*Books (and Media) Mentioned: Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler The Carbon Diaries by Saci lloyd Odds against Tomorrow by Nathanial Rich There's no place like home by Edan Lepucki Tipping Point by Si Rosser The Hillside by Jane Smiley Far North: A Novel by Marcel Theroux Arctic Drift by Clive Cussler and Dirk Cussler Boca Raton by Lauren Groff Gajba by Aleksander Gubas After the fall before the fall during the fall by Nancy Kress Talls the Shadow by Skip Horack The Year of the Flood by Margaret Atwood The Current by Tim Johnston (The Day After Tomorrow 2004) (Captain Plant and the Planeteers 1990) (Wall-E 2008) (Lil Dicky - Earth) The Drowned World by J.G. Ballard The Purchase of the North Pole by Jules Verne Paris in the Twentieth century by Jules Verne Frankenstein by Mary Shelley The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck (The Grapes of Wrath 1940) (Them! 1954) (Beginning of the End 1957) Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison (Soylent Green 1973) A Boy and His Dog at the End of the World by A. Fletcher I will Fear No Evil by Robert Heinlein The Minority Report by Philp K Dick The Butter Battle Book by Dr. Seuss (Mad Max 1979) (Mad Max 2 1981) (Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome 1985) (Mad Max Fury Road 2015) Parable of the Talents by Octavia Butler Oryx and Crake the Madd Addam Trilogy by Margaret Atwood (Waterworld 1995) (The Day the Earth Stood Still 1951) (The Day the Earth Stood Still 2008) (Snowpiercer 2013) Tentacle by Rita Indiana Not Dark Yet by Berit Ellingsen The Gulf by Belle Boggs New York 2140 by Kim Stanley Robinson The End We Start From by Megan Hunter
I think reading climate fiction "changed my mind" in so far as it helped me imagine the ways the world might be different, (and bad, likely with further exasperated inequalities), but survivable. This was not necessarily a hopeful/optimistic shift in perspective (like, it certainly didn't move me to think climate change was a /less/ important issue), but it opened up a new space I hadn't been thinking about. I feel like the current culturally salient framing of "we have x years to save the planet" encourages people to imagine the end of the world as a hard stop (like, we fail to cut emissions in X years, we fail to stop climate change, the earth burns that second, fade to black). Climate fiction helps me think about vastly altered worlds where we've already lost the battle, but where we haven't gotten out of the consequence of people still having to live in them.
My personal favorite piece of climate fiction is actually an ABC News-written special from 2009 called “Earth 2100”. It’s the life story of a woman born on the date of broadcast, and it’s a really potent reminder of the fate of humanity due to climate change. I think it’s on Dailymotion somewhere, but do check it out.
This was a very interesting discussion. I'm glad I discovered your channel. One request: balance the audio levels a bit better. Amy is twice as loud as Miriam.
Video games, too, have some interesting contributions to the genre: Frostpunk is probably one of the best for capturing the pressure to change based on impeding disaster. Anno 2077 examines the reestablishment of a green society in the wake of environmental disaster.
excellent point! there isn't a lot out there (which is why we didn't include it in the video) but I was reading some info about folks hoping to use video games that feature climate change as an in-road to climate conversations.
Interesting thing about Soylent Green, the movie, very early in the movie, Charlton Heston's character was complaining about the heat wave. In New York City at Christmas time...
Great video! I’m preparing a video on climate and environmental fiction, and this was good background for my research. If folks are looking for some good recommendations, I loved the novel “Migrations” which takes place in a near future where almost all animals are extinct, and a biologist tracks them from the Arctic to the Antarctic.
Parable of the Sower was a banger of a book! I find it so hard to identify with ppl who haven't an appreciation for Octavia Butler. She's someone who I also thought about more as someone who wrote from a non-white centric way with great characters, so it has never felt entitled/propagandistic to me.
I don't know if the author was directing intending this two-part series to directly talk about climate change, but some books I read in my teens by kat falls called 'Dark life' and 'riptide' seemed to kinda be set in a world where climate change kinda got out of control. They are good sci-fi young adult novels in my opinion, I'd love to know if anyone else had noticed that or read the books.
I've also seen a lot of climate fiction pop up in more science/speculative fiction texts as metaphors or villanus personifications such as the living plastic autons from Doctor Who or going back to it's history in the 70’s with the very on the nose The Green Death. (Allbeit both more focused on pollution in general rather than climate change in specific).
