@@Dark-Pikachu1 Oh really? Since when is Pokemon sun gen 8, because that was the last time "elephant" was used in raichu's dex entry. In PLA it used copperajah and SwSh and BDSP didn't even reference the OG entry.
@@LycanMOON Legends: Arceus It can discharge bursts of electricity exceeding 100,000 volts-a single strike with that amount of power would incapacitate one of the Copperajah of my homeland.
@@LycanMOONthat’s why they say it was retconned, the dex entry in sun isn’t talking about copperajah because they hadn’t made it yet, but pla does because that’s when they made the change. you just have to use your mind to replace elephant with copperajah now.
@@RyanNerdyGamer oh Thats a good point! I forgot about zooplankton. I remember algae, archae and bacteria that make up part of the marine plankton, but forgot zooplankton. Plankton is a weird category
IIRC, originally, the idea of the pokemon world was that animals existed as normal, but there were also monsters. But the whole "everything is pokemon," idea kinda took over. So you still end up with a lot of references and appearances of regular animals in the old stuff
the idea was that Pokémon only been on earth for at least 200 years in the early days which explains why characters like prof elm were surprised by Pokémon eggs existing. but was changed because gen 3 tells us that Pokémon been around human for millions of years.
I was going to comment the same thing. It's also consistent with South America being mentioned in the journals about Mew. It was originally just supposed to be a sort of near future where the world was normal, but there were also Pokémon.
Problem with your theory is old stuff is subjective. How many generations back count as old stuff? People have said for a long time there are no normal animals but x and y was made after they started distancing themselfs from normal animals and yet it still contains butter flys. Not in the footage but still it does have butterfly's And Scarlet and Violet have a dish that features a muscle which is a type of normal animal. So while there are a lot of pokemon there are also a lot of normal animals. They just arnt the focus of the game.
@@YD_. so they kill and slaughter the pokemon and then eat their flesh? (if this is actually what happens and its normal in that universe im sorry, last piece of pokemon media i consumed was like that anime 10 yrs ago but my shorts are full w pokemon content rn)
@@justacookie918 Now that I think about, when a sawsbuck dies, the flowers/leaves probably just wilt and eventually fall off, making it look like a regular deer. If taxidermy is a thing in the Pokémon universe, do you think people attach fake flowers/leaves to any sawsbuck that get mounted on the wall?
@@thejohnson2328 it's a joke. It's from pov of a pokemon trainer who reads the pokedex and doesn't know what a chameleon is because they don't exist in their world
Also in the episode with the Eeveelution Brothers, when Team Rocket crashes the party, some of the food they start gorging themselves on is lobsters and crawdads if I recall correctly.
I mean it probably depends, while most large fauna are probably extinct due to like super-predator pokemon like Zangoose, Pyroar, Persian, etc. It's feasible that most small to medium animals could exist, along with bugs, because the Pokemon that hunt them aren't much more of a problem then what hunts them in real life. Also most Pokemon under level like 8 or 10 when they start getting actually powerful moves still probably get eaten by normal hunter animals
@@karuko4072 i mean yea he said that but the cerulean gym was the first time most viewers were confused about if normal animals existed in pokemon. Also it was the biggest display of normal animals from any episode. It’s too big to just be excluded.
I was expecting most to be old and the point that we got butterflies in gen 6 and dinosaur mention in gen 9 clearly means that either the company ain't trying to keep a secret or *There Is Lore*
I'm thinking they're actually referring to dinosaur Pokemon in the Paradox Form's entries, and that the butterflies in Gen 6's battle scene is actually just distant Vivillion/Butterfree/Beautifly
wild theory, pokemon is a post-apocolyptic world, no1 ages and the animals have fantastic powers due to mutations brought on by the radiation of nuclear fallout.
"Show me the most normal gym leader" >Larry "I said _show me the most normal gym leader._ " >Trainer with a party full of regular ass animals "Perfection."
Early in Pokémon‘s development, they initially decided that Pokémon with coexist alongside real world animals, but then they decided that they wanted the Pokémon to be the animals of that world. And so, you will notice that references the real world. Animals are most noticeable in the earliest GEN material. But a newer games and anime you don’t really have those references, other than classification in Pokédex entries. Such as Meowth being a cat Pokémon.
