P-51s at 500MPH -- RENO 2017
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- A huge thank you to Steven Hinton and the rest of Team Voodoo for allowing me to come into the pit, photograph, and interview during an incredibly busy time for them. Another thank you to Kelly Glenn, RARA, and Media Ops. Congratulations to Jay Consalvi, Tiger Destefani, and Team Strega for their 2017 Reno Gold in a race that will never be forgotten!
A taste of what's to come on this channel. It's been a long time since I've uploaded; for those of you to whom I've promised I would upload footage from the pylons, the wait is over. The ramp-up to RENO 2018 is in full swing, and I cannot wait to be back out on the Stead infield taking photos and videos yet again. Thanks for sticking with me.
Fly low. Go Fast. Turn Left.
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A taste of what's to come on this channel. It's been a long time since I've uploaded; for those of you to whom I've promised I would upload footage from the pylons, the wait is over. The ramp-up to RENO 2018 is in full swing, and I cannot wait to be back out on the Stead infield taking photos and videos yet again. Thanks for sticking with me.
Fly low. Go Fast. Turn Left.
The F22 of its' era. The most amazing part is that we are looking at 80 year old technology! Wow.
Our elders weren't stupid back then, huh? They were highly intelligent folk who built amazing things. God bless 'em all. 🙂
@@Predator42ID: What area would that be?
@j mcmann: Not true. Mach 1 is 760 m.p.h. the top speed of the P-51D is
440 m.p.h. with the Rolls Royce built, two speed double supercharged 12 cylinder V 1650-7 Merlin engine which produces 1490 h.p. @ 3,000 r.p.m's (1,720 h.p. with WEP).
The rear stabilizer is a two piece stabilizer which swivels the elevator toward the aft of stabilizer for climbing, or diving. At supersonic speeds, they have no effect because the air is disturbed at the leading edge of the stabilizer and it moves outward away from the elevator, causing it to become ineffective, which is why so many pilots died during rocket plane testing at Edward's Airforce Base during the early 50's, until Chuck Yeager figured out how to break the speed of sound while traveling upward, instead of straight and level flight. He learned to use the trim tabs somewhat worked to control the planes pitch attitude at Mach 1 speeds. They afterward learned to design the rear stabilizer into a single tail, where the whole stabilizer moves, that way it will be effective through and after Mach 1 speeds. That's why ALL our Mach 1 fighter jets have a solid stabilizer on the tail of the planes.
@j mcmann: Actually, it doesn't in the sentence above. It makes the statement read, "ITSES", not (its). 😁
@j mcmann: ACTUALLY, the P-51D service ceiling is 41,900 feet. STILL high enough for kicking ass. 😁
As an audio engineer and a long-time aviation buff and pilot, I love the sound of the aircraft in this video. Very well captured. Thank you.
Whatever the plane is at 0:48 and the champ piloting it, the sound it makes on approach will forever stay with me. What a beautiful sound and plane.
Absolute chills and goosebumps on that last flyby with the slow buildup.
Days gone by! When Bardahl Special came down the chute with "that sound" that we hadn't heard since the 2017 race, it gave the same chills and goosebumps. Thanks for watching.
Such beautiful aircraft love watching these old warriors roar through the skies again gives me chills
I'm gonna make that sound out the front door when this virus is over ;^)
Too many pork and beans?? lol Just kiddin. Later.
@@fredboat Taco Tuesday became Taco April
Communist China Wuhan bio-weapons laboratory virus
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HahaHa... Me Too !
The brits know how to make a sweet sounding V12. Those Merlin engines were designed on a drawing board with slide rules and pencils 80 years ago and those old Rolls Royce engineers got everything right. Just shows you what engineers could do when necessity dictated the mother of invention back in the day. That thunderous applause from those Merlin engines is the sound of the engine that helped win WW2 for 2 of the 3 allies the British and Americans. It’s still adored by both countries to this day and rightly so.
nobody:
what i thought i looked like when i was running on the playground as a kid:
Easily one of the best Reno videos ever made, well done!!!
Wow, thanks so much for the kind words.
That noise I fucking love these engines
The P51 is an outstanding example of what happens when engineers are given a job and left to get on with it. Ordered by the British Purchasing Commission - who were too far away to interfere - it was rolled out in just over 100 days. And once it got a Merlin engine with Stanley Hooker's supercharger it was game-over for the opposition.
That is by far the most aggressive sigh I’ve ever heard. Is so smooth yet so vicious at the same time.
Yep u give me hope.dad took me 2 air races when I was 4 years old. Never to the stands but on track but they limited that cept 4 red rock ( valley of speed)I find myself making that engine sound all the time.hell might make it my ring tone .
