You can run a Sega Genesis off of a 9 volt battery I actually did this. Back in the day when I was in high school and we were doing finals. We were told we could bring something like a Gameboy as long as we had headphones. I asked if I could bring a Genesis is my English teacher I said as long as you got headphones a TV to play it on and a way to power it without plug it into the wall go ahead. So I brought a Sega Genesis with a 9 volt battery hooked up to it and one of them Sony Watchman. Hey my English teacher said he saw some weird-ass shit back in his day and this topped it. Also remember this was about two years before the Sega Nomad came out
It’s like the game you have been playing for years shut down from hackers or finishing a TH-cam series that was fun to watch but was short cause the channel stoped posting
@@tecc9999 Why should it? I definitely wouldn't connect it straight to the 12 V system of a running car though - apparently that can have some really nasty voltage spikes that well exceed the 18 V of the regulator.
@@Ragnar8504 obviously through some sort of step-down converter or regulator it won’t, but connected straight up to the battery’s 40-something amps it’d definitely would, regardless of the current spikes lol
@@tecc9999 Please have another close look at Ohm's law! Unless you've got a fault (short-circuit) it doesn't matter how many amps a source can supply, providing it's at least as many as you need (0.85 in this case). The NES or any other load just takes as many amps as it needs. As long as the voltage is correct of course. A (much) higher voltage will immediately destroy the NES!
4:16 "Pfft. Do I really look like the kinda guy who would go outside?" *Proceeds to run a Sega Genesis on the highest point in Australia using AA batteries.*
I actually had a Arduino 9v battery adapter that just so happened to fit my old NES. And yeah I played Mario 3 for about an hour~ before it started to glitch and die. That was back in 2011. Pretty neat though.
Baosław Baowski it does power it. You have to make sure that the 9v to barrel adapter has the right configuration in respect to ground and power. Some barrel jacks the center is ground and outside is power, and vise versa. Keep that in mind. Good luck. Cheers.
I'll admit, I didn't catch it at first. Apparently the thought of connecting things like a human centipede is such a normal analogy to me I don't even stop to think if maybe it shouldn't!
The dropoff of the power is actually a really cool effect. Instead of using a battery, it would be sick to set it up to some variable voltage power supply. Have it running, capture it all, and slowly slowly crank down the voltage to make it glitchier and glitchier.
Yeah I'm 3 years late but you might wanna check out an old Vinesauce video. He had an NES sent to him with a some pots hooked up to pins on CPU, RAM and other parts of the NES. It's a couple hours long he tries it out on Zelda, SMB/2/3 and Duck Hunt. Video titled: NES Hardware Corruptions. watch ID v=eBZSId7at40
Imagine doing that en route to the Moon via Starship, surrounded by Elon Musk, Yusaku Maezawa and a handful of hand-picked artists from various fields. Hell, maybe you'd be the video game artist or something, and battery-powered NES in zero gravity could be a recorded performance of sorts.
I would love to see a speed-run of a game done on an NES with double-A batteries, where they have to win before the power dies, and the weirdness just makes it more interesting.
considering the record for Super Mario Bros. 1 is under 5 minutes you could beat Mario 1 over a dozen times if you got the perfect RNG set up. The amount of time you have to wait before you press start is pretty consistent. Either way even with the slightly slower set ups and otherwise you can still get a good time.
HEY! That's a good parental control! just put rechargable batteries in it, that take a day or so to recharge. Kids only get to play the NES for however much time the batteries stay charged!
FYI you can mix in parallel and in series connected batteries. It's not recommended without a voltage regulator, since not all batteries provide exactly the same voltage, even brand new ones. (The voltage of batteries will drop over time or by using them.) A correctly connected circuit will give you about double of game time and can possibly be infinitely expanded. Another solution to improve game time is to use a battery management system that automatically switches to another battery pack if it detects that the battery pack in use drops to a critical voltage. It's possible to expand game time by maybe 5-10 minutes if you connect the battery pack directly to the pcb, since the ac to dc converter does lose a voltage of about .7 on the diode. I studied electronics (not just in theory) a few years ago and even designed some custom audio pcbs. For safety reasons, you could solder a physical switch near the battery pack to prevent it from shorting out.
@@ghostunix731 Ups are usually bulky and expensive and are placed between a device and the electrical plug. They do have a charge time. They aren't meant to hold a charge for weeks and forget about years and decades. A non rechargeable battery can hold a charge for multiple decades. (A Cr2012 of mine is still in use after 2 decades.) Batteries can be made with primitive materials and after a nuclear war you can still play with your Nes. (You can forget about more modern stuff.) Decade old pcbs (games, systems, etc.) can usually be restored by resoldering the connections and parts like resistors can be made woth basic materials.
@@sommor001I dissagee sir I use my ups generator every day because I can plug them directly into a solar panel so I feel that I have saved alot on aa batteries.
@@ghostunix731 I think you really don't know what a ""Ups generator"" is. A ""Ups Generator"" is usually a large diesel engine that can provide a large amount of electrical power for a few days or weeks. You are probably using a battery pack. The second thing is, that it's possible to buy rechargable batteries in the form factor of AA (with the correct voltage). The third thing is that years after a nuclear war AA batteries will still go strong and the title of the video was if it's possible to run a Nes on AA batteries.
