This video is so good!!!! After studying for almost 2 years I finally can understand how this pronunciation works! Sometimes not native teachers can really explain this topic and OMG now I can tell the difference!~ Y tener subtitulos en español le encantará a mi mamá que también intenta a aprender ♡ thank you so much!
OMG ,this exacly like Americans who spell the T like R but they swear that it's D, they cant seems to distinguish that they spell it as R and they think it's sound like D, even my native english teacher (American) told us that it was D and it just us not hearing it right,in words (waTer,exciTed, leTTer..) and that's always confused me
This is called allophony and almost every language has it. The most basic unit of speech is called a phoneme. A phoneme is how we determine the meaning of a word. If you replace one phoneme with another, the meaning changes. So English has a phoneme /b/ and a phoneme /h/. Bat and hat are different words and no one would get them confused. Now, allophony is when one phoneme, like English /t/, can be phonetically pronounced in multiple different ways. The speakers of the language do NOT consider the different phonetic variants of a given phoneme to be different sounds and often can't tell that there's even a difference. Some dialects of English have a phonetic process called T-flapping, in which /t/ can be pronounced as an alveolar flap when it's in the middle of a word. The alveolar flap is what you're referring to as an "r-sound". But /r/ in English is not an alveolar flap. It's a completely different sound called an alveolar approximant. It's actually a pretty rare sound. Not many languages other than English pronounce /r/ that way. That means that English learners often use the wrong sound and that gives them an obvious accent. So anyways, the sound that /t/ makes in the middle of a word does not sound the same as /r/ to an English speaker at all, whether they have T-flapping in their dialect or not. If you think that the sound of /t/ in the middle of a word is the same as English /r/, you're more than likely pronouncing English /r/ incorrectly.
This explains so much, thank you. I even asked some Korean friends why I was hearing mwo as bwo, and they were confused and said no it's mwo. So I definitely thought I was hearing things.
I refer to the old Billy Rose song “I Got A Code In My Doze” (from 1929) when I explain to fellow Korean learners why 네 sounds like [de] and they usually get it.
Excelente video sobre un tema que me causaba mucha confusión pues no puedo replicar el sonido nativo coreano... ¡qué bueno que, aún sin hacerlo, se entiende lo q decimos! Fue una linda sorpresa ver a nuestros dos queridos maestros en este video y ampliando su campo de accion pues, como siempre, la explicacion fue muy clara, completa y didáctica. Mucho éxito Luna y Jin 선생님!
This video is gold. Absolute gold. There is no other video which so accurately explains what's happening. Thank you guys for making this and helping me see I'm not crazy and hearing things lol :D
Thank you ❤I worked out to use the blade of the tongue fron listening and watching korean people speak and also worked out it sounds like you have a cold so im glad i was on the right track.😊
This video is gold! the fact that you have native pronunciation in Spanish and English makes me want to aim high in terms of correct Korean pronunciation. My two Korean books on pronunciation explain these letters as nasal but don’t explain the exemption at the beginning of words, so that kept me wondering if I was mishearing. Your vídeos whether in Spanish or English give me so much hope about learning. Korean. I’m looking forward to your next videos!!
Really impressive! The explanations are very clear and helpful. I love how easily Luna and Jin present such a complex topic. Congratulations! Thank you! ¡Gracias!
Thanx so much for this video!! I have seen a few videos trying to explain this topic to beginning Korean learners, and yours is by far the best and clearest. Hope to see more videos on this channel helping us with pronunciation and comprehension.
Muchas gracias por esta información, definitivamente pagaría porque me deis clases. Gracias infinitas por hacer disponible este material de forma gratuita. Se nota un gran trabajo en la edición. No tengo palabras, sólo un corazón rebosante de agradecimiento hacia ustedes.
This was fascinating. These "conflations" had been vexing me ever since I started watching Extraordinary Attorney Woo and decided to learn some Korean. So nice to have it all explained. Thanks, both of you!
