Wow! This literally matches my own mystical reflections/experiences as of late, only far more developed and clearly articulated. (No doubt this channel is having an impact on me; much thanks).
I've been grappling with what I believe, a deistic "force" vs a personal God. I'm so glad I found your character. Your videos explain salvation, attonment, and the trinity in the best way possible for me. I will be reflecting on this and your other videos.
I’m so lucky I found this channel, this describes my experience of “finding” God. He showed me creation and let me speak to my mom who’s been dead for 15 years. There was such an overwhelming amount of love that I was genuinely scared of what might happened if I received it. My life had changed so much for the better since then. God bless you, keep making content this is awesome!
Woa ... thank you so much for making this video! It made heaven and hell SO much more immediate and real to me !!! Absolutely obvious like never before... Thank God for letting me understand this while i can ! I dont know if you put it so comprehensively or i was just given it at a very right time but SO much was pulled together for me !!! One of the most unexpected key pieces that was one of the most transformational for me... I will definitely meditate on this A LOT. Thank you so much!!! May your whole experience Truly come to be glorified with God's meaning and Love when you enter eternity ♡ Adam
This is fantastic!!! Universal retroactive salvation. The quote from St Sophrony about the ontological unity of mankind reminds me of the many places St Gregory of Nyssa writes about the "one human nature". C.S. Lewis talks about this too in Mere Christianity in the Toy Soldier chapter. I know it's not a doctrine of the church (Orthodox), but it seems if you take the ideas of Saints Sophrony, Gregory, Maximus and Isaac the Syrian, the logical conclusion is what St Irenaeus wrote: "For inasmuch as He [Christ] had a pre-existence as a saving Being, it was necessary that what might be saved [mankind] should also be called into existence, in order that the Being who saves should not exist in vain." Seems reasonable to assume we were created to be saved. Christ's incarnation is the yeast that leavens the whole human lump, raising us up like the Eucharist prosphora. (Just to be clear, this is hopeful, not dogmatic, like when we pray the Kneeling Prayers of Pentecost.)
Ok, I am struggling everyone and need help.. I basically agree with everything orthodox EXCEPT praying you Mary and saints.. I love them and can’t wait to meet them in glory, but I can’t see a place where prayer isn’t worship, even if you say well it just asking them to intercede for has, how they intercede is through prayer.. your asking Mary and the saints to worship for you?? We are all Christian brothers and sisters, I love you all as such but this seems like idolatry.. God please show me mercy in my lack of understanding. Please point me in the right direction to figure this out.thank you
This notion points to the filioque hardcore. The Holy Spirit is the eternal personal love that proceeds from the Father to the Son and is instantaniously reciprocated in eternity in a personal manner by the Son proceeding thus from the Son also to the Father, making the Holy Spirit the Person of Love between Father and Son.
@@joseephkhoury9420 not at all my friend, hypostatic “manifestation” is an idea that only comes about when you separate God’s activity with God’s essence, but the essence of God is his one perfect and simple activity/energy of being who he is (the most Holy Trinity). The distinction only occurs in creation, since creation are acts/energies by participation, the creature’s essence is a coarctation/finite limitation of the one infinite energy/pure act of God in a specific mode and grade, so in the creature the essence is the particular coarctation given by God + the participated act that is given by God to that coarctation/created essence, the bifurcation is a metaphysical bifurcation that separates the created from the creator, and in the creature his essence and his energy/activity are really distinct… If the procession of the Spirit is happening eternally and the reciprocating is also eternal, then the procession is eternally from both hypostatically. In God each hypostasis is not given by distinct essential features of the persons (that would separate God and make him a composite), but they are only a relational distinction, so each hypostasis is basically a subsisting relation. To defend the monarchy of the Father you simply need to understand that he is the only one who is not begotten nor spirated by anyone, so he has Primacy in that sense, but that it’s a relational distinction, so the procession of the Spirit comes from the Son also not because the Son is also unbegotten but because as begotten he is doing the same one activity of the Father, so he is spirating the one and only Spirit that proceeds from the unbegotten one to the begotten one, only completing the relational essence of God thus giving hypostatic reality (subsisting relation) to the Holy Spirit.
