Britain's Strangest WW2 Bomber? | Vickers Wellington (Part 2)

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  • Today we're looking at the many other variants of the Vickers Wellington that weren't dedicated bombers. Some of these were very weird indeed, including the DWI (or flying doughnut) Wellington, the high-altitude Wellingtons, and the numerous examples operated by Coastal Command, which helped to pioneer the use of the Leigh Light in hunting U-Boats.
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    Sources:
    Bowyer.C (1986), The Wellington Bomber - geni.us/4f6hAQQ
    Andrews.C.F (1967), The Vickers Wellington I & II (Aircraft in Profile 125) - geni.us/wf8F40g
    Delve.K (1998), Vickers Armstrong Wellington - geni.us/jU1Yv
    Hall.A.W (1997), Vickers Wellington, Warpaint Series No. 10 - geni.us/HhXGzpa
    Mackay.R (1986), Wellington in Action, Aircraft Number 76 - geni.us/BXCIZZK
    Air Ministry (1941), Pilot's Notes, The Wellington I, IA, and IC Aeroplanes.

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  • @RexsHangar
    @RexsHangar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    F.A.Q Section
    Q: Do you take aircraft requests?
    A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:)
    Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others?
    A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both.
    Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos?
    A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :)
    Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators?
    A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible.
    Feel free to leave you questions below - I may not be able to answer all of them, but I will keep my eyes open :)

    • @admiraltiberius1989
      @admiraltiberius1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Is the Ford Trimotor on your list? Thank you

    • @youdontneedtoknow6621
      @youdontneedtoknow6621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve been waiting for this one for a while thanks 😊

    • @DragnEYE
      @DragnEYE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whats your favorite flying boat? I really like the astatic of the Japanese's "Kawanishi H6K" if you haven't already done a video on that.

    • @Governmenttruth
      @Governmenttruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fokker G1 please, I´m Dutch.

    • @verstappen9937
      @verstappen9937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok I’ve got a huge request because it’s not a traditional video for you. PLEASE make a video on the French Leyat Helicar. Attempt #9 (also haven’t given up on asking for the SU-47 but the Leyat is even more interesting)

  • @nonamesplease6288
    @nonamesplease6288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    The allies discovered that the bright spotlight made these planes invisible to their targets in broad daylight. Although this seems counter intuitive it actually makes perfect sense. A plane with a bright spotlight on is invisible against the background of a bright daylit sky. U boat crews were unable to spot such planes until they came close enough for the spotlight to come into focus and the plane became visible. By then it was too late.

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @NoNamesPlease - I agree; it does seem counter-intuitive - but your explanation makes perfect sense.

    • @ddd3240
      @ddd3240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Operation Yahootie by the USNavy was the name of the research and development. If I remember correctly they first tested it on land by making a truck “disappear” on top of a hill. It impressed the brass and it was tested on aircraft with some success.

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same principle applies to a M . Cycle on a bright day... Its a form of white out.

    • @cjwrench07
      @cjwrench07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      That early “stealth” research program also found *the perfect colour* to reduce the range of visual detection by up to 80% of normal. Pink, or how they described it in their reports: “An equal mixture of White and Red pigments” or “as comparable to a dulled Salmon colour.”
      There was just no way the Joint Chiefs were/are ever going to paint all their aircraft:! Pink. Especially the Fighter Fleet, which would see the greatest difference in their visual signature.

    • @cosmoray9750
      @cosmoray9750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roger Waters: Response to Nancy ...
      th-cam.com/video/98WH8K2Wjck/w-d-xo.html

  • @elennapointer701
    @elennapointer701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    And yet, after all the variants and thousands of airframes built, there is only one surviving Wellington today. Tragic.

    • @tihspidtherekciltilc5469
      @tihspidtherekciltilc5469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I wouldn't have cared much a few years ago but that has changed. To all the museums and people that keep them open, thank you.

    • @kingleech16
      @kingleech16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Were Wellingtons harder to preserve than other aircraft (due to their structure), or were they just unlucky/not a big part of the popular consciousness?

    • @elennapointer701
      @elennapointer701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@kingleech16 Probably nobody gave any thought to preserving any for posterity until it was too late. There were thousands of Wellingtons, so I guess it didn't seem like a priority until they suddenly realized there were none left. The surviving example ditched in Loch Ness and had to be raised in order to get it to a museum.

    • @kingleech16
      @kingleech16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@elennapointer701 a damned shame. I know that resources were tight after the war, but it would have been nice to have saved a few more hulls and airframes.