David Brin's Earth - an imagined future where green politics becomes mainstream. It has a scarily accurate imagining of the internet and looks at a the technological ascension of a 'Gaia' personality. Dune - primarily concerned with ecology as a shaper of culture. Arguably one of the more influential books concerning environmentalism. Deals with conservation of water on a desert planet becoming entwined with religion to create a society with a moral imperative of waste efficiency. The Uglies Series - A post-apocalyptic story driven by the divergent cultures of isolated city-states, where the pursuit of beauty leads to devastating consumer practices.
I love the 2140 book! His artwork is amazing. The artwork shows an accurate depiction of what New York City is going to be like in the future. Flooded New York is cool! Tokyo will also look like that. 👍.
The idea works in book form, as a movie maybe not? It is hard to make a disaster movie, without some "magical" way of making every disaster happen in quick succession. How do
Actually nothing will happen because humans can't control the climate. The earth does a pretty good job of regulating it's own inputs and outputs. Besides, the plan you people want to implement would lower the amount of plant food (CO2) and raise the price of fuel that would allow third world countries to advance past that. Which will lead to actual death.
@@blurplebear8573 Because of dipshits like you, who never opened a book about real climate science or economics or anything else, we cant have real talk, real solutions and nice things.
It was touched on in the video but I think another element is that the increasing trend of positive climate fiction can assuage a tiny bit of anxiety and help motivate people to keep going (especially climate activists who are burnt out but also try to watch media and are just reminded of how bad things are and will get). Like yeah, society is gonna collapse and it's gonna suck, but we're going to be friends during it! Unrealistic, maybe, but hey, sometimes you need some escapism. Anyway, good video and I am a big fan of Lindsay's dress.
Love this video, but I'm a little salty they gave Jules Vern credit for inventing sci-fi and not Mary Shelly, even though she gor mentioned, too. It might be a dumb hill to die on, but at least I'm dead
The swarm by Frank Schätzing was the first climate fiction book (there is science fiction in it as well) ive read like 10 years ago. It was, and still is, a masterpiece and one of my favourite books! Definitely go check it out!
Some chapters are unnecessarily long and the end is kind a ... meh, but Schätzing has some very interesting ideas. I can recommend it as well, even with the before mentionend weaknesses.
There is no time for fiction. Would be good if at least the summary of IPPC report was widely read. Unfortunately most people don't even know how much the Earth has warmed and don't care enough to learn it. Preaching to the choir is not going to bring change.
The earth hasn't changed average temperature for close to 20 years. The IPPC was involved with the falsification of data and you are quoting them as fact.
There are millions of people who understand it's a concern, but just don't know a lot about it. This is true of many young people, for example. An engaging fiction read can be useful to show these individuals what's at stake and get them more interested in the topic. It's just a starting point. A lot of scientists today in astronomy, engineering, computer science, etc etc read science fiction when they were younger, it's hard to not presume that many of them might have chosen a different career path had it not been for this inspiration.
@@blurplebear8573 The IPCC did not "falsify" data. This is a claim for which you have provided no evidence, and for which you have the burden of proof. Or do you expect everyone to just take your word for it because you have an astronaut next to your name?
@@David-di5bo Except that in engineering and computer science you actually have to prove out your claims. Astronomy has no such requirement. None of that has anything to do with whether or not climate change is real either.
@@David-di5bo No I expect them to actually look it up like I did, which is applying the scientific method, and they will come to the same conclusion. That's how science actually works.
So seems like the focus of the 2004 movie in US was mostly about climate change. I think in other countries, people just talked about it and watched it in the same way they would have thought about something like Interstellar. A movie with awesome graphics and story. But not sure if they thought even climate change part was fiction.
Surprised and happy to see the Lil Dicky reference. His lyrics really are brilliant and I've watched most of his videos several times (and always find a new joke that I didn't catch before, each time.) But "Earth" I only watched once -- I don't really know why, it wasn't "bad". Maybe because I know what will be in the comments section, and if I fall into it, I won't be able to stop clicking the "reply" button until it's 8 hours later, my blood pressure 20 points higher and I'm legally blind.
Don't boil the blood! Yikes. Will have to add this to the Zero Carbon Playlist - medium.com/zero-carbon-playbook/zero-carbon-playlist-639ff2221b40 - what else would you add?
