I still cant believe they used stunt doubles for a simple cuddling scene Like chase and Maddie literally dated then had a rough break up and still stayed professional😭😭😭
lowkey.. that's why you see chase and maddie in many other project and not the former two.. then again ive nvr watched this show, they are the two i always see popping up online
getting jealous over CHARACTERS getting together in a show/ not in real life is crazyyy imo. if they’re shipping them in real life ok but otherwise let’s grow up
yeah well the problem still remains these super creepy people who think that celebrities are objects that they can ship with other real people and go harass the respective partners
Not me the elder millennial who has admittedly never watched this show a day in my life thinking this was a reality show every time I heard about it lol
*SPOILER ALERT* If they knew that they wanted to kill JJ off in the earlier seasons why did they create a slow burn like that just to give us nothing at the end. His death did not make sense at all.
SPOILER ALERT 🚨 I think his death was okay, because that was the point if his character, he can never have anything good in his life. So him not having a happy ending is very on character, however I do feel like the way he died was so… underwhelming- SPOILER ALERT 🚨 Like I was looking for a more dramatic death like Sarah’s dad.
To play advocate. Shows do this all the time. Mainly for shock value and etc. The Walking Dead w/ Glenn and Maggie for example. Their relationship was everybody’s fav & everybody knew Glen would die eventually, but his death still created a HUGE outbreak
@@saigie3908 the thing is this show is not that type of show at all. And the actor talked back in the day how he hoped that jj was a beacon of hope for people that grew up in an abusive environment like him. They build this slow burn romance and then gave nothing. And after everything he endured growing up, in part 2 of this season they totally tortured him to then die in agony. It doesn't go at all with this show it was traumatizing for the viewers and it was sh*t writing too. You can just tell this came out of nowhere.
if you are in a secure relationship you wouldn't do this much drama. Idk what happened between these two but it was obviously not the because of the fans. All i know is that their personal bs ruined such a beautiful show that wasn't at all the type of killing a main character. Specially when JJ was the most abused kid and he just kept suffering til he died in agony. Not leaving any legacy. His whole story was POINTLESS. This was just cruel and it was obviously not planned at all.
idk its obvious to me that this happened because of the fans. fans have been sending tons and tons of hate for like years. im talking dth threts. i get that actors should still stay professional, but at the end of the day, the actors are human beings with feelings. and stuff like this does get to them at some point. you guys did too much and pushed him out of the show. and now these same fans are acting clueless as to what is going on, poitning fingers at the actors, as if they didn't cause all of this lol.
@@aya-_-3045 that happened years ago in 2020 when they were so close all that stopped years ago and they were still fine. something bigger and private happend between them. Please even the creators that treated his gf as a daughter are involved. this topic of "fans caused this" is just stupid. fans won't make them have beef.
I was waiting to watch this season till I got back from my trip but I guess I just had to watch this video because I spoiled myself looking at the comments before watching.
honestly it’s just sad, i remember being super into outer banks in 2020 when it first came out, and madison and rudy were super close. it’s clear SOMETHING happened but i don’t think it’s fair to point fingers since none of us were there. i just feel bad that they couldn’t work it out.
They probably couldn't work it out due to their relationships (partners) as someone whos been in that position ive had to cut friends off due to feelings being invloved and me being in a relationship. you're going to put your relationship first because that's who you plan to marry imo. but also like you said its not fair to point fingers! just assuming
outer banks will never be as good as it was in season one. the whole reason people shipped jj and kiara in the first place was because rudy and madison were good friends irl so they had natural chemistry. i remember the cast in interviews talking about how a lot of the scenes with jj and kie weren’t even scripted, they were just random moments that they filmed. every season after that the chemistry has been lacking between the two imo
That's my exact thought...now when they give interviews or take pictures they sit or stand far away from each other...they don't even keep eye contact and they don't have a chemistry at allll in the show...
right i think even the writers said they made jj and kie romantically involved bc of all of the shipping and the extreme fan demand. i honestly never saw their chemistry on screen but i didn’t hate it or wanted jj to die ☹️ but that’s already said and done with so there’s no use in dwelling bout it. i’ve cried enough seeing him die 😭
Personally as a fan of the show, I think it should have ended in season 3. They finally got the treasure and it felt as though all loose ends were tied up. This season felt completely different as they had to come up with new conflict and story lines, and I was surprised by this death because all of them have the craziest plot armor, like Sarah getting shot and getting sewed up by some back alley doctor. I can’t imagine season 5 will be any better.
Omg yes! For me the show ended when they have built Pogelandia, you know the house and everything. Like JJ betting the rest of the money was such a stupid decision!! I know that the 5th season will just be soooo awkward and I am essentially just watching in because of Rafe/Drew because he is an amazing actor.
@@simplyanotherhuman unrelated to ur comment but i rlly wish rafe and barry would get tgt but i don’t think the writers will give them a gay romance nonetheless the idea of those two being in a relationship is so GREAT to think bout 🙏🏼 what do u think ??
@ YEEEEEEEES I am a Rafe and Barry shipper till my last breath!! I mean not obsessively, like it’s not my every thought but it would be soooo great. Though I have to sadly agree with you I also think that the writers will be to scared to do it😢 but thank you for this comment I love texting with fellow Rafe and Berry shippers, I wish you a lovely morning/day/night wherever you are 🩷🩷
@Jacklyn.S that's a another thing the creators talked about it last year saying they always planned 2 trilogies. El Dorado & Blackbeard. This season started the blackbeard plot and no suddenly they came out saying "no we actually planned 5 seaons" when it's obvious that's happening because with jj dying they need one more season to just wrapping up blackbeard's plot and end the show. That's also why they couldn't just end it here due to rudy leaving, because the plot with blackbeard was just starting. So yeah I wish the show finished in s3 fr. We were starting a new journey that was about to be as great and they ruined it.
@ Absolutely! It was going so good and now that Rudy wanted to leave they are fumbling the whole thing! (I mean it’s not Rudys fault but you know) It’s hard keeping an already great show just as good as it was in the beginning
I might have an unpopular take on this. I want to make it clear that I am an OBX fan and was disappointed to hear that Rudy was leaving the show and it could be due to issues in his friendship with Madison. However, we often dehumanize celebrities. If we look at this from the viewpoint of a traditional employee, if you were unhappy in a job, your contract had just ended, and you had a rocky relationship with one of your coworkers, it isn't unlikely that you would quit. Now consider the fact that in acting as a profession, you have this weird relationship with your coworker, and despite this, you now have to hug, kiss, and have very intimate, long scenes with them where you are pretending to be in love. Furthermore, if you make the decision to no longer continue with the job, a large group of fans are now going to be upset because you prioritized your health and personal relationships. Everyone is saying that Rudy and Madison are immature or letting the fans down. But, Rudy had a job that he decided to quit, he is doing what will make him happy. In addition, he is still doing press and interviews for a job that he will not be continuing. As sad as I am to see him go and that it is possibly from a lost friendship, I think it is unfair to hold him to a standard that we wouldn't expect from someone that isn't in the limelight. My disappointment is that Elaine's history of prejudice wasn't a dealbreaker for him. Realistically, if I was a member of the cast, especially a queer woman of color and my friend/love interest was dating someone with a history of racism and prejudice, it would hurt my friendship with them. Overall, I just think that it is really none of our business and we shouldn't be out here making videos or comments on the decisions that these people who we do not know are making for themselves.
someone pin this comment because this is the most mature take i've seen on this situation. I agree with you 100%, As much as I love Jiara and Rudy, it sucks but it's also kind of valid of Rudy to leave.
@@autumndeneault3481 THANK YOU! Because people are now criticizing Rudy’s acting like they weren’t just crying over JJ’s death? And another unpopular opinion: I don’t think Rudy wants to continue doing even bigger projects as of now & wants to chill for now. But fans are treating it as if he left the show because he wants to do better projects which has led them to criticize his acting. But at the end of the day, we don’t know why Rudy left
Im glad i didnt know all of this. And honestly dont care. It just ruins the magic of the show. I just watch the show enjoy it and move on. Came here cuz they killed my favourite character in the show😂
Here’s a thing I do find it a little immature that Madison and Rudy weren’t able to keep it professional, and it honestly showed, but for some reason, Madeline Cline and Chase Stokes, who have broken up and dated, we were able to keep it professional, and we were able to keep the chemistry
I remember like 2 weeks ago seeing videos of Chase allegedly avoiding hugging Madeline and ignoring her and fans whining about how HE can't be professional and about how HIS girlfriend is insecure.... you guys switch up so much. Probably because all this 'drama' is just bs you've made up inside your own heads. This seems like an interesting show, too bad I'll probably never watch it because the fandom seems excruciating. You guys are literally ruining it for everyone.