To get out to one of the pylons during race week is so high on my avgeek bucket list!
Screamin' Merlins and growling Pratt and Whitneys. Love it.
@daAnder71 Fixed.Thanks.
My grandsons and my dream is just to sit in one of these let alone fly in one!!
Reno 2021 is just around the corner! Hang around in the pits and he just might get that wish granted!!
RENO is on my bucket list of Aviation, along with Mach Loop.
Imagine the sound these planes would make if they were able to hit mach speeds. Regardless, absolutely incredible sound. Beautiful.
The prop hits mach sat on the ground if you try to make a regular plane that fast, it makes the ground crews sick and passes off any resident withing 10 miles of the airfield yanks tried it once for the air force
You should look at the XF-84H.
@@zer0deaths862 vomit inducing
The wings would be ripped long before that. That’s where the modern swept wing design comes in, it can withstand mach
@ Pylonproductions... You may know this man and his gathering place....
So Awsome!!.. Me and a group of friends walked into a neat bar about 20 years ago that had a P51 Mustang engine in a glass display center piece , "RollsRoyce , I believe, and Much bigger that I would have imagined" .. surrounded by pool tables. The layout of the place was tall and open.. good size. Above and all around , were quality speakers that were obviously synced perfectly with the Fantastic audio system .... For our Thrilling pleasure ..
... ( We 4 , were the only patrons to arrive at that brunch time session , to a brand newly opened business ) ... The owner shared his intriguing plane racing stories .. And THEN.. He played for us , at a Thunderously Sweet Volume , An audio recording from one of these races... the microphones were well placed in each tower along the course that the mustang's ripped past.
It was Fantastic !!!
... I'm shaking with excitement now... It was such a Treat , and a unique idea. I will never forget that place and I only hope that it remains for a return visit. .. Kitsap Co. Washington State. If you find yourself there, it's well worth a visit.. if you're into Good Beer, ricocheting balls off rails and the Ambiance of a High Speed Aerial Prop Race ! 🍻🍻🍻🍻👍🏼
I'm fascinated that the Merlin is still the first choice when in theory the Griffon should produce more power. Fabulous stuff. Thankyou.
The P-51 Precious Metal is/was a Reno unlimited racer and used a Griffon and a contra-rotating prop. It sounded freaking awesome :)
Imagine if we had the advanced cameras we had now to see them operate in the past. From this video, i feel like i could easily imagine it to some extent now
Germans: “hit ze deck”
Thanks ,Man what a ride, That will make your heart thump. I was suppose to go to Reno this August 2020 for work and planed to go to the air races , Maybe .?
Hopefully you'll get your chance in 2021!
How many G’s are they pulling around the pylon?
@Joel Greer probably between 3-4 Gs on the Valley of Speed turns; the High G Ridge between pylons 4 and 5 has a sharper turn that produces upwards of 5 Gs. Here's a video by Voodoo1650 (crew member of Race #5, Voodoo) that has an onboard telemetry system showing the Gs throughout the flight: th-cam.com/video/3e1f89eidFs/w-d-xo.html
Yes
They pull a LOT of 'G's when they go those speeds around each pylon, 'cause as they're screaming into the turns, they're screaming "GEE WIZ!" and that's a lot of 'G's.
3-4 gs is correct as no unlimited has hit the 500 mark. In the jets who regularly fly the course over 500 will be in the 5-6G range . When you come around home pylon and the winds are 20=30kts, we will have 550moh times and you might need 6-8 Gs to bend it around pylon 2 and 3.
Need to see you back at Reno steve-o but come to jets if you want to fly fast..
Holy shit !!! LOVE those old prop planes !
Gotta make it to Reno! Nowhere else like it!
My neighbour Hugo Broch likes this video. Greetings from Leverkusen, Germany.
Outstanding sounds indeed.
Some people TALK about "flyin' low." These guys *DO IT!!!* WOOF!
Talk about being close to the deck... o_O
This is the closest thing to pod racing!!👌👌
❤️❤️❤️
Amazing sound ....
I love that voodoo you do so well.
Sooo cool!
With that kind of speed, they could kick an ME-262 up and down the street even though the ME is a bit faster- but not as maneuverable from what I've read. I can only dream about proving it first-hand.
You think it's cool on video, you should go see it live. Been there one time, 1982, when I was deployed to NAS Fallon with VMA-214 out of MCAS El Toro. It was impressive.
Agreed. I make these videos to hopefully stir up some interest and convince people to go see it for themselves. There's really nothing like it anywhere else. Thanks for watching, and thanks for your service.