Dry is a good one, the capitalist making money off the situation is shown to be extremely bad and hated but other characters and there's a commune run by a woman that saves many lives.
Sorry kids, the profoundly deep and disturbing changes ahead are completely understated,. expect to see most of our cultures wiped out, most of our supportive environment and nearly all of our species...seems like just about anything goes for this plot. Oh., and science has ready-made climate models and scenarios - just pick one and add some characters. The most ferociously interesting times are ahead. If it weren't for all the suffering, these times would be enjoyably interesting.
Yes they are ready made models all the way to the fake data they've put into them. If the whole world is going to be flooded in 12 years why are banks giving out 40 year loans on Florida beach houses?
The Day after tomorrow is horrible, by depicting a nonsense scenario! I do understand the need for getting the script going, but it is just too ridiculous, so maybe doing more harm that good by depicting the danger as implausible.
I will join a general climate strike if other people do but so far it seems like it'd be just me. The general strike is, I believe, the best tool we have to force action from our leaders on this.
I really wanted to see more fiction about a near future with climate change. Like, most fiction written about it either goes all the way to the post apocalyptic era or is about natural disasters and such. I wish we could see an author imagining the world in 2050ish, the consequences of the rise of temperature in the day to day life of people without them having to escape tornados or fighting muscle dudes in a motorcycle for a cup of water (not that I'm against it, but, you know, I'd like some other flavors).
The nature of climate change makes for a very drawn out story, without sci-fi tricks that makes things happen faster. A generational story spanning a century, would be interesting though.
Kim Stanley Robinson, whose "New York 2140" is mentioned in the video, also wrote the "Science in the Capital" series, later condensed and collected as "Green Earth", which seems to be exactly the kind of near-future story involving climate change that you are asking for.
A long video to NOT learn the important facts and stakes in this matter, and drive you to minimize the subject: "Global warming is not such an issue after all (about the life or death of our civilization, maybe humanity, for example); it CANNOT change its perception in a substantive way if it's not nice (did they even read Parable of the Sower or of the Talents? I tend to doubt it; it will make you feel "sad.") It is all about "anxiety", as if the reasons for this anxiety don't exist or are irrelevant, some background noise, etc. Pathetic. This video is about how to obliterate the elephant in the room and is part of the industry that makes it so. The real question being: "Why have the five big publishers not been publishing ANY fiction book about global warming, as it has been proven in the last two decades to be an existential threat? (a euphemism for human extinction) They want to make you believe, as in this quirky/smiley video, that there is today no real interest in dystopian climate fiction-this future we are making is, sorry, really dystopian-if not in the form of some utopia (as Stanley Robinson can make them: it will not make you "sad"), or why don't you read one of the thousand non-fiction books about the climate? A sure way to neuter any kind of emotion, and thus any fuel for action. Then I am asking you there on the screen: What comes first? The chicken or the egg? A very monopolistic, competition-killer industry (the Big Five), never published recently any such book as, say, the 1998 "Parable of the Talents," very much on point about what is happening TO US. "Well," they will answer, as in this video, "there is no real interest in this kind of realistic/dystopian/sad story. People want to be told that everything is fine." And, of course, since no such stories are allowed to be published, people don't buy them, don't read them. Since people don't buy such stories that are not published, publishers will tell you: "Well, there is no interest in this kind of realistic/dystopian/sad story..." If you have the patience, much more informative is to read "Where is the Fiction about climate change?" in The Guardian, by Amitav Ghosh (type it on Google). Excerpt: "To identify how this happens is, I think, a task of the utmost urgency: it may well be the key to understanding why today’s culture finds it so hard to deal with climate change. Indeed, this is perhaps the most important question ever to confront culture in the broadest sense - for let us make no mistake: the climate crisis is also a crisis of culture, and thus of the imagination." and, "In a substantially altered world, when sea-level rise has swallowed the Sundarbans and made cities such as Kolkata, New York and Bangkok uninhabitable, when readers and museum-goers turn to the art and literature of our time, will they not look, first and most urgently, for traces and portents of the altered world of their inheritance? And when they fail to find them, what can they do other than to conclude that ours was a time when most forms of art and literature were drawn into the modes of concealment that prevented people from recognising the realities of their plight? Quite possibly, then, this era, which so congratulates itself on its self-awareness, will come to be known as the time of the Great Derangement."
Not only is it not dropping, it is rising, and accelerating. www.pnas.org/content/115/9/2022 oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html But go ahead, post your Tony Heller video (or whatever other "source" you have bookmarked.)