What's immature is you fans hating on all these actors to the point where they dont wanna do this show anymore. Madison and Rudy weren't able to "stay professional" literally because of you guys. Madeline and Chase have gotten hate too, but its like a much smaller amount than Rudy and Madison have been getting. Instead of blaming the actors, yall really need to look into your own fandom. Yall have one of the most toxic fandoms I have ever seen.
It’s so annoying because by the time we actually got Jiara they had lost chemistry together. And barely a season later he was killed off. So much for a slow burn relationship.
season 1 madison and rudy would be disappointed as to how everything turned out, we barely got jiara and the time we did, it wasnt emotional or didn’t feel heartfelt due to drama I’m presuming, they made fans wait so long and then gave us half a season and killed jj off, it’s disappointing
I’m sorry but the comments are killing me. The lack of accountability from the fans is the reason why the show’s going downhill. let’s not act like ya’ll were not being extremely parasocial, shipping the actors in real life too.
My kid and I usually pick a TV watch to watch together and Outer Banks has been our current one. But these are actors doing a job, it’s never occured to me to even look them up much less want them to date IRL that’s beyond weird.
I’m watching this show with my brother and we’re both teenagers, I started to ship Kie and JJ in season 2, but to do that to the real actors is crazy and para social.
I worked on the 3rd season as an extra and let me tell you, there was tension. Every time “cut” was yelled, Rudy would walk away from the group while the rest all remained huddled together. Elaina was nice, but always stayed near him. Madison was indifferent. It was definitely weird and not at all what I expected being a fan of the show. 😕
@@wiambekkouche218 Yes sadly 😭 I thought maybe it was just Rudy’s way of staying in character, but literally the scene involved just standing there while the crowd cheered. (It was the final scene of s3 when the mayor addresses them on the last episode)
@uraverageswiftie people began to ship the actors together, made it super inappropriate and then they distanced from each other in interviews and just in general now. But like they still are acting together when they need to
If anything it absolutely proved to me that Rudi and Madison had tension ( and chemistry) Their partners wouldn’t go completely insane if there wasn’t a spark!! You can’t help who you have natural chemistry with but the chemistry on its own doesn’t mean anything!! It doesn’t mean you are going to cheat!! They are actors, having chemistry is literally a part of their job!! They get cast because they have chemistry with each other!! However, They would absolutely be able to stay professional if not for their insanely insecure and controlling partners!! The other person doesn’t become your property, if they want to leave they will, there is no need to turn into psychopaths and ruin their careers!! I would absolutely break up with my partner if he acted this way!! Either trust me or f**k off and stay out of my career!! I don’t ship them for the record, I just realize they are better off alone than with these psychotic „partners“ who prefer to keep them all to themselves and unemployed!! Don’t date a public person and if you are a chronically immature jealous person! Choose someone shy and very lowkey. And sure as f**k don’t date an actor!!
I generally don't understand why people get in a relationship with actors if they know that they're having to do other things on set. like you cant be mad if your gf is kissing someone else (professionally) ...its their job!
True. I know that we don’t fully know what happens behind the scenes but even the ones who actually dated stayed professional-why couldn’t they. Most onscreen couples are shipped but they just say “Thank you” and move on. But in this case I feel that they themselves have highlighted it so much like don’t say this don’t say that, why are you saying this, made this even worse leading people to talk even more. And especially if that ending was because of all this I think it’s absolutely ridiculous. They should have just ended the show with S3. Why kill the whole vibe of the show? I used to love love the show, watching clips of it every now and then but I can’t even bring myself to watch OBX again as I start to think about JJ and what happens to him. They just ruined the show for me.
i think (purely speculation) it’s more so maddison finding out about rudys girlfriend having bigoted takes publicly.. as a coloured, queer woman i’d be pretty hurt too if my bestfriend starting dating someone who blatantly disavows who i am as a person.. my friend knowing this, then staying with them. a lot more has clearly gone on since then, but i’d be willing to bet this is what caused the initial tension which then snowballed into whatever else may have happened after
The other thing too is that there was literally no kissing or hugging between JJ and Kiara like absolutely none. I do think so that Madeline and Chase are really really good terms to the point where they’re friends so I don’t know.
I wish that his death was bigger than it was. Like wards TWO deaths got more reactions from EVERYONE then jj. Like sarah was balling. When john b almost lost sarah he was in ruins screaming. Kiara did good but im still upset she just stood there idk this doesnt feel right
I just wish they would all get along and not listen to the fans that ship Rudy and Madison IRL.. I understand if they're shipping the characters but like if they love their partners then why are they so worried about what the fans have to say? Anyways it sucks overall that their friendship started to to fade because of drama between the fans and their partners being jealous
This seems like it’s stemming from Madison and Rudy’s partners. Almost like they are insecure… they shouldn’t care what the fans say. Every movie and show will always have a fanbase that ships people.
@@tothemoon8223 Maybe it’s the fans that need to grow up and take some accountability for this mess. It’s nothing new that either couples break up because of hateful fans or friendships can end. I’m surprised that people are surprised about how this drama ended. The partners insecure….it’s easy to give them all the fault, but it’s them who got all the hate if I’m not wrong. I mean Rudy and Madison were still loved and shipped by the fans, while their parents were constantly hated on. Probably Madison and Rudy felt guilty, that all the hate came from their fans. People shouldn’t brush off cyber bullying so easily, since I’m sure they didn’t experienced such an attack on a daily basis. It’s unfortunate how all went wrong, and sure Madison and Rudy could definitely acted more professional on screen, but this whole drama should be a lesson for fans and fandoms as well, to do better next time, to stop shipping people IRL just because of some fictional characters, it’s rude and unnecessary and goes to far….. who knows what happened behind the curtains, but fans definitely made everything worse and the end result, the shitty ending of the season and unsatisfying relationship on screen, started all with toxic behavior from the fans….
@@jumoke3192 I don't ship them in real life, When I first watched the show and Rudy and Madison first started posting pics and vids of them I thought they were cute and assumed they were just really good friends. Then Rudy got with Elaine and Madison with Mariah and I never shipped them IRL. I always shipped Kiara and JJ. But you can't stop fans from making their own opinions. At the end of the day you're gonna get all sorts of people saying shit and as an actor you gotta be professional. I mean it's not easy. I make content and get a good amount of hate but I try to ignore it and not let it stop me from doing what I love. All I'm saying is I wish they would just ignore what those silly fans have to say and continue being friends IRL... Again I don't know the true context behind any of this but from all the stuff I've been seeing it just seems like they can't get along bc of drama with fans and their partners not liking what the fans have to say about Rudy and Madison. At the end of the day I respect them and their relationships as it's truly none of my business. I am a fan of the show and their acting as individuals and genuinely love the dynamic between JJ and Kiara.
Part 2 was a sh*t show. From the writing to the acting. Their handshake scene is just embarrassing to watch, they're supposed to be acting as a couple, but Rudy just trying to avoid looking at Madison, and Madison just looked angry at him, and then they just formally shook hands...not a kiss, not even the pogue handshake. Almost all their scenes in p2 were like this. like, are you guys really actors? Look how great Chase and Madelyn did their job JJ got the shittiest treatment from the creators. Rudy said he hoped JJ would be a beacon of hope for all abuse victims, and THIS is what he get? all due to a lack of professionalism on all sides. How you let actor's girlfriends run your set like that. Mind blowing
They’re both gonna regret not giving this their all. It was a great series at its peak, but their crashing out like this is going to ruin how a lot of people remember this show. Maybe they’ll go on to do bigger and better things. OR maybe this was their one chance to be a part of something that could really stand the test of time. All I know is, I felt the coldness between the characters in season 4 and it completely fell short of the earlier seasons because of this. Pettiness is lame.
The people might forget this mess but the directors and others on set that dealt with this will always remember and this will more than likely effect the future roles they get. It’s a super competitive industry and getting labeled as difficult is one of the worst things you can do
I feel like it might go down how That 70’s Show’s last season. When Hyde and Jackie had to break up or whatever and they hated eachother all throughout s8 so fans just ignored the last season and say the 2 got married.
