest patch it seemed like I always got the same swan pool of landing ships, no matter the planet/moon/system. My weapon drops are very similar and kind of garbage. I've seen more Ripshanks, Tantos and Rescue Axes than anyone ever needs.
It all depends on your game install. In the locked room inside any deserted listening post, there will be two Advanced AA-99's on any playthrough at any lvl, so at lvl 2 I get an advanced AA-99.
Instigating (target at 100%) - 1-tap = 2x damage, 2-tap = 3x damage, Cornered (Below 10% health) - 1-tap = 1.5x damage, 2-tap = 3x damage. Now, crits and other damage modifiers / armour penetration can scale this up differently, but basically, unless you run really low health AND need 3 shots+ to kill your target, I always prefer instigating for semi-auto weapons so I’m not running around on 9% health. If you’re using an automatic weapon then the math changes, but this is a game, and you play it your way, there is no wrong, just different. This is just a little PSA :)
I keep the legendary Magshear "Revenant" as my close range weapon. It is a titanium build, so it doesn't fill your carry weight. Fully modded it rips enemies apart. Fire it in short bursts to keep it on target.
Same here. Titanium build, extended mag and demoralizing. It's my "shit hits the fan" backup weapon. Looting all the .50 MI ammo I find, I'm at 30k rounds so no fear of running out in a firefight.
But I do enjoy more "conventionnal" weapons when I go clear out most facilities. Racking up a nice collection of epic and legendaries, the only gun I have that is still only advanced and still searching for a legendary drop is the Hard Target.
Speaking of Hard Target and the mag size, I found a double mag perk on a Legendary HT. I want to keep it because it has 10 rounds. It has other perks as well, but I don't remember them this morning. Haha.
The other perk was Rapid.
I've been wondering if how and what you kill an enemy with has any sway on the drop algorithm? I've been getting good drops with an epic poisonous breach. Seen more legendary when I use it.
Next time boost to the top of the tallest tower at that Rekay Station. There is a chest with leveled loot.
I've run across this facility, farmed the boss and a couple mini-bosses and NO Hard Target. In fact I have never seen any variant of a Hard Target or a Beowulf anywhere. I'm on console and my drops are awful. If melee weapons were worth a damn, I would be set.
Same. Last couple days I decided to save-scum some bosses just to see what I could get ahold of (character level 79, running very hard difficulty), and I had a Spacer boss on Huygens III (don't recall which facility), and after nearly 2 hours, I had seen one legendary Ripshank, a couple Epic Space Adept Calibrated Krakens, and the rest was all rare basic, or rare Calibrated armor or guns I already have.
Not that I'm struggling or not enjoying the game...would be fun to see some gold in my inventory though lol
what's with the hard target, I've seen them from low -400 DMG to 800+ DMG are more, I guess you could say the same about the beowolf I see them for 77 dmg thru the god one that dropped at 4oo+ dmg.
Damage usually varies by quality (common, calibrated, refined, advanced, superior*) and can also be modified by perks. "Cornered" and "Berserker" are huge dmg buffs, but there's also "Shattering" for a 10%ish boost and some enemy type modifiers that won't affect the item card's listed damage
Did anything come of the mention of the list of facilities/most likely drops? I cant find it.
New character looki g for a leg adv kodama. Loved it on my last character. Or a leg adv breach, its fun too.
It’s similar in FO’76 but for important items for crafting or recipes. Certain locations have 5 or more of them spread about. Bugthesda in their laziness have probably taken this way of the game system working & applied it to Starfield.
So what is the first facility, label on the map as?
Never seen that POI dropping any specific loot, in fact since entering NG10 at Xmas I have not had a single hard target with more than one stat same goes for Inflictor and Magsniper. Regarding the bugged weapon rack, it's not bugged on any of my games. The only bugged weapon racks I have found are at Neon Tactical.
couldn’t find any bounty, hunter armor at that location even with the save scam. finding a superior bounty hunter spacesuit is the hardest part for me right now.
I do think there's a pattern. I've noticed in each playground the game seems to favor dropping one specific weapon on each playthrough. One time i might get 15 kodamas, another time it'll drop 15 hard targets..etc. it varies in each playthrough for me. I'm on n+9
I watch all your vids, good stuff. Guessing the next major patch/version will make it great.
I actually found my legendary hard target , inspired by this post 💪 but it was a raid on an abandoned tower on with pirates total luck. This was on Huygens VIII I respect this Chanel and all the positivity
Thank you sir, and I appreciate your support 🙏
DeanPo, great video as always! You may have a theory with this but I think we should test the hypothesis a bit more! I have gotten all 4 of the different types at the abandoned UC Base and spacers, Pirate and Va'Ruun at the deep mine!
I wanted to ask you have you ever gotten the Despondent Assassin legendary old earth hunting rifle from the mini side quest you can get in Aqila City? Does 146 phys damage and has Demoralizing, Pitman and Anti-personnel with high powered and small magazine!