David this isn’t data it’s an estimation/assumption that has yet to be proven. It also states that they expect a 3mm rise over 25 years. Wow, we better evacuate the entire coastline. I also like how you quote an organization called PNAS. Just say that out loud to really understand what you are if you believe this horseshit.
*Books (and Media) Mentioned:
Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler
The Carbon Diaries by Saci lloyd
Odds against Tomorrow by Nathanial Rich
There's no place like home by Edan Lepucki
Tipping Point by Si Rosser
The Hillside by Jane Smiley
Far North: A Novel by Marcel Theroux
Arctic Drift by Clive Cussler and Dirk Cussler
Boca Raton by Lauren Groff
Gajba by Aleksander Gubas
After the fall before the fall during the fall by Nancy Kress
Talls the Shadow by Skip Horack
The Year of the Flood by Margaret Atwood
The Current by Tim Johnston
(The Day After Tomorrow 2004)
(Captain Plant and the Planeteers 1990)
(Wall-E 2008)
(Lil Dicky - Earth)
The Drowned World by J.G. Ballard
The Purchase of the North Pole by Jules Verne
Paris in the Twentieth century by Jules Verne
Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
(The Grapes of Wrath 1940)
(Them! 1954)
(Beginning of the End 1957)
Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison
(Soylent Green 1973)
A Boy and His Dog at the End of the World by A. Fletcher
I will Fear No Evil by Robert Heinlein
The Minority Report by Philp K Dick
The Butter Battle Book by Dr. Seuss
(Mad Max 1979)
(Mad Max 2 1981)
(Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome 1985)
(Mad Max Fury Road 2015)
Parable of the Talents by Octavia Butler
Oryx and Crake the Madd Addam Trilogy by Margaret Atwood
(Waterworld 1995)
(The Day the Earth Stood Still 1951)
(The Day the Earth Stood Still 2008)
(Snowpiercer 2013)
Tentacle by Rita Indiana
Not Dark Yet by Berit Ellingsen
The Gulf by Belle Boggs
New York 2140 by Kim Stanley Robinson
The End We Start From by Megan Hunter
Jeff Vandermeer’s Southern Reach Trilogy was a life changing series for me- peak cli-fi!
I think reading climate fiction "changed my mind" in so far as it helped me imagine the ways the world might be different, (and bad, likely with further exasperated inequalities), but survivable. This was not necessarily a hopeful/optimistic shift in perspective (like, it certainly didn't move me to think climate change was a /less/ important issue), but it opened up a new space I hadn't been thinking about. I feel like the current culturally salient framing of "we have x years to save the planet" encourages people to imagine the end of the world as a hard stop (like, we fail to cut emissions in X years, we fail to stop climate change, the earth burns that second, fade to black). Climate fiction helps me think about vastly altered worlds where we've already lost the battle, but where we haven't gotten out of the consequence of people still having to live in them.
OK, how about climate sports? Show us your First Gigawatt Down. th-cam.com/video/8--VSh0JUT0/w-d-xo.html Thoughts? Join movment!
My personal favorite piece of climate fiction is actually an ABC News-written special from 2009 called “Earth 2100”. It’s the life story of a woman born on the date of broadcast, and it’s a really potent reminder of the fate of humanity due to climate change. I think it’s on Dailymotion somewhere, but do check it out.
I didn't know ABC news did that , thats so cool !!
This was a very interesting discussion. I'm glad I discovered your channel.
One request: balance the audio levels a bit better. Amy is twice as loud as Miriam.
Didn't you know? Being louder makes you right.
Great video, reminds me how hard climate change will be to address and how much I love Lindsay Ellis
Video games, too, have some interesting contributions to the genre:
Frostpunk is probably one of the best for capturing the pressure to change based on impeding disaster.
Anno 2077 examines the reestablishment of a green society in the wake of environmental disaster.
excellent point! there isn't a lot out there (which is why we didn't include it in the video) but I was reading some info about folks hoping to use video games that feature climate change as an in-road to climate conversations.
I really didn't need a reminder about that Earth song
Interesting thing about Soylent Green, the movie, very early in the movie, Charlton Heston's character was complaining about the heat wave. In New York City at Christmas time...
Great video! I’m preparing a video on climate and environmental fiction, and this was good background for my research. If folks are looking for some good recommendations, I loved the novel “Migrations” which takes place in a near future where almost all animals are extinct, and a biologist tracks them from the Arctic to the Antarctic.