We know the world still has animals in it though. Muscles appear in Violet and Scarlet. They mention butterfly's and flys also in that game. They have distanced themselfs from animals but we know for a fact that animals still exist in their world.
Fun fact, originally the chief writer for the Pokemon anime (Takeshi Shudo) wanted the 3rd Pokemon movie to be about a T-rex or some ancient dinosaur coming back to life and causing havoc upon the region and one of the main topics/questions that the movie would’ve been about was what happened to all the real world animals before Pokemon took over. Source: DYKG on one of their episodes. Edit: A video by Normal Boots titled “The lost Pokemon movie about an actual Dinosaur” goes more in-depth about it as well.
@@spoon7053 To be fair most of the Pokemon where a lot more grounded back then, I 100% can believe pokemon like Tauros are getting fucked up by a T-rex.
@@kzarkage It’s a question of resemblance. In terms of real-world fish, O.P. posits that it resembles a bass, whereas I see it as closer to a barracuda in design. 🤷🏻♂️ Although looking closer it looks more like a marlin to me. Now _that_ would be an awesome marine Pokémon inspo… 😎
Animals being in Pokémon is interesting. I think it originally meant that they didn't want people to think Pokémon are eaten at least for physical appearances. For dex entries and statements, it could be a form of classification.
I always remember that there are real fish in a fish tank in that episode with the giant Tentacruel because of an animation error. One fish starts outside the tank and swims in
Those butterflies in X and Y’s background seemed more like floating cherry blossoms, or pink petals. Unless I’m missing them I don’t see butterflies there personally
In the first anime, I’m pretty sure in the ship episode where ash and misty (can’t remember if Brock is there) are on a ship and it goes into the ocean and from what I remember you can see fish swimming through some windows when they’re underwater.
I believe in the world, the difference between animals and Pokémon must be that Pokémon can go inside poker balls and they can do special abnormal moves that unleash powerful energy
It was my head canon that all the real animals they mentioned in the games and everything were mythical creatures, like the Minotaur or dragons are to us. Kind of goes along with the whole “the Pokédex is written by children” theory.
"Hello, good sir. I do apologize, but the wife and I have already inhabited this cave in order to hibernate for the winter." --A regular bear about to be hyper beamed.
I love that Pokémon were in lore, originally just extremely rare, extremely powerful animals, and that the Pokémon anime/ games is just later in our timeline somehow
this may suggest that pokemons are either a specific type of "monster" creatures who may have been able to clear the other animals from their world only leaving some.... Or pokemons may be a superior version of the previously existing animals/creatures which have gone through evolution to get their current forms, while the other animals/creatures remained the same or evolved like the animals from the real world.
I always assumed the dinosaurs thing is referring to fossil Pokémon? But I haven’t played much of Legends yet so I don’t know the context. This short is super interesting, I always wondered about animals in the Pokémon world!
You would think that Pokémon stood in the place of ALL ANIMALS. For example, Pyroar for lions, Octoloct for octopus, pikachu for mice,Tyrantrum for tyrannosaurus-
Bro I swear I remember in the original anime when either ash sinks to the bottom of the ocean, goes to misty's gym or goes to an aquarium there are a bunch of fish that are not pokemon.
With the paradox dinosaurs,they’re probably just referring to dinosaur pokemon,although with aerodactyl I wouldn’t be surprised if it was referring to a Dinosaur considering how gen 1 was with real animals
Also when the ss Anne toppled over in the anime, ash saw fish swimming around. I remember as a kid I realized that was the first time I saw animals in the anime
I imagine all of the gen 1 references were due to not enough Pokemon, because we know now most real animals can be replaced by something. i.e. Miltank, Zangoos/Yangoos, Sawsbuck, Carvanha, Dracovish, Kecleon, Copperjah.
Notably the Indian elephant references have been retconned into copperaja.
Raichu's pokedex entry was even reused in PLA save for that 1 detail.
No I look in Gen 8 it still said Elephant
@@Dark-Pikachu1 Oh really? Since when is Pokemon sun gen 8, because that was the last time "elephant" was used in raichu's dex entry. In PLA it used copperajah and SwSh and BDSP didn't even reference the OG entry.
