@@AlexCruz-wc1yo Naturally each sport has its own rules, much like someone who does not wrestle would not instinctively get out of a half the correct way. Wrestling being the "hardest" land sport is owed not from being a grappling sport, but also the one with the most emphasis on physically overpowering your opponent. Sure, outthinking and outspeeding your opponent is still important, but physical conditioning required for wrestling is very insane.
One thing that UFC has done is exposing what I just said by showing to the average uneducated viewer the difference between the raw brute force of wrestling ( free style wrestling is hand down the best of the two versions thoug but still) and the classy, refined and complicated art yet lethal beauty of Japanese judo in the form of BJJ.ie: Ben Askren vs Damian Maia.
@@AlexCruz-wc1yo I don't think we disagree necessarily. I do not claim that judo/bjj are lesser of less effective sports. As you have stated and was clearly shown in the MMA match. I am merely claiming that in isolation wrestling is by far the most physically taxing and therefore "hardest" of the grappling sports. As an excersize in pedantry, there are still arguments for wrestling within that match. Mainly, that it is not a fair comparison of the two sports. Any decent MMA fighter will know at least how to resist all grappling styles. So it can be argued that the determinant of victory in that match was up to the physical condition and skill of the fighters.
Folkstyle is based in controlling the opponent and holding him down not just exposing his back the ground. You aim to pin is shoulder(s) down to the mat against his will. It's a physical chess fight basically on the ground. It's better than Freestyle and GrecoRoman.
Saithfrdoe bruh I wrestle in Texas it’s my second year wrestling but last year I only went to 3 tournaments I’m so pumped for my sophomore season right now tho
freestyle is way more throwing then folkstyle since folkstyle has alot stricter rules about slamming so most of it is getting the takedown and trying to work your way on the ground
Well I am not american but from what I manged to gather online Folkstyle wrestling is more focused on the ground work itself rather than the takedowns they reward major scapes from the bottom and high amplitude throws can get you disqualified they start two out of the three rounds with one player on his knees and the other one on top of him trying to keep him there so a lot of focus on both scaping the bottom position and maintaining the top position that's why they do well in mma since maintaining the top position means you are your going to be good at ground and pound and scaping the bottom means no one is going to ground and pound you
David Taylor is in here a couple times. The 2013 ncaa finals takedown against Kyle Dake and the takedown vs Lehigh and then the takedown in Illinois in 2013 for his 4th big ten championship then and which is before the highlights of dicamillo pinning Darian cruz in that head scissors then has another clip after of him pinning Kokesha
0:25 I thought you couldn’t suplex in folkstyle? Well it’s not really a suplex but I thought you couldn’t slam like that or lock hands when they are on the ground like that.
@@mim5454 oh ok it’s probably just the angle of the camera so I didn’t really know if his hands were still locked or not when he came I contact with the mat.
at 3:18, you cannot apply pressure when doing that move, then it become illegal. It is not a triangle choke, it is a figure four around the head. It is illegal in high school wrestling but legal in freestyle.
@@thorn6371 been out of the game for 15yrs. What's it called now for college? High school was called folk and we always just called everything else freestyle that wasn't Greco
@@Th3Chuzzl3r pretty sure I made it obvious I didn't wrestle in college. Freestyle was all the off season tournaments, so just assumed. I only wrestled in middle and high school
This is folk wrestling, honestly one of the only real wrestling types out there. WWE (professional wrestling) is fake. So what most people view as “fake” or “dumb” is honestly just their opinion. And honestly whether it’s fake or not, wrestling has a lot of physical requirements. I’d know because I’m currently in Middle School Folk wrestling, and I appreciate when people doubt what I go through for 2-3 hours after school every day.
@@jonathanreno1022 But most wrestling styles apply better to fighting though. Greco and freestyle are more balanced than folkstye when it comes to the ratio of ground game to stand up. Wrestling is a stand up art, folkstyle compromises that for a groundgame better than freestyle or greco but worse than all other grappling styles and worse takedown game. It also has weird and obscure rules in regard to fighting. Folkstyle is worse for fighting. And styles of wrestling like CACC, judo or sambo obviously beat fsw, grw and folkstyle because they have submissions, much better ground games, equal stand up etc.
Folkstyle wrestling is the hardest land sport. Agreed.