When you said it was like the light fading from someone’s eyes, an ad about childhood cancer played immediately after and I just about died from laughter
Can you put DC through a rectifier? Yes. Should you? Probably not, if you want to be efficient. By connecting the DC through the rectifier you are forcing it to go through an unnecessary diode which will eat up approximately 0.7 to 1V, depending on the diode, per diode. The plus side is that a rectifier will protect you from destroying your electronics if you were to connect it with reverse polarity. Also, keep in mind that the rectifier would normally be outputting a rippling DC voltage based on the root mean squared of the adapter’s stepped down voltage. As for the Nintendo having a voltage regulator that can handle up to 18V, my guess is they wanted a universal design that would work with US, European, or other international voltages. It is probably using a buck converter to drop the battery, so your best bet for performance is a voltage in the middle of its range. It will not get hotter with higher voltages. Conversely it will be more inefficient with lower voltages. All that being said, good experiment. If you have any questions, I’d be happy to answer.
diode don't eat the voltage the drop the voltage. so you basically loose some capacity just from the voltage drop. and there are 4 in the nes so you actually drop almost two whole volts. the nes only needs 5 volts to operate a total of 6 to run the rf circuitry.
Coty Riddle I hear what you’re saying, just keep in mind that the voltage drop is still being dissipated as heat, thus being consumed. I wasn’t sure if the console had a full bridge rectifier, so as you said, that’s an even worse power loss. 👌
The NES existed before switching power supplies were invented or made cheap enough for consumer electronics (not sure which applied at this time). It actually uses a 3 terminal linear regulator. See 6:10. You can see the TO-220 7805 regulator hanging upside down from the RF pcb attached to a large heatsink.
Kyle Mayer 7805? I did not notice that. In that case, higher DC is definitely not better, though if I was to mod it, changing it out for a switching power supply would be one of the first things I do, provided the switch freq doesn’t mess up the timings or cause any other interference. Would probably want a large filter cap.
@MattKC The real thing that happens when everything starts to glitch is that when the game tries to process the code, the cpu works slower and things like updating graphicks and processing logic desyncs and eventually it does not holds up.
You could've made 2 (or more) banks of series batteries, and set them in parallel for more playtime. Would be interesting to have a charge/battery controller and rechargeable batteries to make it "mobile". This is starting to sound like a Ben Heck idea now.
I killed a Commodore printer that way. An MPS1270 inkjet. I did know the difference between DC and AC, I just didn't expect the SNES to be AC so I didn't bother to check.
LOL i had a heart, but then I edited to correct for a spelling mistake, so the heart went away. Big L Most likely so the commenter doesn't change the original comment to hate speech/something that would make the uploader look bad - whatever.
It would be cool to experiment with the effects of low voltage on different games for extended periods of time, maybe setting up some system of controlling how much power you're sending to the system after first powering it on, then keeping it at a constant lower rate to just experiment with the buggy mess it creates.
You just have to connect it to a power supply on which you can choose the voltage (i.e. a bench PSU) and then set it to get the desired results. It won't really simulate the falling short circuit current of a discharging battery, but it should produce similar results to what was experienced in the video.
You should replace the linear regulator with a modern buck converter to see how much that improves the battery length. Probably about 75% of the power is being wasted by that regulator. You could also try using a boost converter and get it all running off one single AA
3:23 what if you connect the 6 batteries in series and call it a batch and then connect 3 batches in parallel? That would be 18 batteries that last as long as 3 and it would still be 9v
as an eventually-to-be electrician, it makes me feel good already knowing the terminology and tools used in the video, even if its stuff you learn very early on
Excellent video. I found the glitches as it died really interesting. It could be a useful debugging tool. If we could match the dieing voltage to the different glitches.
Undervolting is a key component of circuit bending, you can get all sorts of strange reactions. Kinda interesting running the hardware lower than it's rated voltage to see what happens
in all honesty, I think you just made a surprisingly useful benchtop tool. when you got the mobo of your NES out on a cramped workbench (think Adrian's digital basement) it might be much easier to bring out that battery pack and plug it in instead of having to plug a giant wallwart into an already mostly-full power strip hidden behind a monitor or 2.
I did this in school for a school trip. Had a portable LCD TV as well. One 9V battery powered the NES and TV for 3 hours. I got an hour with a Sega Genesis instead of an NES. I did it again but swapped it out for a 6V lantern battery, which the alkaline variant could have upwards of 11 aH (11000 mah). I was not the coolest kid in school, but I should have. Maybe if I did it with a PS1 or N64. Screw it, playing Earthbound driving north through Michigan was worth it.
@@Cantendo if im not wrong, 2 or 3 in series does the job just fine, add a battery circuit that charges when the solar panel has too much light. But to be fair and square to the experiment, just add 3 solars cells/panels in series and directly connect them to a motor.
Your 9.89 volts is actually a little low. When rectifying AC to DC, you need to multiply the AC voltage by 1.41 to get the DC voltage, so with a 9v AC adapter, you will see around 12.7VDC on the DC side of the rectifier. When running DC through the rectifier, you will see the incoming DC voltage, less the forward voltage drop of the conducting diodes, so you could safely feed 12VDC into it all day long. A 12V sealed lead acid battery worth work great.
No, you multiply by 1.41 to get the *peak* voltage. You will still get ~9V RMS (minus diode drop) on the output side if it's unfiltered. The NES is filtered so you will get a roughly steady DC voltage of 9V minus two diode drops.