    • @carlthorpe5538
      @carlthorpe5538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Actually two survivors.. one at Brooklands, and one being restored at RAF Museum Cosford :)

  • @Chuckles..
    @Chuckles.. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    What they managed to engineer with only analog equipment, a slide rule, and pencil and paper during WW2 is truly mind blowing.

    • @UguysRnuts
      @UguysRnuts ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Men like Nevil Shute, whose job title at Vickers was "Computer" are no longer being produced. Despite his achievements during the war analyzing the engineering stresses of geodetic construction, I consider his greatest gifts to humanity to be the novels he wrote in which he anticipated the nuclear corner we've painted ourselves into and the importance of faith in human evolution.

    • @nomadpi1
      @nomadpi1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You list equipment; you don't understand; it was, and still is, the human mind..

    • @tomarmadiyer2698
      @tomarmadiyer2698 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The polish guy who reverse engineered late 30s enigma with his head-math

    • @NormanSilver
      @NormanSilver 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Give a kid a Slide Rule now. They are befuddled.

  • @Sacto1654
    @Sacto1654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    "...After a landing that would put even RyanAir to shame..." 🤣
    But seriously, the Wellington survived in service because its very geodetic structural design made the airframe extremely strong for its day. Its strong structure made the Wellington highly adaptable for numerous other roles.

    • @stupitdog9686
      @stupitdog9686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Some one asked a RyanAir pilot, on disembarking, after a rather heavy landing, "Was that really a sheduled landing - or were we actually shot down??"

  • @MrDavewg23
    @MrDavewg23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The Captain in the picture is my father. I have his log book. He was with 407 sqdrn..

  • @arniewilliamson1767
    @arniewilliamson1767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I worked with an ex RCAF navigator in 1975. Apparently the Wimpy as he called would take a phenomenal amount of battle damage and still get them home.

    • @mddunlap03
      @mddunlap03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The real Let down of the Wellington was that it had no armor and returned many more members of its air crew dead vs it’s competition. It was cheaper and faster to make but at a cost to the crews

    • @brentfellers9632
      @brentfellers9632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mddunlap03 lol .040" of aluminum isn't armor.
      As a retired aircraft engineer I'm always amazed with people who think a metal skinned aircraft affords more protection than a fabric and or wood airframe.
      Geodesic construction is a incredibly resilient structure however nothing is free in life. The tradeoffs In this case being weight and production time.
      Stressed skin (monocoque/semi monocoque)is the construction technique that survives to this day.

    • @brentfellers9632
      @brentfellers9632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mddunlap03 the competition that didn't make it back with wounded...means THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT BACK!

    • @sinisterisrandom8537
      @sinisterisrandom8537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brentfellers9632 funny when you think about a B-17 that landed with barely a tail, one that landed herself with no crew, a B-17 tail that landed itself(extreme grain of salt no clue if it's true the other 2 can be proven though).
      Curious though if any wellington had some weird but similar stories.

    • @garryferrington811
      @garryferrington811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It looks as though a cannon round could potentially pass right through the aircraft without doing more than leaving two holes. Maybe geodesic should be tried again.

  • @kilianortmann9979
    @kilianortmann9979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Always a great day when Rex is giving us some more Welly.

  • @pythosdegothos6181
    @pythosdegothos6181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    When I first saw that image of the pressurized Wellington at the end of part 1 I thought it was just such a weird looking thing. But seeing how this was essentially a pressure vessel grafted on to a Welly's frame, it makes more sense. Still a strange looking machine for sure.

    • @johnbrewer8954
      @johnbrewer8954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was the reason the engine of the later Spitfires and Mustangs was developed, for the high altitude Wellington.

  • @aldenconsolver3428
    @aldenconsolver3428 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That was a fine aeroplane and the Brits showed admirable skill in turning it into whatever was needed at the time. We need to salvage and rebuild at least one more of those for the museums

  • @organickevinlondon
    @organickevinlondon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've watched hundreds of WW1 and WW2 You Tube videos/documentaries,
    this one is incredibly well researched/presented,
    until I watched this Wellington documentary,
    I had no idea that a high altitude Wellington even existed.

  • @UguysRnuts
    @UguysRnuts ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You got it backwards, A mine "laid at low tide" would not become exposed. It was laid at HIGH TIDE and was exposed when the water ebbed.

  • @BrianJ001
    @BrianJ001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Brilliant video! Thanks! My Dad was at Brooklands with Vickers and involved in Wellington mods and Warwick and Windsor construction.

  • @iffracem
    @iffracem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Awesome, I knew the Wellington was a good, versatile and usually under-rated machine, but I never knew it was this versatile!.

