Love the creative math sticking it back to Josh lol. The build is looking great. I'm always performance first and scale second. I like to see other people's scale rigs but for my builds performance comes 1st.
It would be cool if u made a spot for a magnet in the new bumper. Then glue a flat peace of metal on the front edge of the body to lock it into place. Just a suggestion. But no matter what or how it turns out. I know it's going to be badass! 👍
Good stuff! I would like to add to the conversation. The Mil Stone wideners are made by Kinetic. Mil Stone is just the name of the product. Kinetic makes a bunch of other stuff for the SCX24, too. Other companies like to copy their products, including the Mil Stone's and "double barrel" shocks. For anyone reading this, please support Kinetic. They are a small operation, but a good company and they are innovators. The Mil Stone's are attached with barrel nuts (not hex pins) and they can come off pretty easily while driving, so be careful! I recommend some blue Loctite. The added track width (per the ebay listing) is 3mm per side (not 12mm). It is minor, but noticeable. I have a set of the Mil Stone's, but prefer the Hot Racing +4mm axle shafts and 5g weights. The weights just sit on the axle shafts, so they aren't rotational mass like the Mil Stone's. Also, you can add/remove them to tune weight bias. It's a little less weight than the Mil Stone's, but added in a better way (IMO). I'm not sure which Emax mount you're looking at, but most of them really don't do anything. With the stock mount, all you need are some spacers and longer screws. Most every aftermarket mount I've seen just incorporates the spacers into the mount. They don't do anything else. If you want to push the servo back, I know of two options. MOFO RC makes an aluminum mount with repositionable posts, so you can move the servo where it needs to be for your build. It works with Y-link or 4-link. Unfortunately, it is expensive (for a tiny servo mount). The second option is to make your own and that's what I did. The STL is free on my MyMiniFactory page, as well as STL's for custom links. I'm happy to see you're using the stock wheels! They are super light and the price is right. Unfortunately, they are also very narrow (12.4mm) for the LGRP Trail King M/T's (24mm). By comparison, the RC4WD Steelies are 14.9mm. If you want to stick with something lightweight, Prefontaine Designs (Canadian!) makes some fantastic ABS wheels. They're all glue-on's and you do have to be careful with the offset as they're all a little different, but the quality is ridiculous and the price is reasonable. So far, I like his "Chrome C10" wheels because of the wide offset and 15.5mm width.
Oh, scale most definitely takes the lead importance, with performance trailing as closely behind as possible. (...And we're going to need to see return receipts for those links and wheel weights. lol.)
To answer your question, Scale FIRST with me. You've done an amazing job with this. Far exceeding Josh this time.... maybe even in performance! Even though his is probably a little lighter.
Another great video! Awesome build! Thank you and Josh for doing these Budget Build, Challenge videos! As for "scale accuracy" it can be subjective...my 1:1 1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ has 9" of lift and 39.5" Super Swamper TSL's. So when people say my Axial SCX10 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited on 2.2 MudSlinger XL tires doesn't look scale it is a close representation of my 1:1 Jeep. Yes I know I'm comparing a TJ to a JK, lol.
First one of these build offs I have ever watched, I think I am hooked need to watch the older episodes now. Great job guys, love seeing the difference in direction and parts.
Man, that's a toughie. Scale over performance or performance over scale? I think it's a special blend of each in every build. Unless you set out specifically to accomplish one or the other. Sometimes the RC tells you exactly what it needs, too. Regardless of YOUR intent. The vehicle tells you what it wants as you go.
I have watched a number of build off's between you and Josh, and for the most part he has dominated. ( burn out really comes to mind🤣) But this time....all you bro👍
Das scale has left zeeee building! [whip on your finest German accent] Hilarious that you went with the same tire as Officer Harley. I am thinking of the .7" realm or the shortest of the 1" tires [sub 40mm] Still thinking on direction here [which is why I'm watching this series] Red Wagon Parts 3D printed bodies are at the top of my list...
This build is awesome opossum sauce!!! This is only the second video of yours I've seen and I've subbed, I dont want to miss how it comes out. For a while now I've been thinking of trying a model kit to make a unique body for my k989 I think this awesome build you're doing will inspire me to finally do it. I really want to do a sporty s10 body on a k989.
