Harbaugh told everyone....we're gonna run the ball, we're gonna play great defense, take the pressure off of Herbert, and we're gonna play solid football. That was the most Harbaugh game ever. They kept Crosby, Adams, Bowers, and Mayer in check. And yeah, CNTR/ALT/DELETE....awesome to see. In prior years, the Bolts dig deep and find a way to lose that game. At no point in the 2nd half was I at all concerned the Chargers would blow it. Buckle up NFL, it's gonna be a fun season
Its definitely Harbaugh football. But the lack of depth on passing game is going to be exposed with good teams. You can’t just run the ball with someone like Herbert and itchy fingers to throw down the field.
And what happens when KC goes up by 2 scores early and they have to abandon the run? That being said, I actually like the Chargers and have since the Natron Means and Tolbert days. Love a smash mouth back
@@sriramkaushal226 It'll definitely be a conversation right? The Raiders were flying high because they went into KC last year and beat them. Yeah, they have Adams, but still, they did it with smashmouth football. Not sure what Harbaugh has in store for them but the defense looked great and even though the Chiefs have Karloftis and Jones, the Chargers took care of business in the trenches against the Raiders D and that is very promising. Who knows? Maybe the Chargers have more time to throw when they meet the Chiefs and McKonkey looks like the second coming of Keenan. I'm just stoked that Harbaugh called his shot and it worked. So tired of watching the Bolts getting outmuscled. I was laughing when they started a fight in the 4th quarter....like, yeah, I wouldn't pick a fight with this team
Chargers won, so well done to them. But - Raiders should have won this game. Giving away three turnovers, poor O line play and lack of Minshew pre-season practice with the one's, affected the Raiders. I think the Chargers team were helped by this.
@paulcooper7715 I know how you feel. The Chargers lost moat of their games last year by a field goal or less. If the ball had bounced right for them one more time in each of those games they are playoff contenders, Staley gets an extension, Kennan Williams Ek are still here. But that's the NFL. Put up or shut up. BTW, Bosa peanut punched that ball out for a fumble so that wasn't sloppy play, by the offense, that was excellent play by the defense. And Minshew did throw that awful lateral pass that the Bolts benefited from. Crosby did get stonewalled by a rookie OT and the Chargers won an ugly close game for once. And so long as Harbaugh is in town I expect that to be the norm. Good coaching matters
PFF is turning a new leaf & not only being positive about Indianapolis even in a loss, but also giving *more than 30 seconds of airtime*. Good on you Trevor.
2:03:49 Jayden missed him wide open for what would’ve been a 65+ yard TD and wide open across the field a couple times. Kingsbury kept him on an island with zero motion to help and they didn’t even design any plays for him specifically until the 2nd half. What is he supposed to do when they’re not even trying to look for him and when they do, the QB misses?
I'm a fan of your podcast and always listen to it, but now allow me to make a major criticism. The comment about the pitch in Brazil being "horrible" is false and ignorant. The pitch is not horrible; on the contrary, it is wonderful and one of the best in the world. The fact is that in São Paulo, there's a lot of dew, and since the game was at night, the pitch was wet-NATURAL CONDITIONS, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PITCH ITSELF. The stadium management informed the players about this and recommended a specific type of cleat; some chose to stick with their usual ones and slipped, but during halftime, everyone switched. What bothers me is that because it's a Latin American country, you automatically say the pitch is horrible without even researching. In 2018, the NFL played in the mud at Wembley, and I don't recall hearing you complain about it. We had a fantastic event and it was by far the best game of the round. Show a bit of respect to those who love this sport even from afar.
When did they say that? Please show me. I listen to this podcast almost every week, and I've never heard them complain about the pitch at games in Wembley or Munich. If there’s a link to them on the podcast making strong criticisms like 'this pitch is completely awful' (even with a tone of contempt), send it to me! Until then, I’ll indeed suspect xenophobia, because I've seen a lot of it this week, unfortunately.
In fact, it will be quite funny the day you find out that soccer pitches are much better, more expensive, and better maintained than American football fields. One day, you’ll look beyond your borders and understand this.