  • @Johnnydiamondlonglive
    @Johnnydiamondlonglive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellence in scholarship is the hallmark of this fine aviation channel, many years and blessings to it!

  • @willallen7757
    @willallen7757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    wow, I don't remember ever hearing of these let alone seeing a picture of one. Your efforts add to the historical record for sure.

    • @The-Clockwork-Eye
      @The-Clockwork-Eye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not heard of a Wellington Bomber? You must be a millennial.

    • @kittehgo
      @kittehgo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think he meant a Wellington with a hula hoop

    • @Pgb633
      @Pgb633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@The-Clockwork-Eye he probably meant the different modifications of the Welly

    • @willallen7757
      @willallen7757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ofc I've heard of a wellington. I'm 51.

    • @UguysRnuts
      @UguysRnuts ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The-Clockwork-Eye Generation X, functionally illiterate.

  • @timgosling6189
    @timgosling6189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As WWII in general saw a massive increase in what became know as Electronic Warfare. Regarding the anti U-Boat aircraft, the loss of a Wellington over occupied territory allowed the Germans to analyse the system and build radar detectors to be fitted in U-Boats. ASW aircraft then saw their prey submerging before they could be attacked, but of course in turn the radar parameters were changed to restore the advantage to the attacker.
    192 Sqn operated Wellington Xs within 100 Gp in the 'signal interception' role, later known as ESM, using sensitive receivers to establish and analyse the German electronic order of battle. This was dangerous work when for instance working to record the emissions of Luftwaffe night-fighter AI radars so that detectors and jammers could be developed. They also contributed to the discovery of radio tracking transmissions from V1s, and the geolocation of ground radar sites, leading to the famous commando operation to seize a Wurzburg radar from Bruneval on the North French coast.
    Anyway, great to see some of the more arcane variants getting some lime (or Leigh) light for a change!

    • @knottyal2428
      @knottyal2428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe those Wellingtons adapted for electronic warfare were known as "smeller Wellingtons". They could sniff out enemy radar frequencies !

  • @samrodian919
    @samrodian919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a brilliant and very detailed look at Barnes Wallace's beloved Wimpy! Thank you for bringing it to us. Many of these variants I had never heard of apart from the degaussing and Leigh light ones.

  • @mpersad
    @mpersad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A superb multi-role aircraft, I've always had a soft spot for the "Wimpy". Great video, once again. Thank you.

  • @captaccordion
    @captaccordion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks Rex, that was most comprehensive, containing much I hadn't known, including why the Leigh light was so named. I've a small correction for you. Gauss is usually held to rhyme with house rather than horse. Cheers.

  • @haroldshull6848
    @haroldshull6848 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At a couple points of this presentation I tried explaining the skeleton of the Wellington to a friend watching the show too. The 2 or 4 seconds it was displayed at the end of the show before fabric was applied was all that was necessary for complete understanding. A picture is worth a thousand words - absolutely.
    Don't know what it would take to move that picture to the first few minutes of the program but a neophyte would definitely get a better appreciation of the aircraft.
    An incredible amount of information of modifications and results, along with crew opinions. Superb presentation.
    Thank you ...

  • @diquadhumungersaur492
    @diquadhumungersaur492 ปีที่แล้ว

    that feeling of quiet happiness when you luck onto a channel that has copious content on a subject you like and,more importantly, is presented in a clear informative manner by somebodythat obviously enjoys their subject/job.. :-) having spent many hours taking marine warfare lessons with dracinfel i am now lookkng forward to the ariel class ...a thankyou in advance mr hanger..

  • @jonathan_60503
    @jonathan_60503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Loved hearing about all these weird and wonderful variations. I'd seen pictures of the "hula hoop" Wellington, but didn't really know about the others. (And your narration was just fine - didn't notice any impact from your local fires)

  • @Mattie123
    @Mattie123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thoroughly enjoyed this, as I did part 1. The information on the aircraft , variants, different creations and history on them is something I really enjoy! Thanks for your hard work and keep bringing us more!
    P.s any chance one day you could do the CAC Boomerang in the future? Would be great! Have a soft spot for her.

  • @martentrudeau6948
    @martentrudeau6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    All in all the Wellington was a useful and I think a good aircraft design, it's geodesic structure was very innovative. I like the Wellington's looks.

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A classic example of looking right and flying right.

  • @hughbarton5743
    @hughbarton5743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Thank you, Rex, for another informative and entertaining video.
    P.S. It gladens this old heart to witness a presenter who is well spoken, does not mispronounce words that are in the O.E.D., and can actually concoct sentences that have a subject, predicate, and object. This might seem like setting the bar rather low, but a cringingly large percentage of your peers seem incapable of this seemingly mundane set of tasks, which would doubtless send many of my teachers from years long past spinning violently in their graves......

    • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
      @JohnSmith-yv6eq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't mention robot voices.....

    • @benwilson6145
      @benwilson6145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And from an Aussie!

    • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
      @JohnSmith-yv6eq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Retired Bore
      Marvin..is that you?

    • @guinnog2
      @guinnog2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Apart from mispronouncing "degaussing".

    • @BlackMasterRoshi
      @BlackMasterRoshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      so I'm guessing you don't like dark skies..

  • @atomcat9000
    @atomcat9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It's not "degauzing" - it's 'degaussing' pronounced 'de-gow-sing". I used to work at Dowty Magnetics, where we made various magnetic ranges used to set the back-off coils on Naval ships. Ships have a magnetic field, whose orientation changes due to the Earth's magnetic field. After a couple of months, say, in UK waters, any ship will have a magnetic field similar to its surrounding, due to slowly perming up. Move that ship to the Mediterranean, and it's magnetic field sticks out like a sore thumb. For this reason, ships were built with 3 magnetic coils surrounding the hull, which could be electrified to produce a magnetic field which cancelled out the field of the ship. The Dowty ranges allowed the scanning of ships and rapid calculation of the settings of these coils.

    • @Raptor3388
      @Raptor3388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had no idea a ship has a significant magnetic field, let alone one that varied with the sea it’s in, this is a very interesting bit of info.

    • @johnjephcote7636
      @johnjephcote7636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was essential for a minesweeper (even if built of wood and aluminium) to get periodic degaussing over buried undersea cables.

    • @shawnmiller4781
      @shawnmiller4781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can see parts of the degaussing system if you ever do a tour of the “Lane Victory” a victory ship preserved in LA Harbor

    • @cosmoray9750
      @cosmoray9750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roger Waters: Response to Nancy ...
      th-cam.com/video/98WH8K2Wjck/w-d-xo.html

    • @mikebeard8505
      @mikebeard8505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice reply with the exception of correcting the pronunciation. Why be arrogant? Is it that important to be right?

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I believe a post-war Vickers transport, possibly the Viking, was designed to use up a surplus of Wellington centre sections, (wing, motors and undercarriage) whose production had outstripped the fuselages.

  • @downwindchecklist6567
    @downwindchecklist6567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of those videos that I had to save for a moment when I would have time to focus and enjoy.
    The Wellington was truly a formidable design and flown by very brave crews.
    I recently built a balsa model of one and I am hoping to get it to fly at some point (build videos and first crash on my channel)
    Thank you for all the research and editing work to put these together!

  • @raoulcaliente1030
    @raoulcaliente1030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Consistently well produced and informative with just the right amount of snark.

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I feel like I should've heard of an airborne minesweeper. All those old "Strangest warplanes ever" books are too German focused.

  • @Deviation4360
    @Deviation4360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had a model of the Whimpie as a kid. I remember the box art showed one in flames going down rather unflatteringly. I always thought the fuel dump pipes were some fancy exhaust system until thay were accidently broken of during play. The model was inherently strong and lasted for some time until dads epoxy had encrusted the smaller parts too much to warrant reattachment.

  • @tiss0006
    @tiss0006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have to say, this video series inspired me to buy a 1/48 scale Wellington Mk III to build

    • @ivancho5854
      @ivancho5854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, 1/48th scale - it'll be massive! I can remember building a 1/72 Airfix kit as a boy. It seems like yesterday. I can faintly recall that the kit was black before painting, but I'm not certain. Such great fun.
      All the best Eric and I hope that you enjoy your build.

  • @Anton_Chigurh_2007
    @Anton_Chigurh_2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very well done research and presentation, I learned a lot of things. Thank you.

  • @CrazyCodger
    @CrazyCodger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TIL, the ford flathead also found mines in britain! an amazing bit of trivia!

  • @darkshardshoots
    @darkshardshoots 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My grandfather was a recon pilot until he burst an eardrum and then moved over to aircraft transfer and pilot training. The Wellington and Halifax were his least favourite aircraft to fly, he complained about both of them being horrifically underpowered. Was about all he really spoke about from his time as a Pilot in the War...

  • @Dilley_G45
    @Dilley_G45 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know the RAF had those as well and also before the Luftwaffe. A number of Ju 52s was converted similarly.

  • @Suhhhhhhhhhhhhduuuuuuude
    @Suhhhhhhhhhhhhduuuuuuude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rex, I am so glad to have stumbled upon your channel. The level of detail and the way you present information is wonderful. Keep up the great work! You've certainly earned a long time viewer, cheers.

