Sergio Leone's Dollar Trilogy Timeline
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- The Dollars Trilogy, also known as the Man with No Name Trilogy is an Italian film series consisting of three masterpieces directed by Sergio Leone. The films came to be considered a trilogy due to American distributor United Artists smart marketing concept.
This short video identifies the three films' timeline as well as a couple of "blink-and-you'll-miss-it" details.
INFORMATION GATHERED FROM:
Sir Christopher Frayling: Sergio Leone - Once Upon a time in Italy
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As a Judgment - Ennio Morricone
VIDEO:
A Fistful of Dollars
A Few Dollars More
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Once Upon a Time in the West
"ABSTRACT 28" video from mitchmartinez.com
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I thought the coat was him finally spending the money he earns in the first two movies to get a more up to date look. Then he finds the poncho and reverts back to his old classic self.
About 15 years ago I emailed Sergio Donati who was one of the writers of For A Few Dollars More. I asked him if he felt that Eastwood was playing the same man in all three films. Not really expecting a response, he wrote back stating that he felt Eastwood was playing the same character in all three films.
I’m glad that Clint said no would’ve been kinda lame to see him die in once upon a time in the west because he’s like the hero protagonist to me
One of the best decitions he ever made, protected himslef and the other two guys from getting buried, getting type casted, that cost him his relationship to Leone though and saddly with Ennio who in loyalty to Leone refused writting music to Eastwood´s westerns, Before Sergio died he and Clint had made up good.
I’m also quite happy at that
Yeah, that would not have made sense for the man with no name to get killed so easily. The Bronson character was not better at gun play than the man with no name.
@@joemoss5138 I don't know, from everything we see of Harmonica he seems just as quick and accurate as Blondie.
What is this other movie? I was confused towards the end of this video. Are they loosely connected?
Thanks this was helpful, it was confusing that van cleef played 2 characters in the same trilogy.
And gian Maria volante played two characters as well
yeah but they were the same person, ... kinda sorta
I think seen the trilogy as both a secuential and non secuential movies is awesome, it works fine both ways. They are definetly intended not to match the other but they don´t contradict each other as well.
I thought AFOD was before FAFDM but that the newspaper and the grave seems like the most definitive argument. 1872 and 1873.
My head cannon is that the man with no name is called Joe Monco
Joe is a nickname given to any American on the Mexican Boarder at that time, that or Yankees
Manco (Not Monco) is a spanish nickanme for one handed people, in the film Manco does everything left, everything but shooting
Blonde is a nickname for ... well, blondes
So Lee Van Cleef played 2 diferent characters?
Correct :)
My head cannon is that they are brothers
So did Gian Maria Volonté aparently
Yeah, he played Angel Eyes, in "Good Bad and Ugly" and Col. Douglas Mortimer In "For A Few Dollars More"
Mario Brega Played 3 different charachters, Niño, Chico and Wallace
Piripero is the same as the Prophet as well
And several henchman on the three movies where in two or the three movies as well, like the dude that said "Let Red go" in FFMD is one of the dudes that gets shot in Blondie´s intro in GBU and several others.
The dollars trilogy is my third favorite westerns after tombstone and young guns. It took a while but I finally found out the order of the timeline.
The good bad and the ugly
For a few dollars more
Fistful of dollars
It’s funny that Clint is the only one playing the same character. Other people playing other parts. But love this series.
His wrist brace is also seems to be another inconsistency. In Fistful, he gets his brace at the end after getting beat up by the Rojos. But in A Few Dollars, he starts with the wrist brace already and beats up the guy in the bar left-handed because of the brace.
I think he lost it during a fistful of dollars and then reclaimed it
He does not have any Brace in a Fistful of Dollars though
@@antoniocenteno1483 Yeah I don't even remember, the only hand accessory he has is bandages on his left hand after being badly beaten
Fan theory: Major Mortimer is Angel Eyes. Angel Eyes survived his gunshot wounds from blondie (we also saw the man that tuco shot survive so it's not impossible). A Union patrol comes across a wounded Angel Eyes and one of the soldiers recognized him from the camp and so they rescue him and get him medical attention at a field hospital. Angel Eyes is still alive but is now believed to be an actual soldier and thus is forced to continue fighting for the remainder of the war. Angel Eyes is content with the job since he sees less action then he used to as a criminal and starts to actually care about the cause. Angel Eyes becomes a better person but returns from the war to find his sister raped and killed at the hands of El Indio, causing Angel Eyes to take up his guns again and become a bounty hunter who seeks out El Indio. This is supported because both Manco and Mortimer seem to somewhat recognize each other.