Yeah, not happy that they killed JJ off they could have put him in jail or something so that way there is a chance he could come back but the way that they did it. The end of the series just seemed so rushed like it started out so good and then it just seemed really really rushed and also it just seems there’s not much professionalismamongst a lot of of the cast and crew mostly the crew from what I’m seeing and it sucks. I feel like if Madeline and Chase can be cordial and cool and professional than everyone else should be able to handle it too.
that fact that his contract ended after season 4 is what makes me think it was planned to begin with unless all their contracts ended. then I could see it being something that wasn't planned and that he went to the writers to end his character. and also for a girlfriend to be jealous of an on screen relationship, you shouldn't be dating an actor sweetheart.
idgaf about the gf but why are u talking like u know what went down between them? It’s actually crazy of u to say the partners of an actor/actress should just put up with fans bullshit. Like let’s not normalize that, that’s really parasocial of u. And I bet if u were in the similar position as the gf u’d also feel the same. It’s easy for you to say when you’re not in their position.
tbh their chemistry was only good in season 1 and it shows that whatever messed up their friendship was permanent. Rudy is one of the best actors on the show which is why I always thought it was strange that I didn't feel an ounce of love from JJ to kiara after season 1 (I actually think madison did a better job at portraying it on her end). I did feel a little something in his death scene but yeah mostly everything else felt forced. It's such a shame that their interpersonal relationships got in the way of how the show is executed. Everyone wants to blame the fans but if there was no truth to their speculating it wouldn't cause so many problems in their actual relationships. From a storytelling perspective I do think it makes sense for JJ to die but maybe just not in the way that it was done... I was fully expecting him to die saving sarah or something more heroic. I don't think killing off a main character should be so taboo- it adds stakes but if it's really because he asked to leave then that's upsetting. They're clearly trying to do a PR save with the whole "it was always planned" and i think it would've worked if there weren't so many signs of rudy wanting to leave even before this. JJ was my fav and tbh they made him so annoying this season which i now question the intention behind that
Key words in all of this “fans think” No one actually knows what happened. Fans clearly took things too far and are creating narratives in their own head.
tbh I think Elaine is tryna keep rudy to herself cuz the way she got him was that he cheated on his ex with Elaine so she might be scared that he might also do it to her so that’s why she’s tryna keep any type of person coming in away
so some fans affected the real relationships cuz of their obsession of the fictional characters, then got mad that the real ppl couldn't continue acting ? ppl get hurt with jealousy and insecurity, if somebody kept pushing your partner to be closer to his friend so they can view them in a romantic pov would you be fine? the other actors were professional cuz they dated each other, they only had to deal with their own feelings not their partner's feelings too
I do think the parasocial relationships fans have with the cast plays a part in this but overall the fans are shipping their characters not themselves in real life that’s the difference. There are girlfriends out there who are controlling due to their own insecurities. Take a look at Penn Badgley for example he has a very healthy relationship with his wife and made a clear boundary that he will no longer do sex scenes so he could respect his wife more. He still acts and he still has love interests on his shows but he made a clear boundary with work to respect his wife and that’s something Rudy could’ve done instead of finding a way out of the show. He could very much respect his partner and her boundaries while still doing his job and that’s something she needs to understand he’s doing a job, he’s acting, if you don’t want to deal with an actors character falling in love with ANOTHER CHARACTER then maybe you shouldn’t be dating an actor to begin with. It’s not fair to have them accommodate everything for you and you’re unable to do the same back.
@@analisaastorga3155 The shipping absolutely does cross over into real life though. I keep seeing people say how Rudy and Madison are soulmates, how they'll find each other again - all completely wild and inappropriate things to be saying about two people currently in happy, long term relationships.
It totally made sense for one of the pouges to die, even for it to be JJ, but it didn't make sense THIS season. Like have that be the final thing, that would make sense.
Welp. I'm sure they are used to the pr relationships. All this is just unnecessary media. Just seems like they are doing drama just to please the entertainment industry.
@@brendaparraortega4343 yeah....big time. But honestly.......some of their stuff even after their careers have been destroyed. It's better than their usual stuff. It comes out a lot better than the PR crap they usually have to follow
This is why teen & romance shows in the age of internet parasociality always end up being such a clusterf*ck. There are so many instances in this video that speak to insane fan entitlement and inserting themselves into the actors' personal lives in out-of-line ways. Actors can also tacitly encourage that with all the online fan interaction, but to be fair, I bet the creatives/producers pressure or even mandate that sort of interaction. This delusion that is continually repeated that actors ~love~ spending time and interacting with their fans (and that big, meanie girlfriend was 'taking him away from them'); sure, I'm sure some narcissists do, but the majority of actors with their heads screwed on correctly are very strict about keeping boundaries between themselves and fans, and whatever fanservice they do is out of a sense of professional obligation, nothing more. You are and will always be strangers to them, and they to you.
This does make me sad. I’ve never been a fan of Outer Banks (i watched season 1 and loved it but disliked season 2 enough to stop watching), but I always love when cast mates get along. It makes me sad whenever they don’t because I believe sets should be a place to work yes but also to make unforgettable and fond memories to look back on.
@@annakolesnikova_1it’s best to not even assume. If someone tells you they’re happy or even if they don’t say anything, mind your business. These are strangers who have their own friends and family. They don’t need strangers online to dictate to them if they’re happy or not.
The fans thinking she’s the problem like no YOU ALL ARE THE PROBLEM shipping two REAL people with REAL LIVES AND RELATIONSHIPS together that’s so damaging. their time on TV is enough for them to share themselves with yall (talking about the fans that are tryna play Cupid)
this is why they should’ve ended the show with season 3… personally, i knew i was not gonna watch s4 because netlfix is very infamous for ruining shows with too many seasons. hearing about jj’s death just confirmed my theory.
Please cover the Gavin Casalegno (Jeremiah from The Summer I Turned Pretty) cheating (+problematic views) scandal. He recently got married, but all these extras are coming out and saying that he was cheating on his now wife with extras.
In my “normal status” opinion of a nobody… I’d do absolutely anything when it came to filming for such a popular show! Like what?! It’s a high paying CLOUT earning career! Grow up and be profesh and get it done ✔️
Tbh Madison seems messy and her girlfriend as well. It’s by now known and unfortunately wanted that viewers start shipping people. That’s how they maintain relevance. To be mad that fans ship your girlfriend with a guy seems insecure af. Rudy seems to have acted for his mental health. So good for him
its also the fact that they made groff his dad(which was soooo weird.) and then to top it off when jj gave groff the crown he legit just stabbed him and killed him anyway. it would of made more sense if that british lady (idh her name) shot him down as he was getting the crown. that would of made more sense pt2 just pissed me off rly and the kid???? bffr sarah said last season "im only 19" and then gets pregnant..ok bye
JJ was so close to getting his happy ending with the pogues to... Literally only had to stick it out for one more season. Also they could've just had Kie and JJ break up or something, not kill him!! They didn't even give him a good death ughh 😫
she just read the post from the insider though, which has been out for a while & clearly not confirmed. she didn’t confirm that he actually does die until she gave spoiler warning..
They are kids and shit happens the fact that chase & Madelyn can work together is amazing, but people really need to stop getting involved in these people’s lives they are NORMAL PEOPLE with lives of their own and THEY DONT FUCKING KNOW US WHO CARES
Like we literally are watching them at WORK what works on the screen doesn’t work in real life if this cast doesn’t work out it’s because of the fan base yall be mad weird, appreciate what the cast does on the show and fuck off
madison is so defensive now and it’s weird. she doesn’t even seem like the same person. the issue isn’t with the fans whatsoever, neither one of them had an issue with fan content until they got into relationships with toxic partners. madison’s gf seems like a huge insecure bully and is clearly influencing her
i think it’s even worse because elaine is able to be on set but mariah isn’t. Elaine would be able to “monitor” Rudy but Mariah wouldn’t. It’s also probably why Madison and Rudy were even more likely to drift apart because Elaine was probably breathing down both their necks, being on set for their romantic scenes.
This is what I like to call…no accountability. Fans are literally the worse! I can wait for this show to end so they don’t have to deal with shit fans anymore.
@ They did. They were okay with the ship until people started shipping them in real life. Their partners may have something to do with it but fans not taking any accountability is very funny. But y’know…also Nice try
To be fair tho she really did say some problematic things, and she is prolife, which yes it isn't an excuse to hate on someone, but she does seem to be part of the reason why Rudy and Madison aren't friends anymore.
OMG when you said that iyo its going to end with John B telling the entire story of the Pogues to his son, named JJ.......I was like AAAAAAHHHHHH! I totally thought that & when I heard it from another I was so convinced it's what's going to be! RIP JJ I seriously cannot wait for Season 5! Thx for your video XO♡ P4L
the relationships wasn’t the problem it was the fans.. they ruined their friendship but yall not ready for that convo yet!! edit : yall saying “how does it affect them” because people have feelings and get hurt? when you see yr partner constantly being shipped with someone else obviously its going to ruin the relationship stop acting so dense in the replies.