Very good video, almost perfect! I would have added the reasons why this denasalization still does not create confusion with the letters ㅂ and ㄷ and the reasons why :)
As a huge language enthusiast and a teacher myself, I cannnot stress how much I loved this video its content and the ever perfect explanation of Teachers Jin & Luna. Much success, I’ll be waiting eagerly for your videos here 😊
Great video, subbed and excited for more!! I'm a Turkish student of Linguistics learning Korean for the past couple years and the word-initial denasalization was one of the things I was most interested in. I really appreciated the pastel color palette and your calm, fluent speech. Their relaxing effect makes it that much easier to focus. Really a breath of fresh air among all the hyper stimulating content demanding attention on the internet. Keep it up!! 😌👍🏼
JIN WON, ME ENCANTARIA SABER COMO HAS APRENDIDO ESPANOL E INGLES TAN BIEN! I'VE BEEN LEARNING ENGLISH FOR 3 YEARS AND NOW I WANT TO LEARN KOREAN TOO! 🥰🥰 AS ALWAYS YOUR EXPLANATION IS EXCELENT
Quelle belle découverte que ce site. J'ai fait un peu de linguistique et concernant cette question, je me disais que les Coréens devaient utiliser différemment le voile du palais. Et la présentation est très claire! Denise Gendron, Québec
Excelente explicación me quedo más que claro la duda que tenía, un nuevo canal que de seguro se un éxito , esperando con ansias el próximo vídeo d sus dos canales en TH-cam saludos de Perú
Yeah I'm linking people this video because this is legit what's going on lol. The ㅁ sounds like ㅂ because it is ㅂ lol. ㅂ is just ㅁ without nasalization and with a small amount of aspiration. Link this to anyone that's is studying Korean imo.
Hello there, new to your !! I m an Indian , from Spain and have been watching k-dramas to try and pick up some korean. I have no prior knowledge of Korean language but I m so in love with it. After coming across this video of yours i m elated that I m picking up words correctly with sounds Like m, k, l, ch, j I m so in love with the sounds and intonations of korean., hopefully someday i can go to language school to learn it properly This video is very educative with illustrations. Love it! Gam sa ham ni da!
Vengo de los videos en español. En serio ustedes son unos genios, hablan español perfecto y ahora me encuentro con que su inglés también lo es. De verdad que los admiro demasiado ❤
Me gusta mucho la manera de explicar de los maestros. Realmente su pedagogía es muy buena y he aprendido mucho con su metodología. Gracias por seguir compartiendo su conocimiento.
good know 😁 I can't always hear subtle differences in words... so Korean may be a spec hard for me in some areas (like how a lot of the w vowels *which I am still working through* sound similar to the normal vowels) 😵💫
This is an unfortunate product of how the human brain works. When you learn your first language as a child, your brain filters out all the sounds that your first language doesn't use which makes it really hard to hear the other sounds. Lucily you can tune the sounds back in after a lot of work
thank you i love you i thought i was crazy for noticing this when none of the korean learning resources i saw mentioned this, but everyone was doing it in practice!
Oh wow. You guys are just amazing. Your video just popped up on my feed, the manner you guys talk is super impressive and I understand why because of your educational background. You guys are very smart🤯😍
This channel is a hidden gem. Thank you so much! I find this topic extremely interesting and very useful now that I'm learning Korean. Many of my classmates do pronounce 네 in a denasalized way because of their experience with dramas, however, this caused confusion among us. I hope I can find more interesting linguistic features of Korean in my journey.
Thanks for watching our video! If you speak Spanish, you might also want to check out our TH-cam channel in Spanish: th-cam.com/users/hablocoreano ☺
What a happy intersection of content!
thank you, i thought i was crazy
HAHAHA BRUH😭😭
me too bro
Hahaha true story. I feel you bro
Same, my korean friends were getting angry and saying they have no idea what I'm talking about when I was mentioning this topic
me: is it "ne" or "de" ??
koreans: yes
me: 💀
teuida! i like your service
oh my god!!!! This is the single most useful video on korean pronunciation! Thank you so much!
Totally agree this has just made my learning classes so much easier!
This is my ult m/b, n/d pronunciation video ❤! I wish I found it before I found the misleading ones 😅
I liked so much. I would record this video and the next Inés !!!
This video is so good!!!! After studying for almost 2 years I finally can understand how this pronunciation works! Sometimes not native teachers can really explain this topic and OMG now I can tell the difference!~ Y tener subtitulos en español le encantará a mi mamá que también intenta a aprender ♡ thank you so much!