I think that he's got plenty of performance, and his truck weighs less and has a much more comp-specific chassis. I doubt that on the same course, I'd be able to compete with his healthy trigger finger. 😉
For the servo just cut the mount so it has no side and superglue the servo on, it’s not like you can replace the gears on them and you can still unbolt the tray if you need or just cut the servo off when it needs replacing
Scale is number one priority. The more scale the better. Making it drive better and handle harder Terrain is secondary mostly achieved through tuning suspension tire choice.
Awesome looking build and that throttle control is Great wow you definitely got looks and performance on this build I'm about 60 -40 leaning towards performance Thanks for the video
OMG, that is the big question that's exactly why I have to have two of everything. I have a maxed out long wheel lcg performance rig, and I did a short base Revel model jeep honcho pickup that is all about scale. Had to do the same in 10 scale.
Love the clever work arounds. And scale is a secondary factory for me. I like it, but would rather a well preforming rig. But i also dont like the cropped competition bodies.
I tend to start with performance, simply because I have a certain level of performance I want in every build, that stuff takes up valuable real estate generally reserved for the scale aspect. once I get the performance to the level I want, then I decide how (or if) I am going to scale out a rig.... the only exception to this rule of mine is my 1/10 leaf sprung class 1 SORCCA rig
The truck is looking awesome. Mad max style haha. I tend to go performance. I'm not the best with scale hahaha. I want to do a scale build just not sure what truck I want to do it with. GO CANADA
Not performance at ALL cost...scale is also important. You have to be able to "relate" to the rig you're building and driving. I try to do 100% of both. It doesn't have to be 50/50. I drop everything as low in the chassis as possible for LCG. Add the typical preferred steel(not brass if I don't have to)and start adding scale detail. If I have to , I'll hollow-out the scale figure and replace medal hardware with aluminum where strength isn't needed. Things like that.
I would say I got for total performance. Then add some scale aspects to make it look cool. I definitely don’t like total comp rigs looks. The total performance comp crawlers just don’t do it for me. And I would hate to roll a total scale rig down a rock cliff face. So it’s a balance.
Doesn’t sound shady to me. I mean, josh is still “auditioning” stuff Oh yeah, the truck. I don’t mind it. In all seriousness though, looking absolutely great!
Not to be negative, but I admin Axial SCX24 Customs (Owners Club) and it's been said the the Little Guy tires are not near as good as RC4WD tires. Their not as sticky.
If its a comp rig, then its only performance, but if its your everyday rig then thats when it becomes the balance between scale an performance to me anyways
I've been trying to get myself a BETTY BUT THE ONLY ONEI CAN GET BRAND NEW IN ENGLAND IS NUMBER 10 IN THE LIMITED EDITION BUT ITS £400.00 POUNDS. A LOT OF DOLLARS
@@scalebuildersguild the katana cruiser is 1/14 scale. Not sure if its the same as the other. They look pretty monster on the 1/24th so was hoping they'd look like 35's on the cruiser.
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I think the winner of this build off is . US! Thank you very much.
Can’t wait for the live stream budget arguments lol
Love the creative math sticking it back to Josh lol. The build is looking great. I'm always performance first and scale second. I like to see other people's scale rigs but for my builds performance comes 1st.
Should be another lively conversation about budgets tonight. Love the progress and enjoying the series.
They have a emax servo mount on thingiverse so it can be a (freebie) if u go by your competitors logic 😉
It would be cool if u made a spot for a magnet in the new bumper. Then glue a flat peace of metal on the front edge of the body to lock it into place. Just a suggestion. But no matter what or how it turns out. I know it's going to be badass! 👍
Auditioning and refunds... that's hilarious. I love the creative accounting. Great low speed control. Well done Matt.
