It's absolutely incredible that they used a torch to check for gas. It's like saying "I wonder if this unmarked bottle is poison. Let's drink it and find out."
A fun fact about PCA, you can get written up for talking about that tank explosion. A buddy of mine got one just last year (2017). As far as the company is concerned, it never happened. Makes you wonder how many of these companies are still doing the same old things hoping that everyone just forgets...
Forget history and you'll repeat it. We see this time and again with these videos. Companies just don't want to pay out - it must be cheaper to pay compensation and repairs than to actually fix the safety culture.
@@gdwnet yup, cost/benefit analysis. If it's $1 to their benefit to kill people, that's what they'll do! Deregulation is happening right now because "rules cost companies money". Privatize the profits, socialize the costs. And you can bet that any award given the injured workers will be eaten up by hospital, therapy & lawyers costs. Then you'll be taxed on it!
You'd be surprised just how common this method is in the welding industry. I've heard people tell me to use it multiple times when someone has come to me asking for a gas tank fixed. For the record, I've never done it and never intend to do it.
I was a safety manager for a major oil field service company working in Texas, Oklahoma and New Mexico. This was back in the 80's. The sad thing is, these type accidents were just about as common as broken fingers in the industry. My company had strict, supervised policies about hot work, and yet guys would still be caught violating those policies- I was constantly harping on them and conducted many training sessions about how to do this type work safely. I would be walking around out district maintenance shop and get stupid remarks of ridicule from employees for being so insistent on safety measures- But, I never let up. Too many people in other companies were being killed and injured by this type of accident. It is easy to prevent if you just take the time to set up precautions and to think about it for a few minutes. It does not have to happen. I was laid off a few years into this job because of an economic slump in the industry- The first people who were let go were the safety people.
@@ichaukan ;) yep rebranding... I've done internet searches for "rebranded" companies new name years after a major catastrophe... some companies readily announce that they have an old name right on their website. But other companies somehow seemingly are able to erase all traces of any connection to the old company that nearly "blew up the whole town".... it's a testament to the marketing clean up crews. I always wonder about the top managements discussions on how to go about erasing the past - to bury it as deep as possible....
Idc how long you been in the biz, at 20 you should be an apprentice under an experienced worker. 20 years old mean MAX 4 years experience, and contract worker suggests he was alone with no immediate superiors. Recipe for disaster
This comment pissed some people off. Calm down morons!! I'm a fucking pipe fitter I've been doing it since I was 18. 20 years old is still pretty fucking young. Most people who are working in these jobs don't do it because its the most amazing and fun job in the world. They do it cause it pays good and 20 years old is old enough to have some experience but fuck you if you think some 20 year old kid planned on giving his life up for this job. That wasn't no 20 year old kids passion. That was a kid trying to get by who got killed
Hazard analysis ain’t no joke...worked in the metals industry for 10 years...stuff can go sideways in a split second. Training your people is critical so they can say no to working in these conditions and not blindly following orders.
@@jbthestoner5504 If he was a bad guy his wife wouldn't have taken upon herself to speak in this video, your comment is rude and unnecessary. I'd go with your "now i kinda feel like a dick" feeling and think before you type next time.
"Our flammable vapor detection protocol is to stick a lit oxyacetylene torch into the tank we need to check. If the tank doesn't explode, it's safe to work on it." Three questions: Q1: When did nitrogen get expensive? If they would have simply purged the whole tank farm with nitrogen before doing the hot work, no accident could have happened. (Of course, knowing these guys' proclivity for reckless behavior they probably would have gotten in the tank to hold the fitting from the other side, and managed to appear in another CSB video at the same time.) Q2: Just how long has the crack epidemic been going on anyway? and... Q3: Did they throw the person who came up with this testing method in jail for terminal stupidity, and if not why not?
A1: purging the entire tank 1 wouldn't prevent the accident. Tank one was connected to tank 2, which was full of hydrocarbon, and it was vapor from tank 2 that actually caused the accident
@@fitrianhidayat purging would have worked... but it would been engineered via permitting. I.e. pressurization, steam and inert gases to hold back other gases. This processes are used successfully
Industrial Maintenance Worker is in the top 10 for injury and death per capita on OSHAs lists. Lots of work that doesn't have any standard work procedure, stuck rusted bolts etc etc. Been doing it for nearly 20 years and had some close calls for sure
Check fittings of your gear too.... On my ship one of our Sailors was walking through a Passageway turning on his Gas Analyzer to check a confined space for work and it went off on next to our Galley.... Apparently a fitting for a Oxy Cetaline (cant spell) torch used for hot work that had been there for DAYS had been leaking and filling that heavily trafficked passageway slowly and NO ONE KNEW.... It was two days before we allowed hot work onboard again and every fitting on base in Yokosuka had to be re checked and entire new rules written. THANK NEPTUNE (or whoever you chose to pray to) these new rules were not written in blood becose they very nearly were.
This was a really hard one. From how the guy that got burnt was the only survivor, to the unaccounted for Acid victim to the family that lost a father and husband.
I don't want to make light of anybody dying. I would like to point out the use of this ladder is basically a pre-accident indicator. If you see a ladder being used like this those people are not going to live very long. I meant usually die in such a spectacular fashion, but they're definitely not going to live very long. Remember the survival rate of an 11 foot fall onto a hard surface is only 50%.