Angel Eyes was shot in the face, friend. You can't survive from that.
@@Replicant_ actually you can but it doesn't matter because he wasn't...
@@johnnyringo5777 He was dead, also netither one man or another knows the other, they just recognize they are bounty hunters, Mortimer goes investigating in the newspapers and Manco with the Prophet and thus they learn who the other is. Angel Eyes was no rifle man, Mortimer was.
I read a fan-based supposition that Tuco went on to be the bandit chief Calvera in The Magnificent Seven
i always knew lee von cleef and the villains were different character in each movie
There is no timeline. Clint's character is probably the same but there is no continuity between the movies, even though they use the same character. He's like a stock character that can be thrown into any story.
Yes, but this movies "kinda" works as a one story when watched in reverse order.
Great video! Don't forget that Van Cleef gave him either dead man's clothes or old ones from himself, jeans, shirt and sheep skin waste coat.
Maybe Blondie&Tuco kept their old civilian clothes when using Confererate uniforms and Angeleye gave Blondie his civilian clothes back.
I thought the good bad and ugly was first as this is is where he finds his trade mark poncho.
I might wanna include Unforgiven here as the finale of the entire trilogy
Is that original opening for AFOD on an extras DVD? I've never seen it. The chap getting kicked in the river looks rather like Leone himself. He had a sharp sense of humour; I couldn't help noticing that the newspaper the Colonel is consulting in FAFDM was edited by Albert Grimalt, a reference to Alberto Grimaldi the film's producer.
The taking of the poncho in TGTBATU is a witty back reference by Leone who clearly did see it as a prequel to the other two; so he had some notion of a trilogy in his mind at that stage. The fact that the Joe's hat at the start of AFOD has bullet holes may be a coincidence, unless there is evidence that Leone had already planned the later hat shooting scene in FAFDM.
Very well done on the video and a nicely assembled narrative.
Thank you for the positive feedback.
The clip is from this video: th-cam.com/video/P9DlefEReQ8/w-d-xo.html
The facts are taken from MGMs Special Edition. One of the featurettes with Sir Christopher Frayling.
There are also bullet holes with him at the start of For a Few Dollars More so the hat factor is largely irrelevant
Very well edited. In the gb&u angel eyes gives him clothes to replace the confederate uniform he took. It was the shirt and vest get up seen in the other movies.
Thanks for that...I always thought it was just fistful and few dollars more
Great video
The only reason I haven't seen Once Upon a Time is because Clint Eastwood isn't in it. But I do love the score 🎵 by the great maestro, Ennio Morricone.
The Magnificent Stranger script, retitled to A Fistful of Dollars had a scene in the beginning explaining why Joe has the poncho and small horse in-fact the first shot, which you have there, is a pan up from his feet to his whole body revealing the punchline of the previous scene however, I’m not sure if it was ever shot.
Good analysis. I think the good the bad and the ugly was a so great budget for Leone to begin with.
I'll tell ya 😌 After killing Angel Eyes & giving Tuco his share, Blonde escapes. He moved to another city & lived his life under the name Manco. After a few years his money runs out so he becomes a bounty hunter again. But Angel Eyes is not dead. His henchmen saved his life but he lost his memory. He worked in the police force for several years & later became a bounty hunter. When he returned home, he found that his sister been raped & murdered. He decides to avenge her & is in hunt of Indio. When Manco meets Angel Eyes again he told his name to be Col Mortimier. Manco realizes that he had lost his memory but still partnered with him bcoz he didn't feel threatened by him. After killing Indio, Manco took all the money & lived in luxury for several years, but after the money ran out, he started looking for new opportunities. Now named as Joe, he comes face to face with a bad guy named Ramos but ultimately kills him & moved to another city where he started living by the name Will Munny. He there meets a woman named Claudia, whom he falls in love with. He married her & had two kids. Now he's changed man & is no longer a killer but a farmer. After Claudia's death & shortage of money, Will goes out again in manhunt in which he loses his best friend Ned but ends up killing Bill, a brutal officer. After which, he disappeared for good along with his kids & has been living a life in isolation since then 🫴
I was really confused in the third movie, thinking that Lee Van Cleef would actually be delighted to see Clint Eastwood.
i watched in this order.