Trevor is very much someone I can see being a similar mold to Steve. Obviously a younger version but very optimistic. I need some more hate out of Dalton in order to match Sam's energy.
I'm no hater on PFF, but this week's QB rating seem odd at best. Stafford was brilliant given his circumstances. Dak was much better than Watson--not WORSE. Overall too many QB grades in the 40's, 50's.
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Lmaoo giving CJ 67 and then giving AR 76 after having an interception and and going 9/19 is absurd. Are these fantasy grades cause I must be missing something
Thornhill gets that high a grade when Cooks ran past him and literally could have fair caught the TD pass? Don’t get it. Also….where is Kendrick and Demarcus Lawrence?
Falcons O Line is the most overrated in all football. You guys don't watch enough Falcons games, i saw these issues coming up. Since the Matt Ryan days guys have been struggling and there won't that many deep changes since then. Dark times are ahead again: our OC looks incapable, and Pitts is a bust at this point (almost safe to say). The team looked unprepared... we got outcoached and we were full of ourselves...
and Stafford a 51 despite fact he single handily carried his team and even these two said he was fantastic in this game. PFF qb grades never fail to disappoint
Jordan love missed a lot of throws and also had some dropped ints. I get it, it's week 1 and he's rusty, but that's probably why he graded the way he did.
@@tonyb460 I mean the opposite way. Watching the all 22 love and hurts had very similar games. Hurts was more accurate but had one more interception worthy decision than love. To grade them so far apart is a disservice to pff integrity. I have a feeling a lot of love’s misses were graded as negatives by the wideouts because of preseason opinion they love is very good.
@@II-wu7mxThey graded Daniel Jones around the same area as Dak. I have agreed with grades in the past, but this week completely lost me. Edit: I didn't even clock they graded Watson higher than Dak, no idea what they were watching.
@1:07:00 Travon walker had 2 sacks what the hell are yall on about? What more does he need to show he was dominating. Y'all stay hating on Walker i swear.
Sacks aren't the best indicator of pressure though, it's more about how often you can put pressure on the QB and affect the play. They are saying he shows flashes of brilliance, it just needs to come more consistently now.
@@Darsam88 sacks are still sacks. Let me ask you this. If he gets 15 sacks this year and gets some in big moments like he did last year but he dosent get a high pressure rate. Vs he gets let's say 5 sacks but hets a high pressure rate does that mean the high pressure rate was better? No. In fact people would be complaining that's he's not productive. Pff stay moving the goal post with this guy. They acted like he did nothing against the dolphins which makes no sense.
@@jamesazrael25 if he had 15 sacks but very little pressure outside of that then it's still a solid year, but it's not a great year. If he only gets 5 sacks but he's consistently getting pressure then it's still a good season. The only people who wouldn't think so is box score watchers
@@TheShepdawg9 Baker had 6 incomplete passes. Six, while throwing thirty passes. Only one was "turnover worthy", whatever that means. One was dropped, that would have been a TD and a throwaway. what are we talking about? TDs were tight window throws and he throws 4 touchdowns, no INTs. Had 4 or 5 straight scoring drives. That ain't "box scores". Trevor Lawrence had same score as Josh Allen? How? Plus threw for almost 300 yards.
@@jamesbrigham1299 Not being a smart ass but it seems like yall don't realize an 82.4 passing grade is very high so keep that in mind if you have an issue with that grade when it should actually be taken as proof of him having a good game.
@@chrisssss4116 It might well be, but if you contrast and compare out QB numbers that are only a few points lower that didn't have better statistics, it brings the evaluation process into question. We can also "see" the impact of QB play.
Ummmm is 47.4 Caleb Williams' grade or his completion percentage. The idea he grades there and Hurts who actually made plays and scored multiple TDs graded at 29.9 means that your grading system is hot garbage. What a joke.
it's negative and turn over worthy plays that hit the grades a ton. Missing a throw or play is not as bad as throwing a turn over worthy throw or making a bad play. Another thing that you aren't taking into consideration is the talent level around the QBs, Hurts has a much better group of players around him than Caleb Williams and it's not even close.