Right!?!? Like having 20 people in your DMs daily telling you that your partner should be with their costar and that you suck wouldn't put immense pressure on a relationship. Everyone saying otherwise bffr
they obviously had a whole fallout by themselves specially this year when they unfollowed their girlfriends and etc ain't no way fans shipping will make them have this drama
The fans not taking accountability is crazyyy. Both Maddie and Rudy, even their partners were getting harassed and still are getting harassed under their own comment section.
I wouldn’t be mad if they decided to go that route with the ending. & them going with “JJ” for their kid makes sense 😭 John J. Rutledge or John Junior = JJ lol
Just stop with all this stupid drama. I just wanna say I love Rudy and I know he didn’t wanna leave- it was definitely planned from the start, I mean the writers themselves even confirmed it. Just stop.. ughh I’m gonna miss jj sm
In my opinion, These people are grown adults at work and not doing their job because of personal problems. That’s crazy to me. I can never get away with my measly little bartender job if I brought my problems to work. I’d probably get fired. Suck it up and leave your shit at the door.
It explains JJs crash outs being on 10 the last season. It explains the baby being named after JJ. It makes it make sense. His wish shouldn’t bring him back. It should be I had a family and kei should have him forever in the show. So maybe just his voice or something but you can see it in the show and I watched and never knew this stuff
I'm sad to know that there friendship was hurt like this because of the gf's being "uncomfortable " with it like I'm sorry but your dating an actor what did you expect and I also hope that if it's true that jj was killed because rudy wanted to leave because of the issues with his gf that it was WORTH IT because the last thing I want for him to end up breaking up with Elaine and regret leaving 😔but anyways P4L & rip jj maybank ❤
I just want to say I hate the girlfriends bc it was probably Rudy’s girl who made him die off bc she was mad about Madison and Rudy’s friendship and that she got fired
Like I get why they do it but literally why does the media care so much about relationships. They get like what 30,000 a paycheck for a pic with these people. Just sounds intrusive
Saying that the fans had nothing to do with everything between them is such a lie. Some delusional people, that ship people who are popular, need to be held responsible. You pressured two people to be together, not only in a show, but you also decided to impact their personal life too. People should really re-learn how to mind their own business.
But it’s also on the actors to keep those things personal and to not react to what the fans are saying because once they do that then it’s just adding fuel to the fire.
look the shipping situation happened back in 2020-21- and it had died down FOR A WHILE- him leaving had nothing to do with the fans and everything to do with Elaine getting fired from set for being a nuisance
I swear fans kill everything, any celebrity who decides to have a relationship with someone, THEY have to insert themselves in someone they don’t even know and then the bandwagon starts. Die hard fans are annoying af
So you’re telling me that just because they couldn’t be professional and pretend to date they ruined a whole finale to a season for a great show, basically ruining it? smh
this is why almost all obx fans say season 1 was the best out of them all. it was real, they all were having fun, they lived together, everyone was happy. even though i cannot see what REALLY happened, Elaine’s actions do say that she didn’t like Madison and was jealous, though there isn’t anything to be jealous about as Madison has a girlfriend.
Honestly, if you’ve seen enough TV shows this isn’t your first rodeo about behind-the-scenes drama that affects the show. it is just really sad to see it Play it out in real time especially if you can predict the set up for JJ. like you know his story was supposed to be to eventually gain that inheritance, and that family land , but to have him be gone like that it’s so disheartening and it was just it felt like a waste and disservice. they didn’t even give him a purpose for him to be killed off, which you could’ve at least done that too, but it was just poorly executed with some bad writing. it’s just sad overall and I will forever blame their partners. it just makes you feel sad overall over the situation.
people are really sad when they are critizing other peoples relationships. can't get your own? cry a river, leave THEM alone. that is their private lives, do you want people in your relationship (if ever)? no shut up let people have their own drama, they can figure it out on their own.
Damn I just finished ep 10 and this makes me view it sooo much differently I honestly had no idea about the Rudy and Madison drama . I only ever knew about Chase & Madeline. 😢
@philomena722 sorry but that's never going to happen. "Fans" are just obsessed people so they're definitely not going to start respecting any boundaries
I still cant believe they used stunt doubles for a simple cuddling scene
Like chase and Maddie literally dated then had a rough break up and still stayed professional😭😭😭
lowkey.. that's why you see chase and maddie in many other project and not the former two.. then again ive nvr watched this show, they are the two i always see popping up online
@@MariaMcA3 madison is in other projects lol. she was a main in the Time Cut on Netflix it just came out 2 weeks ago
@@selma8337 yeah and Rudy has also had some smaller roles. I'm just so sad that they used stunt doubles for that scene 😭😭😭
@@MariaMcA3 you should watch the show lol
That’s lowkey why Maddie is one of the only cast members I kinda vibe with
getting jealous over CHARACTERS getting together in a show/ not in real life is crazyyy imo. if they’re shipping them in real life ok but otherwise let’s grow up
getting jealous of actors getting together in real life is also pretty crazy ngl. Parasocial much? yall dont know these people.
I blame them for letting their relationships get in the way of their job
@ tru
yeah well the problem still remains these super creepy people who think that celebrities are objects that they can ship with other real people and go harass the respective partners
they were shipping them in real life thats the thing. it seems to me its the fans that are the problem, not them lol.
it crazy how real life relationships can change an entire shows plot
That's why they usially do chemistry tests before going on with a ship
Not me the elder millennial who has admittedly never watched this show a day in my life thinking this was a reality show every time I heard about it lol
Me too 😂😂
Hahaha I feel so seen... I've found my people!
It's not that new and it's really bad. The acting is mid and the romances are corny
@@evap.5121 right, I’ve been seeing stuff about it for a few years and still assumed it was a reality show lol
same same 🎉
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If they knew that they wanted to kill JJ off in the earlier seasons why did they create a slow burn like that just to give us nothing at the end. His death did not make sense at all.
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I think his death was okay, because that was the point if his character, he can never have anything good in his life. So him not having a happy ending is very on character, however I do feel like the way he died was so… underwhelming-
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Like I was looking for a more dramatic death like Sarah’s dad.
it’s pretty obvious the writers and pr team are trying to cover up the drama by saying it was planned
To play advocate. Shows do this all the time. Mainly for shock value and etc. The Walking Dead w/ Glenn and Maggie for example. Their relationship was everybody’s fav & everybody knew Glen would die eventually, but his death still created a HUGE outbreak
IM IN SEASON 2 WHAT ABOUT A SPOILER ALERT😭
@@saigie3908 the thing is this show is not that type of show at all. And the actor talked back in the day how he hoped that jj was a beacon of hope for people that grew up in an abusive environment like him. They build this slow burn romance and then gave nothing. And after everything he endured growing up, in part 2 of this season they totally tortured him to then die in agony. It doesn't go at all with this show it was traumatizing for the viewers and it was sh*t writing too. You can just tell this came out of nowhere.
if you are in a secure relationship you wouldn't do this much drama. Idk what happened between these two but it was obviously not the because of the fans. All i know is that their personal bs ruined such a beautiful show that wasn't at all the type of killing a main character. Specially when JJ was the most abused kid and he just kept suffering til he died in agony. Not leaving any legacy. His whole story was POINTLESS. This was just cruel and it was obviously not planned at all.
Yeah, shit writing.
Thank you!!!
spitting!!!
idk its obvious to me that this happened because of the fans. fans have been sending tons and tons of hate for like years. im talking dth threts. i get that actors should still stay professional, but at the end of the day, the actors are human beings with feelings. and stuff like this does get to them at some point. you guys did too much and pushed him out of the show. and now these same fans are acting clueless as to what is going on, poitning fingers at the actors, as if they didn't cause all of this lol.
@@aya-_-3045 that happened years ago in 2020 when they were so close all that stopped years ago and they were still fine. something bigger and private happend between them. Please even the creators that treated his gf as a daughter are involved. this topic of "fans caused this" is just stupid. fans won't make them have beef.
It's actually insane that they needed BODY DOUBLES to CUDDLE
The thing I hate most about this drama is that I spoiled the ending for myself looking into it lol
same i am the worst
I’m mad bc it was on my TikTok trending bar 😭😭😭 I didn’t even go looking for it 😭😭
So mad it got spoiled for me too :(
I was waiting to watch this season till I got back from my trip but I guess I just had to watch this video because I spoiled myself looking at the comments before watching.
