Was the USSR communist?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ต.ค. 2022
- The Russian Revolution was the greatest event in history, with the working class and poor taking power into their own hands for the first time. In this talk, Keelan Kellegher will speak about the Stalinist degeneration of the USSR that led to its demise.
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If this is original work, this kid is amazing.
It is. There are plenty more like him in Socialist Appeal and the International Marxist tendency too!
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He's a Goddamned Trot, that's what he is.
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Solidarity from England comrade. You carry on the great work of the spartacus league, admired world wide by cadres.
May you rise to a higher level, especially with such great minds within IMT and its leadership.
Its that or the far right currents. Your fighting a historic battle comrade. Your hard work could save lives.
These young socialists are wonderful speakers. I have faith in Socialism.
What a successful lecture, comrade. Greetings from the German Section!
Great presentation comrade.
I don't think it was communist as there was no new plan to eliminate the class relation and also the bureaucracy was degenerative force
Wow
Starts @ 2:22
Interesting. Thanks for this discussion.
We have to able to understand our failures as marxists and work to implement a true workers' state!!
Great stuff!!
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WELL What to say about this lecture. Its just Clear Truthfull and Brilliant.
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I like USSR shirt
I do. Shame he’s blasphemed it’s glorious name and memory 🤬
Funny...its almost like my idea of history is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than his...
Syndicalism is the only way.
"it could not without the spreading of the revolution" but it did spread, there were several more workers' states and some of them are still standing
preach! trots really out here tryna say ussr was "socialism in one country" when the ussr itself was already 15 different countries even before liberating multiple more 🥱
Not until after World War two, and at that point the bureaucracy had already fully consolidated its power. And no, a classless society democratically controlled and planned by workers was not what existed in the USSR.
Do you consider China a workers state? Hilarious....
Stalinists did not believe that the USSR was on its way to communism. Stalin himself kept banging on about the final victory of socialism being when the world revolution is realised. Khrushchevite revisionism is not something that stalinists stand by
The USSR was socialist, not communist.
Please check how socialism is defined by marxist theorists, you sound confused
@@anastasiakypreou2201 That's it, Trot-troll. Socialism always fore-runs communism. Who's confused now?
Stalin would have loved him, but still purged him with everyone else.
someone didn't watch the video.
Trot alert 🚨
Red fash alert ⚠️
The problem is organization, too large of the organism like huge working class can't manage itself and stay in the same class, starts forming ruling working management of the party who gets more then rest of working class. State can't run factory or thousands of factories efficiently like 1 owner, cuz he's interested in profit & state is not, humans are selfish mamals. People start stealing stuff from working place as it was in state run USSR, so huge repression system must be in place to punish. Another thing is invocation. If communism is not in all planet so it's confined in lets say China, Russia land mass, but not all planet, so naturally natural growth limits will be reached of cloaed system & we know while expanding one can lower price at the expense of this growth, but when one reaches natural limits so only way is higher prices. Imagine 1000 factories, shops, malls, rest in a country so to build one more will mean overproduction so must go abroad but you can't go, cuz nobody allows, either war to expand or raise prices. Only way to get new stuff made is from profit. Imagine you manufacture a bike all the time, so after a while nobody will need your bike so everyone will have, how will then industry work? Must make new bike better, newer, so people want to buy. To make new bike factory needs investment, only investment can be done from past profit you got by selling that old bike everyone brought, so to make new one. This is problem in communism, cuz doesn't allow to grow prices as capitalist does. There's plenty more problems in communism that's unsolved & so can't function too large entity as global working class, & lack of knowledge & education too. People are just too stupid to understand economy.
Learn to read and understand Marx Engels Lenin and history too for that matter as your analysis of the Soviet Union dosn't match with any of them. It's always supriced me how the trotskiete retelling of Soviet hostory is so similar to that of the capitalists only difference is that trots make out Trotsky to be a messiah figure even though he was much of an opertunistic buerocrat lusting for power and influence as any one else in the post revolution USSR. At the end of the day it just feels like braindead arguments about transports where nothing matters unless X side wins. And that's not to mention the over exaggerations on historucal figures such as Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky. It was workers that shaped history, not great men, and to say otherwise is an idealogical trap resulted from our current capitalist system.
Please don't bastardize the legacy of the working class for your own political agenda. Your dogmas are not coherent with history and only serves to dilute marxism to the point where liberals can call themselves communists. Communism is not a sect that you join, it's about the things you learn and do.
Your criticism of Stalin is seemingly narrow and does not link to historical balckground. Just look at achievements under Stalin, even pro capitalist Russians acknowledge that
I think Alexander Solzhenitsyn and the millions of Russians imprisoned under the soviet slave state would disagree.
Wasn't real communism.
Lol