@@dxjxc91 while yes only the sun entry mentions an elephant,there's nothing to indicate that copperajah was the elephant in question
@@LycanMOON Legends: Arceus It can discharge bursts of electricity exceeding 100,000 volts-a single strike with that amount of power would incapacitate one of the Copperajah of my homeland.
@@LycanMOONthat’s why they say it was retconned, the dex entry in sun isn’t talking about copperajah because they hadn’t made it yet, but pla does because that’s when they made the change. you just have to use your mind to replace elephant with copperajah now.
Those butterflies from Gen 6… I’m pretty sure they are just flower petals being tossed in the wind
That was my assumption, too… 🤷🏻♂️
@@RyanNerdyGamer and plankton aren’t animals 😂
@@PokemonAdventures009 It depends. Zooplankton are animals, whereas phytoplankton are plants. 🧑🏻🏫
@@RyanNerdyGamer oh Thats a good point! I forgot about zooplankton. I remember algae, archae and bacteria that make up part of the marine plankton, but forgot zooplankton. Plankton is a weird category
I must have gotten the wrong footage then because there is apparently butterflies somewhere 😂
Forgot the most obvious one. When a Pokémon is confused, non-Pokémon birds circle around them
Yeah, ducks, you're right
Altho from what I remember, Gen 3 or 4 beyond featured pokemons in those confused animation.
Those are rubber duckies tho
@@pumpkin6192 which are based on ducks and not a duck type Pokemon
Related note, Pyduck rubber ducks sounds so cute
IIRC, originally, the idea of the pokemon world was that animals existed as normal, but there were also monsters. But the whole "everything is pokemon," idea kinda took over. So you still end up with a lot of references and appearances of regular animals in the old stuff
the idea was that Pokémon only been on earth for at least 200 years in the early days which explains why characters like prof elm were surprised by Pokémon eggs existing. but was changed because gen 3 tells us that Pokémon been around human for millions of years.
@@mikeval1525 I mean we had Kabutops ,lord helix and Aerodactyl in gen 1 so we always knew Pokémon have existed for millions of years even back then
@@ZombieB1 to be fair those were just fossils that were brought back using Pokemon DNA
I was going to comment the same thing. It's also consistent with South America being mentioned in the journals about Mew.
It was originally just supposed to be a sort of near future where the world was normal, but there were also Pokémon.
Problem with your theory is old stuff is subjective. How many generations back count as old stuff?
People have said for a long time there are no normal animals but x and y was made after they started distancing themselfs from normal animals and yet it still contains butter flys. Not in the footage but still it does have butterfly's
And Scarlet and Violet have a dish that features a muscle which is a type of normal animal.
So while there are a lot of pokemon there are also a lot of normal animals.
They just arnt the focus of the game.
Based on dialogue in Scarlet and Violet, not all living creatures meet the criteria of being a Pokémon.
That's what I've been thinking. Like tiny insects do exist alongside bug type Pokemon.
ok but like... we never see any cows or pigs or anything so where does the meat etc come from (assuming they eat meat n shi)
@@bojuu miltank and lechonk?
Edit: also Tauros, and seafood like magikarp, veluza, clawitzer, krabby, klawf
@@YD_. so they kill and slaughter the pokemon and then eat their flesh? (if this is actually what happens and its normal in that universe im sorry, last piece of pokemon media i consumed was like that anime 10 yrs ago but my shorts are full w pokemon content rn)
@@bojuu there's a fish pokemon in the new game that will sometimes lose its fins, that's what they eat.
Plot twist it wasn’t a deer, it was a spring form sawsbuck 👀
Yea they removed the flowers from their heads
More like winter form
@@justacookie918 Now that I think about, when a sawsbuck dies, the flowers/leaves probably just wilt and eventually fall off, making it look like a regular deer. If taxidermy is a thing in the Pokémon universe, do you think people attach fake flowers/leaves to any sawsbuck that get mounted on the wall?
@@sparrowpelt20xx61 and change the leaves for the current season, lol
It may also be wyrdeer
“Lickitung can extend its tongue like a chameleon”
“The fucks a chameleon??”
It's a kind of lizard
It’s a real animal
Kecleon
@@thejohnson2328 it's a joke. It's from pov of a pokemon trainer who reads the pokedex and doesn't know what a chameleon is because they don't exist in their world
@@lord_alex12 what's a lizard?