This throwing out of numbers doesn't make it true. That Texans Dline kept JT in check all game long. Less than perfect? Sure. Bottom of the barrel? Get out of here 😆
The Panthers need to trade for Kirk Cousins and start it all over (I would take Bryce Young for Cousins 1 for 1 I mean Cousins is so overpaid nobody is giving anything of value for him, ATL should be OVERJOYED to get a #1 overall pick one year removed).
They just drafted a QB… the only trade asset they had just got badly injured in Derrick Brown, maybe moving him made sense but no contender will trade for him now.
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Baker back to the playoffs and no happy ending for Watson!! Got love it!!
Harbaugh told everyone....we're gonna run the ball, we're gonna play great defense, take the pressure off of Herbert, and we're gonna play solid football. That was the most Harbaugh game ever. They kept Crosby, Adams, Bowers, and Mayer in check. And yeah, CNTR/ALT/DELETE....awesome to see. In prior years, the Bolts dig deep and find a way to lose that game. At no point in the 2nd half was I at all concerned the Chargers would blow it. Buckle up NFL, it's gonna be a fun season
Its definitely Harbaugh football. But the lack of depth on passing game is going to be exposed with good teams. You can’t just run the ball with someone like Herbert and itchy fingers to throw down the field.
And what happens when KC goes up by 2 scores early and they have to abandon the run? That being said, I actually like the Chargers and have since the Natron Means and Tolbert days. Love a smash mouth back
@@sriramkaushal226 It'll definitely be a conversation right? The Raiders were flying high because they went into KC last year and beat them. Yeah, they have Adams, but still, they did it with smashmouth football. Not sure what Harbaugh has in store for them but the defense looked great and even though the Chiefs have Karloftis and Jones, the Chargers took care of business in the trenches against the Raiders D and that is very promising. Who knows? Maybe the Chargers have more time to throw when they meet the Chiefs and McKonkey looks like the second coming of Keenan. I'm just stoked that Harbaugh called his shot and it worked. So tired of watching the Bolts getting outmuscled. I was laughing when they started a fight in the 4th quarter....like, yeah, I wouldn't pick a fight with this team
Chargers won, so well done to them. But - Raiders should have won this game. Giving away three turnovers, poor O line play and lack of Minshew pre-season practice with the one's, affected the Raiders. I think the Chargers team were helped by this.
@paulcooper7715 I know how you feel. The Chargers lost moat of their games last year by a field goal or less. If the ball had bounced right for them one more time in each of those games they are playoff contenders, Staley gets an extension, Kennan Williams Ek are still here.
But that's the NFL. Put up or shut up. BTW, Bosa peanut punched that ball out for a fumble so that wasn't sloppy play, by the offense, that was excellent play by the defense. And Minshew did throw that awful lateral pass that the Bolts benefited from. Crosby did get stonewalled by a rookie OT and the Chargers won an ugly close game for once. And so long as Harbaugh is in town I expect that to be the norm. Good coaching matters
PFF is turning a new leaf & not only being positive about Indianapolis even in a loss, but also giving *more than 30 seconds of airtime*. Good on you Trevor.
2:03:49 Jayden missed him wide open for what would’ve been a 65+ yard TD and wide open across the field a couple times. Kingsbury kept him on an island with zero motion to help and they didn’t even design any plays for him specifically until the 2nd half. What is he supposed to do when they’re not even trying to look for him and when they do, the QB misses?
I'm a fan of your podcast and always listen to it, but now allow me to make a major criticism. The comment about the pitch in Brazil being "horrible" is false and ignorant. The pitch is not horrible; on the contrary, it is wonderful and one of the best in the world.
The fact is that in São Paulo, there's a lot of dew, and since the game was at night, the pitch was wet-NATURAL CONDITIONS, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PITCH ITSELF. The stadium management informed the players about this and recommended a specific type of cleat; some chose to stick with their usual ones and slipped, but during halftime, everyone switched.