Wrestling IS the hardest land sport.
Case closed.
And then you throw a judogui on them and they become lost
@@AlexCruz-wc1yo Naturally each sport has its own rules, much like someone who does not wrestle would not instinctively get out of a half the correct way. Wrestling being the "hardest" land sport is owed not from being a grappling sport, but also the one with the most emphasis on physically overpowering your opponent. Sure, outthinking and outspeeding your opponent is still important, but physical conditioning required for wrestling is very insane.
@@andrewzhao444 I understand all that, yet I sustain my statement.
One thing that UFC has done is exposing what I just said by showing to the average uneducated viewer the difference between the raw brute force of wrestling ( free style wrestling is hand down the best of the two versions thoug but still) and the classy, refined and complicated art yet lethal beauty of Japanese judo in the form of BJJ.ie: Ben Askren vs Damian Maia.
@@AlexCruz-wc1yo I don't think we disagree necessarily. I do not claim that judo/bjj are lesser of less effective sports. As you have stated and was clearly shown in the MMA match. I am merely claiming that in isolation wrestling is by far the most physically taxing and therefore "hardest" of the grappling sports.
As an excersize in pedantry, there are still arguments for wrestling within that match. Mainly, that it is not a fair comparison of the two sports. Any decent MMA fighter will know at least how to resist all grappling styles. So it can be argued that the determinant of victory in that match was up to the physical condition and skill of the fighters.
Justin Gaethje brought me here.
S B lol same, I was like wtf is he talking about.
@@Zeph-95 Wow, fellow mutual ufc watchers. Ya'll think he's right though? Could this be the key to beat The Eagle
@@sullyswrldd maybe
Was talking to my 9 yo about UFC 254 and she wanted to see why chael prefers folk 😂
Yup
2:47 was smooth af
So many awesome clips that were in this video, and there's still so many more that couldve been added. Great video
2:48! gator role looks awesome a little higher off the ground like that
It's actually a cement mixer gator roll is all the way through a cement mixer is when you roll to a pin
@@Logan-zv4xg lowkey tho
Folkstyle is based in controlling the opponent and holding him down not just exposing his back the ground. You aim to pin is shoulder(s) down to the mat against his will. It's a physical chess fight basically on the ground. It's better than Freestyle and GrecoRoman.
It's not better than Greco Roman
@@dzimikes better is subjective. Its definitely more complete
@@dzimikes greco is the worst of the 3
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@@Th3Chuzzl3rWell, you catch my attention, but could you please rank them for me in order of preference?
david taylor's a beast. those ankle picks are insanely smooth
dude wrestling is hard AF
@Ethan Hoback same bro
Saithfrdoe bruh I wrestle in Texas it’s my second year wrestling but last year I only went to 3 tournaments I’m so pumped for my sophomore season right now tho
This is still my first year but im doo dooing on kids
It really is, especially when your team doubts you just because you’re a girl
@@Logan-zv4xg middle school is WAYY easier than high school
They are actually working on the ground BJJ style, look like they have more ground game than freestyle wrestling
freestyle is way more throwing then folkstyle since folkstyle has alot stricter rules about slamming so most of it is getting the takedown and trying to work your way on the ground
Dude....that was sick at 2:47
A hardon in defeat...4:00..
The best one and the most smartest TAKEDOWN is in 2:07 !!!!!
😲😲😲
👏👏👏👏
To other who dont understand folkstyle is like jiujitsu but you cant use shokes
I’m doing wrestling and I’ve never done it before so I’m just preparing by watching these videos
what grade
Good luck it's fun
@@kione_haha5438 freshman high school
@@bowieee yea it’s really difficult but it’s fun
What's the difference between freestyle and folkstyle besides the points? (i'm no expert)
Well I am not american but from what I manged to gather online Folkstyle wrestling is more focused on the ground work itself rather than the takedowns they reward major scapes from the bottom and high amplitude throws can get you disqualified they start two out of the three rounds with one player on his knees and the other one on top of him trying to keep him there so a lot of focus on both scaping the bottom position and maintaining the top position that's why they do well in mma since maintaining the top position means you are your going to be good at ground and pound and scaping the bottom means no one is going to ground and pound you
Thanks for posting such a sick video!
@3:18 ? Isn’t that illegal?