Same.
honestly it’s just sad, i remember being super into outer banks in 2020 when it first came out, and madison and rudy were super close. it’s clear SOMETHING happened but i don’t think it’s fair to point fingers since none of us were there. i just feel bad that they couldn’t work it out.
They probably couldn't work it out due to their relationships (partners) as someone whos been in that position ive had to cut friends off due to feelings being invloved and me being in a relationship. you're going to put your relationship first because that's who you plan to marry imo. but also like you said its not fair to point fingers! just assuming
outer banks will never be as good as it was in season one. the whole reason people shipped jj and kiara in the first place was because rudy and madison were good friends irl so they had natural chemistry. i remember the cast in interviews talking about how a lot of the scenes with jj and kie weren’t even scripted, they were just random moments that they filmed. every season after that the chemistry has been lacking between the two imo
That's my exact thought...now when they give interviews or take pictures they sit or stand far away from each other...they don't even keep eye contact and they don't have a chemistry at allll in the show...
right i think even the writers said they made jj and kie romantically involved bc of all of the shipping and the extreme fan demand. i honestly never saw their chemistry on screen but i didn’t hate it or wanted jj to die ☹️ but that’s already said and done with so there’s no use in dwelling bout it. i’ve cried enough seeing him die 😭
Thissssssss
Personally as a fan of the show, I think it should have ended in season 3. They finally got the treasure and it felt as though all loose ends were tied up. This season felt completely different as they had to come up with new conflict and story lines, and I was surprised by this death because all of them have the craziest plot armor, like Sarah getting shot and getting sewed up by some back alley doctor. I can’t imagine season 5 will be any better.
Omg yes! For me the show ended when they have built Pogelandia, you know the house and everything. Like JJ betting the rest of the money was such a stupid decision!! I know that the 5th season will just be soooo awkward and I am essentially just watching in because of Rafe/Drew because he is an amazing actor.
@@simplyanotherhuman unrelated to ur comment but i rlly wish rafe and barry would get tgt but i don’t think the writers will give them a gay romance nonetheless the idea of those two being in a relationship is so GREAT to think bout 🙏🏼 what do u think ??
@ YEEEEEEEES I am a Rafe and Barry shipper till my last breath!! I mean not obsessively, like it’s not my every thought but it would be soooo great. Though I have to sadly agree with you I also think that the writers will be to scared to do it😢 but thank you for this comment I love texting with fellow Rafe and Berry shippers, I wish you a lovely morning/day/night wherever you are 🩷🩷
@Jacklyn.S that's a another thing the creators talked about it last year saying they always planned 2 trilogies. El Dorado & Blackbeard. This season started the blackbeard plot and no suddenly they came out saying "no we actually planned 5 seaons" when it's obvious that's happening because with jj dying they need one more season to just wrapping up blackbeard's plot and end the show. That's also why they couldn't just end it here due to rudy leaving, because the plot with blackbeard was just starting. So yeah I wish the show finished in s3 fr. We were starting a new journey that was about to be as great and they ruined it.
@ Absolutely! It was going so good and now that Rudy wanted to leave they are fumbling the whole thing! (I mean it’s not Rudys fault but you know) It’s hard keeping an already great show just as good as it was in the beginning
I might have an unpopular take on this.
I want to make it clear that I am an OBX fan and was disappointed to hear that Rudy was leaving the show and it could be due to issues in his friendship with Madison.
However, we often dehumanize celebrities. If we look at this from the viewpoint of a traditional employee, if you were unhappy in a job, your contract had just ended, and you had a rocky relationship with one of your coworkers, it isn't unlikely that you would quit. Now consider the fact that in acting as a profession, you have this weird relationship with your coworker, and despite this, you now have to hug, kiss, and have very intimate, long scenes with them where you are pretending to be in love. Furthermore, if you make the decision to no longer continue with the job, a large group of fans are now going to be upset because you prioritized your health and personal relationships. Everyone is saying that Rudy and Madison are immature or letting the fans down. But, Rudy had a job that he decided to quit, he is doing what will make him happy. In addition, he is still doing press and interviews for a job that he will not be continuing.
As sad as I am to see him go and that it is possibly from a lost friendship, I think it is unfair to hold him to a standard that we wouldn't expect from someone that isn't in the limelight.
My disappointment is that Elaine's history of prejudice wasn't a dealbreaker for him. Realistically, if I was a member of the cast, especially a queer woman of color and my friend/love interest was dating someone with a history of racism and prejudice, it would hurt my friendship with them. Overall, I just think that it is really none of our business and we shouldn't be out here making videos or comments on the decisions that these people who we do not know are making for themselves.
someone pin this comment because this is the most mature take i've seen on this situation. I agree with you 100%, As much as I love Jiara and Rudy, it sucks but it's also kind of valid of Rudy to leave.
@@autumndeneault3481 THANK YOU! Because people are now criticizing Rudy’s acting like they weren’t just crying over JJ’s death?
And another unpopular opinion: I don’t think Rudy wants to continue doing even bigger projects as of now & wants to chill for now. But fans are treating it as if he left the show because he wants to do better projects which has led them to criticize his acting. But at the end of the day, we don’t know why Rudy left
THANK YOU
I agree with you 100% too
This comment is one I absolutely agree with
As someone who’s just kind of observed this show from the sidelines, I had no idea how MESSY the fandom and cast was 😭😭😭
me too. I'm shocked, lol
Im glad i didnt know all of this. And honestly dont care. It just ruins the magic of the show. I just watch the show enjoy it and move on. Came here cuz they killed my favourite character in the show😂
Here’s a thing I do find it a little immature that Madison and Rudy weren’t able to keep it professional, and it honestly showed, but for some reason, Madeline Cline and Chase Stokes, who have broken up and dated, we were able to keep it professional, and we were able to keep the chemistry
exactlyy
I remember like 2 weeks ago seeing videos of Chase allegedly avoiding hugging Madeline and ignoring her and fans whining about how HE can't be professional and about how HIS girlfriend is insecure.... you guys switch up so much. Probably because all this 'drama' is just bs you've made up inside your own heads. This seems like an interesting show, too bad I'll probably never watch it because the fandom seems excruciating. You guys are literally ruining it for everyone.
What's immature is you fans hating on all these actors to the point where they dont wanna do this show anymore. Madison and Rudy weren't able to "stay professional" literally because of you guys. Madeline and Chase have gotten hate too, but its like a much smaller amount than Rudy and Madison have been getting. Instead of blaming the actors, yall really need to look into your own fandom. Yall have one of the most toxic fandoms I have ever seen.
You realize you can watch a show and not be a part of a fandom right? @lordvoldemort5580
It’s elanes fault. Just imagine how awkward it was for Madeline and chase after they broke up..
It’s so annoying because by the time we actually got Jiara they had lost chemistry together. And barely a season later he was killed off. So much for a slow burn relationship.
That’s why sometimes slow burns are not worth it in the end
season 1 madison and rudy would be disappointed as to how everything turned out, we barely got jiara and the time we did, it wasnt emotional or didn’t feel heartfelt due to drama I’m presuming, they made fans wait so long and then gave us half a season and killed jj off, it’s disappointing
I’m sorry but the comments are killing me. The lack of accountability from the fans is the reason why the show’s going downhill. let’s not act like ya’ll were not being extremely parasocial, shipping the actors in real life too.
My kid and I usually pick a TV watch to watch together and Outer Banks has been our current one. But these are actors doing a job, it’s never occured to me to even look them up much less want them to date IRL that’s beyond weird.
It’s definitely a teen thing… I remember as a teen being part of the 1D fandom… and that is a big iykyk lmao it is quite similar to this it seems
@@beepbops82unfortunately, not all of them were teens. And believe it or not, I was once a teen and didn’t behave this way 🙊
I’m watching this show with my brother and we’re both teenagers, I started to ship Kie and JJ in season 2, but to do that to the real actors is crazy and para social.
I worked on the 3rd season as an extra and let me tell you, there was tension. Every time “cut” was yelled, Rudy would walk away from the group while the rest all remained huddled together. Elaina was nice, but always stayed near him. Madison was indifferent. It was definitely weird and not at all what I expected being a fan of the show. 😕
Really?????
How was drew ?
@@huyghemallorie4909 He wasn’t there the day I filmed! 😭😩
@@wiambekkouche218 Yes sadly 😭 I thought maybe it was just Rudy’s way of staying in character, but literally the scene involved just standing there while the crowd cheered. (It was the final scene of s3 when the mayor addresses them on the last episode)
@@Misfitsfan41 i feel like he is a Nice guy. Out of all the cast (from a viewer point of view) he seems really Nice
Have I ever watched this show… no.. but was I invested and going on a rollercoaster this enitre video? Absolutely! Storytelling skills 100/10🤧
U NEED TO WATCHHHH
@@lizzbruce u should deff watch !!