Once in college I was working on someone's gutters and my ladder blew over in the wind. I jumped off a first story roof (onto grass) and rolled when I hit the ground, no injuries. I haven't really thought about this incident much... how dangerous was this in hindsight?
@@saltrocklamp199 you fell on grass and you rolled so it was innocuous. If you fell on concrete or gravel your ass doesn’t bounce it squashes like pumpkin
Poor guy in the Delaware accident was literally melted. My hat is off to those who work in these industries. I don't even like driving by these factories, much less work at one.
I wonder what happens when you hold a welding torch into a large container filled with flammable vapour. Nothing good I imagine. How is this a testing procedure considered viable by a creature that remotely classifies itself a mammal?
+MainsOnTheOhmsRange That reminds me of that photo where someone, I'm guessing a Mexican man (don't get me wrong here, we're all human) had a blue/green truck propped up with wooden planks *and* appeared to be arc welding the gas tank. Do you know the photo I'm talking about...? www.pinterest.com/pin/316870523757009575/
A horse is a mammal, how do they operate the torch, with no thumbs? LOL! What in the hell does being a mammal have to do with anything??? Do you hire whales to do your roofing? Porcupines to repaint your house? 8 years later, this is still ridiculous...
75 surgeries..... That first guy is super lucky his face was able to be reconstructed and look quite good. Too bad accidents happen, but with education if more folks can stop and examine the dangers hopefully some more lives and pain can be saved.
These accidents continue to happen because managers and supervisors aren't held accountable after an accident occurs. If they know there's a potential jail sentence connected to any accident they'll think twice about not checking properly for dangerous hazards before signing off on work tasks.
I think companies use contractors so they can't be sued,...It's the contractors fault. I think when a contractor takes too long, or slows down to be safe, a question arises, "What's taking you so long, next time we'll get another contractor who can get the job done".
4:45 the explosion was bad enough that it just seems to picky to point out the darwin-awardable "ladder bridge" setup he's standing on. Did at least put a harness on....
A year ago shortly after I made full time security at my job, myself and my coworker were watching a group of our engineers (Casino) doing some work high above the pool area. They didn't use scaffolding, instead they jury-rigged ladders together to create a platform they could stand on and we were getting multiple complaints from guests about how unsafe it looked. We went to take a look, but my coworker said "it is fine, they are professionals after all," and let it go. Me however I was worried (I had done that kind of work before, so I already knew how unsafe that was) and mentioned it to my boss, much to the anger of my coworker who felt I was being to paranoid. Suffice it to say, it proved to be the right thing. Our Director of Risk Management was on property doing a tour of some of the renovations when my boss told her about the potentially unsafe conditions, she went out there and despite me being inside at the time and up on the second floor, you could hear him riping the engineers a new one. It took those three idiots almost forty minutes to get off of their little makeshift ladder scaffold. Two ended up getting fired for unsafe work conditions, while the other (who was a supervisor) was removed from his position. Got quite a bit of hell from my coworkers though for being a 'snitch', since it apparently that was 'standard procedure' since putting up scaffolding would take up to a couple hours and be a 'waste of time' but as far as I am concerned, if any of our guests had recorded it (which I'm sure some did) and OSHA or someone else found out about it before we dealt with it, we'd have faced some pretty stiff fines. One thing people don't understand about our work as security in the casino industry, is that on some properties, we are also responsible for monitoring safe work conditions (because of how much of a presence we typically have, we usually have one safety inspector on property are all times, but he is just one person. For a security shift, well I'm not allowed to say how many we have on shift, but it's enough to cover the property and monitor what is going on) To bad, I liked that job to (damn covid)
Considering most of these were caused by the sun warming stuff through the day ... these vapour detectors should be permanently 'ON' and attached to nearby surfaces and areas close to the work. That said ... most of these jobs were SO dangerous no matter what, and another method of cutting should have been insisted upon.
I work for a safety company where we do training for companies in the industrial work environment. We have a facebook page where we like to share information and videos related to workplace safety. I just wanted to ask if it is ok that we share this video on our facebook page for people to watch and keep safe when performing, or working near hot work activities.
+Scott Stalmack Since the CSB is a Federal government agency, and these works are not classified for the protection of the country, it is public domain, and can be shared and used freely.
+Scott Stalmack Also, it's ALWAYS legal to share any video by a link or by embedding, no matter who made it. You just can't download and re-upload it, or claim you made it. Kudos to you and your company for working to improve safety!
Your tax dollars went to the production of this video, you have every right to show it to whoever you want. It’s a very good use of our federal resources I believe.
Anytime you see anybody using a ladder like the one that was used in this video you know there's going to be an accident. Usually not such a spectacular accident but you know there's going to be an accident.
I feel so bad for all those accidents yet I'm kinda addicted to this series. Am I a bad person because I love seeing safety guidlines being broken? Please explain
Upper management and executives of companies like this should be required to pay for and forced to attend every funeral for workers they kill through cutting costs on safety training and equipment.