What bothers me is that because it's a Latin American country, you automatically say the pitch is horrible without even researching. In 2018, the NFL played in the mud at Wembley, and I don't recall hearing you complain about it. We had a fantastic event and it was by far the best game of the round. Show a bit of respect to those who love this sport even from afar.
All soccer and multi use fields, including those abroad, have been HEAVILY criticized from the start. Nobody is singling out South America dude.
When did they say that? Please show me. I listen to this podcast almost every week, and I've never heard them complain about the pitch at games in Wembley or Munich. If there’s a link to them on the podcast making strong criticisms like 'this pitch is completely awful' (even with a tone of contempt), send it to me! Until then, I’ll indeed suspect xenophobia, because I've seen a lot of it this week, unfortunately.
In fact, it will be quite funny the day you find out that soccer pitches are much better, more expensive, and better maintained than American football fields. One day, you’ll look beyond your borders and understand this.
Brad Holmes. 3 years of drafting...solid lineup.
Chiefs-Ravens was 27-20. What's with that overlay graphic at 24-20 lol
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Trevor is very much someone I can see being a similar mold to Steve. Obviously a younger version but very optimistic. I need some more hate out of Dalton in order to match Sam's energy.
I'm no hater on PFF, but this week's QB rating seem odd at best. Stafford was brilliant given his circumstances. Dak was much better than Watson--not WORSE. Overall too many QB grades in the 40's, 50's.
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So does the 3rd turnover worthy play count against stroud? Or does the penalty affect it?
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These guys are so much better than the negative Nancy's from last year!
Dang...you're so hard on the Eagles. My goodness...
Lmaoo giving CJ 67 and then giving AR 76 after having an interception and and going 9/19 is absurd. Are these fantasy grades cause I must be missing something
They told you goofy… Stroud had several turnover-worthy plays & their grades take this into account.
@@gotoastal every AR pass was turnover worthy and they are referring to dead plays
I love all the so called "experts" had the Saints finishing last in the NFC South
Which publication chose the Saints to finish above the panthers this year? Genuinely asking
Don't understand you qb ratings Justin fields and kyler Murray had higher rankings than josh allen???
Joe Milton could make that pass... but it's a 1: 100 shot in the first place given Milton's accuracy problems lol.
Leaving out Saquon in the Eagles Convo is weird..
How can Dak’s grade be lower than Watson. Dak had no interceptions while Watson had 2? Make it make sense
These guys are 1000 times better than the last hosts. Sorry bout it! The last guys made me want to fall asleep. 0 energy
You are day drinking and drunk already.
Nope but its still a good episode
They are Okay. I just hope they aren't biased Cincinnati bengals fans like the last two.
Can't wait til Right Guy goes bald and Left Guy grows long curly black hair.
@@Chiefs555the last guys were not bengals fan lol wth. Oh your a chiefs fan, makes sense
Thornhill gets that high a grade when Cooks ran past him and literally could have fair caught the TD pass? Don’t get it. Also….where is Kendrick and Demarcus Lawrence?
Soooo, you don't review MNF?
Wait i thought Alt had a 76 rating?
Your grading system is flawed, Parsons and Lawrence weren't on the list of higher graded defensive players
Falcons O Line is the most overrated in all football. You guys don't watch enough Falcons games, i saw these issues coming up. Since the Matt Ryan days guys have been struggling and there won't that many deep changes since then. Dark times are ahead again: our OC looks incapable, and Pitts is a bust at this point (almost safe to say). The team looked unprepared... we got outcoached and we were full of ourselves...
0 play action plays? Yeah that's not how you win with Kirk Cousins, busted achilles or not. Guy has been a play action master since college.
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Giving Jordan love a 64.6 is insane. Seems like a lot of working backwards from a conclusion in that grading.
and Stafford a 51 despite fact he single handily carried his team and even these two said he was fantastic in this game. PFF qb grades never fail to disappoint
Jordan love missed a lot of throws and also had some dropped ints. I get it, it's week 1 and he's rusty, but that's probably why he graded the way he did.