@@Deadlyfacecard it’s on my rainy day binge list😩🤧
Fr’s same!
I mean this happened with Millie and Finn in Stranger Things yet they still keep it professional, and they were WAY younger back then
what happened with finn and millie?
@uraverageswiftie people began to ship the actors together, made it super inappropriate and then they distanced from each other in interviews and just in general now. But like they still are acting together when they need to
If anything it absolutely proved to me that Rudi and Madison had tension ( and chemistry) Their partners wouldn’t go completely insane if there wasn’t a spark!! You can’t help who you have natural chemistry with but the chemistry on its own doesn’t mean anything!! It doesn’t mean you are going to cheat!! They are actors, having chemistry is literally a part of their job!! They get cast because they have chemistry with each other!! However, They would absolutely be able to stay professional if not for their insanely insecure and controlling partners!! The other person doesn’t become your property, if they want to leave they will, there is no need to turn into psychopaths and ruin their careers!! I would absolutely break up with my partner if he acted this way!! Either trust me or f**k off and stay out of my career!! I don’t ship them for the record, I just realize they are better off alone than with these psychotic „partners“ who prefer to keep them all to themselves and unemployed!! Don’t date a public person and if you are a chronically immature jealous person! Choose someone shy and very lowkey. And sure as f**k don’t date an actor!!
I generally don't understand why people get in a relationship with actors if they know that they're having to do other things on set. like you cant be mad if your gf is kissing someone else (professionally) ...its their job!
thank youuuu
True. I know that we don’t fully know what happens behind the scenes but even the ones who actually dated stayed professional-why couldn’t they. Most onscreen couples are shipped but they just say “Thank you” and move on. But in this case I feel that they themselves have highlighted it so much like don’t say this don’t say that, why are you saying this, made this even worse leading people to talk even more.
And especially if that ending was because of all this I think it’s absolutely ridiculous.
They should have just ended the show with S3. Why kill the whole vibe of the show? I used to love love the show, watching clips of it every now and then but I can’t even bring myself to watch OBX again as I start to think about JJ and what happens to him.
They just ruined the show for me.
i think (purely speculation) it’s more so maddison finding out about rudys girlfriend having bigoted takes publicly.. as a coloured, queer woman i’d be pretty hurt too if my bestfriend starting dating someone who blatantly disavows who i am as a person.. my friend knowing this, then staying with them.
a lot more has clearly gone on since then, but i’d be willing to bet this is what caused the initial tension which then snowballed into whatever else may have happened after
@ that makes a lot of sense
The other thing too is that there was literally no kissing or hugging between JJ and Kiara like absolutely none. I do think so that Madeline and Chase are really really good terms to the point where they’re friends so I don’t know.
I wish that his death was bigger than it was. Like wards TWO deaths got more reactions from EVERYONE then jj. Like sarah was balling. When john b almost lost sarah he was in ruins screaming. Kiara did good but im still upset she just stood there idk this doesnt feel right
I just wish they would all get along and not listen to the fans that ship Rudy and Madison IRL.. I understand if they're shipping the characters but like if they love their partners then why are they so worried about what the fans have to say? Anyways it sucks overall that their friendship started to to fade because of drama between the fans and their partners being jealous
This seems like it’s stemming from Madison and Rudy’s partners. Almost like they are insecure… they shouldn’t care what the fans say. Every movie and show will always have a fanbase that ships people.
@@tothemoon8223 Maybe it’s the fans that need to grow up and take some accountability for this mess. It’s nothing new that either couples break up because of hateful fans or friendships can end. I’m surprised that people are surprised about how this drama ended. The partners insecure….it’s easy to give them all the fault, but it’s them who got all the hate if I’m not wrong. I mean Rudy and Madison were still loved and shipped by the fans, while their parents were constantly hated on. Probably Madison and Rudy felt guilty, that all the hate came from their fans. People shouldn’t brush off cyber bullying so easily, since I’m sure they didn’t experienced such an attack on a daily basis. It’s unfortunate how all went wrong, and sure Madison and Rudy could definitely acted more professional on screen, but this whole drama should be a lesson for fans and fandoms as well, to do better next time, to stop shipping people IRL just because of some fictional characters, it’s rude and unnecessary and goes to far….. who knows what happened behind the curtains, but fans definitely made everything worse and the end result, the shitty ending of the season and unsatisfying relationship on screen, started all with toxic behavior from the fans….
@@tothemoon8223 yes exactly...
Maybe you guys should stop shipping real life people especially if they have partners?
@@jumoke3192 I don't ship them in real life, When I first watched the show and Rudy and Madison first started posting pics and vids of them I thought they were cute and assumed they were just really good friends. Then Rudy got with Elaine and Madison with Mariah and I never shipped them IRL. I always shipped Kiara and JJ.
But you can't stop fans from making their own opinions. At the end of the day you're gonna get all sorts of people saying shit and as an actor you gotta be professional. I mean it's not easy. I make content and get a good amount of hate but I try to ignore it and not let it stop me from doing what I love. All I'm saying is I wish they would just ignore what those silly fans have to say and continue being friends IRL...
Again I don't know the true context behind any of this but from all the stuff I've been seeing it just seems like they can't get along bc of drama with fans and their partners not liking what the fans have to say about Rudy and Madison.
At the end of the day I respect them and their relationships as it's truly none of my business. I am a fan of the show and their acting as individuals and genuinely love the dynamic between JJ and Kiara.
When Elaine and Rudy breakup, I bet he will regret this.
Fr hopefully he gets out of there 😭
Part 2 was a sh*t show. From the writing to the acting. Their handshake scene is just embarrassing to watch, they're supposed to be acting as a couple, but Rudy just trying to avoid looking at Madison, and Madison just looked angry at him, and then they just formally shook hands...not a kiss, not even the pogue handshake. Almost all their scenes in p2 were like this. like, are you guys really actors? Look how great Chase and Madelyn did their job
JJ got the shittiest treatment from the creators. Rudy said he hoped JJ would be a beacon of hope for all abuse victims, and THIS is what he get?
all due to a lack of professionalism on all sides. How you let actor's girlfriends run your set like that. Mind blowing
why couldn't they just keep it professional smh 😭created such a good storyline, slowburn and everything only to kill off everyone's fav character.
to be honest I think the whole drama was escalated by fans, but their personal relationships with their partners was what keeping it that way.
They’re both gonna regret not giving this their all. It was a great series at its peak, but their crashing out like this is going to ruin how a lot of people remember this show. Maybe they’ll go on to do bigger and better things. OR maybe this was their one chance to be a part of something that could really stand the test of time. All I know is, I felt the coldness between the characters in season 4 and it completely fell short of the earlier seasons because of this. Pettiness is lame.
The people might forget this mess but the directors and others on set that dealt with this will always remember and this will more than likely effect the future roles they get. It’s a super competitive industry and getting labeled as difficult is one of the worst things you can do
I feel like it might go down how That 70’s Show’s last season. When Hyde and Jackie had to break up or whatever and they hated eachother all throughout s8 so fans just ignored the last season and say the 2 got married.
I feel like this lowkey ruined his career lol
Which sucks. I hope it doesn't
Fr
Yeah, not happy that they killed JJ off they could have put him in jail or something so that way there is a chance he could come back but the way that they did it. The end of the series just seemed so rushed like it started out so good and then it just seemed really really rushed and also it just seems there’s not much professionalismamongst a lot of of the cast and crew mostly the crew from what I’m seeing and it sucks. I feel like if Madeline and Chase can be cordial and cool and professional than everyone else should be able to handle it too.
Madeline and Chase, I think I said Madison and Chase, but Madison is the one that’s having the drama
Rudy wanted his character off the show
He is destroying his acting career for a girl... ykes
imagine if they end up breaking up……. awkward asf
Right!!!!!