I recently was tasked with replacing a damaged empty fuel tank on a semi truck The tank bands were corroded and wouldnt come loose even with an impact wrench The customer was impatient and my superior told me to "simply grind through the bands" I told him that im not going to grind on a container filled with a perfect gas/fuel mix and if the customer needed his truck so bad he should learn to drive properly. Guys dont die because of other peoples stupidity impatience and greed you can get another job but you cant get another life
We were contracted to demolish a 30ft dia. storage tank. Checked for vapors and confined space regulations, disconnected all feed and drain lines . Without a problem had cut up the entire thing except the floor. As soon as we started on the floor an explosion lifted the entire tank floor nearly a foot, including anyone standing on it. Later discovered that product had leaked through small rust holes in the floor and pooled under the floor. No one was hurt but, a few of the guys had to go home and change their pants. Close call, tought us never consider a job as "got it in the bag" .
My company does a lot of confined space and hot work. Continuous gas monitoring. All adjacent tanks are disconnected, blocked and locked out. Using a torch to check for explosive gas is beyond dumb.
i would genuinely love to see this hotwork safety video re-done with modern animations. also, these are all so awful results of so many innocent mistakes. ♥
There is a common theme in some of these flammable vapor disasters whether or not they are using a gas detector: They check in the morning when they get there and as the day warms the gas leaks and seeks an ignition point. Is that part of the training, if they get any?
The insidious sequence of events is most telling. Certainly, some of the incidents were straightforward, but decomposing matter found in most food processing plant water treatment systems and microbes producing hydrogen from metabolizing organic matter demonstrates a more thorough hot work permit system than many in the 'nontraditional' flammable arena use. It also shows that Management of Change is substantially more important in the non-CFR1910.119 PSM industries recognize.
@drbillcorcoran - CSB is only in existence under sufferance from OSHA. There is major political turf battling over them - even though they provide technical expertise which OSHA lacks...
The fact that all of these could have been avoided with proper training and equipment. These people could have returned home but because of lack of training and proper equipment they can never see there families again. I also live in Mississippi and my grandmother remembered the story from the news
It seems like such an easy and cheap task to just place a small personal flammable gas detector near anywhere hot work is taking place. Still baffles me why companies don't require this practice.
It is astounding how many of these, if you'll forgive the phrase, boil down to temperature changes causing vapor. Especially because it's not as if these were indoors, and faulty/improperly calibrated equipment caused unexpected heat. It was the sun. That thing that is there in some capacity everyday. How would the individuals in charge of the project not *think* ?? Adding additionally, I've just started going to school for mechanical engineering, but I am now considering a focus in safety, whatever that path might be.
I think gas monitor should be placed in strategic locations around any hot work and active during the entire process the sound of an alarm if there is flammable gas detected even if it is not explosive level
20 year old kids can barely pick their nose. AGAIN, they took the lowest price to save the most money. Csb makes a good video and that's the end of it and nothing changes. Good job guys.
Increase the quality of training is to expensive until stuff like this happens. Safety is number 1 then productivity, you are no good to a company dead. People get work done much faster when they are sure they are safe. In the examples shown in this video, those people were probably taught to press on when they are unsure as usually there is nothing wrong but with proper training I'm sure they would have learned to respect flammable materials at all times and from all sources and then proceed.
1:18 if I’m not wrong, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this man on tiktok talking about how he used to be so ashamed to eat around other people bc of how he looked ): thankfully the comments are overwhelmingly positive and he doesn’t seem to scared anymore
As a Canadian in SE Sask we fortunately haven't to many incidents from hot work in oilfields we are pretty strict on Oilfield safety with employment termination if employees don't want to apply or comply with the life saving safety protocol that is there for everyone safety since 05 when I moved down here there has not been any H2S poisoning accident gladly say there have been sadly to say a few fetal service rig accident of service tipping over in Saskatchewan winds they were called free standing rigs but it set a new safety precedence which gladly to report wind hazards safety procedures high winds over 50km hr no service rig hands to work we also have the right refuse dangerous work without job loss.
Feel so sorry for john, hope that company were fined and had to pay compensation to john. Telling him it was a water pump, how could they not know what it was used for.
I have worked for number of chemical companies in the UK after leaving school, the majority of them had strong safety rules concerning any maintenance work and indeed BEFORE any repairs or examination work was carried out, strict safety regulations were always applied in those early days,1950's, a few years later as BIGGer corporations took over the small plants where I had worked, regulations were considered a nuisance and worse still, jobs were being carried out by unqualified or inexperienced individuals on a 'Quick in and out' style', Time is money, I saw the problem arising, it seems that Major Corporations are dictated by Cash Flow/Profits, therefore it becomes a habit to make maintenance or repairs on an 'AS NEEDED' basis, and find someone...anyone, who'll do the repairs at the lowest price was the new Normal.Many American corporations,Union Carbide and Bhopal for instance, The firm in ITALY which exposed a whole town to DIOXIN in the 70's Many Oil Companies and the very large American corporations are operated in this manner. THis is what occurs when MONEY becomes the PRIME product, rather than the actual manufactured product which is surely more important especially when the default corporation can hire the legal equivalent of there own Philosophy,Samrt Legal representatives whi are able to turn disasters into FAULTS committed by the offending party, i.e the worker/s rather than the Corporation Executives. The case of Union Carbine and Bhopal is a particularly interesting example to read up.
These type of videos usually costs hundreds, or thousands of dollars for companies to buy even single vhs tapes for 10 min video seminars. And we get it for free.
"I need to check if this potentially lethal tank is filled with flammable gas, let me throw a torch in there" A human thought of this as ok. A human with (I assume) a human brain. God help us.