Good stuff! I would like to add to the conversation. The Mil Stone wideners are made by Kinetic. Mil Stone is just the name of the product. Kinetic makes a bunch of other stuff for the SCX24, too. Other companies like to copy their products, including the Mil Stone's and "double barrel" shocks. For anyone reading this, please support Kinetic. They are a small operation, but a good company and they are innovators. The Mil Stone's are attached with barrel nuts (not hex pins) and they can come off pretty easily while driving, so be careful! I recommend some blue Loctite. The added track width (per the ebay listing) is 3mm per side (not 12mm). It is minor, but noticeable. I have a set of the Mil Stone's, but prefer the Hot Racing +4mm axle shafts and 5g weights. The weights just sit on the axle shafts, so they aren't rotational mass like the Mil Stone's. Also, you can add/remove them to tune weight bias. It's a little less weight than the Mil Stone's, but added in a better way (IMO).
I'm not sure which Emax mount you're looking at, but most of them really don't do anything. With the stock mount, all you need are some spacers and longer screws. Most every aftermarket mount I've seen just incorporates the spacers into the mount. They don't do anything else. If you want to push the servo back, I know of two options. MOFO RC makes an aluminum mount with repositionable posts, so you can move the servo where it needs to be for your build. It works with Y-link or 4-link. Unfortunately, it is expensive (for a tiny servo mount). The second option is to make your own and that's what I did. The STL is free on my MyMiniFactory page, as well as STL's for custom links.
I'm happy to see you're using the stock wheels! They are super light and the price is right. Unfortunately, they are also very narrow (12.4mm) for the LGRP Trail King M/T's (24mm). By comparison, the RC4WD Steelies are 14.9mm. If you want to stick with something lightweight, Prefontaine Designs (Canadian!) makes some fantastic ABS wheels. They're all glue-on's and you do have to be careful with the offset as they're all a little different, but the quality is ridiculous and the price is reasonable. So far, I like his "Chrome C10" wheels because of the wide offset and 15.5mm width.
Great feedback! Thank you very much for the insights Derrick!
Oh, scale most definitely takes the lead importance, with performance trailing as closely behind as possible. (...And we're going to need to see return receipts for those links and wheel weights. lol.)
To answer your question, Scale FIRST with me. You've done an amazing job with this. Far exceeding Josh this time.... maybe even in performance! Even though his is probably a little lighter.
I was on the fence at first, but this rig is too awesome not to like. Everything flows so well.
This little truck is slower and crawls better than any of my big trucks.
Thats fantastic.
The math lesson was hilarious!
😂
Gotta love "math" awsome build cant wait for the competition
One of the best part of my Wednesdays!
I didn’t think it could get any better, you’ve blown me away with this build, fantastic. 😎👍
Thank you very much!
Another great video! Awesome build! Thank you and Josh for doing these Budget Build, Challenge videos!
As for "scale accuracy" it can be subjective...my 1:1 1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ has 9" of lift and 39.5" Super Swamper TSL's. So when people say my Axial SCX10 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited on 2.2 MudSlinger XL tires doesn't look scale it is a close representation of my 1:1 Jeep. Yes I know I'm comparing a TJ to a JK, lol.
I totally dig that body... If ya don't want it send it my way then.... Heck send the whole truck 😂
Dsm offroad makes a great servo mount that puts the servo further back and runs $5.99 bald eagles. Happy crawling
You got that emaxx servo pretty cheap! 😉 Love your build! It's different and very cool! 👍👍
Love this build, you're absolutely killing it! Josh doesn't stand a chance on this one 😄 Canada Proud 🇨🇦
First one of these build offs I have ever watched, I think I am hooked need to watch the older episodes now. Great job guys, love seeing the difference in direction and parts.
Looks great! I’m so fascinated at the slow mo skills of this truck!!!
Great build 👍 you could always go the josh route and use foam for the interior lol
Man, that's a toughie. Scale over performance or performance over scale? I think it's a special blend of each in every build. Unless you set out specifically to accomplish one or the other. Sometimes the RC tells you exactly what it needs, too. Regardless of YOUR intent. The vehicle tells you what it wants as you go.
Thanks man! Have a wonderful night!
I have watched a number of build off's between you and Josh, and for the most part he has dominated. ( burn out really comes to mind🤣) But this time....all you bro👍
Das scale has left zeeee building! [whip on your finest German accent]
Hilarious that you went with the same tire as Officer Harley.