@@zuseth777_they probably will
I hate to say it but I hope they do he doesn't seem like good company...
that fact that his contract ended after season 4 is what makes me think it was planned to begin with unless all their contracts ended. then I could see it being something that wasn't planned and that he went to the writers to end his character. and also for a girlfriend to be jealous of an on screen relationship, you shouldn't be dating an actor sweetheart.
idgaf about the gf but why are u talking like u know what went down between them? It’s actually crazy of u to say the partners of an actor/actress should just put up with fans bullshit. Like let’s not normalize that, that’s really parasocial of u. And I bet if u were in the similar position as the gf u’d also feel the same. It’s easy for you to say when you’re not in their position.
young people without much work experience getting messy on set? nooo say it aint so. its a tale as old as time lets not act surprised when it happens.
tbh their chemistry was only good in season 1 and it shows that whatever messed up their friendship was permanent. Rudy is one of the best actors on the show which is why I always thought it was strange that I didn't feel an ounce of love from JJ to kiara after season 1 (I actually think madison did a better job at portraying it on her end). I did feel a little something in his death scene but yeah mostly everything else felt forced. It's such a shame that their interpersonal relationships got in the way of how the show is executed. Everyone wants to blame the fans but if there was no truth to their speculating it wouldn't cause so many problems in their actual relationships.
From a storytelling perspective I do think it makes sense for JJ to die but maybe just not in the way that it was done... I was fully expecting him to die saving sarah or something more heroic. I don't think killing off a main character should be so taboo- it adds stakes but if it's really because he asked to leave then that's upsetting. They're clearly trying to do a PR save with the whole "it was always planned" and i think it would've worked if there weren't so many signs of rudy wanting to leave even before this.
JJ was my fav and tbh they made him so annoying this season which i now question the intention behind that
fr i was begging them to kill him off this season he was so annoying
Key words in all of this “fans think”
No one actually knows what happened. Fans clearly took things too far and are creating narratives in their own head.
Yeah like fans take things wayyy out of context and it spreads so much misinformation
If your friendship with someone is strong, the internet just doesn't "ruin it". There is A LOT of ego involved here from a lot of them.
tbh I think Elaine is tryna keep rudy to herself cuz the way she got him was that he cheated on his ex with Elaine so she might be scared that he might also do it to her so that’s why she’s tryna keep any type of person coming in away
so some fans affected the real relationships cuz of their obsession of the fictional characters, then got mad that the real ppl couldn't continue acting ?
ppl get hurt with jealousy and insecurity, if somebody kept pushing your partner to be closer to his friend so they can view them in a romantic pov would you be fine?
the other actors were professional cuz they dated each other, they only had to deal with their own feelings not their partner's feelings too
I do think the parasocial relationships fans have with the cast plays a part in this but overall the fans are shipping their characters not themselves in real life that’s the difference. There are girlfriends out there who are controlling due to their own insecurities. Take a look at Penn Badgley for example he has a very healthy relationship with his wife and made a clear boundary that he will no longer do sex scenes so he could respect his wife more. He still acts and he still has love interests on his shows but he made a clear boundary with work to respect his wife and that’s something Rudy could’ve done instead of finding a way out of the show. He could very much respect his partner and her boundaries while still doing his job and that’s something she needs to understand he’s doing a job, he’s acting, if you don’t want to deal with an actors character falling in love with ANOTHER CHARACTER then maybe you shouldn’t be dating an actor to begin with. It’s not fair to have them accommodate everything for you and you’re unable to do the same back.
@@analisaastorga3155 The shipping absolutely does cross over into real life though. I keep seeing people say how Rudy and Madison are soulmates, how they'll find each other again - all completely wild and inappropriate things to be saying about two people currently in happy, long term relationships.
It totally made sense for one of the pouges to die, even for it to be JJ, but it didn't make sense THIS season. Like have that be the final thing, that would make sense.
Acting is not the career for these kids.
Welp. I'm sure they are used to the pr relationships. All this is just unnecessary media. Just seems like they are doing drama just to please the entertainment industry.
Yes, they will vanish to the void of actors who had one chance to enter the business and fucked up lol
This will probably be the last big stint these actors and actresses get as far as Hollywood goes besides Madelyn and Chase
What's funny is that they're in their mid 20s not even kids lmao
@@brendaparraortega4343 yeah....big time. But honestly.......some of their stuff even after their careers have been destroyed. It's better than their usual stuff. It comes out a lot better than the PR crap they usually have to follow
The drama ruined the show for me. I don’t even want to watch season 4 part 2.
This is why teen & romance shows in the age of internet parasociality always end up being such a clusterf*ck. There are so many instances in this video that speak to insane fan entitlement and inserting themselves into the actors' personal lives in out-of-line ways. Actors can also tacitly encourage that with all the online fan interaction, but to be fair, I bet the creatives/producers pressure or even mandate that sort of interaction. This delusion that is continually repeated that actors ~love~ spending time and interacting with their fans (and that big, meanie girlfriend was 'taking him away from them'); sure, I'm sure some narcissists do, but the majority of actors with their heads screwed on correctly are very strict about keeping boundaries between themselves and fans, and whatever fanservice they do is out of a sense of professional obligation, nothing more. You are and will always be strangers to them, and they to you.
This does make me sad. I’ve never been a fan of Outer Banks (i watched season 1 and loved it but disliked season 2 enough to stop watching), but I always love when cast mates get along. It makes me sad whenever they don’t because I believe sets should be a place to work yes but also to make unforgettable and fond memories to look back on.
This makes me angry and sad. Why can’t yall not ship people in general.. you guys r so quick to ship straight ppl when they are in happy relationships
Cause its doesn’t look happy/healthy relationships
@@annakolesnikova_1it’s best to not even assume. If someone tells you they’re happy or even if they don’t say anything, mind your business. These are strangers who have their own friends and family. They don’t need strangers online to dictate to them if they’re happy or not.
Boo Hoo, you making this comment isn't going to make people stop.
@@MimiMineCrafty boo hoo imagine shipping people
@@BonBon069 Who ever said I shipped them? What are you even talking about??
The fans thinking she’s the problem like no YOU ALL ARE THE PROBLEM shipping two REAL people with REAL LIVES AND RELATIONSHIPS together that’s so damaging. their time on TV is enough for them to share themselves with yall (talking about the fans that are tryna play Cupid)
this is why they should’ve ended the show with season 3… personally, i knew i was not gonna watch s4 because netlfix is very infamous for ruining shows with too many seasons. hearing about jj’s death just confirmed my theory.
i was saying this was the backstage drama ppl wished the dont worry darling one was
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This is what happens when you allow the audience dictate the direction you take your art.
I’ve always thought it was completely insane to call yourself a fan of someone and then do everything to destroy their relationships.
Lowkey people need to stop being so invested in what happens outside the show
Please cover the Gavin Casalegno (Jeremiah from The Summer I Turned Pretty) cheating (+problematic views) scandal. He recently got married, but all these extras are coming out and saying that he was cheating on his now wife with extras.
He really was the best jeremiah
In my “normal status” opinion of a nobody… I’d do absolutely anything when it came to filming for such a popular show! Like what?! It’s a high paying CLOUT earning career! Grow up and be profesh and get it done ✔️
I need the fan's that are complaining to go film a scene with their ex and see how they feel.
Madelyn Cline and Chase stokes are ex's, they're still professional. 🤣
@MimiMineCrafty and...there are still human, and some relationships end worse than others.
It's wild people care this much 😂😂😂😂
@@OffGridNMikrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ppl are so weird
@@OffGridNM They only care because now they had to made JJ died earlier than before... smh
Tbh Madison seems messy and her girlfriend as well. It’s by now known and unfortunately wanted that viewers start shipping people. That’s how they maintain relevance. To be mad that fans ship your girlfriend with a guy seems insecure af. Rudy seems to have acted for his mental health. So good for him
lets remind ourselves madison wasnt the first one who said something first. elaine did as a comment reply on twitter and deleted it after
its also the fact that they made groff his dad(which was soooo weird.) and then to top it off when jj gave groff the crown he legit just stabbed him and killed him anyway. it would of made more sense if that british lady (idh her name) shot him down as he was getting the crown. that would of made more sense pt2 just pissed me off rly and the kid???? bffr sarah said last season "im only 19" and then gets pregnant..ok bye
JJ was so close to getting his happy ending with the pogues to... Literally only had to stick it out for one more season. Also they could've just had Kie and JJ break up or something, not kill him!! They didn't even give him a good death ughh 😫
A little longer/ clear spoiler alert would have been nice, i didn’t have time to react and didn’t want to know that…😭😭😭
god me too 😭
Don't watch videos of Outer banks if you don't want spoilers. Pretty much common sense..
12:50 lol spilly ily but you already "spoiled" his death 1.30 min earlier in the video
she just read the post from the insider though, which has been out for a while & clearly not confirmed. she didn’t confirm that he actually does die until she gave spoiler warning..