Also I came across a ship landing site on Archimedes V-B a UC Vanguard Longsword III just sitting there nobody outside and nobody inside! I was able to just board it and find the pilot seat and take it for my own! Have you ever had that happen to you? It's kind of a crappy ship class A 26 reactor with a 30ly jump! Crew 4 Shield 715 PAR 33 BAL 24 MSL 90
Only 209 cargo space with a 799 Hull but it was free so I took it!
I've raided many He-3 extraction sites, some in the Hyugens system and never got a Hard Target out of it. Plenty of Magpulse, Magshear and Magstorm though. Good for selling, not much for keeping as I already have a legendary for each.
Also... why does no one posting any Starfiel videos get the rejuvenation skill? Or at least the auto-medic suit modification?
99% of the time I run cornered weapons, lower the health higher the damage output. I like to challenge myself =].
Good point though, thank you for supporting the channel
@@deanpogaming you like running the razor's edge 😅
There's a facility where i'm sure to get a "One inch punch" Legendary weapon whenever i go there .
❤ ok im with you... I do want to verify some possible factors#1- Does Level matter(Im 123 now)?
#2-Does the Enemy Faction matter? just as Varuun= Inflictors, I feel that Spacers = Armor and Pirates = Weapons mainly😅
#3- Which System? which Planets? Does the facility need to be an established POI? or Random or either?
#4- Does the Elites Level matter? as in a Pirate Flayer having a better chance then Legend??
No Lie Ive got 32 Days logged however spent just as much Farming🎉
Hey Ozzy, character level would matter for sure but it’s not the end all and be all. I got most of my hard targets at a very low level.
Level 75 system for sure matters coz you get better chests and higher level bosses and of course boss types matter.
Inflictors only drop from varuun, old earth stuff form spacers and so on.
Hmm - it may depend on target system or planet. I’ve been farming that exact same site in a different system for most of the last 3 days and I haven’t gotten ANY Hard Targets. Got a couple really good advanced coachman, breach, and a really legendary AK, but no hard targets at all 🤷♂️
Stick with Huygens, I got like 8 hard targets so far it’s nuts. I got my ak from there as well =]
Lockpicking
Been looking for a nice Hard target, thank you 👍👍👍
I have an outpost on Altair II that has Ecliptics that land on the Deserted Relay Station. ✌️
Is there a way how to get such information in less than 43 minutes?
So Wise , Thank You . Good to know
Been farming this since last night, no Hard Targets whatsoever. Lots of shitty packs and knives/swords. There HAS to be other factors at play. I'm seriously thinking that it is ALSO dependent on the gear you're already wearing. I've found anecdotally that I tend to see more of a certain thing if I've equipped said thing or have it in my inventory. Not sure if that's actually accurate, but seems like it to me.
I couldn't find the name of the facility... Possibly my bad...?
Actually the 1123 pistol is much harder to find it seems. But if all was easy the fun would fade 😂
I want a short barrel so can I use a reflex site and have the weapon for ship boarding. OP? Yes. Doable? No......Bummer.
Wow. You've called it! #DeanPoTheStarfieldSoothsayer
I just want a damn advanced equinox I don't know why one doesn't exist. I've only ever been able to find refined.
Yeah no Equinox, side star etc. few weapons that currently have no advanced designation =[
i tried that hard target many many many times! never got even regular one...
Damn that sucks =\
My graphics card died.I'm living through DeanPo!
Damn hope you get another one soon, meanwhile thank you for your support
@@deanpogaming it will be a long while🥲
I js got a got roll hard target from this facility a week ago and I haven’t touched anything else and it’s stayed in my inventory for anything ranged
Also “I js recorded a blank screen for 30 minutes” I’ve done something so similar so many times I mean so many you get an hour into a task and realize you have to redo it it suckssss but hey it least what you doing is playing video games!
I'm on level 71 on my new game with the patch. I've hit this site a bunch and no hard target advanced for me. I've had weaker versions drop, but I don't keep them. I have 4 yellow beowolfs that work almost as well. I see you are leveling up the isolation skill. Biggest buff in the game, imo. I leveled mine up this life as fast as I could and I found that I could spend my skill points on quality of life skills like ship building, gun building, chem building, stealth, and engines and par buffs. I was also rocking a 500 plus resistance for armor by level 25 or so. I believe it's a 40% offense buff with 60 points going into resistance on the suit and helmet. Who doesn't love a 2 for 1 deal? Ha😂😂
My first leg hard target was a under level 50 spacer at a normally lousy poi. There is still some rng luck involved.
Stop doing cool videos with great loot without telling us what system and planet your on. Please.
Hudgens
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I noticed one thing with your video. It's so misleading in the words you use. Like, the devs don't want you to know about this and very top secret.. no it's not. If you game and search everywhere, you will eventually come across that. And you figured out nothing. If you played long enough you would've figured that out on day one. Certain locations in the system has a rotation loot pool. For example, one aera it is possible for it to drop only pistols and another rifles. Just today alone I acquired 5 high end pistols. In one hour and at another location 4 high granade launcher. Do maybe you will get an hard target and for someone else another weapon. And BTW it's not Besthesda like you to think... it's people has been saying it. Just like when you say the devs don't want us to know about this location.