@@Si1983h Lol well, it's not but okay. Just look at the output waveform for an unfiltered full-bridge rectifier and it's immediately obvious that you're wrong.
you are seriously a hidden gem. you have great production quallity and very funny! you should definitely be more popular. You sir, just gained a new subscriber!
I did a similar test with my PSone and LCD. It worked, but had comparable battery life to a Game Gear because the backlight is the same fluorescent tech It would reset itself anytime the lid was closed once the batteries got low too, I think if the power was regulated it would help a lot
@Phillip_HanBurst THANK YOU, this is the proper equation: 850x9/60x850=108 (AKA 1h and 8mins) for the lifetime or an easier way to think of it: MaH Rating(X)Input Voltage(/)1 Hour or 60(X)or(/)Output Load = Rated Discharge time before none operational What you Calculated(MattKC) is for how much battery is left? even @Phillip_HanBurst Noticed, anyone else NOT gonna ask why he calculated the Power Left in the battery? he litterly did 850/850=1 (You didnt even use any time calculation) sideNote: you divided 850 by 850 XD?
Back in the day, I would power it with an old car battery since i had no way of getting an adapter. Watching your video explained why after days of playing the graphics were getting blur. I thought that the cartridge were dirty or were degraded. Now i see that all i had to do was recharge the old battery. Nice video by the way.
We used to run ours directly from the 12v plug in the motorhome along with a cheap lcd tv. The internal voltage regulator takes care of the few extra volts without any issue and with a 5kwh battery bank we never worried about how long we played. Good times.
I'm enjoying the classic tracks in the background. 1. (I knew this but I forgot, the title read "Dance Music") 2. ? 3. Rain Eater 4. Contraduct Design 5. Spock's Cryo-Bed 6. BRD Keygen 14 (LHS/DFS) 7. ? 8. ? Let me know of other songs I didn't identify correctly.
I'm curious why the 7805 didn't just drop off once the voltage got below ~7.5. I'd be interested to see the regulator output on a scope. I wonder if some power was drawn through the video connector after a certain point or if the composite signal somehow caused feedback noise to corrupt the images
Huh, some time ago I ran a Sega Master System through a variable power supply and when the power gets too low (anything below 7.5 volts causes the system to get increasingly unstable) the system locks up but like the CPU halts, it could be because the variable power supply quickly moves to a new selected voltage. Still you'd have the system just locked up before its output goes out.
Ashley Williams is correct. All of them. We can even go further and say *all* electronics can be powered by batteries (some would require some additional help, however (like capacitors or whatever)). It just simply becomes a matter of economics and practicality at that point.
@davidevgen you can big this magic box for $150 that powers the nes and tv and for an extra $100 you can harness that power of the sun God instead of charging the box from the mains. Overall you save thousands using this method then the alternative.
2:50 Wrong, no matter the connection, overall energy that battery pack could give would sum up the same way. The series connection just increases voltage, what ables you to use more power aka draw more current. If you connect 6 AA batteries in parallel and use DC-DC voltage amplifier to 9V and 6 AA batteries in series to 9V. They "run off" in exact same time (assuming no heat losses and 100% efficient DC-DC)
How did you connect NES video output to the LCD PC monitor? I always wanted to do that, but I don't know how did you achieve this sharpness and crispness of image with composite video to VGA converter. I suppose that you might have very expensive, high-end composite to VGA converter. What model do you have?
5:49 There's no problem with 10 volts because that's the voltage without any load. Considering that the NES worked for 1.5 hours on the 6 batteries, the voltage likely dropped to 8 volts when you turned it on.
2:24 the 9VAC adapter technically a sine wave at 50Hz and 9V RMS, so the peak voltage is 9*sqrt(2), or about 12.728V. So you would technically need between 8 and 9 batteries (both should be safe, as the transformers in the original adapters can have small errors, and the voltage is converted to 5V later anyways).
What would happen if you had two packs of six AA’s in series, and then connected those in parallel? Would that double the capacity or just start a fire?
I saw the title and was like "Yes you can but not for very long. I've seen a video just like this a while ago." then realized this is that very same video.
My dad did this when he was a kid, but he used 2 lantern batteries and a mini TV that ran on D cells When I was 14 i made a mobile PS2 with a PS2 slim, a tiny LCD panel and 2 18650 cells There was nothing quite like playing GTA San Andreas on the school bus while everyone else had a gameboy or one of those tiger electronic games
@@Kitulous similar, but mine was able to use discs, had a messiah modchip for playing burned games, used the original controllers, and supported multiplayer It was basically a PS2 slim with a fold up screen mounted on top of it and a battery pack taped to it, it was not as portable as the one in that video, but I could still use it as a regular PS2 by unplugging the screen and battery pack, then plugging it into the mains and my TV More like a Nintendo switch but instead of joycons you only have a pro controller
You can run a Sega Genesis off of a 9 volt battery I actually did this. Back in the day when I was in high school and we were doing finals. We were told we could bring something like a Gameboy as long as we had headphones. I asked if I could bring a Genesis is my English teacher I said as long as you got headphones a TV to play it on and a way to power it without plug it into the wall go ahead. So I brought a Sega Genesis with a 9 volt battery hooked up to it and one of them Sony Watchman. Hey my English teacher said he saw some weird-ass shit back in his day and this topped it. Also remember this was about two years before the Sega Nomad came out
Careful... we’re dealing with a legend here!