For collegiate wrestling, nfhs changed the rules from 2011, so now it is illegal. The move is a figure four around the head.
Mohong Li thanks 🙏
@@brennantria1200 it might be legal in freestyle still
I know it is legal in free style, but I don’t know about folk style
When I wrestled the rule was: You can figure four the head but not the body. You can scissor the body but not the head.
I only recently got to know the term folkstyle. I only knew greco-roman and freestyle.
What's the difference?
You mustn't catch below the waist in greco Roman style. In folk style you mustn't slam people on the ground like you can in greco roman
@@dzimikes way more differences than that ahahha
@@hotspot131638837 well yes,but those are the main
a lot more mat wrestling in folkstyle and cannot lock hands around the body when in control.
Great video 👍🏾👍🏾
The one thing that’s flawed about this is Zain and Logan Stieber aren’t shown here one time
BSU were beast before the shut down wrestling
It's wrestling or sub only bjj ... I m confused
There is no Zain Retherford in here but there’s Bo and Jason.
and dtIII as well
David Taylor is in here a couple times. The 2013 ncaa finals takedown against Kyle Dake and the takedown vs Lehigh and then the takedown in Illinois in 2013 for his 4th big ten championship then and which is before the highlights of dicamillo pinning Darian cruz in that head scissors then has another clip after of him pinning Kokesha
Beat name?
3:15 😯
Somewhere in Dagestan Khabib is having a good laugh 🤣
Sambo sucks
0:25 I thought you couldn’t suplex in folkstyle? Well it’s not really a suplex but I thought you couldn’t slam like that or lock hands when they are on the ground like that.
Might be a little late to respond but he locked his hands when the other guy was on his feet so totally legal
@@mim5454 oh ok it’s probably just the angle of the camera so I didn’t really know if his hands were still locked or not when he came I contact with the mat.
@@infinitesparky4661 two on one side throw no suplex or locked hands if you slow it down you can see
why is this called folk style? i thought collegiate wrestling was greco roman
It’s pretty much the same as high school with some different rules
GR you can't grab legs, so it's free style with some add rules
Such a pleasure to see men expressing themselves like this. Beautiful, sensual dances. Its OK for men to cuddle.
2:22
Can you triangle someone in wrestling? I never knew you could.
No u can't choke
at 3:18, you cannot apply pressure when doing that move, then it become illegal. It is not a triangle choke, it is a figure four around the head. It is illegal in high school wrestling but legal in freestyle.
so its a penn state highlight real
Checkers rule...
Cael Sanderson is the best to ever do it
God/Jesus loves y’all
Came here because of Gaethje.
this is free style but ok
No
Ncaa is freestyle...
It’s not though America doesn’t do freestyle for its main wrestling
@@thorn6371 been out of the game for 15yrs. What's it called now for college? High school was called folk and we always just called everything else freestyle that wasn't Greco
@@ctvwrest bro college wrestling has never been called freestyle, not 15 years ago , not never, im guessing you didnt wrestle very much lmao
@@Th3Chuzzl3r pretty sure I made it obvious I didn't wrestle in college. Freestyle was all the off season tournaments, so just assumed. I only wrestled in middle and high school
This is the dumb wrestling they need to do some freestyle or Greeko Roman some real wrestling
This is freestyle..
This is folk wrestling, honestly one of the only real wrestling types out there. WWE (professional wrestling) is fake. So what most people view as “fake” or “dumb” is honestly just their opinion. And honestly whether it’s fake or not, wrestling has a lot of physical requirements. I’d know because I’m currently in Middle School Folk wrestling, and I appreciate when people doubt what I go through for 2-3 hours after school every day.
oc_ renee dude high school changes everything
@@jonathanreno1022 Folkstyle is dumb though. No where near as effective as actual wrestling.
@@jonathanreno1022 But most wrestling styles apply better to fighting though.
Greco and freestyle are more balanced than folkstye when it comes to the ratio of ground game to stand up. Wrestling is a stand up art, folkstyle compromises that for a groundgame better than freestyle or greco but worse than all other grappling styles and worse takedown game. It also has weird and obscure rules in regard to fighting. Folkstyle is worse for fighting.
And styles of wrestling like CACC, judo or sambo obviously beat fsw, grw and folkstyle because they have submissions, much better ground games, equal stand up etc.
2:37