  • @maryclarafjare
    @maryclarafjare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent, excellent video! I can't imagine how long it takes to edit all this , write the script , and get all the audio on there.
    Very well done and so informative!

  • @benholroyd5221
    @benholroyd5221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "You say you need a Wellington Bomber for test drops. They're worth their weight in gold. Do you really think the authorities will lend you one? What possible argument could I put forward to get you a Wellington?"
    Barnes Wallis: "Well, if you told them I designed it, do you think that might help?"

    • @Simon_Nonymous
      @Simon_Nonymous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A great line - but almost certainly fictional.

    • @owen368
      @owen368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Simon_Nonymous Believe it was true but can't prove it.

    • @nicholasbell9017
      @nicholasbell9017 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you dropped that in..! From the "Dambusters" film, a scene in which Barnes Wallis goes to the Air Ministry to ask for a test aircraft to adapt for trials of his "Upkeep" weapon.
      From what I have read, he had ears in the ministry, and some support, but, a great moment from a superb movie!

  • @stoopingfalcon891
    @stoopingfalcon891 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The basic design concept of the Wellington shows just how much of a genius Barnes Wallace was. How many other types of aircraft could be modified into so many variants?

  • @womble321
    @womble321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Have you thought about covering the Catalinas with rear firing hedgehogs. They basically stuck a magnetic mine fuse at the back. They over flew the target twice to see if it was moving, on the third run the rockets fired on the indication and by by Uboat!

  • @guywillson1549
    @guywillson1549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There was a Wellington that was used as an engine tested at RAE Weybridge. I saw a photo of it with a pair of RR Dart turbo props as used in the Vickers Viscount and Fokker F27.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Six Lincoln bombers were also fitted with RR Dart turboprop engines and used for bombing trials in Australia from 50,000 ft…

    • @guywillson1549
      @guywillson1549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allangibson8494 interesting indeed. Vickers Viking was a development of the 'wimpey'; it was a wonder that they did not engine them with Darts. There was the 'Lancastrian' too. Did that not have 2 jet engines and 2 Merlins? I suppose the Avro York was limited in her capacity for passengers but the Americans had a huge advantage of her transports for post-war civil aviation.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@guywillson1549 To really make use of turboprop engines for civilian service you need a pressurised cabin. Fokker showed the way with the Friendship (which was a pressurised extrapolation of the preWW2 DC-5 that Fokker sold to KLM).
      The “Whale” Wellingtons showed the problems with a simple conversion.
      Turboprops have to cruise at above 20,000 ft to get cold enough air to be efficient. Pure jets need 30,000 ft.
      Modern passenger jets are limited to 45,000ft because of the survival time on oxygen required to get to 14,000ft.
      (At 50,000ft loss of consciousness occurs 30seconds after loss of pressurisation without a pressure fed oxygen system).

    • @guywillson1549
      @guywillson1549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allangibson8494 thanks, that's interesting.

  • @Nastyswimmer
    @Nastyswimmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:30 - degaussing : "gauss" rhymes with "house". The gauss is the SI unit of magnetic flux, named after Johann Carl Friedrich Gauss.

  • @stevewright4576
    @stevewright4576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's not "degauzing" it's de-Gaussing, Gauss's law for magnetism can be written in two forms, a differential form and an integral form. These forms are equivalent due to the divergence theorem. I am far far nerdier than anyone reading. Yes, its a competition....

  • @Kilo12117
    @Kilo12117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Rex great pt2 Video about the Wellington. Just thought you'd like to know as interest, in March 1940 No.2 General Reconnaissance Unit Formed at RAF Bircham Newton, in Norfolk they operated them from there for around 2 months before moving on. I'm Chairman of the RAF Bircham Newton Heritage Centre, I was told by an elderly gentleman who visited us a on one of our open days a fer weeks ago who's now in his early 90s, he lived in the area at the time as a young boy he and his friends used to wait every morning in the nearby village for the Wellington DWIs to pass overhead flying out of Bircham Newton heading towards the North Sea. He told me it was an incredible sight to see one of them flying something he'll never forget.

  • @MajorT0m
    @MajorT0m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am most enjoying this spate of videos covering the more insane aircraft good sir 👍

  • @monostripezebras
    @monostripezebras 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Whats interesting that germans used the same on a Ju52s with a formation called "Minensuchgruppe Mausi"

  • @thomasb.higginspese2932
    @thomasb.higginspese2932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a very interesting and informative video. Well done! The geodetic airframe deserves further comment. I understand that they were difficult to destroy.