This is such a nice and wholesome story
Ayyy LMAO
john koziol lol that teacher sounds awesome 😎
Careful... He's a hero
It's actually kinda heavy and sad seeing it slowly dying instead of just shutting off all at once. I kinda felt bad for it.
@@liukang3545 rude
Its just a burning memory
It’s like the game you have been playing for years shut down from hackers or finishing a TH-cam series that was fun to watch but was short cause the channel stoped posting
@@deliriumbruv4322 why have you done this
Yeah about that... A psone will just restart when the batteries run super low
I know cuz I did this shit a long time ago
"The batteries wont last very long"
"The NES's voltage regulator is rated for up to 18 volts"
Car Battery would like to know your location
There we go
it’d be interesting to see how it would fair connected to a car’s 12v, probably explode haha
@@tecc9999 Why should it? I definitely wouldn't connect it straight to the 12 V system of a running car though - apparently that can have some really nasty voltage spikes that well exceed the 18 V of the regulator.
@@Ragnar8504 obviously through some sort of step-down converter or regulator it won’t, but connected straight up to the battery’s 40-something amps it’d definitely would, regardless of the current spikes lol
@@tecc9999 Please have another close look at Ohm's law! Unless you've got a fault (short-circuit) it doesn't matter how many amps a source can supply, providing it's at least as many as you need (0.85 in this case). The NES or any other load just takes as many amps as it needs. As long as the voltage is correct of course. A (much) higher voltage will immediately destroy the NES!
"It was like watching life fade from someone's eyes."
Then I got a Nintendo Switch ad. Good timing.
I got an Arby's ad
I got a Duracell ad just before that section of the video
I got a dominos ad lmao
i got no ad's
@@Boomrainbownuke9608 same
4:16 "Pfft. Do I really look like the kinda guy who would go outside?" *Proceeds to run a Sega Genesis on the highest point in Australia using AA batteries.*
More like: 4:13
💀💀💀
A single 9v battery will power a NES however not for long.
stuff for the next video :)
Connect those in parallel, profit.
I actually had a Arduino 9v battery adapter that just so happened to fit my old NES. And yeah I played Mario 3 for about an hour~ before it started to glitch and die. That was back in 2011. Pretty neat though.
No, it doesn''t power NES even for a while . trust my i tried it.
Baosław Baowski it does power it. You have to make sure that the 9v to barrel adapter has the right configuration in respect to ground and power. Some barrel jacks the center is ground and outside is power, and vise versa. Keep that in mind. Good luck. Cheers.
“Can I run a gaming pc with a car battery?”
Yes! Actually you can hook up an inverter (converts 12VDC to 120VAC) and run it from there!
(edit): changed alternator with inverter (oops)
That's pretty insane.. damn
@@sweatypiranha You can even WELD with those things
@@mrdonut7158 Even has a self welding feature. Just needs a spanner.
@@mrdonut7158 they key word is inverter. altough you could make a alternator put out 120 but it will be 3 phase.
NES as the battery dies: "My mind is going Dave. I can feel it, I can feel it..."
Daisy, Day... syyy....
2:37 he could’ve used anything, literally anything as an analogy, and he used _human_ _centipede_ , that’s why I love this guy lmao
I'll admit, I didn't catch it at first. Apparently the thought of connecting things like a human centipede is such a normal analogy to me I don't even stop to think if maybe it shouldn't!
That movie really messed my mind up for a week.
It’s so subtle and genius at the same time
@@MikinessAnalog same couldn't sleep for 1 night bcus of that
@@ryancaling1711 Part 2 is where the actors play themselves. read into that LOL
The dropoff of the power is actually a really cool effect. Instead of using a battery, it would be sick to set it up to some variable voltage power supply. Have it running, capture it all, and slowly slowly crank down the voltage to make it glitchier and glitchier.
Yeah I'm 3 years late but you might wanna check out an old Vinesauce video. He had an NES sent to him with a some pots hooked up to pins on CPU, RAM and other parts of the NES. It's a couple hours long he tries it out on Zelda, SMB/2/3 and Duck Hunt.
Video titled: NES Hardware Corruptions.
watch ID v=eBZSId7at40
NES in Space running on batteries be like: My batteries are low and its getting dark.
scp-3001 be like
My mind is going, Dave. I can feel it.
Lachrymogenic, and the nes would play the moontheme from the game: ducktales😂😂😂
Imagine doing that en route to the Moon via Starship, surrounded by Elon Musk, Yusaku Maezawa and a handful of hand-picked artists from various fields. Hell, maybe you'd be the video game artist or something, and battery-powered NES in zero gravity could be a recorded performance of sorts.
Sadge
"CHANGE DA WORLD
MY FINAL MESSAGE.
GOODBY E"
- BatteryNES, 2019
Lol
Thancc... You
I hate that meme
@@fanpusheen2642 gtfo
Error
1:14 "What happens if you pass DC trough a DC rectifier?"
a) Absolutely nothing
b) The DC converts back to AC
c) Matt dies
I'm guessing c) Matt dies
d) The rectifier outputs DC.
@@user2C47 Oh frick you
Yes because he's not immortal (I assume), but not because of this experiment.
Duh, A)bsolutely nothing!
@@mari2. Well, what's Google gonna do about it? Kill him again?
I would love to see a speed-run of a game done on an NES with double-A batteries, where they have to win before the power dies, and the weirdness just makes it more interesting.