@@tonyb460 I mean the opposite way. Watching the all 22 love and hurts had very similar games. Hurts was more accurate but had one more interception worthy decision than love. To grade them so far apart is a disservice to pff integrity. I have a feeling a lot of love’s misses were graded as negatives by the wideouts because of preseason opinion they love is very good.
@@II-wu7mxThey graded Daniel Jones around the same area as Dak. I have agreed with grades in the past, but this week completely lost me.
Edit: I didn't even clock they graded Watson higher than Dak, no idea what they were watching.
64.6 is actually not a bad grade.
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@1:07:00 Travon walker had 2 sacks what the hell are yall on about? What more does he need to show he was dominating. Y'all stay hating on Walker i swear.
Sacks aren't the best indicator of pressure though, it's more about how often you can put pressure on the QB and affect the play. They are saying he shows flashes of brilliance, it just needs to come more consistently now.
Sacks do not mean much by themselves. Someone else could force the QB into you while you’re losing your rep. Walker has never been dominant
@@Darsam88 sacks are still sacks. Let me ask you this. If he gets 15 sacks this year and gets some in big moments like he did last year but he dosent get a high pressure rate. Vs he gets let's say 5 sacks but hets a high pressure rate does that mean the high pressure rate was better? No. In fact people would be complaining that's he's not productive. Pff stay moving the goal post with this guy. They acted like he did nothing against the dolphins which makes no sense.
@@Rekcha watch him against the dolphins at least one of his sacks was pressure and the other tua ran into it.
@@jamesazrael25 if he had 15 sacks but very little pressure outside of that then it's still a solid year, but it's not a great year. If he only gets 5 sacks but he's consistently getting pressure then it's still a good season. The only people who wouldn't think so is box score watchers
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Baker with an 82.0 grade?? No wonder so many players criticize PFF grading 😂
Why are you watching a show like this if you only like box scores?
@@TheShepdawg9 Baker had 6 incomplete passes. Six, while throwing thirty passes. Only one was "turnover worthy", whatever that means. One was dropped, that would have been a TD and a throwaway. what are we talking about? TDs were tight window throws and he throws 4 touchdowns, no INTs. Had 4 or 5 straight scoring drives. That ain't "box scores". Trevor Lawrence had same score as Josh Allen? How? Plus threw for almost 300 yards.
@@jamesbrigham1299 Not being a smart ass but it seems like yall don't realize an 82.4 passing grade is very high so keep that in mind if you have an issue with that grade when it should actually be taken as proof of him having a good game.
@@chrisssss4116 It might well be, but if you contrast and compare out QB numbers that are only a few points lower that didn't have better statistics, it brings the evaluation process into question. We can also "see" the impact of QB play.
Ummmm is 47.4 Caleb Williams' grade or his completion percentage.
The idea he grades there and Hurts who actually made plays and scored multiple TDs graded at 29.9 means that your grading system is hot garbage. What a joke.
Maybe it has something to do with the 3 turnovers from Hurts plus a 2nd fumble they recovered vs 0 turnovers for Caleb.
it's negative and turn over worthy plays that hit the grades a ton. Missing a throw or play is not as bad as throwing a turn over worthy throw or making a bad play. Another thing that you aren't taking into consideration is the talent level around the QBs, Hurts has a much better group of players around him than Caleb Williams and it's not even close.
“I don’t agree with the scores therefore they must be bad”
I remeber when they gave Patrick a midling grade after a 5td 400 yard game. Buncha desk nerds
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This throwing out of numbers doesn't make it true. That Texans Dline kept JT in check all game long. Less than perfect? Sure. Bottom of the barrel? Get out of here 😆
How do you know PFF grades are meaningless, Deshaun Watson graded higher than Dak
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Hard to take these guys seriously after they openly screwed up DPOY last year. Anybody with eyes knew TJ should have won that award.
The Panthers need to trade for Kirk Cousins and start it all over (I would take Bryce Young for Cousins 1 for 1 I mean Cousins is so overpaid nobody is giving anything of value for him, ATL should be OVERJOYED to get a #1 overall pick one year removed).
They just drafted a QB… the only trade asset they had just got badly injured in Derrick Brown, maybe moving him made sense but no contender will trade for him now.
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