So let me get this straight, they test for an explosive atmosphere by sticking a lit torch into that atmosphere? Well, I guess if it turns out to be not safe it won't really matter to them at that point anyway. For some reason that reminds me of way back in the day when they would attempt to drown a women to determine whether or not she was a witch.....🤔 Edit- "What? She drowned? Guess that means she wasn't a witch after all. Oh well, she's dead now, won't matter anyway". "What? It blew up and killed Jim? Guess it wasn't safe after all. Oops.... Oh well, he's dead now, guess it doesn't matter either way...".
7:50 "ineffective monitoring are just as dangerous as no monitoring at all" wrong, ineffective monitoring is far worse because it provides a false sense of security and makes people more reckless. Tell them "hey, watch out, I don't know if there's dangerous gas, there MIGHT be dangerous gas"... how do you think the person would react?
Refrigeration systems is another hot work hazard. Systems having an inert refrigerant replaced with a flammable one, without getting the labelling updated.
moral of this story: choose the right tool for the job at hand.... using tools that generate hot sparks around potentially flammable substances are sure fire recipe for disaster. applied reasoning in these featured tragedies: "hmmm let's check how full the gas tank is with a lit match..."
It's absolutely incredible that they used a torch to check for gas. It's like saying "I wonder if this unmarked bottle is poison. Let's drink it and find out."
doggonemess no offense, but this is exactly what the human thought process does.
@@sddragon28 Good point.
Like Alice in Wonderland
@@sddragon28 we are as a species far more fallible than we generally present to ourselves.
The ignorance
A fun fact about PCA, you can get written up for talking about that tank explosion. A buddy of mine got one just last year (2017). As far as the company is concerned, it never happened. Makes you wonder how many of these companies are still doing the same old things hoping that everyone just forgets...
That is probably the most disgusting thing I've heard in a while.
Forget history and you'll repeat it. We see this time and again with these videos. Companies just don't want to pay out - it must be cheaper to pay compensation and repairs than to actually fix the safety culture.
@@gdwnet yup, cost/benefit analysis. If it's $1 to their benefit to kill people, that's what they'll do! Deregulation is happening right now because "rules cost companies money". Privatize the profits, socialize the costs. And you can bet that any award given the injured workers will be eaten up by hospital, therapy & lawyers costs. Then you'll be taxed on it!
That’s fucked
They won't change until the CEOs are convicted of manslaughter and criminal negligence on every count.
Damn when Clyde’s wife was talking it shot me right in the feels. I sincerely hope his wife and kids are doing very well
Holding a lit torch to detect flammable vapors - one step above “hold my beer and watch this shit”.
Could you imagine working for a company like this? Filled with morons...I've told people simply to fuck off when I saw or told to do stupid shit...
Underrated.
you can hold the torch with one hand, so you got the other hand free for the beer. no need for someone else to hold it.
You'd be surprised just how common this method is in the welding industry. I've heard people tell me to use it multiple times when someone has come to me asking for a gas tank fixed. For the record, I've never done it and never intend to do it.
"If it doesn't blow up then you are good"
I like the fact that they name the companies that are involved.
I'm pretty sure there are laws in place that require them to.
Nah, if its real serious the company is sold, name is changed, they hide it pretty fast
I was a safety manager for a major oil field service company working in Texas, Oklahoma and New Mexico. This was back in the 80's. The sad thing is, these type accidents were just about as common as broken fingers in the industry. My company had strict, supervised policies about hot work, and yet guys would still be caught violating those policies- I was constantly harping on them and conducted many training sessions about how to do this type work safely. I would be walking around out district maintenance shop and get stupid remarks of ridicule from employees for being so insistent on safety measures- But, I never let up. Too many people in other companies were being killed and injured by this type of accident. It is easy to prevent if you just take the time to set up precautions and to think about it for a few minutes. It does not have to happen. I was laid off a few years into this job because of an economic slump in the industry- The first people who were let go were the safety people.
@@michaelmccarthy4615 That's known as "Rebranding".
@@ichaukan ;) yep rebranding...
I've done internet searches for "rebranded" companies new name years after a major catastrophe... some companies readily announce that they have an old name right on their website. But other companies somehow seemingly are able to erase all traces of any connection to the old company that nearly "blew up the whole town".... it's a testament to the marketing clean up crews. I always wonder about the top managements discussions on how to go about erasing the past - to bury it as deep as possible....
When someone says “20 year old contract worker” remember that means “some young kid just trying to get by”
...or an older guy trying to take care of his family.
Also meaning unexperienced or low experienced.
Idc how long you been in the biz, at 20 you should be an apprentice under an experienced worker. 20 years old mean MAX 4 years experience, and contract worker suggests he was alone with no immediate superiors. Recipe for disaster
This comment pissed some people off. Calm down morons!! I'm a fucking pipe fitter I've been doing it since I was 18. 20 years old is still pretty fucking young. Most people who are working in these jobs don't do it because its the most amazing and fun job in the world. They do it cause it pays good and 20 years old is old enough to have some experience but fuck you if you think some 20 year old kid planned on giving his life up for this job. That wasn't no 20 year old kids passion. That was a kid trying to get by who got killed
@@Alongfortheride693 He trusted management who are usually sitting on their thumbs.