We are looking forward to more Korean linguistics videos!
That’s a great explanation. I was finally able to mimic the sounds properly. Thank you ☺️
OMG ,this exacly like Americans who spell the T like R but they swear that it's D, they cant seems to distinguish that they spell it as R and they think it's sound like D, even my native english teacher (American) told us that it was D and it just us not hearing it right,in words (waTer,exciTed, leTTer..) and that's always confused me
This is called allophony and almost every language has it. The most basic unit of speech is called a phoneme. A phoneme is how we determine the meaning of a word. If you replace one phoneme with another, the meaning changes. So English has a phoneme /b/ and a phoneme /h/. Bat and hat are different words and no one would get them confused.
Now, allophony is when one phoneme, like English /t/, can be phonetically pronounced in multiple different ways. The speakers of the language do NOT consider the different phonetic variants of a given phoneme to be different sounds and often can't tell that there's even a difference.
Some dialects of English have a phonetic process called T-flapping, in which /t/ can be pronounced as an alveolar flap when it's in the middle of a word. The alveolar flap is what you're referring to as an "r-sound". But /r/ in English is not an alveolar flap. It's a completely different sound called an alveolar approximant. It's actually a pretty rare sound. Not many languages other than English pronounce /r/ that way. That means that English learners often use the wrong sound and that gives them an obvious accent.
So anyways, the sound that /t/ makes in the middle of a word does not sound the same as /r/ to an English speaker at all, whether they have T-flapping in their dialect or not. If you think that the sound of /t/ in the middle of a word is the same as English /r/, you're more than likely pronouncing English /r/ incorrectly.
Finally a logical explanation thank you 😅
I thought I was crazy every time I heard 네 with a D sound, thank you!
Thankyou its was helpul
Thank you so much!!! This explains so much! Look forward to the next video 😊
This explains so much, thank you. I even asked some Korean friends why I was hearing mwo as bwo, and they were confused and said no it's mwo. So I definitely thought I was hearing things.
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing primarily source. Very helpful.
I refer to the old Billy Rose song “I Got A Code In My Doze” (from 1929) when I explain to fellow Korean learners why 네 sounds like [de] and they usually get it.
I was so sure that my ears were broken! Thanks you for reassuring me!
As a linguistics student who also loves studying Korean in my free time, I loved these very clear explanations, thank you 😊
I hope this account makes new videos in the future, learning this was helpful and fun.
So helpful! Please do more videos!
Wish they would have continued with this channel.😞😞 Started off with a great video.
Excelente video sobre un tema que me causaba mucha confusión pues no puedo replicar el sonido nativo coreano... ¡qué bueno que, aún sin hacerlo, se entiende lo q decimos! Fue una linda sorpresa ver a nuestros dos queridos maestros en este video y ampliando su campo de accion pues, como siempre, la explicacion fue muy clara, completa y didáctica. Mucho éxito Luna y Jin 선생님!
This video is gold. Absolute gold. There is no other video which so accurately explains what's happening.
Thank you guys for making this and helping me see I'm not crazy and hearing things lol :D
Thank you ❤I worked out to use the blade of the tongue fron listening and watching korean people speak and also worked out it sounds like you have a cold so im glad i was on the right track.😊
You are the absolute best teacher! Thank you so much!
Ok, this is an exceptional explanation, especially for someone just starting learning Korean. Thank you so much!
This video is gold! the fact that you have native pronunciation in Spanish and English makes me want to aim high in terms of correct Korean pronunciation. My two Korean books on pronunciation explain these letters as nasal but don’t explain the exemption at the beginning of words, so that kept me wondering if I was mishearing. Your vídeos whether in Spanish or English give me so much hope about learning. Korean. I’m looking forward to your next videos!!
Omg, this just appeared in my feed and I'm here now. I was your fan in Spanish chanel, obviously I'm also here.
Really impressive! The explanations are very clear and helpful. I love how easily Luna and Jin present such a complex topic. Congratulations! Thank you! ¡Gracias!