You could beat like 5 games wirth that
considering the record for Super Mario Bros. 1 is under 5 minutes you could beat Mario 1 over a dozen times if you got the perfect RNG set up. The amount of time you have to wait before you press start is pretty consistent. Either way even with the slightly slower set ups and otherwise you can still get a good time.
@@myhandleiswhat that would cost so much though
HEY! That's a good parental control! just put rechargable batteries in it, that take a day or so to recharge. Kids only get to play the NES for however much time the batteries stay charged!
I love how hard the NES fought to keep working. Like it knew some kid was playing it and it couldn't let them down.
FYI you can mix in parallel and in series connected batteries. It's not recommended without a voltage regulator, since not all batteries provide exactly the same voltage, even brand new ones. (The voltage of batteries will drop over time or by using them.) A correctly connected circuit will give you about double of game time and can possibly be infinitely expanded.
Another solution to improve game time is to use a battery management system that automatically switches to another battery pack if it detects that the battery pack in use drops to a critical voltage.
It's possible to expand game time by maybe 5-10 minutes if you connect the battery pack directly to the pcb, since the ac to dc converter does lose a voltage of about .7 on the diode.
I studied electronics (not just in theory) a few years ago and even designed some custom audio pcbs.
For safety reasons, you could solder a physical switch near the battery pack to prevent it from shorting out.
I was thinking about the same thing while watching the video, but I was not sure if that was possible
@sommor001 You should not attempt to modify anything because it's senseless waste of time when you could buy ups genrator.
@@ghostunix731 Ups are usually bulky and expensive and are placed between a device and the electrical plug. They do have a charge time. They aren't meant to hold a charge for weeks and forget about years and decades. A non rechargeable battery can hold a charge for multiple decades. (A Cr2012 of mine is still in use after 2 decades.) Batteries can be made with primitive materials and after a nuclear war you can still play with your Nes. (You can forget about more modern stuff.) Decade old pcbs (games, systems, etc.) can usually be restored by resoldering the connections and parts like resistors can be made woth basic materials.
@@sommor001I dissagee sir I use my ups generator every day because I can plug them directly into a solar panel so I feel that I have saved alot on aa batteries.
@@ghostunix731 I think you really don't know what a ""Ups generator"" is. A ""Ups Generator"" is usually a large diesel engine that can provide a large amount of electrical power for a few days or weeks.
You are probably using a battery pack.
The second thing is, that it's possible to buy rechargable batteries in the form factor of AA (with the correct voltage).
The third thing is that years after a nuclear war AA batteries will still go strong and the title of the video was if it's possible to run a Nes on AA batteries.
It goes through a FUUUUULLLL BRIDGEE RECTIFIAAAA
(electroboom)
Electro Boom is funny
Wind gushes, echo appears
EpicGamer exactly what came in my mind when he mentioned rectifier lol
That is the only way it would run.
@@AlexStroiescu and stupid
0:44 "Always DC current"
Direct current current
Soviet union.
Means union union.
Sahara desert means desert desert.
@@ninjabaiano6092
Chai tea = tea tea
Pita bread = bread bread
@@ninjabaiano6092 Soviet means council
@@ninjabaiano6092 Soyuz means union. Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik. Union [of] Soviet Socialist Republics
Hey, whatevz broseph. After all you only YOLO once!
When you said it was like the light fading from someone’s eyes, an ad about childhood cancer played immediately after and I just about died from laughter
tennis ball throw it against the wall
4:05 Super heavy duty batteries are Zinc-Carbon, alkalines are just called alkaline
Can you put DC through a rectifier? Yes.
Should you? Probably not, if you want to be efficient. By connecting the DC through the rectifier you are forcing it to go through an unnecessary diode which will eat up approximately 0.7 to 1V, depending on the diode, per diode. The plus side is that a rectifier will protect you from destroying your electronics if you were to connect it with reverse polarity.
Also, keep in mind that the rectifier would normally be outputting a rippling DC voltage based on the root mean squared of the adapter’s stepped down voltage.
As for the Nintendo having a voltage regulator that can handle up to 18V, my guess is they wanted a universal design that would work with US, European, or other international voltages. It is probably using a buck converter to drop the battery, so your best bet for performance is a voltage in the middle of its range. It will not get hotter with higher voltages. Conversely it will be more inefficient with lower voltages.
All that being said, good experiment. If you have any questions, I’d be happy to answer.
diode don't eat the voltage the drop the voltage. so you basically loose some capacity just from the voltage drop. and there are 4 in the nes so you actually drop almost two whole volts. the nes only needs 5 volts to operate a total of 6 to run the rf circuitry.
Coty Riddle I hear what you’re saying, just keep in mind that the voltage drop is still being dissipated as heat, thus being consumed. I wasn’t sure if the console had a full bridge rectifier, so as you said, that’s an even worse power loss. 👌
@@pirateskeleton7828 yes its full bridge. four discrete diodes wouldn't want to send half wave into that :D.
The NES existed before switching power supplies were invented or made cheap enough for consumer electronics (not sure which applied at this time). It actually uses a 3 terminal linear regulator. See 6:10. You can see the TO-220 7805 regulator hanging upside down from the RF pcb attached to a large heatsink.
Kyle Mayer 7805? I did not notice that. In that case, higher DC is definitely not better, though if I was to mod it, changing it out for a switching power supply would be one of the first things I do, provided the switch freq doesn’t mess up the timings or cause any other interference. Would probably want a large filter cap.