Also in the episode with the Eeveelution Brothers, when Team Rocket crashes the party, some of the food they start gorging themselves on is lobsters and crawdads if I recall correctly.
(Looks at lobster pokemon) sureeeee
@@Iamgayman there were no lobster Pokemon at the time, even now I think the only one is the crawdaunt line.
Imagine being a regular animal in the Pokemon world... Their species would be wiped immediately
Poor humans
@@noopnoodles8920 to be fair, the humans in Pokémon dont seem to be regular either with the amount of times they can survive attacks lol
@egg your right!
@@egg4666 too rocket and ash
I mean it probably depends, while most large fauna are probably extinct due to like super-predator pokemon like Zangoose, Pyroar, Persian, etc. It's feasible that most small to medium animals could exist, along with bugs, because the Pokemon that hunt them aren't much more of a problem then what hunts them in real life. Also most Pokemon under level like 8 or 10 when they start getting actually powerful moves still probably get eaten by normal hunter animals
He forgot fish in the tanks the first time we see the Cerulean city gym.
And all those fish in the giant Tentacruel episode
And under the water in the ss Ann episod
The beginning has a little text saying that he's excluding fish and some others
[Excluding some fish]
@@karuko4072 i mean yea he said that but the cerulean gym was the first time most viewers were confused about if normal animals existed in pokemon. Also it was the biggest display of normal animals from any episode. It’s too big to just be excluded.
I can't unhear "ghastly makes an illusion of among us"
Oh no
Amongoos
Lol
A mongoose is a otter relitave
Amog
Also in Scarlett and Violet, one of the seafood dishes has straight up clams in it.
These are Clamperls
I was expecting most to be old and the point that we got butterflies in gen 6 and dinosaur mention in gen 9 clearly means that either the company ain't trying to keep a secret or *There Is Lore*
Don't encourage matpat
I'm thinking they're actually referring to dinosaur Pokemon in the Paradox Form's entries, and that the butterflies in Gen 6's battle scene is actually just distant Vivillion/Butterfree/Beautifly
@@cjlite0210 fossil pokemons:
wild theory, pokemon is a post-apocolyptic world, no1 ages and the animals have fantastic powers due to mutations brought on by the radiation of nuclear fallout.
Yeah the gen 6 and 9 ones are weak as hell
Ah yes excecuter my favorite tree pokemon
The executor
Yes
He executered that crab.
When people say “Victorybell” lmao
And this guy also catches male Vespiquens
"Show me the most normal gym leader"
>Larry
"I said _show me the most normal gym leader._ "
>Trainer with a party full of regular ass animals
"Perfection."
The bird just from silhouette has a 99.9% chance of being a pidgey
Or a spearow
Early in Pokémon‘s development, they initially decided that Pokémon with coexist alongside real world animals, but then they decided that they wanted the Pokémon to be the animals of that world. And so, you will notice that references the real world. Animals are most noticeable in the earliest GEN material. But a newer games and anime you don’t really have those references, other than classification in Pokédex entries. Such as Meowth being a cat Pokémon.
We know the world still has animals in it though. Muscles appear in Violet and Scarlet. They mention butterfly's and flys also in that game.
They have distanced themselfs from animals but we know for a fact that animals still exist in their world.
Fun fact, originally the chief writer for the Pokemon anime (Takeshi Shudo) wanted the 3rd Pokemon movie to be about a T-rex or some ancient dinosaur coming back to life and causing havoc upon the region and one of the main topics/questions that the movie would’ve been about was what happened to all the real world animals before Pokemon took over.
Source: DYKG on one of their episodes.
Edit: A video by Normal Boots titled “The lost Pokemon movie about an actual Dinosaur” goes more in-depth about it as well.
crazy that they thought a t rex or any real life animal could be even close to a threat
@@spoon7053 To be fair most of the Pokemon where a lot more grounded back then, I 100% can believe pokemon like Tauros are getting fucked up by a T-rex.
Damn that old card art was just fantastic...
Don’t forget all the references to animals in the pokemon titles in the Pokédex
(Pikachu : the electric mouse pokemon)
Ha. I didn't think about that
And Pikachu is called "The MOUSE Pokémon"
Yes but they mean *REAL* animals, like a normal cow or butterfly. Things that *AREN'T* Pokemon. Did you not listen to what the guy said?