We still get some aircraft from Fallon on static at Reno from time to time. VFC-13 usually brings a couple of F-5s, and NAWDC will sometimes bring a Hornet or Super Hornet.
Strictly Audio, in my case experience, was SO Awsome.
Blacksheep?? Wow sir!
Looks and sounds great.
Shame these races don't get covered like NASCAR...not fair. Beats the hell outta NASCAR any day.
That sounds so cool. I love going to air shows.
Miramar and Edwards my to go since I live in California. Nice video..
That there is the ride of your life
Crap, fly over my house.....make my neighbor crap herself.. let me get my camera going. I'm ready🤣
I live nearby, get to listen to them for two weeks coming up to the races. I've had military aircraft flying in formation less than 1000 feet over my house, and it's amazing.
I love this aircraft
The unlimiteds never made the 500mph on the course. Come back to Reno Steve-o and if you want to go fast, come to the jets. We are the ONLY 500+ planes at Reno. 551mph is our course record.
Cheers from the Jet class...
I remember those sound in cartoons in the 70s...
And they say porn isn’t allowed on TH-cam...
Awesome!
Thank you!
NASCARs of the Air 🏁
Does the modified scoop create drag or speed like the stock one does?
The best person to answer this would probably be a crew chief on an airplane like Voodoo or Strega (or Dago Red), but the idea with the modified scoop is to reduce drag when compared with the stock scoop. It doesn't hang quite as low below the fuselage and isn't as wide. I don't know how much thrust the stock scoop "creates" as I don't have a good source, so I'm not sure comparatively what the modified scoop does.
@@Pylon5Productions Okay thanks for your help.
I wonder what the mustang could do with the new double props
How lucky can one be to fly this!
I've been a motorsports fan for 50 years but will admit I don't get air racing. Isn't one airplane simply faster than the others?
The short answer is yes and no at the same time, and the long answer probably starts with 'it depends.' There are a lot of variables at play.
For starters, in some classes, the airplanes are regulated to be virtually the same--such as the T-6 class, in which heavy modification is prohibited. In Unlimited racing, in the lower tiers where stockers usually reside, the answer can be yes; a stock Sea Fury will almost always beat out a stock Mustang (especially when most stock Mustangs don't run incredibly high power settings for fear of destroying an otherwise perfectly serviceable engine). But in the regime of the Unlimited Gold racers, it's not always so cut and dry. There are extensive speed mods that go into most of the top contenders, and many times it will come down to which race engine was better prepared, and which will burn down. Sometimes, it can come down to the skill of the pilot. Many different designs have won over the years; there is not really one set airplane that is *always* guaranteed to win, although in recent years, the teams behind Voodoo and Strega have really built the pinnacle of the highly modified Mustang, and it does seem really tough to beat. Just for an example, September Fury (or Race 232) had been capable of speeds over 480 MPH in 2013, some of the highest speeds run by a Sea Fury in Reno's history. That would've been plenty to beat just about every airplane in the lineups of the 1980s and many races since, but the competition in 2013 was just so great that September Fury ran about the third fastest airplane. So to answer your question, it really depends on who shows up, which equipment performs well, and which pilots/crews are willing to risk the most to get the most out of their machines.
Move it to Buckeye AZ!
Looks like the next site will be Roswell, NM in 2025.
RIP. My ever dearest Grandpa Tatang Bert’s relatives from Clark Air Base. Please help me visit Sangley Point and Clark Air Base. 🇬🇧🇺🇸❤️❤️
When did VOODOO have a change or color? What engibe is in there?
Johan Ferreira Rolls Royce Merlin engine or something else I believe it’s been modified but original p51d had a Merlin
I wonder how regularly these airframes get ndt inspection when they are being used in such an extreme way
I'm wondering if there are any regulations on that now. It might have prevented The Galloping Ghost crash in 2011.
Goodness I want to race Reno. Hope I can find a team some day.
I'M IN ! .. no actual fly time ... But I've visualized it All my life.. What a rush..
Don't forget the bucket load of cash for a plane. 😁
Oh yeah
Racers shorten the wings for higher speeds. Original P-51 can cruise higher than most private jets and airlines.
The war birds were not unlike the f22 5 yrs behind schedule delivery and some millions of dollars over budget, also there will no interest in keeping alive, restored f22 in 60 yrs , keep the great work going on these p47, p51 etc, Big UK Fan
F U C K I N G G R E A T !!!
Thank you! Finally fixed the volume issues :)
Have there ever been Spitfire or ME109 air racers at Reno
Probably not, because they're slow
@@rya7642 The later Griffon engined Spitfires could shift!