Him: "I played Fallout New Vegas on Hardcore and Sawyer's Mod"
Me: ..."I played Dr Mario in black and white"
OHHHHHHHH
Just run 15 9v batteries in parallel should be hours of on time
But very expensive fun time (unless they're rechargeable)
@@Empika Or a car battery.
Luis Marques are car batteries 9v? Otherwise that wouldn’t work.
TrainRider Railfan no but the nes runs on 9v
Or you can just be a normal person and use lithium ion batteries with boost or buck converters to get the voltage you want.
@MattKC The real thing that happens when everything starts to glitch is that when the game tries to process the code, the cpu works slower and things like updating graphicks and processing logic desyncs and eventually it does not holds up.
2050: "Can We Run a Ps5 on 20A Batteries?"
Yes.
You could've made 2 (or more) banks of series batteries, and set them in parallel for more playtime. Would be interesting to have a charge/battery controller and rechargeable batteries to make it "mobile". This is starting to sound like a Ben Heck idea now.
I remember as a kid I tried to use the nintendo plug on some other device and it popped and sizzled.
I killed a Commodore printer that way. An MPS1270 inkjet. I did know the difference between DC and AC, I just didn't expect the SNES to be AC so I didn't bother to check.
Mehdi Sadaghdar jumpstarted a car, so why not?
I did it, I went ElectroBOOM.
7:54 Did he just Die to 1-1 Goomba?!
Yes, yes he did
Didn't expect it to be THAT fascinating when I clicked the video! I really like your storytelling-style.
I mean.
It's only logical for you to try and use batteries to run an SNES in the next video, right?
Senpaizuri.kun Yes,yes yes!!!
@@tomypower4898 I would love it.
@@stargazersdance :) you too :)
And keep doing it all the way to the switch
"Can you run a 2020 gaming PC from AA batteries?"
I love your videos man, they're original. You're conquering an unsaturated area and you're killing it
LOL i had a heart, but then I edited to correct for a spelling mistake, so the heart went away. Big L
Most likely so the commenter doesn't change the original comment to hate speech/something that would make the uploader look bad - whatever.
@konakonaa L O L XDDDDDDDDD YEEEEET
11:30 "and that's how I lost my medical license"
@Jamal Ramadan Just like the medical license.
It would be cool to experiment with the effects of low voltage on different games for extended periods of time, maybe setting up some system of controlling how much power you're sending to the system after first powering it on, then keeping it at a constant lower rate to just experiment with the buggy mess it creates.
He should do it!!! I would but I don’t have the money 😂
You just have to connect it to a power supply on which you can choose the voltage (i.e. a bench PSU) and then set it to get the desired results. It won't really simulate the falling short circuit current of a discharging battery, but it should produce similar results to what was experienced in the video.
Nintendo: "Now you're playing with power"
MattKC took the ad way too seriously.
That's longer than what my Sega Gamegear lasted on batteries!
Of course, not accounting the display.
This is why they started using LEDs in LCDs. CCFLs are stupidly wasteful when it comes to power.
You should replace the linear regulator with a modern buck converter to see how much that improves the battery length. Probably about 75% of the power is being wasted by that regulator.
You could also try using a boost converter and get it all running off one single AA
The sentence-mixed DK Rap bit got me lol. Glad to see you are (or at least were at some point) a fellow TH-cam Pooper!
3:23 what if you connect the 6 batteries in series and call it a batch and then connect 3 batches in parallel? That would be 18 batteries that last as long as 3 and it would still be 9v
Sure, it gets more and more expensive though.
Dear God, the final moments of the NES was both heartbreaking and utterly terrifying like thats some creepypasta shit right there
Damn I'd love to see a dedicated video of the NES low battery effects. Especially hooked up to a CRT tv as the composite fails.
Just use a bench power supply and adjust the voltage down.
as an eventually-to-be electrician, it makes me feel good already knowing the terminology and tools used in the video, even if its stuff you learn very early on
He could make multiple rows of 6 batteries paralel to get more mAh.
6x6 rows. Connect the ends of the rows + then the end of the rows -.
Why youse AA-Batteries when you can use 9V-Blocks?
Excellent video. I found the glitches as it died really interesting. It could be a useful debugging tool. If we could match the dieing voltage to the different glitches.
Undervolting is a key component of circuit bending, you can get all sorts of strange reactions. Kinda interesting running the hardware lower than it's rated voltage to see what happens
in all honesty, I think you just made a surprisingly useful benchtop tool. when you got the mobo of your NES out on a cramped workbench (think Adrian's digital basement) it might be much easier to bring out that battery pack and plug it in instead of having to plug a giant wallwart into an already mostly-full power strip hidden behind a monitor or 2.
I did this in school for a school trip. Had a portable LCD TV as well. One 9V battery powered the NES and TV for 3 hours. I got an hour with a Sega Genesis instead of an NES. I did it again but swapped it out for a 6V lantern battery, which the alkaline variant could have upwards of 11 aH (11000 mah). I was not the coolest kid in school, but I should have. Maybe if I did it with a PS1 or N64. Screw it, playing Earthbound driving north through Michigan was worth it.
Powering an N64 off batteries is a bitch of a job, you would be better off using a power inverter
Earthbound wasn't on the NES. Why you lyin'?