  • @sjTHEfirst
    @sjTHEfirst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lancasters, Fortresses, and Liberators get all the press. But this workhorse is another unsung heroes of the war.

  • @egmccann
    @egmccann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool followup.

  • @tsbrownie
    @tsbrownie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And here we see the origin of the UFO "flying saucer".

  • @demos113
    @demos113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lovely stuff, wishing you a continued recovery. 🙂

  • @stevewarren4292
    @stevewarren4292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The U-boats used to submerge during the day and hunted mostly by sound then surface during the hours of darkness to run on diesel to recharge the batteries. The loud diesel engines meant the look outs could not hear a nearby aircraft. After homing in with radar and lining up on the U-boat, the first the look outs would know of the approaching aircraft was when the Leigh light was switched on. The Germans developed a radar detector, but the super-hetrodyne receiver gave off its own faint signal, so the British developed a radar detector-detector. All this made U-boats less and less effective.

  • @joshuaharlow4241
    @joshuaharlow4241 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The wellington was indeed a workhorse, it does not get the recognition it deserves!!! Thank You Rex!!!!

  • @johnhargreaves3620
    @johnhargreaves3620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A Barnes Wallace designed airframe carrying a Barnes Wallace designed bomb. At the Vickers works at Barrow in Furness is a blue plaque to Barnes Wallace for his time designing airships built there. I spent time there in his shadow making totally different weapons.

    • @UguysRnuts
      @UguysRnuts ปีที่แล้ว

      Barnes Wallis, not "Wallace" stood on the shoulders of men such as Nevil Shute, without whom the Wellington would not have existed.

  • @rudywoodcraft9553
    @rudywoodcraft9553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've read tons of ww2 history and never heard of the wellington rigged to trigger magnetic mines...great stuff

    • @kratzikatz1
      @kratzikatz1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Ju 52 was used for the same role with a similar device , called Mausi-Schleife.

  • @timcameron9023
    @timcameron9023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As mentioned on your previous vid, my dear old dad was a navigator in the RAAF, flying Coastal Command Wimpys. He told me about the magnetic ring thing when I was a little kid, also there is a photo somewhere, looking UP at a lighthouse, taken out his window as they passed by at 'low' level :-) Also, I think Coastal Command paint schemes make the Wellington look super cool.

  • @johndell3642
    @johndell3642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent Video - but you missed out on one of the strangest but most prescient Wellington variants - The AWACs Wellington (Ic Air Controlled Interception) used to vector British night fighters onto German Heinkel III bombers that were air-launching VI doodlebugs towards Britain from over the North Sea.

    • @BlackMasterRoshi
      @BlackMasterRoshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      very interesting. I would also like to know more about the jet engine equipped wellingtons. I wonder about their top speed and thrust characteristics.

  • @andrewcomerford264
    @andrewcomerford264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bristol actually won the B1/39 contract (8x20mm or 4x40mm in dorsal and ventral turrets) and had begun construction on a prototype, when the project was cancelled in the aftermath of Dunkirk.
    Potentially, these aircraft could've been superb U-boat hunters (large number of depth-charges and Cannon that could fire forwards) but the notion was never seriously entertained.

  • @jonboy9912
    @jonboy9912 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was well worth the wait, a marvellous tribute to one of the best aircraft of WW2. Loved it!!!

  • @verstappen9937
    @verstappen9937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ok I’ve got a huge request because it’s not a traditional video for you. PLEASE make a video on the French Leyat Helicar. Attempt #9 (also haven’t given up on asking for the SU-47 but the Leyat is even more interesting)

  • @admiraltiberius1989
    @admiraltiberius1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Had to delete my original comment because of trolls. But fantastic video as always, you never disappoint.

  • @Rabmac1UK
    @Rabmac1UK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I confess that I have never heard of these, and I have studied WW2 as a hobby most of my life
    Thank You

  • @Postpunk-cx1ph
    @Postpunk-cx1ph 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent stuff. I think your Wellington videos are probably the best you’ve done so far!

  • @jayminor9757
    @jayminor9757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having been an AME for nearly 50 years, I have to think that the Wellington was an aircraft that flight and maintenance crews developed a great loyalty to. Maybe a bit of a love/hate thing but loyalty none the less. “They want us to do What?!!!”

  • @markpatterson4917
    @markpatterson4917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fabulous video one of my favourite aircraft. Learnt a lot never knew about the high altitude version.