Parable of the Sower was a banger of a book! I find it so hard to identify with ppl who haven't an appreciation for Octavia Butler. She's someone who I also thought about more as someone who wrote from a non-white centric way with great characters, so it has never felt entitled/propagandistic to me.
I don't know if the author was directing intending this two-part series to directly talk about climate change, but some books I read in my teens by kat falls called 'Dark life' and 'riptide' seemed to kinda be set in a world where climate change kinda got out of control.
They are good sci-fi young adult novels in my opinion, I'd love to know if anyone else had noticed that or read the books.
I've also seen a lot of climate fiction pop up in more science/speculative fiction texts as metaphors or villanus personifications such as the living plastic autons from Doctor Who or going back to it's history in the 70’s with the very on the nose The Green Death. (Allbeit both more focused on pollution in general rather than climate change in specific).
What are some good cli fi books you'd recommend?
David Brin's Earth - an imagined future where green politics becomes mainstream. It has a scarily accurate imagining of the internet and looks at a the technological ascension of a 'Gaia' personality.
Dune - primarily concerned with ecology as a shaper of culture. Arguably one of the more influential books concerning environmentalism. Deals with conservation of water on a desert planet becoming entwined with religion to create a society with a moral imperative of waste efficiency.
The Uglies Series - A post-apocalyptic story driven by the divergent cultures of isolated city-states, where the pursuit of beauty leads to devastating consumer practices.
@@6li7ch Year Zero, of course! fp2w.org/index.php/blog/article/year-zero
I love the 2140 book! His artwork is amazing. The artwork shows an accurate depiction of what New York City is going to be like in the future. Flooded New York is cool! Tokyo will also look like that. 👍.
The idea works in book form, as a movie maybe not? It is hard to make a disaster movie, without some "magical" way of making every disaster happen in quick succession. How do
The video's first minute is basically how all my seminars with mandatory reading begin :D
I read these books called the carbon diaries a couple years ago. They were cool, esp the second one
I'd recommend the works of Claudie Arseneault
I'm new to Hot Mess. I clicked because I already know and respect Lindsay Ellis.
Brian Aldiss's Hothouse is a fantastic outing from the genre
Also thank u for something that features Lindsay Ellis, I really missed her youtube releases due to her taking a break during 2019.
The answer is no. Nothing will happen unless the pain of inaction exceeds the pain of action. The universal law that governs human behavior.
have you heard of ambition, dummy? don't call it universal when you mean general.
@@NTMA11 If you say so.
@@NTMA11 Have you heard of delusion, dummy? Don't call it ambition when you mean collusion of ignorance and dumb will.
Actually nothing will happen because humans can't control the climate. The earth does a pretty good job of regulating it's own inputs and outputs. Besides, the plan you people want to implement would lower the amount of plant food (CO2) and raise the price of fuel that would allow third world countries to advance past that. Which will lead to actual death.
@@blurplebear8573 Because of dipshits like you, who never opened a book about real climate science or economics or anything else, we cant have real talk, real solutions and nice things.
Miriam - Watching you makes me think of Carl Sagan. I mean that in the nicest, most positive possible way.
wow. that means a lot! thank you.
It was touched on in the video but I think another element is that the increasing trend of positive climate fiction can assuage a tiny bit of anxiety and help motivate people to keep going (especially climate activists who are burnt out but also try to watch media and are just reminded of how bad things are and will get). Like yeah, society is gonna collapse and it's gonna suck, but we're going to be friends during it! Unrealistic, maybe, but hey, sometimes you need some escapism. Anyway, good video and I am a big fan of Lindsay's dress.
Love this video, but I'm a little salty they gave Jules Vern credit for inventing sci-fi and not Mary Shelly, even though she gor mentioned, too. It might be a dumb hill to die on, but at least I'm dead
Guys, good luck
This topic is so underrated amongst subtopics of climate change, I would say.
One of the absolute better movies to ever happen !!
The swarm by Frank Schätzing was the first climate fiction book (there is science fiction in it as well) ive read like 10 years ago. It was, and still is, a masterpiece and one of my favourite books! Definitely go check it out!
Some chapters are unnecessarily long and the end is kind a ... meh, but Schätzing has some very interesting ideas. I can recommend it as well, even with the before mentionend weaknesses.