Thanx so much for this video!! I have seen a few videos trying to explain this topic to beginning Korean learners, and yours is by far the best and clearest. Hope to see more videos on this channel helping us with pronunciation and comprehension.
Love the vid. But actually I'm having more trouble with the 'ㄹ' character. Kind of confusing when should I pronounce it like an 'L' or an 'R'.
It depends on the word 로마 loma but 나라 nara
Muchas gracias por esta información, definitivamente pagaría porque me deis clases. Gracias infinitas por hacer disponible este material de forma gratuita. Se nota un gran trabajo en la edición. No tengo palabras, sólo un corazón rebosante de agradecimiento hacia ustedes.
Por fin puedo entender el “porqué” de esas diferencias de sonido! Gracias!
This video was really helpful!
This was fascinating. These "conflations" had been vexing me ever since I started watching Extraordinary Attorney Woo and decided to learn some Korean. So nice to have it all explained. Thanks, both of you!
Very good video, almost perfect! I would have added the reasons why this denasalization still does not create confusion with the letters ㅂ and ㄷ and the reasons why :)
That is precisely what we plan to talk about in our future videos. Thanks for watching our video. :)
I just love the way u guys explain the pronunciation. Brilliant! and Thank you!
여긴 두번째 명상을 기다리고 있어요
Please make more content! This was so very helpful!
Thank you, I’ve been looking into this for quite awhile ! Mystery solved 💕😀
tysm !! It's really helpful..
Fantastic explanation. As a beginner in learning Korean language, it makes more sense now. Thank you!!
That's different 😵 very indepth
Finally a goog explanation :-)
Thank you for this video. Your explanation is so scientific.
Why there is only one video on your channel 😢 The most comprehensive but easy to understand on YT. Please give use some tips for ㄹ, ㅂ, ㄱ, ㄷ
You both are really great teachers. Waiting for the next videos.
this video was so helpful especially the examples
Thanks for your very clear explanation. It has really helped me understand the reason these letters always sound the way they do.
This is so helpful! I was always wondering if I was just hearing it wrong!
I need to learn more!! I’m glad this channel was recommended. I try to learn how to read Korean but all of the different consonants….
Wow! You do a great job! Thanks!
Wow, this is very interesting. Never thought about or heard the difference. Now I can hear it. Thank you 😀
Hi, I come back of the vídeo of these Chanel but for Spanish persons
Muy clara explicacion de una de las dudas mas comunes cuando empezamos a aprender coreano. Muchas gracias!
I love these videos!!! I need to watching again.
Please have more videos. ❤
I really have a headache because of this
Now I can relax and study again
Thank you for explaining 🙏
As a huge language enthusiast and a teacher myself, I cannnot stress how much I loved this video its content and the ever perfect explanation of Teachers Jin & Luna. Much success, I’ll be waiting eagerly for your videos here 😊
I've been learning korean for a long time but this just blew my mind
Great video, subbed and excited for more!! I'm a Turkish student of Linguistics learning Korean for the past couple years and the word-initial denasalization was one of the things I was most interested in. I really appreciated the pastel color palette and your calm, fluent speech. Their relaxing effect makes it that much easier to focus. Really a breath of fresh air among all the hyper stimulating content demanding attention on the internet. Keep it up!! 😌👍🏼
Thank God… Pensaba que estaba loca o que mis oídos no funcionaban bien 🥹 Muchas gracias por el vídeo 🙏
Very helpful... Thanks a lot for the explanation...
Next l need explanation about r/l
Bless🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 thank you sm this was so helpful ive looked for so long for some one to explain the phonology with ipa thank you!!
JIN WON, ME ENCANTARIA SABER COMO HAS APRENDIDO ESPANOL E INGLES TAN BIEN! I'VE BEEN LEARNING ENGLISH FOR 3 YEARS AND NOW I WANT TO LEARN KOREAN TOO! 🥰🥰
AS ALWAYS YOUR EXPLANATION IS EXCELENT
오! 이 비디오를 마음에 들었어요, 선생님들이 멋있어요 그리고 감사합니다 정말~^^
Nice video ❤❤make please also more video because I want to learning Korean language ❤
Thank you so much for this video. This is by far the most thorough and detailed video I’ve seen on this topic. Looking forward to more videos!