Hazard analysis ain’t no joke...worked in the metals industry for 10 years...stuff can go sideways in a split second. Training your people is critical so they can say no to working in these conditions and not blindly following orders.
My Dad worked in a foundry 40 years ago. There were regular deaths. One time an Indian man died on the toilet for some reason.
Educating the "cannon fodder" class is not in the interests of the elites, ergo, won't happen.
Clyde Jones looked like a real nice guy. Sad story.
his poor wife choking up almost made me cry. so sad. and infuriating
I shed a few tears for clyde when his wife was saying his last words to her. Human life is so precious
Yeah that was heart wrenchingly sad...
@@jbthestoner5504 If he was a bad guy his wife wouldn't have taken upon herself to speak in this video, your comment is rude and unnecessary.
I'd go with your "now i kinda feel like a dick" feeling and think before you type next time.
@@Supatsu yeah I was wrong, ima just delete that
"Repairing a catwalk in the sulfuric acid tank farm"
welp that sounds safe
This one chilled me to the bone. The worker's body was never found presumably because he dissolved in acid? Jesus fucking Christ.
Hopefully it was the explosion that got him then the acid just dissolved what was left.
Sounds like the Joker's origin story
@@squirt.mcgirt maybe he turned into the joker
@@squirt.mcgirt same here, i had to take it in for a second before i could continue watching
"Our flammable vapor detection protocol is to stick a lit oxyacetylene torch into the tank we need to check. If the tank doesn't explode, it's safe to work on it."
Three questions:
Q1: When did nitrogen get expensive? If they would have simply purged the whole tank farm with nitrogen before doing the hot work, no accident could have happened. (Of course, knowing these guys' proclivity for reckless behavior they probably would have gotten in the tank to hold the fitting from the other side, and managed to appear in another CSB video at the same time.)
Q2: Just how long has the crack epidemic been going on anyway?
and...
Q3: Did they throw the person who came up with this testing method in jail for terminal stupidity, and if not why not?
Absolutely, positively incredible. Who supervises these people?
A1: Don't bring no no big science words to the tank fields, y'all.
A2: Meth.
A3: Freedom.
Think I covered everything.
A1: purging the entire tank 1 wouldn't prevent the accident. Tank one was connected to tank 2, which was full of hydrocarbon, and it was vapor from tank 2 that actually caused the accident
@@fitrianhidayat purging would have worked... but it would been engineered via permitting. I.e. pressurization, steam and inert gases to hold back other gases. This processes are used successfully
Not sure about #1 or #3, but the crack epidemic, at least in the US, started in the early 1980’s.
A each story starts with “maintenance department was doing...”. Note to self, don’t work in the a
Maintenance department for any gas plant.
That’s where the money is because it’s constant work year round.
Industrial Maintenance Worker is in the top 10 for injury and death per capita on OSHAs lists. Lots of work that doesn't have any standard work procedure, stuck rusted bolts etc etc. Been doing it for nearly 20 years and had some close calls for sure
Did you really expect it to start in HR? Maybe the break room?
I'm afraid of torches now and welding
Check fittings of your gear too.... On my ship one of our Sailors was walking through a Passageway turning on his Gas Analyzer to check a confined space for work and it went off on next to our Galley.... Apparently a fitting for a Oxy Cetaline (cant spell) torch used for hot work that had been there for DAYS had been leaking and filling that heavily trafficked passageway slowly and NO ONE KNEW.... It was two days before we allowed hot work onboard again and every fitting on base in Yokosuka had to be re checked and entire new rules written. THANK NEPTUNE (or whoever you chose to pray to) these new rules were not written in blood becose they very nearly were.
Thanks USCSB....I also work in refinery conducting many hotwork on site ..but ur safety tips open my eyes..thank you USCSB team.
Hope you're staying safe man!
Are They train freshers about safety
This was a really hard one. From how the guy that got burnt was the only survivor, to the unaccounted for Acid victim to the family that lost a father and husband.
@Corey Thanks other Corey!
I don't want to make light of anybody dying.
I would like to point out the use of this ladder is basically a pre-accident indicator.
If you see a ladder being used like this those people are not going to live very long.
I meant usually die in such a spectacular fashion, but they're definitely not going to live very long.
Remember the survival rate of an 11 foot fall onto a hard surface is only 50%.
Build the scaffolding!! A 4' fall can kill you. It may sound silly to someone that hasn't fallen. The movies are the movies.
I fell 12 feet once when i was 9 yo. I landed on my right side and broke my elbow. I was lucky that it was only that
Once in college I was working on someone's gutters and my ladder blew over in the wind. I jumped off a first story roof (onto grass) and rolled when I hit the ground, no injuries. I haven't really thought about this incident much... how dangerous was this in hindsight?
@@saltrocklamp199 you fell on grass and you rolled so it was innocuous. If you fell on concrete or gravel your ass doesn’t bounce it squashes like pumpkin
@@juicebox22a Any fall can kill you. A bad stumble, hit your head, and it might be the end. Far as I'm concerned, there's no "little" accidents.
Poor guy in the Delaware accident was literally melted. My hat is off to those who work in these industries. I don't even like driving by these factories, much less work at one.
Boss: "please use this torch near this tank containing highly flammable gas"
Me: *runs away*
Me: "Sure, boss. Just stand here right next to me and watch. Oh, you don't want to do that?"
OK boss...gentlemens FIRST!