1. TGTB&TU
2. FISTFUL OF DOLLARS
3. FAFDM
i think it works well in this order, i dont care either way
Fistful of Dollars is generally felt to be the latest in terms of year. We actually see some Model 1894 rifles and a belt fed machine gun. But Leone was pretty low budget at that point and Westerns, wherever filmed, tended to use available functioning weapons for which studio blanks were being produced. The belt fed gun is mocked up to resemble a Mitrailleuse gun from the 1860s(multi-barrel)and it appears to function with hoses for air and smoke(no belt with blanks).
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Only in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, can you pin down an actual date because the movie is based on historical events, Glorieta and the shelling of Peralta. What is truly amazing is that even the most knowledgeable civil war experts don’t know that these events occurred!
Glorieta is not depicted in the movie although it is referred to by a Confederate sergeant in a now-restored deleted scene. That battle was March 26-28, 1862, and the shelling of Peralta was April 14-15, 1862. There is also a film commentary which feels that the dead along the wagon trail are at Glorieta(another restored scene). Yet another restored scene references Apache Canyon and don’t miss that scene where Tuco and Blondie are arrested by a spy company...the officer might just be Capt. James “Paddy” Grayson.
The Confederate invasion of New Mexico territory began in 1861 when Confederates proclaimed a new state known as Arizona. Leone isn’t real ironclad on dates and history; he wanted to make an anti war film about the US Civil War and these events allowed him to do this as a Western. But is Eastwood the same person in this prequel? While Leone denies that the characters are connected, it’s pretty clear that Eastwood has changed in both mannerisms and appearance at the end of the movie. When he finds the poncho and puts it on, everybody knows who that is.
In A Fistful of Dollars if you pay close attention to the tombstones in the cemetary, you can see dates from the 1870's.
This is the only trilogy that works in reverse..
People wonder why lee van cleef played 2 characters but other actors appeared in all 3 movies and several in two movies, indio and ramon, groggy and brother ramirez, piripero and the prophet, and most chico-indio-the union officer
In for a few dollars more, the man with no name became rich at the end, so why would he go in another adventure while he can finally settle with that huge amount of money?
So, for me, I consider it to be the last movie in chronological order, not a Fistful of Dollars.
That's exactly what I thought as well. I like to assume that chronologically the movies are The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, A Fistful of Dollars and then finally For a Few Dollars More. If you set TGTBATU towards the end of the war you can string together that TGTBATU takes place first and finished with Blondie riding off with the confederate gold. I'd like to assume because it's the end of the war and Confederate Gold become essentially useless, Blondie had no use for it and decided to hide it in a secret area somewhere. He also had to go into hiding and flees to Mexico because he is probably considered wanted for essentially committing a war crime by blowing up that bridge. He probably spends a few years (and honestly let's not focus too much on the relevancy of the dates I feel like it jumbles it up) moving from town to town until eventually he stumbles into San Miguel and that's when For a Fistful of Dollars happens. Afterwards Blondie decides to go under the name Manco and do some bounty hunting as a job, eventually ending up meeting Mortimer and For a Few Dollars More happens. After that Clint retires to that farm he's talking about and lives out the rest of his life peacefully, settling down and hanging up his gun.
It is like the Conan movies, nobody ever got Robert Howard anywhere close to right. Leone did Fistful and almost got what he wanted. A Few Dollars was closer to what he wanted. Good, Bad, Ugly was the closest to the theme and character Leone wanted. But it was not perfect and he wanted another bite a the apple but could not get Eastwood to go along.
The only real flaw in this timeline is that if Angel Eyes IS Mortimer from few dollars more. He's killed at the end of Good, bad and ugly.
different people played by the same actor - no other link.
