What kind of force is used in Chinese Internal Martial Arts?
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- What kind of force is used in Chinese Internal Martial Arts?
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This engine is a bit of mind blowing.. For the less advanced between us, relaxation, structure, syncing and coordination together produces a good engine which also takes years to get right... One of the thing I can see in the video is that you are changing the angle of your force which breaks the structure and force of the opponent..
I'm working on this right now. Thanks for sharing Sifu Sergio!
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I like it when you describe that process as a never ending path by mentioning your very high level instructors. It is true! Think about Yukiyoshi Sagawa (1902-1998) who was an absolute internal monster and was still progressing in his nineties!
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Really good topic! I am interested to see the video tomorrow. Thank you Sifu!
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I keep watching this one over and over this is a incredible explaination, I really want to experiment it again and again thanks Sifu Sergio for your sharing and your kindness
Wow, I REALLY enjoyed this. Thank you so much for this video!
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Thank you for these Videos Sifu 🙏 I love the way you explain all those details of Wing Chun 🙂👍
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great session. thank you for sharing.
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...it's great to see not only your achievement in the "chi" realm, but your growth in spiritual-character development as well.
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The video is amazing as always! I have a question...
There are sifus and practictionaires who say that if you do weight training/strength training because you like it...or you like to be in shape or to have a natural muscular physique...or even just for the health benefits of that type of training...you can't practice internal arts, because you can't abandon the use of physical force and certainly you can't achieve the higher levels in the internal arts.
Honestly, I disagree…they are probably opposites, but they are two different things. But obviously, I’m ignorant on the internal arts…so I could be wrong.
Can you make a video on this topic? I saw a lot of people interested on this matter, it would be very useful for a lot of people like me.
Thank you very much Sifu Sergio!
Ok Will do a video on that in the future, don’t expect it too soon though
@@SifuSergioChannel Thank you! 🙏
I second that. My sifu has always told me that lifting affects with internal training. @SifuSergioChannel do you have any updates on the video? Thanks!
@@andreasolsen8922It’s something that has always discouraged me (and many others, probably) from starting with the fascinating internal arts.
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I have some questions about this? Using ging Can you do push ups, pull ups...? Or is that you control the body of the person? Where do you put the mind? On the person's body?
Is this like mesmerism? You can freeze a person without the sinking of the body of the person?
I think you have one of the highest level of internal style wing chun, but I'm sceptical about chi, no matter what type... The thing is, there are many levels, methods, but for me, chi is still just breathing, and feeling your center of mass, also breathing, and slow movements, can improve your focus, sensitivity. HOWEVER!!! Physics is just physics, chi or not, you cannot deny it... So called internal energy for me, it means operating with structure, gravity, center of mass, leverage, manipulate your opponents center of mass, while you do not feel u use too much force, and one overlooked aspect is TIMING! You can manipulate balance, with one finger, if you are good, and it is a demo kinda situaiton.
I think maybe you even belive this what you teach, but it is still using vectors, connecting your arms to your weight, etc... You can do sinking your weight, then explode, but you can also just stand stable, and use only your arms with the right vectors, and you can offbalance people, or make them hard to resist!!
TIMING wich is not really shown here, forexample, if you push someones arm, just befor they make it stiff, and you have good stability in your legs, they will just push themselves away. You can do this even siting down, because you still have connection to earth.
Some people like sifu Nima, Tsui sheung Tin student, demonstrate stuff while he is jumping to prove internal force, but he is still using his weight aswell gravity, becase he is doing his stuff, while he is actually already falling down to earth.
You can literally trick yourself, to really belive what you say, and there are some "masters" who just want you to be a student for lifetime, so they say esoteric stuff as an explanation, and you pick by accident your bad masters moves, or you never see the light...