@@webcodr have you read his new book "the tyranny of the butterfly"? I enjoyed reading it a lot!
Thanks for another great video!!
There is no time for fiction. Would be good if at least the summary of IPPC report was widely read. Unfortunately most people don't even know how much the Earth has warmed and don't care enough to learn it. Preaching to the choir is not going to bring change.
The earth hasn't changed average temperature for close to 20 years. The IPPC was involved with the falsification of data and you are quoting them as fact.
There are millions of people who understand it's a concern, but just don't know a lot about it. This is true of many young people, for example. An engaging fiction read can be useful to show these individuals what's at stake and get them more interested in the topic. It's just a starting point. A lot of scientists today in astronomy, engineering, computer science, etc etc read science fiction when they were younger, it's hard to not presume that many of them might have chosen a different career path had it not been for this inspiration.
@@blurplebear8573 The IPCC did not "falsify" data. This is a claim for which you have provided no evidence, and for which you have the burden of proof. Or do you expect everyone to just take your word for it because you have an astronaut next to your name?
@@David-di5bo Except that in engineering and computer science you actually have to prove out your claims. Astronomy has no such requirement. None of that has anything to do with whether or not climate change is real either.
@@David-di5bo No I expect them to actually look it up like I did, which is applying the scientific method, and they will come to the same conclusion. That's how science actually works.
awesome video thank you very much
I appreciate the lil Dicky reference (3:33)
So seems like the focus of the 2004 movie in US was mostly about climate change. I think in other countries, people just talked about it and watched it in the same way they would have thought about something like Interstellar. A movie with awesome graphics and story. But not sure if they thought even climate change part was fiction.
Would be nice if you could cover solarpunk.
You also have movies like 2012 and then movies like The Hunger Games or Divergent that would probably take place after
Yay Lindsay!
This video is awesome!
Surprised and happy to see the Lil Dicky reference. His lyrics really are brilliant and I've watched most of his videos several times (and always find a new joke that I didn't catch before, each time.)
But "Earth" I only watched once -- I don't really know why, it wasn't "bad". Maybe because I know what will be in the comments section, and if I fall into it, I won't be able to stop clicking the "reply" button until it's 8 hours later, my blood pressure 20 points higher and I'm legally blind.
Don't boil the blood! Yikes. Will have to add this to the Zero Carbon Playlist - medium.com/zero-carbon-playbook/zero-carbon-playlist-639ff2221b40 - what else would you add?
Interstellar wasn't even mentioned.
I'm here for OCTAVIA BUTLER
Dry is a good one, the capitalist making money off the situation is shown to be extremely bad and hated but other characters and there's a commune run by a woman that saves many lives.
INSPIRATION
"Ideology "my dear Zyzek could say from this channel.
👓 💬
🧥
👖
🧦
yes.
Never heard of it
Speaking of Zom...Bee, here's a "Zombie Power" story: fp2w.org/index.php/blog/article/zombie-power
Did Ayn Rand make teens believe in fairytale economics?
Only those who already believed they were already superior to others.
Amy Brady's intro was extremely loud compared to the previous segment, plz adjust.
Dune
Still better than those zombie apocalypse books.
Sorry kids, the profoundly deep and disturbing changes ahead are completely understated,. expect to see most of our cultures wiped out, most of our supportive environment and nearly all of our species...seems like just about anything goes for this plot. Oh., and science has ready-made climate models and scenarios - just pick one and add some characters. The most ferociously interesting times are ahead. If it weren't for all the suffering, these times would be enjoyably interesting.
Yes they are ready made models all the way to the fake data they've put into them. If the whole world is going to be flooded in 12 years why are banks giving out 40 year loans on Florida beach houses?
Michael Crichton did a cli-fi.
It wasn't well received
love lindsay ellis who she ended up here
The Day after tomorrow is horrible, by depicting a nonsense scenario! I do understand the need for getting the script going, but it is just too ridiculous, so maybe doing more harm that good by depicting the danger as implausible.
I will join a general climate strike if other people do but so far it seems like it'd be just me. The general strike is, I believe, the best tool we have to force action from our leaders on this.
Someone's gotta be first.
Can't wait to find out what horrible death awaits me!
B-movie?
Show naturalist enjoy nature and a really worried zero waster vegan
10:50
Instead pointless act of compensations the solution is simple. Go nuclear. That is it.
today Oct 4th: 95°F
Climate denier: cLiMatE cHAnGe iSn'T rEAl!!