Why has no one made a modern prop plane that can compete with the old ones. Imagine a 25 liter v12 made with modern materials and technology that would be insane it would prorbably be pushing 8 or 9k hp i know it wouldnt increase the top speed but the climb and acceleration would be off the charts including if the airframe was made with modern materials. Guess i will just have to dream about it
I'm guessing it's because the human body can only withstand so much. 3 to 4k HP seems to be enough to get you in big trouble. They also race Jets around the pylons which are made of modern materials but they too are not going much beyond 500MPH.
That would be awesome to see! Nothing like piston power!!
Simple - it's pointless. Too expensive, too much to loose, too less to gain. Or, as Steve Hinton said: "The P51 is as good as it gets". You can pump up the engines more, you can crank out more HP - no problem. But the weak point is the Prop. How to get the power transformed into speed. That's where it's going to get really expensive...
@@jorgsobota2228 Funny you say that, which is true. Back In the 70s they thought drag cars could never be any faster then what they were beacause of "tires". Lol, but look now. They over came that issue didn't they? Someday, they will find a better way to make props. More efficient?? I don't know, but better, ya I think so. Props today are no more efficient then they were in the days of the Wright brothers. But they are better.
@@521CID C-130 Scimitar props aren't better than the older ones?
STEVO!!!
The man, the myth, the legend!
Damn these are Monster propeller Planes !
Like when did this idea of sub sonic ww2 planes racing began !?
Obviously modified structurally because at those speeds was when we started to have Afterburning Jets !
No... the P51 could withstand that speed without major problems. These are not warbirds, I’d even say these racing aircraft are less structurally strong since most aircraft during ww2 were armored which makes them heavier. And full combat spec, 109s, 51s, Tempests reaches these speeds arguably easier than these racing planes do. You have to consider the parts where new back then and engineers had special ways of tweaking the engine to maximize performance.
Chill on the top gun aesthetic. DUDE chill
Haha, what?
@@Pylon5Productions my brother was showing me this and I commented on the first minute with the sunglasses....the jacket and PLANES. So for me who isn't a fanatic of planes it kinda looked like a top gun imitation. But a very nice video to be honest.
Electric cars should have this sound playing, at least you would here them in a car park.
500 mph...how does a prop produce that!? A10’s do 450🇺🇸❤️✅ ...incredible sound😃
If you were an enemy back in the 30s-40s, if you heard this coming it was a bad day indeed
Wish the push pull Pfeil was part of it.
I want one!!
0:49 is that a Hawker sea Fury ?
David Green it is! A highly modified one called “Dreadnought,” owned and operated by Sanders Aeronautics out of Ione, CA.
Thats about 460 knots! Piston Prop! About the same as a Me 262!
nah a me 262 still go faster
466 knots is around 480 mph a Me 262 was capable of 540 mph However there were several prop engined planes approaching 500 mph. The P 51 K.(472) The sea hornet (475) . Supermarine Spiteful (496) even the experimental P 47 J (504)
460 kts is 530mph
@@Retronyx: Yep. Me-262 top speed is 560 m.p.h. just a bit faster.
@@michaelnaisbitt1639: Me-262 top speed is 560 m.p.h. (490 knots).
AmAziNg
A propeller plane can't go much faster than that.
DO 335: HAHAHAHAHA
@@Retronyx these guys are way faster than the DO-335. Race #5 (Voodoo) is the absolute piston powered world speed record holder at 531 mph.
Definitely the pepperoni pizza of its kind.
I thought that was Neil Patrick Harris at the beginning of the video
A Family Hinton's sr & jr Legacy
Enough Said....
They're ready for the battle of England...
You only have to save enough to get home on.
Thats not 500mph thats not even close, id eat a shoe if it was... its at best 490 mph.
This is the correct take.
No it was 487 MPH
But the air speed was 491
... and a half..
Sounds a bit like my next door neighbours vibrator (through the wall).
GIT YA SOME! 😁
Why do boomers always think the p-51 was some sort of a state of the art wonder plane as if they don't know any other models existed?
What a moronic comment. Probably a Biden supporter.
Must be nice to have all that loot
They are souped.merlins .airframe avionics fuel oxygen etc
I was sitting in the stands during 2011
I was there the year before Galloping Ghost went into the VIP stands. So sad. Love the air races. Want to go back.
Those V-12 Rolls Royce Merlin engines are the same one used to power the original hydroplane Unlimited class, I believe. Sure sounds like them. And they sound sweeeeet.
well it it definetely sound of man
Jets are nice with all the computer equipment. You really aren't flying. Give me a Mustang any time, any day, any where. That is flying.