I am thinking of the .7" realm or the shortest of the 1" tires [sub 40mm]
Still thinking on direction here [which is why I'm watching this series]
Red Wagon Parts 3D printed bodies are at the top of my list...
This build is awesome opossum sauce!!! This is only the second video of yours I've seen and I've subbed, I dont want to miss how it comes out. For a while now I've been thinking of trying a model kit to make a unique body for my k989 I think this awesome build you're doing will inspire me to finally do it. I really want to do a sporty s10 body on a k989.
I love this series, makes my Wednesdays! I can't believe 7 weeks are down already. Keep up the great ideas and awesome work. 👍✌️
Your truck gives me Dakar vibes super cool
I don't think Josh has a chance.Think SBG has blown him out of the water with this build off.Looking forward to the finally.
Wow.. Josh may actually be in trouble performance wise. I never thought I'd say that but I feel he needs to step it up to win. Great job
I think that he's got plenty of performance, and his truck weighs less and has a much more comp-specific chassis. I doubt that on the same course, I'd be able to compete with his healthy trigger finger. 😉
For the servo just cut the mount so it has no side and superglue the servo on, it’s not like you can replace the gears on them and you can still unbolt the tray if you need or just cut the servo off when it needs replacing
Servo tape.....it is called servo tape after all!
Scale is number one priority. The more scale the better. Making it drive better and handle harder Terrain is secondary mostly achieved through tuning suspension tire choice.
Absolutely, Matt! If you take it off the truck it doesn't count!🤣
Awesome looking build and that throttle control is Great wow you definitely got looks and performance on this build I'm about 60 -40 leaning towards performance Thanks for the video
Coming along great. I agree the Littleguys tires are killer!!!!🤘🤘🤘
How to save money? Just take off stuff out of the truck! 😂😂😂
You do make awesome looking trucks.
OMG, that is the big question that's exactly why I have to have two of everything. I have a maxed out long wheel lcg performance rig, and I did a short base Revel model jeep honcho pickup that is all about scale. Had to do the same in 10 scale.
I can't help adding details , but I think there is a breaking point where accuracy and performance go there separate ways.
I'm chuffed about this build, so much more than Josh's!
Matt, your gonna win man. That’s a piece of work for sure that deserves to to take Betty out to pasture and put her down.
I think we've all won! Tons of awesome mods and upgrades made to both trucks!
Come on Matt, you know a Tiger pounces on a cow. Or should I say a Betty?
Love the clever work arounds. And scale is a secondary factory for me. I like it, but would rather a well preforming rig. But i also dont like the cropped competition bodies.
That thing looks so good, nice job!
Thanks! 👍
Your truck reminds me something Ace Ventura would probably drive.
High setting for you, low setting for Josh, lol 👍
I tend to start with performance, simply because I have a certain level of performance I want in every build, that stuff takes up valuable real estate generally reserved for the scale aspect. once I get the performance to the level I want, then I decide how (or if) I am going to scale out a rig.... the only exception to this rule of mine is my 1/10 leaf sprung class 1 SORCCA rig
Wow it’s come so far!
The truck is looking awesome.
Mad max style haha.
I tend to go performance.
I'm not the best with scale hahaha.
I want to do a scale build just not sure what truck I want to do it with.
GO CANADA
Cool truck
Is that this new common core math I keep hearing about?
looks like a jackhammer works great to clearance that bumper lol. Fresh pedicure? 😎😁
Refund!...I love it
Hopefully you do scx24’s again in the future
Epic math skillz...😁
Maybe do half an interior. I always go scale first performance second with almost all my builds.
Shaka Hobbies has 3d printed wheels with almost no backspacing for under $30. No wideners needed. And wide enough for those fat tires.
Love the refund
I would love to see it as a vw bus
It's almost been 2 months?!?!? Where in the world did the time go???
Not performance at ALL cost...scale is also important. You have to be able to "relate" to the rig you're building and driving.
I try to do 100% of both. It doesn't have to be 50/50.
I drop everything as low in the chassis as possible for LCG. Add the typical preferred steel(not brass if I don't have to)and start adding scale detail. If I have to , I'll hollow-out the scale figure and replace medal hardware with aluminum where strength isn't needed.