U wanna step outside? Bc it's Autumn but feels like summer.
moron. Come to Canada and bring your parka
uhh, hate to be the one but... thanos?
I really wanted to see more fiction about a near future with climate change. Like, most fiction written about it either goes all the way to the post apocalyptic era or is about natural disasters and such. I wish we could see an author imagining the world in 2050ish, the consequences of the rise of temperature in the day to day life of people without them having to escape tornados or fighting muscle dudes in a motorcycle for a cup of water (not that I'm against it, but, you know, I'd like some other flavors).
The nature of climate change makes for a very drawn out story, without sci-fi tricks that makes things happen faster. A generational story spanning a century, would be interesting though.
Kim Stanley Robinson, whose "New York 2140" is mentioned in the video, also wrote the "Science in the Capital" series, later condensed and collected as "Green Earth", which seems to be exactly the kind of near-future story involving climate change that you are asking for.
A long video to NOT learn the important facts and stakes in this matter, and drive you to minimize the subject: "Global warming is not such an issue after all (about the life or death of our civilization, maybe humanity, for example); it CANNOT change its perception in a substantive way if it's not nice (did they even read Parable of the Sower or of the Talents? I tend to doubt it; it will make you feel "sad.") It is all about "anxiety", as if the reasons for this anxiety don't exist or are irrelevant, some background noise, etc. Pathetic.
This video is about how to obliterate the elephant in the room and is part of the industry that makes it so. The real question being: "Why have the five big publishers not been publishing ANY fiction book about global warming, as it has been proven in the last two decades to be an existential threat? (a euphemism for human extinction) They want to make you believe, as in this quirky/smiley video, that there is today no real interest in dystopian climate fiction-this future we are making is, sorry, really dystopian-if not in the form of some utopia (as Stanley Robinson can make them: it will not make you "sad"), or why don't you read one of the thousand non-fiction books about the climate? A sure way to neuter any kind of emotion, and thus any fuel for action.
Then I am asking you there on the screen: What comes first? The chicken or the egg? A very monopolistic, competition-killer industry (the Big Five), never published recently any such book as, say, the 1998 "Parable of the Talents," very much on point about what is happening TO US. "Well," they will answer, as in this video, "there is no real interest in this kind of realistic/dystopian/sad story. People want to be told that everything is fine." And, of course, since no such stories are allowed to be published, people don't buy them, don't read them. Since people don't buy such stories that are not published, publishers will tell you: "Well, there is no interest in this kind of realistic/dystopian/sad story..."
If you have the patience, much more informative is to read "Where is the Fiction about climate change?" in The Guardian, by Amitav Ghosh (type it on Google).
Excerpt: "To identify how this happens is, I think, a task of the utmost urgency: it may well be the key to understanding why today’s culture finds it so hard to deal with climate change. Indeed, this is perhaps the most important question ever to confront culture in the broadest sense - for let us make no mistake: the climate crisis is also a crisis of culture, and thus of the imagination." and, "In a substantially altered world, when sea-level rise has swallowed the Sundarbans and made cities such as Kolkata, New York and Bangkok uninhabitable, when readers and museum-goers turn to the art and literature of our time, will they not look, first and most urgently, for traces and portents of the altered world of their inheritance? And when they fail to find them, what can they do other than to conclude that ours was a time when most forms of art and literature were drawn into the modes of concealment that prevented people from recognising the realities of their plight? Quite possibly, then, this era, which so congratulates itself on its self-awareness, will come to be known as the time of the Great Derangement."
Sea levels are dropping. Just thought I'd mention it.
CMDR Qrusha are you upside down because then I can agree with you
There is no concrete data on that being accurate at all.
Not only is it not dropping, it is rising, and accelerating.
www.pnas.org/content/115/9/2022
oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html
But go ahead, post your Tony Heller video (or whatever other "source" you have bookmarked.)
He's subscribing to David Icke! Explains everything.
David this isn’t data it’s an estimation/assumption that has yet to be proven. It also states that they expect a 3mm rise over 25 years. Wow, we better evacuate the entire coastline. I also like how you quote an organization called PNAS. Just say that out loud to really understand what you are if you believe this horseshit.
With all respect I have for Miriam and Lindsay, to hell with this literary genere
Miss you ...mam " cute "
This video is too female, men read book too
Cute nerd girls are fine.