I think internal martial arts is a complex thing, not just one method, but you o not even need breathing excercise to perform most of theese methods. I have seen even old school Judo masters, who you could consider internal martial artists in my eyes, because some old masters of judo really knew how to use your opponents force, and make effortless throws. Just because they use bigger movements, it is not really different from a taichi throw, in terms of feeling, if you are doing it in a relaxed way...
Yes, what most people consider internal martial arts, is something like, you just move your hands, and opponent fly, and you can do that to some extent, but literally all taichi styles use body moves, mobility, and what so ever.
Using structure, is still the most powerful force, according to physics, specially if we talk about a push, because whiping style punches generate big force too, and do not structure on impact connected to the ground, BUT if you want to manipulate center of mass of the opponent, the only way to do it without structure, is offbalancing them, wich is not the same as "Force" power, because you can do it only a finger, using vectors, leverage, directional chainging forces, aswell you can use timing, or "making" your opponent stiff, in a way that is good for you to manipulate them...
Sifu Sergio, watch you demonstrate and explain seems like a clever usage of the total body structure, relaxed more on periphery and with controlled tension more in the center of the body. I imagine, that the attention is put more on the center of own body than on the point of contact with partner/oponent. Is that correct?
You nailed it. There are some more details to it but it is not mistycal chi. It is the turning external forci into chi type of explanation that is misleading. And that is why it takes 10-15 or more years to accomplish it. And only a few can do it (I can see he is good) because of the misleading explanation. I did some experiments and I showed the basics to a complete beginner with no "sink you chi etc" BS and after a few week he doubled his power. No 10 years, no chi involved. I say with the correct explanation and drills it takes 6 months or a year to get waaay above "normal" power lever depending on the person's skills, talent. What he showed when pushing down the arms I could make a person do it in 10-15 minutes. To apply it under pressure is a different thing...
Good video. It’s really hard to get across how internal arts work. Most people can’t understand it, yet say they do… but they don’t. You can’t lay taijiquan onto what you know, you have to change to it and when you get it, it feels the exact opposite to what you thought it was. This is why I think hardly anyone understands it as you can’t until you internalise it. It’s also hard to teach as everyone tries to understand it from an external point of view. Take sinking, nearly everyone externalises it and physically sink into a lower stance, that isn’t what it is at all, you sink through the frame your in, don’t move the frame.
I haven’t travelled like you, but I’ve only ever pushed hands with one person who really had sung, Peng, sinking… taiji. His name was Jan Diepersloot, out of 200 odd people at an event, he was the only one who had it and it felt like nothing I’d felt before…. Borrowing energy.
Jan diepersloot is my Sihing under Sifu Sam Tam so I am not suprised he had it 😉
@@SifuSergioChannel well, if you see him, tell him a man from the U.K. who met him in France many years ago finally got it and it’s all thanks to him and his books. I got a copy of his first Warriors in stillness book from him there and it’s nearly worn out, I have a few copies and the rest of the series now, they’re the best books out there imo.
But if a person is physically weak and not quite healthy, the first step would be to develop Li (Lik), wouldn't it?
Internal power starts in the fascia tissues, and cannot be trained without standing practice. You need enough muscle to stand upright and for long periods of time. No need to bend the knees, just standing normally is sufficient. Your legs especially will feel it. It needs to be strong enough to support the deliberate relaxed state of your body.
Sifu bitte zeige was man gegen schwinger oder haken machen kann. danke.
Even if 98% do not understand you,
i appreciate your contend.
But i already know.
I agree with the 98% but I am doing my best to educate and open up more minds to the truth, thank you for the feedback
May I ask what has been your motivation over the years to continue practicing and deepening your abilities?
The intension to protect yourself and your family,
12 years later it might be joy !
But maybe i am wrong...
@@torstenbeck640He had that ability many years ago already, so that's why I ask what is the motivation to continue.
@@jacksonscully5030 He's always had a deep passion for Chinese martial arts.