Things like that.
But the servo mount for a different truck and then “borrow” it to see how it works 😂
I would say I got for total performance. Then add some scale aspects to make it look cool. I definitely don’t like total comp rigs looks. The total performance comp crawlers just don’t do it for me. And I would hate to roll a total scale rig down a rock cliff face. So it’s a balance.
Doesn’t sound shady to me. I mean, josh is still “auditioning” stuff
Oh yeah, the truck. I don’t mind it.
In all seriousness though, looking absolutely great!
Awesome
whats better ? axial 24 or rc4wd 18 ?
Axial SCX24.
Free mode you should do is put rubber band limiter straps.
you must be using josh's accountant ... lol
Gotta love Canadian math
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Not to be negative, but I admin Axial SCX24 Customs (Owners Club) and it's been said the the Little Guy tires are not near as good as RC4WD tires. Their not as sticky.
All good! We're all allowed to have an opinion!
They need to be tuned. Better or modified foams and vented.
Matt has definitely learned Joshes cheating ways. LOL All good fun though, so I don't care. :D
Can you please do a video on your gray scx24 JLU. 7
What Revell(or any model) scale is actually closest to the SCX24? Is it 1/24, or is there a better choice? Thanks.
1/20 if you can find them are best. There’s an AMT Toyota that works great.
Cool content
Fuzzy math!
I pretty much for go the performance as soon as my pencil hits the paper....then I try to catch up at the end and make it somewhat drivable....
Let’s go!!
Matt can now have a new job balancing government budgets now
👍🏾💯 Nice upgrades bro
Thanks 💯
Performance > looks
One of your best builds, starting to head into Russian-esque rigs.. Tiny, but fierce, ha
What's the yellow desert jeep in the background? Is that also an scx24?
It's based on an SCX24 called the "Microshark" and I've done complete videos on it in the past.
@@scalebuildersguild oh, cool, I'll find those!
Where is everybody finding these little guy tires at?
Everywhere I look there out of stock or back ordered
He ran out. There are more coming
@@emory442 awesome iv been looking for two months on every wait list there is 🤣🤣🤣
I tried the wd40 trick to soften the tires, but now they got bigger and they don’t seat in the beadlock, any ideas on how to fix that?…Hot water?
Beats me, I've never done that, and in fact, wouldn't recommend it!
🤘
How do you get the little guy racing tires I can’t find them anywhere !!!!!
I got them a month or so ago. Don’t worry, he’s got more coming!
I try to keep my builds around 50/50 scale to performance
If its a comp rig, then its only performance, but if its your everyday rig then thats when it becomes the balance between scale an performance to me anyways
I've been trying to get myself a BETTY BUT THE ONLY ONEI CAN GET BRAND NEW IN ENGLAND IS NUMBER 10 IN THE LIMITED EDITION BUT ITS £400.00 POUNDS. A LOT OF DOLLARS
magnet for fixing the front ?
what nuts did you use to secure the wheels?
They come with the Mil Stone kit.
I love the tires, but neither yours or Josh’s tires are available to buy
Because he sold out of them. They were definitely available.
@@scalebuildersguild I ended up ordering some Injora’s off amazon that look like mini Hyrax’s and some RC4WD Mud Slingers from work.
Did I see microshark flinch? At 12:47
You think those tires are large enough for the roc katana?
That's essentially the FMS Land Cruiser, right? I think they're probably too big.
@@scalebuildersguild the katana cruiser is 1/14 scale. Not sure if its the same as the other. They look pretty monster on the 1/24th so was hoping they'd look like 35's on the cruiser.
@@toddbertram6556 Ah gotcha, if it's 14th scale, you might be okay.
Brooooooooooooooo that low speed control tho
Why not a forward control 101?
Because I wanted something that I built myself.
How fast can it go? Top speed more slower?
Top speed faster than stock, by a long shot.
@@scalebuildersguildThank you for your information.
Ha you know damn good and well you can't return parts you opened and installed, you blew the budget into outer space 😆
Returned, to their packages for another project. 😉