Why tf did they test the tank by putting a flame in....
Hey let's light this bomb to test if its a bomb...
Yeah, I'd probably do the same.
i'm fired?
from all of the flammable gas in there?
Companies subcontract the work. The subcontractor assumes a lot of the risk that's why they are hired in the 1st place.
Have done industrial temp work, can confirm.
As heartbreaking as some of these stories are, I hope they are a valuable lesson, and hats off to the high quality of these videos.
Checking for flammable vapors with an acetylene torch is the most southern thing I’ve ever heard of.
I wonder what happens when you hold a welding torch into a large container filled with flammable vapour. Nothing good I imagine. How is this a testing procedure considered viable by a creature that remotely classifies itself a mammal?
+MainsOnTheOhmsRange That reminds me of that photo where someone, I'm guessing a Mexican man (don't get me wrong here, we're all human) had a blue/green truck propped up with wooden planks *and* appeared to be arc welding the gas tank. Do you know the photo I'm talking about...?
www.pinterest.com/pin/316870523757009575/
MainsOnTheOhmsRange I can’t believe that they said that it was a water pump
They can be mammals, but there is no homosapiens.
A horse is a mammal, how do they operate the torch, with no thumbs? LOL! What in the hell does being a mammal have to do with anything??? Do you hire whales to do your roofing?
Porcupines to repaint your house?
8 years later, this is still ridiculous...
75 surgeries..... That first guy is super lucky his face was able to be reconstructed and look quite good. Too bad accidents happen, but with education if more folks can stop and examine the dangers hopefully some more lives and pain can be saved.
Is things like this accidents ???
Calling it an accident is more like starting to decide possible ways of excusing the catastrophe.
These accidents continue to happen because managers and supervisors aren't held accountable after an accident occurs. If they know there's a potential jail sentence connected to any accident they'll think twice about not checking properly for dangerous hazards before signing off on work tasks.
An outstanding series of important presentations. You folks do GREAT work.
Rest in Peace Mister Jones. And all those lost in these disasters.
This one made me cry. I was genuinely moved by this video in particular.
I think companies use contractors so they can't be sued,...It's the contractors fault. I think when a contractor takes too long, or slows down to be safe, a question arises, "What's taking you so long, next time we'll get another contractor who can get the job done".
Rip Clyde Jones. I’m really boutta cry from a instructional safety video
"Hey we have to check if we can weld"
"Alright let's try lighting it on fire"
"Good idea"
those sniffers should be mounted on the tanks in several locations and plugged into a standalone alarm system
Not a bad idea, actually.
That would make too much sense
7:20 tears on my end. R.i.p.
4:45 the explosion was bad enough that it just seems to picky to point out the darwin-awardable "ladder bridge" setup he's standing on. Did at least put a harness on....
The only guy with a harness was the only one to survive. He was on the ladder. Safest place?
No shit. Thought the same thing. Shows the complete lack of safety culture.
A year ago shortly after I made full time security at my job, myself and my coworker were watching a group of our engineers (Casino) doing some work high above the pool area. They didn't use scaffolding, instead they jury-rigged ladders together to create a platform they could stand on and we were getting multiple complaints from guests about how unsafe it looked.
We went to take a look, but my coworker said "it is fine, they are professionals after all," and let it go. Me however I was worried (I had done that kind of work before, so I already knew how unsafe that was) and mentioned it to my boss, much to the anger of my coworker who felt I was being to paranoid.
Suffice it to say, it proved to be the right thing. Our Director of Risk Management was on property doing a tour of some of the renovations when my boss told her about the potentially unsafe conditions, she went out there and despite me being inside at the time and up on the second floor, you could hear him riping the engineers a new one. It took those three idiots almost forty minutes to get off of their little makeshift ladder scaffold. Two ended up getting fired for unsafe work conditions, while the other (who was a supervisor) was removed from his position.
Got quite a bit of hell from my coworkers though for being a 'snitch', since it apparently that was 'standard procedure' since putting up scaffolding would take up to a couple hours and be a 'waste of time' but as far as I am concerned, if any of our guests had recorded it (which I'm sure some did) and OSHA or someone else found out about it before we dealt with it, we'd have faced some pretty stiff fines.
One thing people don't understand about our work as security in the casino industry, is that on some properties, we are also responsible for monitoring safe work conditions (because of how much of a presence we typically have, we usually have one safety inspector on property are all times, but he is just one person. For a security shift, well I'm not allowed to say how many we have on shift, but it's enough to cover the property and monitor what is going on)
To bad, I liked that job to (damn covid)
Damn, the catwalk guy’s body was never found...
Either incinerated by the fire or dissolved in the acid.
I'm guessing both.
Given that there are explosion, fire, and acid, I don't think there is anything identifiable as human left now.
Considering most of these were caused by the sun warming stuff through the day ... these vapour detectors should be permanently 'ON' and attached to nearby surfaces and areas close to the work.
That said ... most of these jobs were SO dangerous no matter what, and another method of cutting should have been insisted upon.
Very useful content to train the employees on hot work
I work for a safety company where we do training for companies in the industrial work environment. We have a facebook page where we like to share information and videos related to workplace safety.
I just wanted to ask if it is ok that we share this video on our facebook page for people to watch and keep safe when performing, or working near hot work activities.