This only points to the Filioque if you want to see the Filioque in there. Nothing in what's presented here necessitates what you've said This is even aside from it having very problematic theological implications for the Trinity
@@RevengeOfIjapa in the video he speaks about the instantanious eternal reciprocation of love of the Son to the Father, this happens in a perfect, intensive and personal manner in eternity, so the love of the Father to the Son and from the Son to the Father is a personal one, and that person of Love that is shared by both is the Holy Spirit, and it's not an energetic procession or a manifestation, but a hypostatic reality, the difference lies in the fact that the Father is unbegotten so he spirates underivatively, and the Son does it derivatively because his essence that allows him to spirate back the same Spirit was given by the Father, you can read my answer above.
@@irodjetson all these statements about (love, wisdom, glory...etc) are manifestations of the person's of the Trinity and how their unity is not just in terms of essence but such manifestations. So when the Son is described as the wisdom and Logos of God or the Father, that points to his manifestation and role as the wisdom and Logos, that does not mean the Father and Spirit are not wise, for such is the economy of the Son, same with the Spirit when called the Spirit of Love, that's the economy of the Spirit, and the reciprocation of such manifestations or energies are shared by the three hypostases. And the love of the Father through the Son in the Homy Spirit is simply the economy of the Trinity; the Father is the source the Son is the means, and in the Spirit they find their completion, so it has nothing to do with the filuoque. The Father is the sole principle and cause (in the loose analogical sense) of the Hypostasis of the Son and Spirit.
Cool incoherent word salad - but at the end of the day no god answers prayers, nothing in the world changed because of the supposed incarnation, and mystical practices like consuming the eucharist and others are still just ordinary naturalistic events. There is a lot of hyping up, grandiosity, and exaltation of various practices going on, but nothing in the world reflects that, for example supposed marriage between Christ and the Church resulting in overall behavior indistinguishable from that predicted by naturalism. This kind of theology is a barren fig tree full of pizzazz and promise without fruit. This is why people don't believe, because Christianity didn't live up to the intellectual hype.
As someone forced to attend a Prosperity/Pentecostal/Dispensationalist/Baptist church, let me say that this is one of the Best videos I have seen.
It's refreshing to see something other than groveling to Elon musk, and his many child bearers that he dates.
Ouch, sorry you have to suffer that.
Wow! This literally matches my own mystical reflections/experiences as of late, only far more developed and clearly articulated. (No doubt this channel is having an impact on me; much thanks).
I've been grappling with what I believe, a deistic "force" vs a personal God. I'm so glad I found your character. Your videos explain salvation, attonment, and the trinity in the best way possible for me. I will be reflecting on this and your other videos.
Glory to God!
I’m so lucky I found this channel, this describes my experience of “finding” God. He showed me creation and let me speak to my mom who’s been dead for 15 years. There was such an overwhelming amount of love that I was genuinely scared of what might happened if I received it. My life had changed so much for the better since then. God bless you, keep making content this is awesome!
Woa ... thank you so much for making this video! It made heaven and hell SO much more immediate and real to me !!! Absolutely obvious like never before... Thank God for letting me understand this while i can ! I dont know if you put it so comprehensively or i was just given it at a very right time but SO much was pulled together for me !!!
One of the most unexpected key pieces that was one of the most transformational for me...
I will definitely meditate on this A LOT.
Thank you so much!!!
May your whole experience Truly come to be glorified with God's meaning and Love when you enter eternity ♡
Adam
Haha just realized that my loose threads were pulled together by telos-bound :D
Absolutely beautiful video and very refreshing. Essentially a summary of the history and purpose of the world.
As someone who wishes they didn't exist pretty often, the ending hit a bit hard for me. Thank you.
My dryer makes the same sound 13:50
Mine does too
Our faith is beautiful.
This is enlightening! Great vid.
Hold on, I don't see the florenskian youtube link in the description?
do you have any injunctions with eastern catholicism?
Where's this other video that Nate mentioned he'd drop the link to? This was truth
This is fantastic!!!
Universal retroactive salvation. The quote from St Sophrony about the ontological unity of mankind reminds me of the many places St Gregory of Nyssa writes about the "one human nature". C.S. Lewis talks about this too in Mere Christianity in the Toy Soldier chapter. I know it's not a doctrine of the church (Orthodox), but it seems if you take the ideas of Saints Sophrony, Gregory, Maximus and Isaac the Syrian, the logical conclusion is what St Irenaeus wrote: "For inasmuch as He [Christ] had a pre-existence as a saving Being, it was necessary that what might be saved [mankind] should also be called into existence, in order that the Being who saves should not exist in vain."
Seems reasonable to assume we were created to be saved. Christ's incarnation is the yeast that leavens the whole human lump, raising us up like the Eucharist prosphora. (Just to be clear, this is hopeful, not dogmatic, like when we pray the Kneeling Prayers of Pentecost.)