@Red Stoner portable TV's
@@Geeksmithing I misspoke.
@@thatguyontheright1 NES on the go is a cool idea.... 🤔🧐🤨
I'd love to see this revisited just to see what other games make of the reducing voltage. Add sound for top notch viewing pleasure.
Famiclone: allow us to introduce ourselves
I remember i did a science experiment that was “how many solar panels does it take to power a toy train?” That reminds me of this
How many
@@Cantendo if im not wrong, 2 or 3 in series does the job just fine, add a battery circuit that charges when the solar panel has too much light. But to be fair and square to the experiment, just add 3 solars cells/panels in series and directly connect them to a motor.
@@euvo_sound you are somewhat correct. I powered a Thomas and friends train, and it took 5 panels for full speed
Your 9.89 volts is actually a little low. When rectifying AC to DC, you need to multiply the AC voltage by 1.41 to get the DC voltage, so with a 9v AC adapter, you will see around 12.7VDC on the DC side of the rectifier. When running DC through the rectifier, you will see the incoming DC voltage, less the forward voltage drop of the conducting diodes, so you could safely feed 12VDC into it all day long. A 12V sealed lead acid battery worth work great.
Do you mean we're using a FOOL BREEDGE RECTIFAIYA to convert the AC input to DC? (yes, I watch ElectroBOOM regularly)
No, you multiply by 1.41 to get the *peak* voltage. You will still get ~9V RMS (minus diode drop) on the output side if it's unfiltered. The NES is filtered so you will get a roughly steady DC voltage of 9V minus two diode drops.
@@skipfred no, my formula is correct, and every measurement I’ve ever made confirms it.
@@Si1983h Lol well, it's not but okay. Just look at the output waveform for an unfiltered full-bridge rectifier and it's immediately obvious that you're wrong.
@@skipfred but it is filtered, you’re not looking at a waveform, you’re looking at a DC voltage. Stop trying to be obtuse.
It'd be interesting to chronicle the effects of the batteries dying on various NES games. Could get some cool screenshots out of it, I'd imagine.
8:41
Rechargeable batteries: am i a joke to you?
You'll still need a socket :(
Well there not that much
2:37 "like a human centipede"
yikes lmao
So if it requires 9 volts could you run it off a single 9 volt battery
Yep you absolutely could... for not very long but it would work
Back in the day I wouldn't have mind this due to the fact how monstrous the plug-ins were on this and Sega consoles
you are seriously a hidden gem. you have great production quallity and very funny! you should definitely be more popular. You sir, just gained a new subscriber!
For the love of Super Mario himself, please tell me what is the music at 6:44!
10:20 i'm wondering even more
It's nostalgic although I never heard it before
It kinda sounds like a sonic level song but idk
Can you do this with a snes or a n64 too i wanna see what they look like on low power
n64 would probably look like you are tilting the cartridge
I did a similar test with my PSone and LCD. It worked, but had comparable battery life to a Game Gear because the backlight is the same fluorescent tech
It would reset itself anytime the lid was closed once the batteries got low too, I think if the power was regulated it would help a lot
Hey mattkc, do you have the full recording of the nes video degrading, i need to overlay everywhere at the end of time on it
Me: I need to sleep
Also me at 4:20 AM: _I NEED ANSWERS, NOT SLEEP_
The meme was "I don't need sleep, I need answers!"
4:16 I like how you're playing Space Queens from the cancelled Sonic Xtreme for the Sega Saturn in the background.
Damn good song!
Batteries do drop in voltage as they're used. This is actually how the amount of stored energy left is measured.
@Phillip_HanBurst THANK YOU, this is the proper equation:
850x9/60x850=108 (AKA 1h and 8mins) for the lifetime
or an easier way to think of it:
MaH Rating(X)Input Voltage(/)1 Hour or 60(X)or(/)Output Load = Rated Discharge time before none operational
What you Calculated(MattKC) is for how much battery is left? even @Phillip_HanBurst Noticed, anyone else NOT gonna ask why he calculated the Power Left in the battery? he litterly did 850/850=1 (You didnt even use any time calculation)
sideNote: you divided 850 by 850 XD?
Someone didn't watch the entire video before posting... -_- ... He literally says this EXACTLY near the end.
@@Cooe. your fault for reading a year old comment
@@philiphanhurst2655 shut up
What if you ran several of the battery holders together in parallel? Would that create a bigger capacity without increasing the voltage?
Back in the day, I would power it with an old car battery since i had no way of getting an adapter. Watching your video explained why after days of playing the graphics were getting blur. I thought that the cartridge were dirty or were degraded. Now i see that all i had to do was recharge the old battery. Nice video by the way.
3:43 that does look like 1900mAH
Stupid
Are you stupid, dumb, or stupid?
"like a human centipede" whoa slow down WHAT!!!
The footage at the end would make good footage for some kind of creepypasta.
11:15 That glitches maby caused by the decayed (underpowered) OAM?
We used to run ours directly from the 12v plug in the motorhome along with a cheap lcd tv. The internal voltage regulator takes care of the few extra volts without any issue and with a 5kwh battery bank we never worried about how long we played. Good times.
My dad and I did something similar years ago with a 9v battery.
How do you not have more views?
You're profile pic says it all
I'm enjoying the classic tracks in the background.
1. (I knew this but I forgot, the title read "Dance Music")
2. ?