They literally normal people who act on a show as their job.. people need to chill
They are kids and shit happens the fact that chase & Madelyn can work together is amazing, but people really need to stop getting involved in these people’s lives they are NORMAL PEOPLE with lives of their own and THEY DONT FUCKING KNOW US WHO CARES
Like we literally are watching them at WORK what works on the screen doesn’t work in real life if this cast doesn’t work out it’s because of the fan base yall be mad weird, appreciate what the cast does on the show and fuck off
madison is so defensive now and it’s weird. she doesn’t even seem like the same person. the issue isn’t with the fans whatsoever, neither one of them had an issue with fan content until they got into relationships with toxic partners. madison’s gf seems like a huge insecure bully and is clearly influencing her
i think it’s even worse because elaine is able to be on set but mariah isn’t. Elaine would be able to “monitor” Rudy but Mariah wouldn’t. It’s also probably why Madison and Rudy were even more likely to drift apart because Elaine was probably breathing down both their necks, being on set for their romantic scenes.
This is what I like to call…no accountability.
Fans are literally the worse!
I can wait for this show to end so they don’t have to deal with shit fans anymore.
@@jules6578 yeah, because elaine worked there and mariah didn’t but she clearly overstepped boundaries of her position
@@cassidydiaz2502 they had no issues with their fans until they got partners but nice try!
@ They did.
They were okay with the ship until people started shipping them in real life.
Their partners may have something to do with it but fans not taking any accountability is very funny.
But y’know…also Nice try
Each season gotten worse and worse should have ended it in season 2. Hollywood loves to milk everything till it’s dry
Each time you post, it's a treat!
Girlll I needed more time to pause after you said “I’m bout to spoil what happens” 😩 not a long enough spoiler alert ok
they need to leave madison alone
Why would people go after the guys girlfriend? Damn heathens
Probably bc she worked on the show which is kinda sketch
@@deaditeera she worked on the show before they got together? and what did she work as?
@ assistant to one of the creators
bc she has a very racist pro life problematic past
To be fair tho she really did say some problematic things, and she is prolife, which yes it isn't an excuse to hate on someone, but she does seem to be part of the reason why Rudy and Madison aren't friends anymore.
I don’t know anything about Outer Banks but I need to watch something while I draw so here we go ✍️
OMG when you said that iyo its going to end with John B telling the entire story of the Pogues to his son, named JJ.......I was like AAAAAAHHHHHH! I totally thought that & when I heard it from another I was so convinced it's what's going to be! RIP JJ
I seriously cannot wait for Season 5! Thx for your video XO♡ P4L
the relationships wasn’t the problem it was the fans.. they ruined their friendship but yall not ready for that convo yet!!
edit : yall saying “how does it affect them” because people have feelings and get hurt? when you see yr partner constantly being shipped with someone else obviously its going to ruin the relationship stop acting so dense in the replies.
Well it was Elaine's fault it seems like
Lmao how did random people on the internet ruin their REAL LIFE relationships? It's their fault they couldn't stay together, no one else's.
Right!?!? Like having 20 people in your DMs daily telling you that your partner should be with their costar and that you suck wouldn't put immense pressure on a relationship. Everyone saying otherwise bffr
they obviously had a whole fallout by themselves specially this year when they unfollowed their girlfriends and etc ain't no way fans shipping will make them have this drama
i wish i was this delusional lmao
12:42 SPOILER ALERT 😂
The fans not taking accountability is crazyyy.
Both Maddie and Rudy, even their partners were getting harassed and still are getting harassed under their own comment section.
exactly and it’s sooo evident in the comment section. like they need to wake up and realize the reason the show went downhill was because of them
I wouldn’t be mad if they decided to go that route with the ending.
& them going with “JJ” for their kid makes sense 😭
John J. Rutledge or John Junior = JJ lol
Just stop with all this stupid drama. I just wanna say I love Rudy and I know he didn’t wanna leave- it was definitely planned from the start, I mean the writers themselves even confirmed it. Just stop.. ughh I’m gonna miss jj sm
In my opinion, These people are grown adults at work and not doing their job because of personal problems. That’s crazy to me. I can never get away with my measly little bartender job if I brought my problems to work. I’d probably get fired. Suck it up and leave your shit at the door.
They have drama ??!! What !! Never knew lol
You know things are bad when the drama in real life gets more attention than the drama onscreen.
It explains JJs crash outs being on 10 the last season. It explains the baby being named after JJ. It makes it make sense. His wish shouldn’t bring him back. It should be I had a family and kei should have him forever in the show. So maybe just his voice or something but you can see it in the show and I watched and never knew this stuff
I'm sad to know that there friendship was hurt like this because of the gf's being "uncomfortable " with it like I'm sorry but your dating an actor what did you expect and I also hope that if it's true that jj was killed because rudy wanted to leave because of the issues with his gf that it was WORTH IT because the last thing I want for him to end up breaking up with Elaine and regret leaving 😔but anyways P4L & rip jj maybank ❤
As someone who has never watched this show it sounds like such a fever dream. Should I watch it? Lol
this first season is AMAZING!!! u definitely should at least the first one
The first and third seasons are the best. The second and fourth are just okay.
Why have I never seen the show but I know like half the drama and now I’m watching this when I’ve never seen the show a day in my life..
I just want to say I hate the girlfriends bc it was probably Rudy’s girl who made him die off bc she was mad about Madison and Rudy’s friendship and that she got fired
This drama seriously sounds dumb
Like I get why they do it but literally why does the media care so much about relationships. They get like what 30,000 a paycheck for a pic with these people. Just sounds intrusive
I wish you would’ve added cirrus’s relationship with his dad. There’s just so much depth to his character I was a little disappointed.
Both of the gf's are the problem
totally ruined the end of the series bro 😭 it fel super rushed
I was today years old when I learned this was scripted and not a “reality” show..😬
Saying that the fans had nothing to do with everything between them is such a lie. Some delusional people, that ship people who are popular, need to be held responsible. You pressured two people to be together, not only in a show, but you also decided to impact their personal life too. People should really re-learn how to mind their own business.
But it’s also on the actors to keep those things personal and to not react to what the fans are saying because once they do that then it’s just adding fuel to the fire.
look the shipping situation happened back in 2020-21- and it had died down FOR A WHILE- him leaving had nothing to do with the fans and everything to do with Elaine getting fired from set for being a nuisance
It does not matter when it happened. It happened and it left a bad taste in their mouth. Of course the actors would want to leave.
Actually Madison or Madelyn cline posted something about Elaine making Rudy leave I don’t remember which Maddie did it
what did it say and where did the post it?
When ?
The show fell off after season 2
I agree
I swear fans kill everything, any celebrity who decides to have a relationship with someone, THEY have to insert themselves in someone they don’t even know and then the bandwagon starts. Die hard fans are annoying af
I’m so upset at the ending of this outer banks season. JJ dying has altered my brain chemistry
Obsessed fans need to touch grass.
So you’re telling me that just because they couldn’t be professional and pretend to date they ruined a whole finale to a season for a great show, basically ruining it? smh
They're sooo immature
this is why almost all obx fans say season 1 was the best out of them all. it was real, they all were having fun, they lived together, everyone was happy. even though i cannot see what REALLY happened, Elaine’s actions do say that she didn’t like Madison and was jealous, though there isn’t anything to be jealous about as Madison has a girlfriend.
Honestly, if you’ve seen enough TV shows this isn’t your first rodeo about behind-the-scenes drama that affects the show. it is just really sad to see it Play it out in real time especially if you can predict the set up for JJ. like you know his story was supposed to be to eventually gain that inheritance, and that family land , but to have him be gone like that it’s so disheartening and it was just it felt like a waste and disservice. they didn’t even give him a purpose for him to be killed off, which you could’ve at least done that too, but it was just poorly executed with some bad writing. it’s just sad overall and I will forever blame their partners. it just makes you feel sad overall over the situation.
people are really sad when they are critizing other peoples relationships. can't get your own? cry a river, leave THEM alone. that is their private lives, do you want people in your relationship (if ever)? no shut up let people have their own drama, they can figure it out on their own.
They're public figures, of course there is going to be haters and people talking about them. What do you not understand??? Smh!
Damn I just finished ep 10 and this makes me view it sooo much differently I honestly had no idea about the Rudy and Madison drama . I only ever knew about Chase & Madeline. 😢
Well, when you're acting, your signification other should know what they're getting into. If you don't like dating a famous person, then don't.
How about fans should learn how to respect people’s boundaries instead? Ya’ll are weird
@philomena722 sorry but that's never going to happen. "Fans" are just obsessed people so they're definitely not going to start respecting any boundaries