Quelle belle découverte que ce site. J'ai fait un peu de linguistique et concernant cette question, je me disais que les Coréens devaient utiliser différemment le voile du palais. Et la présentation est très claire!
Denise Gendron, Québec
Excelente explicación me quedo más que claro la duda que tenía, un nuevo canal que de seguro se un éxito , esperando con ansias el próximo vídeo d sus dos canales en TH-cam saludos de Perú
Gracias 진 선생님❤ 새 프로젝트를 축하해요🎉
this was so helpful! I watched ttmik video about this and it was so misleading!
Yeah I'm linking people this video because this is legit what's going on lol.
The ㅁ sounds like ㅂ because it is ㅂ lol. ㅂ is just ㅁ without nasalization and with a small amount of aspiration.
Link this to anyone that's is studying Korean imo.
Llevo meses preguntándome por qué sucede eso jaja, muchas gracias!
me encanta profe, si en Español das paz en inglés es una delicia oírte , gracias
The word "español" is not capitalised when it is referring to the language. Please learn Spanish before commenting.
Are you not going to release videos for this channel anymore? Thanks for the awesome content.
Hello. We do plan to release more videos in the future although we do not have exact dates as of yet. Thanks for watching our video :)
Estas eran dudas enormes que tenía
¡¡¡Muchas gracias!!!🙏 Los mejores como siempre 🤗🤗🤗
This video is very helpful thank you so much😇🥰🙏💖
Excellent! I want more videos as this!
Hello there, new to your !!
I m an Indian , from Spain and have been watching k-dramas to try and pick up some korean. I have no prior knowledge of Korean language but I m so in love with it. After coming across this video of yours i m elated that I m picking up words correctly with sounds Like m, k, l, ch, j
I m so in love with the sounds and intonations of korean., hopefully someday i can go to language school to learn it properly This video is very educative with illustrations. Love it! Gam sa ham ni da!
THIS IS GOLD!!!
Thanks!!
I hope you will continue to make videos
Vengo de los videos en español. En serio ustedes son unos genios, hablan español perfecto y ahora me encuentro con que su inglés también lo es. De verdad que los admiro demasiado ❤
Wow what an amazing video, I’m super stoked to see future content for this channel!! 감사합니다:)
Perfect video! Thank you!
this was so helpful, thank you so much. i need more videos from you guys
Me gusta mucho la manera de explicar de los maestros. Realmente su pedagogía es muy buena y he aprendido mucho con su metodología. Gracias por seguir compartiendo su conocimiento.
good know 😁 I can't always hear subtle differences in words... so Korean may be a spec hard for me in some areas (like how a lot of the w vowels *which I am still working through* sound similar to the normal vowels) 😵💫
This is an unfortunate product of how the human brain works. When you learn your first language as a child, your brain filters out all the sounds that your first language doesn't use which makes it really hard to hear the other sounds. Lucily you can tune the sounds back in after a lot of work
Ealeeee aprendo coreano y mejoró mi inglés. Todo eun uno! Muchas gracias por este lindo e interesante video!
Best explanation of this on YT I’ve seen so far, thank you!
Ah..i was so confused between de and ne for yes 😀
thank you i love you i thought i was crazy for noticing this when none of the korean learning resources i saw mentioned this, but everyone was doing it in practice!
@thekoreanlinguist this is great information. Please post some more videos.
Oh wow. You guys are just amazing. Your video just popped up on my feed, the manner you guys talk is super impressive and I understand why because of your educational background. You guys are very smart🤯😍
This surely cleared up my confusion about those changing korean consonant sounds! Thank you very much!👍👍
This video is so insightful 👏🏽
Es inglés? Jajaja 🤣 yo creo que entiendo más coreano profe... Cero inglés. I love forever jajaak
Este video es oro
Me encanta!!
he aprendido mucho en estos 10 minutos de mi vida, gracias profesores son geniales
Thank you!!! 💙
This channel is a hidden gem. Thank you so much! I find this topic extremely interesting and very useful now that I'm learning Korean. Many of my classmates do pronounce 네 in a denasalized way because of their experience with dramas, however, this caused confusion among us. I hope I can find more interesting linguistic features of Korean in my journey.