Thanks for the thoughts! Nice connections.
wow!
How'd you move from 20k to 40k+ subs overnight?
So before the fall man still lived in time right?
Ok, I am struggling everyone and need help.. I basically agree with everything orthodox EXCEPT praying you Mary and saints.. I love them and can’t wait to meet them in glory, but I can’t see a place where prayer isn’t worship, even if you say well it just asking them to intercede for has, how they intercede is through prayer.. your asking Mary and the saints to worship for you?? We are all Christian brothers and sisters, I love you all as such but this seems like idolatry.. God please show me mercy in my lack of understanding. Please point me in the right direction to figure this out.thank you
Enjoy much. Am blessed. But you need to practice the art of vocal pausing.
This notion points to the filioque hardcore. The Holy Spirit is the eternal personal love that proceeds from the Father to the Son and is instantaniously reciprocated in eternity in a personal manner by the Son proceeding thus from the Son also to the Father, making the Holy Spirit the Person of Love between Father and Son.
I think you are confusing hypostatic origin with hypostatic manifestations.
@@joseephkhoury9420 not at all my friend, hypostatic “manifestation” is an idea that only comes about when you separate God’s activity with God’s essence, but the essence of God is his one perfect and simple activity/energy of being who he is (the most Holy Trinity). The distinction only occurs in creation, since creation are acts/energies by participation, the creature’s essence is a coarctation/finite limitation of the one infinite energy/pure act of God in a specific mode and grade, so in the creature the essence is the particular coarctation given by God + the participated act that is given by God to that coarctation/created essence, the bifurcation is a metaphysical bifurcation that separates the created from the creator, and in the creature his essence and his energy/activity are really distinct… If the procession of the Spirit is happening eternally and the reciprocating is also eternal, then the procession is eternally from both hypostatically. In God each hypostasis is not given by distinct essential features of the persons (that would separate God and make him a composite), but they are only a relational distinction, so each hypostasis is basically a subsisting relation. To defend the monarchy of the Father you simply need to understand that he is the only one who is not begotten nor spirated by anyone, so he has Primacy in that sense, but that it’s a relational distinction, so the procession of the Spirit comes from the Son also not because the Son is also unbegotten but because as begotten he is doing the same one activity of the Father, so he is spirating the one and only Spirit that proceeds from the unbegotten one to the begotten one, only completing the relational essence of God thus giving hypostatic reality (subsisting relation) to the Holy Spirit.
This only points to the Filioque if you want to see the Filioque in there. Nothing in what's presented here necessitates what you've said
This is even aside from it having very problematic theological implications for the Trinity
@@RevengeOfIjapa in the video he speaks about the instantanious eternal reciprocation of love of the Son to the Father, this happens in a perfect, intensive and personal manner in eternity, so the love of the Father to the Son and from the Son to the Father is a personal one, and that person of Love that is shared by both is the Holy Spirit, and it's not an energetic procession or a manifestation, but a hypostatic reality, the difference lies in the fact that the Father is unbegotten so he spirates underivatively, and the Son does it derivatively because his essence that allows him to spirate back the same Spirit was given by the Father, you can read my answer above.
@@irodjetson all these statements about (love, wisdom, glory...etc) are manifestations of the person's of the Trinity and how their unity is not just in terms of essence but such manifestations. So when the Son is described as the wisdom and Logos of God or the Father, that points to his manifestation and role as the wisdom and Logos, that does not mean the Father and Spirit are not wise, for such is the economy of the Son, same with the Spirit when called the Spirit of Love, that's the economy of the Spirit, and the reciprocation of such manifestations or energies are shared by the three hypostases.
And the love of the Father through the Son in the Homy Spirit is simply the economy of the Trinity; the Father is the source the Son is the means, and in the Spirit they find their completion, so it has nothing to do with the filuoque.
The Father is the sole principle and cause (in the loose analogical sense) of the Hypostasis of the Son and Spirit.
Cool incoherent word salad - but at the end of the day no god answers prayers, nothing in the world changed because of the supposed incarnation, and mystical practices like consuming the eucharist and others are still just ordinary naturalistic events. There is a lot of hyping up, grandiosity, and exaltation of various practices going on, but nothing in the world reflects that, for example supposed marriage between Christ and the Church resulting in overall behavior indistinguishable from that predicted by naturalism. This kind of theology is a barren fig tree full of pizzazz and promise without fruit. This is why people don't believe, because Christianity didn't live up to the intellectual hype.