@@shockmazta3116🤦♂️
@@shockmazta3116 dude
@@shockmazta3116 whoa calm down you're not their mean stepdad chill
There were fish seen from the window of the capsized St. Anne (the anime, season 1).
Only took 9 generations but every one of these animals can now be covered by a pokemon
“Vespiquin uses real bees in HIS attacks” ah yes his attack coming from a only female Pokémon (just jokes, all love)
Ash in a cow costume is so adorable 😍
Flutter mane’s entries never mention Dinosaurs. Rather, they mention their closest relatives: Pterosaurs.
The Indian Elephant is Copperajah
I feel like a few of these can be explained away by stories, like ash was wearing a cow costume in the same way some kids would wear a miltank costume
That Oddish card is far to adorable
The bird on the birdkeeper imo looks almost exactly like a shrunk down pidgey
I looked at the eevee card for years and never realized lol
Nice to know there are still some animals that haven’t been replaced by poker mans
And don't forget Ash and "BROKE" ate shrimp in the anime
Ah yes my favourite pokemon companion BROKE
@@cactieythecactus so that’s why he always gets rejected
he spelt brock wrong
You're happy now
@@Clown_DZ yay!
The St. Anne serves Salmon on the menus, so thats another one to the list.
Is it me or does the "real fish" have a huge resemblance to basculin?
Looks more like an Arrokuda to me.
No they didn't plan that all the way back then
@@kzarkage It’s a question of resemblance. In terms of real-world fish, O.P. posits that it resembles a bass, whereas I see it as closer to a barracuda in design. 🤷🏻♂️
Although looking closer it looks more like a marlin to me. Now _that_ would be an awesome marine Pokémon inspo… 😎
Carvahna
My Australian uncle wears a sombrero when he's gardening because it's better than most sun hats due to the brim
Wonder if some of these things are just Pokémon that haven’t been released yet like with copperajah in the raichu dex entry
the most obvious: yellow birds appear over your pokemon when it is confused
Pretty sure there are also fish in that one Indigo League episode after the SS Anne capsizes and Ash looks out the window to see the ocean floor.
Animals being in Pokémon is interesting. I think it originally meant that they didn't want people to think Pokémon are eaten at least for physical appearances.
For dex entries and statements, it could be a form of classification.
Another interesting Short video. I really enjoyed it
I always remember that there are real fish in a fish tank in that episode with the giant Tentacruel because of an animation error. One fish starts outside the tank and swims in
Those butterflies in X and Y’s background seemed more like floating cherry blossoms, or pink petals. Unless I’m missing them I don’t see butterflies there personally
i don't think that those are cherry blossoms, cause where are they coming from then?
I'd always assumed that there were actual animals in the world at one point or another, but most of the references to that have been changed
Ash: Who's that pokemon?
Prof. Oak: It's an electric mouse pokemon. Pikachu!
Ash: What's a mouse, professor?
Prof. Oak: I have no idea.
The time when team rocket captures the remoraid, you could see so many real fish in the aquarium
I'm pretty sure those "butterflies" were flower petles in the wind
I remember Misty’s gym had aquarium fishes.
Pretty sure the tail biting Slowpoke is just an early design of Basculin
Or Carvahna
Are there animals in the Pokemon world?
Gamefreak: yesn’t
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nuh uh
You can only do it when you get a lot of likes kiddo
Its only 200 likes mate
Why are y'all acting like 200 likes isn't a lot
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In the first anime, I’m pretty sure in the ship episode where ash and misty (can’t remember if Brock is there) are on a ship and it goes into the ocean and from what I remember you can see fish swimming through some windows when they’re underwater.
So canonically, most large animals are gone, but all invertebrates and small animals seem to still be there
They should make a tiny worm pokemon at this point like it's just an earthworm and it doesn't evolve
What about the episodes where they go to the safari zone? I remember seeing bigger birds in Pokémon show
Pidgeot, Fearow?
If you're going to add pokédex entries you got a whole lot more that you missed
Bro imagine being able to be casually on fire and you’re like “Nah imma Cow”
the reference to dinosaurs could easily just mean dinosaur pokémon, like tyrantrum or bastiodon
"a mongoose" i- i cant
I Remember In One Episode Some Kid Had A Regular Dog And Not A Dog Pokémon.