+Scott Stalmack Since the CSB is a Federal government agency, and these works are not classified for the protection of the country, it is public domain, and can be shared and used freely.
+Scott Stalmack Also, it's ALWAYS legal to share any video by a link or by embedding, no matter who made it. You just can't download and re-upload it, or claim you made it. Kudos to you and your company for working to improve safety!
Thank you guys for the information. It's much appreciated.
What’s the name of your safety company
Your tax dollars went to the production of this video, you have every right to show it to whoever you want. It’s a very good use of our federal resources I believe.
Excellent video. These should be promoted and used by all companies safety teams of awareness.
Anytime you see anybody using a ladder like the one that was used in this video you know there's going to be an accident.
Usually not such a spectacular accident but you know there's going to be an accident.
I feel so bad for all those accidents yet I'm kinda addicted to this series. Am I a bad person because I love seeing safety guidlines being broken? Please explain
Upper management and executives of companies like this should be required to pay for and forced to attend every funeral for workers they kill through cutting costs on safety training and equipment.
So this guy was told it was a water pumping station? Looks like someone needs some prison time.
I recently was tasked with replacing a damaged empty fuel tank on a semi truck
The tank bands were corroded and wouldnt come loose even with an impact wrench
The customer was impatient and my superior told me to "simply grind through the bands"
I told him that im not going to grind on a container filled with a perfect gas/fuel mix and if the customer needed his truck so bad he should learn to drive properly.
Guys dont die because of other peoples stupidity impatience and greed you can get another job but you cant get another life
@Duvmasta The chairmans accent is Northern Irish.
We were contracted to demolish a 30ft dia. storage tank. Checked for vapors and confined space regulations, disconnected all feed and drain lines . Without a problem had cut up the entire thing except the floor. As soon as we started on the floor an explosion lifted the entire tank floor nearly a foot, including anyone standing on it. Later discovered that product had leaked through small rust holes in the floor and pooled under the floor. No one was hurt but, a few of the guys had to go home and change their pants. Close call, tought us never consider a job as "got it in the bag" .
Question to CSB: How many standards in the industries you oversee are consensus-based ANSI standards?
My company does a lot of confined space and hot work. Continuous gas monitoring. All adjacent tanks are disconnected, blocked and locked out. Using a torch to check for explosive gas is beyond dumb.
i would genuinely love to see this hotwork safety video re-done with modern animations.
also, these are all so awful results of so many innocent mistakes. ♥
There is a common theme in some of these flammable vapor disasters whether or not they are using a gas detector: They check in the morning when they get there and as the day warms the gas leaks and seeks an ignition point. Is that part of the training, if they get any?
To all the other skilled trades workers out there, stay safe everyone.
The insidious sequence of events is most telling. Certainly, some of the incidents were straightforward, but decomposing matter found in most food processing plant water treatment systems and microbes producing hydrogen from metabolizing organic matter demonstrates a more thorough hot work permit system than many in the 'nontraditional' flammable arena use. It also shows that Management of Change is substantially more important in the non-CFR1910.119 PSM industries recognize.
So sorry about Clyde and the workers who died as well
This narrator sound like the guy from crime shows.
@drbillcorcoran - CSB is only in existence under sufferance from OSHA. There is major political turf battling over them - even though they provide technical expertise which OSHA lacks...
The fact that all of these could have been avoided with proper training and equipment. These people could have returned home but because of lack of training and proper equipment they can never see there families again.
I also live in Mississippi and my grandmother remembered the story from the news
It seems like such an easy and cheap task to just place a small personal flammable gas detector near anywhere hot work is taking place. Still baffles me why companies don't require this practice.
They told him it was water pumping station?? Someone should be in jail!
I know unions can get out of hand sometimes but I think this demonstrates their importance.
John used to weld full propane tanks, and take off hydraulic fittings under full pressure.
It is astounding how many of these, if you'll forgive the phrase, boil down to temperature changes causing vapor.
Especially because it's not as if these were indoors, and faulty/improperly calibrated equipment caused unexpected heat. It was the sun. That thing that is there in some capacity everyday. How would the individuals in charge of the project not *think* ??
Adding additionally, I've just started going to school for mechanical engineering, but I am now considering a focus in safety, whatever that path might be.
_"..inserting a lit welding torch into the tank.."_
You can't make this sh*t up 🤯😂
I think gas monitor should be placed in strategic locations around any hot work and active during the entire process the sound of an alarm if there is flammable gas detected even if it is not explosive level
checking it with a lit torch lol. if it blows up do they cancel that job ?
They cancel themselves
despite the burns, John still looks so handsome!!! he is a very good looking man!
I can't believe they got Micheal Jackson to make a cameo for this Hot Work Safety Video.
20 year old kids can barely pick their nose. AGAIN, they took the lowest price to save the most money. Csb makes a good video and that's the end of it and nothing changes. Good job guys.
Increase the quality of training is to expensive until stuff like this happens. Safety is number 1 then productivity, you are no good to a company dead. People get work done much faster when they are sure they are safe. In the examples shown in this video, those people were probably taught to press on when they are unsure as usually there is nothing wrong but with proper training I'm sure they would have learned to respect flammable materials at all times and from all sources and then proceed.
hot work contain some hidden hazards, which should be identified, and remove.