As said: This skill is not for everybody, it takes time to develop it. Isn´t it about phased use o forces, like Phase one - isometrics force to the level of opponentś force to "freezes" him and Phase two: adding an extra force to take control.? Just asking. Paul,68
What you describe Is def one of the problems of martial arts
Would be great if you explain how to apply force without tensing the muscle. Does the power come from the lats instead of bicep and triceps?
@LooneyBinUK hmm I think he kind of answered my question. Imagine it as a force or energy being expelled through the point of contact. This is the higher level of it, I think I want to learn more about the midpoint which he spoke about (7 bows). Seems to be easier to attain and you can use it whilst your get to the full development
Most of the power, merely comes from linking your entire relaxed body mass. If one person is merely using their Arm... and I am using the weight of my entire body... How can they win? Can you lift me up (200 lbs) , with only the strength of your Single Arms muscular power?! Also, even if you can find a freak that might be capable of such a feat... they might only be able to do it... when the weight is stable (not moving). When in a combat situation, you are moving your body mass, multiplying the level of forces involved... as well as changing the vectors, making it extremely unlikely that they would be able to handle such energy.
Part of it is Elastic forces. Where your body acts like a Bow / Spring. Making it difficult for the OP to be able to issue power against you.. because you are not Static. Sort of like trying to push a 200 lb blob of Jello.. vs.. a Solid File Cabinet. Part of the energy storage, comes from the bending of the limbs.. and part comes from the actual Joints / Tendons being stretched. Once charged up... you can "Release" all of that energy against them.
Its even a bit more complicated than that... but, that should be enough to understand some of the main principles at work.
I will add, that its often that LEVERAGE is also in play. In Tai Chi, for example... Ive seen the Master prevent a Jacked body builder from pushing him. One of the Secrets, was that he cupped his arms under the body builders elbows. This not only linked him to the dude.. but in essence, it changed the leverage factors. You see... if you were trying to lift a dude up.. but this man was standing Under your own Feet... it would make it impossible. In the case of putting your arms under their elbows / arms... you are getting UNDER their own body mass... and their entire body mass power. Basically, you are using their own mass, to further weight you down.
There are many ways to connect with the OP, to easily use their own bodies against them. As once you are connected... you basically SHARE the mass that is Created.
@@johndough8115 thank you
The physical body or leverage has NOTHING to do with these skills. They require CHI ENERGY.
Sifu if it's not breathing what's then this special force ? Can you explain more please
Hei (Qi) mobilised in the Dan Tien and the send out in different types of Ging (Jin)
@@SifuSergioChannel thanks for the reply i was hoping to explain more how can tap or know if someone doing right because i meditate and do breathing exercises i feel like fire or hot under my belly button after some time i started to feel energy move in my limbs and hands i was thinking its normal but when i touch anyone or shake hands they say why your hands are hot even in cold so what is this?
Does practising Xingyi (Hebei style) everyday help you get there?
It could with the right teacher
@@SifuSergioChannelamazing demonstration sifu. Thank yiy
Hello. You've been teaching for so many years, why don't you train a student to fight in some big tournaments? Kung Fu is ridiculed because of your magic spells. Martial art is primarily for fighting, not just for training among trusted followers. Please show your skills sometime with someone who is at a good level in other martial arts. You mentioned that you practice BJJ... do you use "chi energy" when fighting wrestlers? (if so, you must be undefeated there :) ) With all due rescpect.
My journey and mission is helping people cultivate Mind, Body and Energy, I am not at all interested in hurting other people through Martial arts. Thank you for your comment
I use to ask the same questions about why not get in a ring? When you get in to it you will find that there is a lot of force being generated. If the opponent is over committed he can get seriously hurt. MMA is a sport and with the internal it is a way of life. Internal guys like Sifu Sergio take this lifestyle attitude and they could seriously hurt someone.
@@nvisblfist1So could the MMA guys. That’s why it’s better to stay out of the ring of you aren’t a ring guy.