Not one computer on any jet at Reno....... raw power......
Computers? You mean weapons systems and systems that display statistics? You’re flying the aircraft. Not the computer unless you use autopilot.
@@slavicco8368 what ever works for you champ. check into it a little more and find out how MUCH of the aircraft the computers are operating
1:02 thats a C model isnt?
I think the "official" designation for that airplane is an XP-51A, and it is marked as such, but if I remember correctly it is kind of an amalgamation of some different variants (like D-model wings). It used to be the P-51A "Polar Bear."
@@Pylon5Productions: Didn't the 'C' model have the full glass canopy for 360° view?
@@glenturney4750 Some of them had the "Malcom Hood" which is kinda a cross between the bubble and the "bird-cage;" others had a similar canopy to the A model in the video. The D was famous for the bubble canopy.
@@Pylon5Productions: Yeah, afterward, I looked up the different models and saw that. I don't understand why they didn't just make it a bubble canopy in the A model on down? It would make better sense being that the pilots could see if an enemy is coming in from behind? I never understood why even the Germans didn't design theirs with bubbles either, 'cause the right conditions, anybody could just sneak up from behind and grease 'em out of the sky. If I designed a fighter, I'd also install a small monitor with a camera pointing aft and lower than the tail wheel to watch for sneakies coming up from lower behind. Maybe even another camera to watch directly under the aircraft, so as to not run into somebody who may be flying directly underneath. I'd also install machine guns in the wings pointing outward down the wing spars to grease the enemy fighters who happened to fly past me on either side. I know they're a bit heavy, but there's ways to compensate for that in making the wings a little thicker for more lift. 😁
My father in law was avP51 ace and pow those are copies
They are not stock P-51's far from it.To bad there's no more Typhoons they had 2500 HP twice that of the Spitfire and Mustang.
The German pushPull prop Pfeil was bad too
The German pushPull prop Pfeil was bad too
Tempests would be better since they were the fastest operating aircraft at sea level. Typhoons were not as fast.
Without the whistle just doesn't sound right.
Still think it is sacrilege to mutilate beautiful classics this way....
frdml01 - agree 100%. Seems to me they’re pushing these old airframes too far...wasn’t there a serious crash at Reno a few years back that killed some people and wrote off a P51.
I don't agree with this take. Voodoo was a wreck when it was rebuilt into a racer. If it weren't turned into a racer, it may have been scrapped. Strega was abandoned before being turned into a racer. Many of these racers have more "history" as racers than they do as "warbirds;" most of them were either converted long ago, or were rebuilt from incomplete airframes or crashes. Some were surplus. There are very few, if any, aircraft racing that have been "mutilated" recently, and fewer still that saw any combat action that were then turned into racers. These aircraft are perhaps the *peak* accomplishment of piston-driven technology. The things that these owners, teams, and pilots are doing with this technology are true modern marvels, and we may never see the likes of them again.
Furthermore, most of these modifications are custom made. The original parts are, in many cases, still out there. Many a racer has returned to stock before, and some continue to undergo this process. It is not like it is something that cannot be undone. In fact, I would rather more warbirds remain as racers than be converted to TF-51s or the likes, because as of now, there are more TF-51s in circulation than were ever produced by NAA. While I disagree with it, it's not my money, and I don't consider it "mutilation."
Just my 2 cents.
@@Pylon5Productions but pimping up a wreck into a mutilated racer is not a rebuild. A real restauration would do real justice to these classic beauties.
@@frdml01 I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think it's amazing the things that people have been able to accomplish with a mixture of both 75-year old technology and modern mechanics and know-how. Of course I love the classic warbirds, but in my opinion, the aviation world needs these racers just as it does the classics.
These aircraft are works of engineering artistry. Calling them "mutilated" is insulting, and quite frankly idiotic.
Nice sound, but defo not 500mph.
Voodoo and Strega were defo pushing 500 that year.
500mph=804km/h😨!!!!!
1:24
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Nothing about this plane is a P-51
Voodoo? If there were an FAA registration called Super-Stang, I’d list it as such. As it stands, it’s registered as an F-51D, so that’s what I’ll keep calling it.
Thanks for watching.
Das sind über 800 Km/h...falls das jemanden interessiert...wtf
Sorry, the unlimited do not go 500 on the course. Leave that to the fastest planes at Reno ....the Jet Class. The Gold Jets 30 to 50 mph faster than the unlimiteds ... The unlimited might hit 4-5Gs......yawn.....come to the Jet class. Add 2 Gs and. 50 mph...
Great video Steve-o. See you at Reno.
Michael Steiger