*"You going to jail now. You going to jail now." *Uppercut**
1:18 if I’m not wrong, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this man on tiktok talking about how he used to be so ashamed to eat around other people bc of how he looked ): thankfully the comments are overwhelmingly positive and he doesn’t seem to scared anymore
Who's letting these guys use open flames next to vapor?
Breaks my heart that most of these can be preventable
My cousin is pretty much walking dead after a boiler blew up. Employees placed a wrong gasket somewhere. He came in to inspect and it blew.
Very useful for students like us
As a Canadian in SE Sask we fortunately haven't to many incidents from hot work in oilfields we are pretty strict on Oilfield safety with employment termination if employees don't want to apply or comply with the life saving safety protocol that is there for everyone safety since 05 when I moved down here there has not been any H2S poisoning accident gladly say there have been sadly to say a few fetal service rig accident of service tipping over in Saskatchewan winds they were called free standing rigs but it set a new safety precedence which gladly to report wind hazards safety procedures high winds over 50km hr no service rig hands to work we also have the right refuse dangerous work without job loss.
Feel so sorry for john, hope that company were fined and had to pay compensation to john. Telling him it was a water pump, how could they not know what it was used for.
3:31 That is the most Mississippi thing I have ever heard of.
He asked her to stay with him until the end. That kinda teared me up
“Oh, I remember those other episodes of hot works”
I have worked for number of chemical companies in the UK after leaving school, the majority of them had strong safety rules concerning any maintenance work and indeed BEFORE any repairs or examination work was carried out, strict safety regulations were always applied in those early days,1950's, a few years later as BIGGer corporations took over the small plants where I had worked, regulations were considered a nuisance and worse still, jobs were being carried out by unqualified or inexperienced individuals on a 'Quick in and out' style', Time is money, I saw the problem arising, it seems that Major Corporations are dictated by Cash Flow/Profits, therefore it becomes a habit to make maintenance or repairs on an 'AS NEEDED' basis, and find someone...anyone, who'll do the repairs at the lowest price was the new Normal.Many American corporations,Union Carbide and Bhopal for instance, The firm in ITALY which exposed a whole town to DIOXIN in the 70's Many Oil Companies and the very large American corporations are operated in this manner. THis is what occurs when MONEY becomes the PRIME product, rather than the actual manufactured product which is surely more important especially when the default corporation can hire the legal equivalent of there own Philosophy,Samrt Legal representatives whi are able to turn disasters into FAULTS committed by the offending party, i.e the worker/s rather than the Corporation Executives. The case of Union Carbine and Bhopal is a particularly interesting example to read up.
RIP Clyde :( what a sad story
How come in the USA lots of hot work accidents we have done lots of safe hot work in Western Canadian oilfield here
Thank you friend
God bless you
Oh it was in Florida, that makes sense they used a torch to check for flammable gas??
Not real surprised the body of the one person in the acid explosion was not found. Body probably ended up in the sulfuric acid and got dissolved.
Boss: use this welding torch near this tank releasing combustible gas fumes.
Me: Go to hell! I quit this chicken outfit!
Many people don't have that luxury.
These type of videos usually costs hundreds, or thousands of dollars for companies to buy even single vhs tapes for 10 min video seminars. And we get it for free.
Am I the only one who looks away from the welding arcs in these videos?
The fuel tank on my car has a leak, can someone weld it for me right quick?
"Let's do hot work on oil and gas tanks baking in the sun, because fuck it, their lives are cheap."
Sounds about right.
9:26
No shit his body was never found, he fucking melted!
9:48 so no details on the HI accident?? Huh??
With the rollback of regulations this will soon become routine
Some of companies have only a few employees to do the work are not trained and usually hired because they are cheaper
"I need to check if this potentially lethal tank is filled with flammable gas, let me throw a torch in there"
A human thought of this as ok. A human with (I assume) a human brain. God help us.
You just can't fix stupid....
So let me get this straight, they test for an explosive atmosphere by sticking a lit torch into that atmosphere? Well, I guess if it turns out to be not safe it won't really matter to them at that point anyway. For some reason that reminds me of way back in the day when they would attempt to drown a women to determine whether or not she was a witch.....🤔
Edit- "What? She drowned? Guess that means she wasn't a witch after all. Oh well, she's dead now, won't matter anyway".
"What? It blew up and killed Jim? Guess it wasn't safe after all. Oops.... Oh well, he's dead now, guess it doesn't matter either way...".
7:50 "ineffective monitoring are just as dangerous as no monitoring at all" wrong, ineffective monitoring is far worse because it provides a false sense of security and makes people more reckless. Tell them "hey, watch out, I don't know if there's dangerous gas, there MIGHT be dangerous gas"... how do you think the person would react?
K so why aren't harmful gas detectors just constantly on and carried like a metal detector or something??
Refrigeration systems is another hot work hazard. Systems having an inert refrigerant replaced with a flammable one, without getting the labelling updated.
There is a reason why propane was ruled out as a refrigerant
moral of this story: choose the right tool for the job at hand.... using tools that generate hot sparks around potentially flammable substances are sure fire recipe for disaster.
applied reasoning in these featured tragedies: "hmmm let's check how full the gas tank is with a lit match..."
Reminder: never work with liquid hot metal ever anywhere.
We do dangerous things all the time and a lot of. The time we dont realise just how dangerous until something bad happens
There's gotta be a scientific name for this phenomenon