  • @mitseraffej5812
    @mitseraffej5812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my uncles was a Wellington captain with the RNZAF during WW2. His aircraft was downed by flak somewhere over Croatia. His crew managed to vacate the aircraft and were captured by Axis forces and repatriated to NZ when hostilities ceased. The story goes that my uncle kept the aircraft upright while his crew jumped out and there was an idea postulated that my uncle may also have survived, getting picked up by Soviet forces. His mother (my grandmother) hung on to this hope until the mid 1960s hoping a telegram would arrive telling her that he had been found alive. No such news ever came.

  • @kratzikatz1
    @kratzikatz1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mineclearing device was called Mausi-Schleife in germany and was attached to a Ju52 too

  • @gordonpeden6234
    @gordonpeden6234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang! I never knew any of this, Great presentation.

  • @ggginforlab
    @ggginforlab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a impressive production!

  • @ronaldfinkelstein6335
    @ronaldfinkelstein6335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did the British try to duplicate the magnetic mines? They would have been useful if they could drop plenty of them near U-boat bases, to make sailing U-Boats in and out very hazardous.

    • @johndell3642
      @johndell3642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The British had actually developed their own magnetic mine even before the war started. It worked on a slightly different principal to the German one. However, they had not put it into full-scale production, unlike the Germans who had hundreds of mines ready to go at the start of the war. The British went on to sow thousands of magnetic mines in the Baltic and off the German coast which the Germans then countered with their own aircraft fitted with a magnetic loop - The Blohm and Voss BV138 and Ju52 were the most widely used German "minesweeeper" aircraft. A considerable number of German submarines were sunk by British mines during WW2 - both contact and magnetic.

  • @TXHoundDawg80
    @TXHoundDawg80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad yer feeling better mate. Love when you have new content out. I consider you the air equal to Drachinifel. Please keep up the good work sir

    • @BlackMasterRoshi
      @BlackMasterRoshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ehh.... maybe?
      I would nominate Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles for that. but he might even go beyond Drach.

  • @michelguevara151
    @michelguevara151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I built a model of this 'minesweeper' wellington somewhere in the late 70s.
    the ring was a complete bind to set.
    it was either a tamiya or airfix kit with a sub surfacing on the carton image.

  • @jimdavis8391
    @jimdavis8391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ideal to relax and enjoy on a Sunday night, thanks!

  • @samrodian919
    @samrodian919 ปีที่แล้ว

    An excellent video Rex many of these variants I had never heard of. But I knew about the degaussing and Leigh Light variants. You must have spent a great deal of time researching this one episode, so thank you for all your efforts! And hopefully your asthma gets better.

  • @davidcolin6519
    @davidcolin6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for this video. I had seen pictures of the DWI in my now distant youth, but had never been able to find any information on it, so that is one thing that you have solved for me.
    As an aside, my uncle must have worked on those jet engine tests, as he was on Frank Whittle's team and actually ran the test program. You probably already know of Bob Feilden.

  • @JonBon
    @JonBon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely top class video! Never heard of this aircraft before!
    Hope this minor observation helps - the mine recovered from the Thames would have been laid at 'high tide'. Hence it dried out unexpectantly and revealed itself at 'low tide'.

    • @UguysRnuts
      @UguysRnuts ปีที่แล้ว

      I hadn't seen your reply before posting the same thing. Rex is NOT a mariner.

  • @thomasrotweiler
    @thomasrotweiler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another excellent video. Look forward to more :)

  • @TheDkeeler
    @TheDkeeler ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow what an interesting fact filled video! Thank you Rex .

  • @grrlpurpleable
    @grrlpurpleable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent follow-up episode Rex! :)

  • @RetroGamesCollector
    @RetroGamesCollector 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been looking forward to this video for a while now and it didn't disappoint! Thank you for doing the Wimpy justice and I hope you are feeling much better now.

  • @mgbrv8
    @mgbrv8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew a ex RAF pilot that had retired Texas in the early 90s. His name was Fred Leach. He was well known and liked in the Harlingen Texas chapter of the CAF. He flew the magnetic wellingtons and then after that he flew Lancasters where he became famous/infamous for his technique when spotted by Searchlight. He would dive directly into the light with his guns blazing. People thought he was mad but he survived the war. He also flew in the damn busting raids.

    • @UguysRnuts
      @UguysRnuts ปีที่แล้ว

      133 Air crew participated in Operation Chastise, the "damn(sic) busting raids". There is no "Fred Leach" included on the lists. I'm afraid you've been sucked in with yet another example of 'Stolen Valour'. His claim of "diving into the spotlights" is nonsense and not conducive with returning to base, ergo I put little weight in him ever having set foot in a Wellington, never mind a "magnetic" one. Those considering this fraudster "mad" were probably right. How ironic his name should be "Leach".