I'd like to add some informations
Tuco mentions his two friends, Ramon and some other dude who i forgot the name, both from the 1st movie. He says " God knows where they are now" (all shot down by Blondie).
Angels eyes and Mortimer keep the same golden watch or whatever that thing is.
These two informations may tell us it is a sequencial trilogy..
However, many actors play more than 1 role in the trilogy.
Such as: Ramon and indio played by the same guy.
That italian dude who is one of Indio's stooges and tuco's priest brother.
There's a blondie guy who is shot down in the three movies.
Angel eyes and Mortimer..
Etc .. etc ..
This is weird and confusing and make us believe that lee van cleef's roles are not the same. Or that he simply turned bad from the 2nd to the 3rd movie.
I believe it is a normal sequence. If it wasn't Why would Blondie work for americans and mexicans in exchange for a a few dollars since he got his 100k share in gold from the graveyard? Did he spend all of it?
Anyway I don't know what to believe anymore😂😂😂
I just like to watch since i love this trilogy.
Great video btw.
woahh ok few things, first of all is that "unused" opening of fistful of dollars legit??? i have been a fan of the trilogy for years and thats the first time ive heard of that. secondly the bullet holes in man with no names hat are there even before mortimer shoots at it in fafdm. next time you watch the movie take note so i think for a few dollars more could still take place after fistful
Thank you for the feedback! Yes, the unused opening is legit. On the extra material of A Fistful of Dollars Sir Christopher Frayling talks about the original script for "Il Magnifico Straniero" (later A Fistful of Dollars" were this is the opening.
I agree. TGTBTU > AFOD -> FAFDM was the order i saw them as.
@@StianAOlsenFirst of all, thanks for editing this video & upload here for our Dollars Trilogy & Clint Eastwood fans. Though it seems to be a logical timeline for the Trilogy. I've also watched the behind the scene video "the making of Fistful of Dollars" few years ago, and appreciated to the film crew very well kept it for over 50 years and transformed from film to 4K digital format uploaded to TH-cam, since it can not be found in any extra bonus from any previous released MGM's DVD or Blu-ray until the latest 4K versions Blu-ray. Back to the iconic poncho, if Blonde already got it from the dead soldier, why Leone shot the scene that Joe kick the fat guy(seem played the role by himself)😂 into river & took his poncho away that he intended to put it in the beginning of Fisful of Dollars according to the original script at 1964? Besides, apart from the role of Clint Eastwood, it's hard to explain how the transformation of other roles already dead but reborn in the Trilogy such as Angel eye to Col Mortimer, El Indio to Ramon and the villian gang throughout played by the same actors Lee Van Cleef, Gian Maria Volonte, Luigi Pistilli, Aldo Sambrell, Mario Brega, Lorenzo Robledo. etc.
Why does Clint Eastwood have holes in his hat in the beginning of AFOD?
in "The Good..." the hat also have holes
It also means that he was carrying one million dollars with him in the bag in A Fistful of Dollars
Who was going to play the harmonica character?
The GBHU was a prequel
They are all connected and the timeline is backwards with TGTBATU first, for a few dollars more and then a fistful of dollars. Van cleef plays the same character and so does blondie
Nah man. TGTBATU > AFOD > FAFDM. (although it doesn't really matter)
Translated into Chinese ...A fist Full of Yen ...
Damn I wished I would have known this the first time I watched all of these. I have always complained about Lee Van Clef’s character progression from A Few Dollars More to what it was in TGTB&TU as absolutely ludicrous. And it actually ruined TGTB&TU for me.
They are two different characters played by the same actor - that's all.
Song?
The dollar trilogy is also famous for its soundtrack and omitting it by replacing it with a piece of music is unforgivable negligence.
Morricone's music is legendary, but since I don't have the rights to use it in my video I used a royalty-free alternative.
@@StianAOlsen ..in this case you are right.
@@StianAOlsen You worry too much, they're not going to come knocking on your door for that. If they did take your vid down that's the time to switch the music. Great video though :)
@@matoko123 I almost lost my channel in November due to copyright claim... Gotta be careful :D
@@StianAOlsen Fair do's :)