3. Rain Eater
4. Contraduct Design
5. Spock's Cryo-Bed
6. BRD Keygen 14 (LHS/DFS)
7. ?
8. ?
Let me know of other songs I didn't identify correctly.
7. Class Cracktro #5 (Maktone)
I'm not sure of the order, but I know one of the songs is Space Queens from Sonic Xtreme
That maktone track.. memories
I'm curious why the 7805 didn't just drop off once the voltage got below ~7.5. I'd be interested to see the regulator output on a scope. I wonder if some power was drawn through the video connector after a certain point or if the composite signal somehow caused feedback noise to corrupt the images
Huh, some time ago I ran a Sega Master System through a variable power supply and when the power gets too low (anything below 7.5 volts causes the system to get increasingly unstable) the system locks up but like the CPU halts, it could be because the variable power supply quickly moves to a new selected voltage. Still you'd have the system just locked up before its output goes out.
yes you can end the bast way is to connect 5V directly after voltage regulator 7805
You should turn this into a series on what systems you can run of batteries.
all of them. It's just a question of how many batteries and does it require bypassing the normal power plug in some complicated way.
Ashley Williams is correct. All of them. We can even go further and say *all* electronics can be powered by batteries (some would require some additional help, however (like capacitors or whatever)). It just simply becomes a matter of economics and practicality at that point.
11:10 So that's where creepypasta inspiration comes from...
when the batteries where dying it went dr mario creepypasta mode, like a haunted game
I did this in 1988. How the heck did you guys take it on long vacation drives with you?
with out watching the video. yes you can easy. i modded an nes to run off usb so battries are easy :P but i would do D cells not AA
@davidevgen you can big this magic box for $150 that powers the nes and tv and for an extra $100 you can harness that power of the sun God instead of charging the box from the mains. Overall you save thousands using this method then the alternative.
@@ghostunix731 or i could get a big battery bank for like 50 dollars.
@@Davidevgen Sure a power bank is basically a deep cell so you can connect the usb in series to the nes.
USB however is 5 volts, so you'll need almost double that for the NES to run.
Do you prefer your girlfriends in series or parallel?
Human Cenepede - “mughughum”
at about 9:00 in that is definitely the Spyro: Year Of The Dragon - Paradox Crack Intro Theme lol
This is insane that this would work. A car battery ad came up after your nes red light dimmed out.
"Yknow all this plastic is probably great for the environment"
**Is opening batteries to waste**
2:50 Wrong, no matter the connection, overall energy that battery pack could give would sum up the same way. The series connection just increases voltage, what ables you to use more power aka draw more current. If you connect 6 AA batteries in parallel and use DC-DC voltage amplifier to 9V and 6 AA batteries in series to 9V. They "run off" in exact same time (assuming no heat losses and 100% efficient DC-DC)
I appreciate the inclusion of "Space Queens"
You should try: "Can you run SNES from AA Batteries"
This oughta be a fun one to watch..
MATTKC WE WANNA SEE THIS PLEASE DO THIS!! :)
I wanna see it on the n64, curious how the 3d stuff would start breaking on low voltage
@@VDavid003 for a start the n64 had several different voltage inputs.. for sure theres a 3.3v reference as well as I think 9v
@@adventureoflinkmk2 Interesting, I've never had a 64, only a SNES so yeah.
How did you connect NES video output to the LCD PC monitor?
I always wanted to do that, but I don't know how did you achieve this sharpness and crispness of image with composite video to VGA converter.
I suppose that you might have very expensive, high-end composite to VGA converter.
What model do you have?
5:49 There's no problem with 10 volts because that's the voltage without any load. Considering that the NES worked for 1.5 hours on the 6 batteries, the voltage likely dropped to 8 volts when you turned it on.
2:24 the 9VAC adapter technically a sine wave at 50Hz and 9V RMS, so the peak voltage is 9*sqrt(2), or about 12.728V. So you would technically need between 8 and 9 batteries (both should be safe, as the transformers in the original adapters can have small errors, and the voltage is converted to 5V later anyways).
Can I run a PS5 from AA batteries?
Next up: "Could you run a monitor from lemons and potatoes?"
What would happen if you had two packs of six AA’s in series, and then connected those in parallel? Would that double the capacity or just start a fire?
I saw the title and was like "Yes you can but not for very long. I've seen a video just like this a while ago." then realized this is that very same video.
This is actually so sad, it reminds me of my great-grandparents.
My dad did this when he was a kid, but he used 2 lantern batteries and a mini TV that ran on D cells
When I was 14 i made a mobile PS2 with a PS2 slim, a tiny LCD panel and 2 18650 cells
There was nothing quite like playing GTA San Andreas on the school bus while everyone else had a gameboy or one of those tiger electronic games
So you did something like this? th-cam.com/video/QbJBo2wlX80/w-d-xo.html
@@Kitulous similar, but mine was able to use discs, had a messiah modchip for playing burned games, used the original controllers, and supported multiplayer
It was basically a PS2 slim with a fold up screen mounted on top of it and a battery pack taped to it, it was not as portable as the one in that video, but I could still use it as a regular PS2 by unplugging the screen and battery pack, then plugging it into the mains and my TV
More like a Nintendo switch but instead of joycons you only have a pro controller
Now try to power the tv with batteries too
Playing video games in the apocalypse
10:20 did somebody know how music are playing in the Background?
Could you power with a single 9v or 3 in parallel for longer performance?