Also i remember seeing lobsters in the first season when they board the ship (how could I forget it's name 💀)
I believe in the world, the difference between animals and Pokémon must be that Pokémon can go inside poker balls and they can do special abnormal moves that unleash powerful energy
It was my head canon that all the real animals they mentioned in the games and everything were mythical creatures, like the Minotaur or dragons are to us.
Kind of goes along with the whole “the Pokédex is written by children” theory.
Imagine just being a regular ass animal in the Pokemon world.
"Hello, good sir. I do apologize, but the wife and I have already inhabited this cave in order to hibernate for the winter." --A regular bear about to be hyper beamed.
Cats were also hinted at existing when Bulbasaur sniffed pokenip.
Meowth makes reference to "leaving your cat to watch your canary".
A lot of these foreshadowed a lot of future Pokémon.
I love that Pokémon were in lore, originally just extremely rare, extremely powerful animals, and that the Pokémon anime/ games is just later in our timeline somehow
The bird on the arm of the bird trainer is a Pidgey.
The first "Butterflies" in battle background are petals.
I think the dinos referred to in the paradox mons dex entries are just past pokemon
this may suggest that pokemons are either a specific type of "monster" creatures who may have been able to clear the other animals from their world only leaving some....
Or pokemons may be a superior version of the previously existing animals/creatures which have gone through evolution to get their current forms, while the other animals/creatures remained the same or evolved like the animals from the real world.
When introducing Misty's family. They look at aquarium full of fish.
I always assumed the dinosaurs thing is referring to fossil Pokémon? But I haven’t played much of Legends yet so I don’t know the context. This short is super interesting, I always wondered about animals in the Pokémon world!
You would think that Pokémon stood in the place of ALL ANIMALS. For example, Pyroar for lions, Octoloct for octopus, pikachu for mice,Tyrantrum for tyrannosaurus-
Bro I swear I remember in the original anime when either ash sinks to the bottom of the ocean, goes to misty's gym or goes to an aquarium there are a bunch of fish that are not pokemon.
the bird on the sprite is probably a pidgy
That Kabutops fighting a giant fish blew my mind as a kid. I thought it was real lol
The worm in Wobbafet one looked like a smiling Weedoe 😂
In misty's gym their is an aquarium filled with real life fish
There is normal fish swimming in a tank in the original season when they are at the cerulean gym
With the paradox dinosaurs,they’re probably just referring to dinosaur pokemon,although with aerodactyl I wouldn’t be surprised if it was referring to a Dinosaur considering how gen 1 was with real animals
Aerodactyl is more Wyrven Than Pterosaur
It makes more sense than people battling a Pokemon just to get a night dinner
You missed the episode where they litterally got an aquarium in the background with real life fishes inside
That slowpoke art is obviously a basculin
When a pokemon is confused some yellow birds will fly over its head
There’s also regular fish in the aquarium ash walks past in Misty and her Sisters’ gym!
theres also the birds that fly in circles around the heads of Pokemon during the confusion animation
“Shellos and gastrodon eat plankton”
*scared chum bucket noises*
Gen 1 bird trainer bird looks like an early Squawkabilly design
the bird keeper sprite probably has a pidgey on his arm and the background 'butterflies' in x and y look more like pink flower petals
Fun fact: In the Pokemon Adventures/Special manga, Red makes a joke mentioning Mickey Mouse.
That fish biting slowpoke looks like a gray basculin!
Don't forget the fish that were seen in the cerulean gym aquarium.
Also any time any coral is shown underwater, technically an animal on screen
Also when the ss Anne toppled over in the anime, ash saw fish swimming around. I remember as a kid I realized that was the first time I saw animals in the anime
Good thing there are waaay more Pokémon now that represent pretty much every animal under the sun.
Imagine u place your ball on table suddenly , mosquito have been caught on it
That’s so cool! I thought the bird keeper had a pidgey but i can see that too
Ah yes, everyone's favorite Pokémon: "Exacuter".
I imagine all of the gen 1 references were due to not enough Pokemon, because we know now most real animals can be replaced by something. i.e. Miltank, Zangoos/Yangoos, Sawsbuck, Carvanha, Dracovish, Kecleon, Copperjah.