  • @sameaseverybodyelse
    @sameaseverybodyelse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool, I've been patiently waiting for the follow-up. If I've nothing else to add, you've won me over.

  • @N0rdman
    @N0rdman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A slight correction here, from someone who has actually been working with both dropping and clearing of sea mines both along the Swedish coast but also mine clearing operations off the coast of the Baltic countries when they became independent nations; mines usually are not laid to be floating on the surface, that would become a danger and a nuisance to all shipping including your own, you normally anchor mines on the seabed and set the depth to be just below the surface deep enough to avoid smaller shipping to hit them.
    There were instances where you dropped mines to drift to enemy shipping but that was generally practiced on few occasions like in the Dardanelles during the first world war by the Turks against the Entente warships, mostly pre-dreadnoughts and HMS Queen Elisabeth and other smaller vessels.
    After the first world war, most drift mines were by accident as the mines broke their mooring lines.

  • @markevans4452
    @markevans4452 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember being shown a photo by my Mum and Dad of the Queen Mum visiting the Vickers factory at Broughton whilst they were building Wellingtons.
    My great gran was in the pic working on it at the time.
    She loved working there

  • @frankeimer3906
    @frankeimer3906 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks for your uploads on the aerial weapons of ww2.From this older Canuck.

  • @bigfootproductions749
    @bigfootproductions749 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the wellyair passenger thanking the pilot after the most alarming landing imaginable might be more British than anything I've heard in a while.

  • @navret1707
    @navret1707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    30 - 60 foot altitude. OMG! I logged over 4000 hours flight time in P-3’s. I spent many hours at or below 200 feet and that can be attention grabbing. It wouldn’t take a very big hiccup to dip a wing or nose in. Besides getting the crap beat out of you due to low altitude it was probably like driving over a washboard.
    And! I bet it drove the magnetic compasses nuts to say nothing about other susceptible equipment aboard.

  • @PosisDas
    @PosisDas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m currently paused at less than a minute in. Seriously, no need to apologize for a delayed video due to health issues. You put out amazing content. You owe us nothing, we owe you for the work and dedication you put into making such entertaining and incredibly informative videos.

  • @williammcintosh712
    @williammcintosh712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are fantastic, not long found this channel and now binge watching your videos.

  • @drydogg
    @drydogg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I must say, you have a very smooth, calming voice; I felt my eyelids dip once as you were hypnotizing me. This is not a criticism; keep up the great work!

  • @Willsoffe46
    @Willsoffe46 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely loved this video! Well researched and super interesting content.

  • @TheBuccy
    @TheBuccy ปีที่แล้ว

    On a hospital visit I was privileged to have met a former service man who flew on the mine clearing Wellington missions after the war in Europe.
    He said that the concussion from the explosion could be felt as the mines exploded.
    He told me of his time in The RN as an electronics expert and his experiences in the Far East and the end of his service in the North Cape listening in on Soviet communications.
    I wish I had recorded the conversation , it wax fascinating.

  • @robertlyon2926
    @robertlyon2926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info , I spent a life time in in aviation and thought Id seen it all . Thank you

  • @thomaskositzki9424
    @thomaskositzki9424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top job, putting this video out despite plague, etc., highly apreciated!
    Now give yourself a rest. :)

  • @emergingloki
    @emergingloki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have to wonder why the searchlight equipped planes weren't fitted with some decent forward firing ordnance. A Mollins gun for example could have put some serious holes in a sub as soon as the light went on. Fixed forward firing almost certainly wouldn't have had the issues of the turreted heavier guns.

    • @birlyballop4704
      @birlyballop4704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In the dark, 4 or 5 shots maximum, keeping the aircraft out of the wet while aiming? Even the much more nimble daytime Molins Mosquito wasn't overwhelmingly successful. Guy in a turret with a pair of 0.303s would be a much better bet, suppressing the U-Boat AA while running in with torp/bomb/depth charge.

  • @leonardhaddrill8842
    @leonardhaddrill8842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoroughly enjoyed this pair of videos.. More videos along this storyline..

  • @aveedub7403
    @aveedub7403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subject matter spot on, well explained and enunciated, in particularly I enjoyed the asides about, covid, asthma etc! I just had covid and seems to take ages to get back to normal! Well done for a very slick production and looking forward to future broadcasts.

  • @paulkendall6069
    @paulkendall6069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good film, I believe the bouncing bomb was called upkeep and was tested in Recolver bay Thanet/Kent.
    How about a film on Barnes Wallis inventor of Upkeep and earthquake bombs (Grand slam and Tall boy) as he did planes too I was told he was taken on Concorde and was reported to have said it wasn't as good as the one one he had designed but wasn't built.