@@wmetz1869 So what lol? AAA games aren't meant to be competitive lmao, ofcourse visuals there are a priority... Do you see cod or rdr2 running at 240fps or above? Exactly🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@InfernalPanther666new train now plays more like mirrage or dust. Where you only have 1 main Way to get to the site. But train you could go upper to go B but changed mind and went popdogg. Or you went Long through ct to go B but the apper got a Pick a through old bombtrain and you went A. All thes things you cant do on the new train. So yes it alot more simpler, might be good if only wanted train in mirrage version. But I wanted different playstyle like awp A main to Z. And the fact that rotation was fast for both CT and T, made Train and very fun map. But that map is now gone.
Honestly I like every change EXCEPT the removal of the 3rd train on A site. They removed a lot of the bs that made OG train annoying, such as the pop dog choke point, the weird heaven position and the overall jankiness of B site. However, The maneuverability and confusion created by the third train on A site is what made Train such a classic map
Yeah. I'm the kinda guy that plays those 2 classic maps only. But as for the other ones, Train stood out to me because of.. well.. the trains. B site CS2 still looks good But A site feels it's much less of a dramatic movie like gunfight because there's less train
why new generation loves 2 awful man of humanity like h1tl3r and lenin, They just awful dictators killed millions of people, Stop admiring with such people. You are probably anime kid and you thinking thats cool, But actually not. That stupid country that illegally created in 1918 just collapsed within 100 years
Who cares if it's pretty if it doesn't improve play. I'm not a fan of the (over)simplification, personally. It feels like what they did with Cobble, which eventually killed the map... Bring back the complexity!
There's actually quite a few of them around the map, you can't normally see it, but there's one of them in the new room in B(?), and there's one in the wall of a room near banana
Train was always about ladders, hiding spots and long AWP angles, CS2 changes that - is it good? For competitive CS probably "yes". Even removing heaven (which was there in some place or the other in every version of this map so far) is probably beneficial for how game will be played on competitive level, because having that hard-to-get-hard-to-clear angle was always a bit awkward. And you gotta appreciate that Valve has got us another surfing spot on official map.
I don't think nerfing the difficulty in clearing angles is good for competitive play. heaven angle that was easy for people to hide in, was just one corner area, otherwise they would be spotted. I guess, better remove the entire section because some people hid there. Dumpster being removed I get......but this....this oversimplifies the map
@@briondalion well, maybe, I always enjoyed that train was a bit different map, but I don't think it was entertaining to watch on high level - sometimes it was just pure guessing game.
@proosee ye actually watching flusha singlehandedly win fnatic the game vs faze in game 3 in grand finals while they were 15-13 down or whatever, dropping 9 kills on 2 rounds is soo unfun to watch.
Unsure how I feel about the popdog change but I do love that on the radar it’s called long dog and there is a very long borzoi that stretches most of the hallway
yeah, popdog was too much of a chokehold, but it was also cool to see new inventions to take control of it, but it seems that everything was figured out of it. Im not sad to see it go
I hate that they removed it... sure for silvers and matchmaking it was hell when you tried to control it or retake it, but on pro level this removes such an interesting piece of a map... I am sure pros hated it too, but they just had to deal with it being there so we got those T molly line ups through upper window and bounce off the wall to clear the whole pop dog... It was just so unique.
Its quite intriguing what made Valve think it went from a Touchstone map to a Overhauled map. I love it tho. A grand way to bring back something familiar with something fresh about it.
I wished that with CS2 release, every map would be overhauled. Especially Mirage- every other map changed but if you download CSGO 2014 its still the same looking map.
nothing about this map is familiar. every single part of the map plays completely fucking differently. it looks somewhat the same but the core gameplay of train is night and day
It's subtle, but one of my favorite parts about this remake is how colorful the minimap is. It makes it way easier to make and understand callouts, especially for new players who aren't familiar with old Train.
Does it though? The main feature of 1.6 train was many hiding spots (e.g. under the trains) and long angles for AWPers - in those two terms it makes 1.6 and CS:GO versions more similar.
what I most wanted them to bring since the launch of CS2 was a night and rainy map, and they brought that in the best map in the history of CS thank you valve
I found a nice little easter egg, when you go to B long, the passage way which is blocked now with a little control cabin/room etc, if you noclip inside it, you can see a picture of the old train in CS 1.6 and a small TV, which displays different areas of the map from 1.6. Pretty cool easter egg tbh.
Train always was a cluttered/complex map for the eyes and it still is, but they still did a great job. I like that big ramp isn't as open anymore and pop dog always was the major issue of the map and they had a great idea how to fix it. Only negative thing is that the map is kinda dark, haven't played a match yet but I expect that sometimes enemies are harder to spot.
Whatever you see right now is most definitely going to be added into hl3 later. They've hired so many developers and hopefully they work on cs2 some more
Idk about that ivy-olof changes man, I think it just narrows down the game flow, used to be high-risk/reward play to dance around in there for both teams.
First time playing it felt awesome, there is still some brain memory, even tho its been so long and its CS2 now. I do feel like its bigger, more open, expecialy B site. Mid is quite open too , but i do like how it plays, lots of gunfights are long range, and you have lots of options to play on both sides, hopefully it gets into premier soon.
On the dumpster by where the pigeons were, there's a graffiti that says "Respect the pigeons", and there's a couple of TVs/Monitors around the map (I know at least 2) that show 1.6 train and there's also a picture of 1.6 train on the board in showers.
I'll be honest, there are some changes they made that I don't understand, but the vast majority of the changed i think are genius. The way ivy and the CT tunnel on that side is redesigned is REALLY well done
train was the perfect map. no matter what kind of player you were, you had a way of approaching fights in a way thst most fits you, you could play at your terms and if you were ahle to play really well in many different ways, you could solo hard stomp games without a problem.
@NEUNELFER911 pros wouldn't agree with you, and neither would the hardcore playerbase. you have plenty of interviews with pros, asking them what they want to get reintroduced into the pro pool or what is their favorite map or what map they arenmissing or they were asked to rank all the maps, nd train is always amongst the top maps.
@@zezanje1 not you saying "no matter what kind of a player you are" and then saying that only pros and hardcore playerbase won't agree with me. The playerbase is mostly not that, train was always avoided, I'm playing since 2014 and that's how I always was feeling. Don't get me wrong, I love this map pretty much, it's very unique, but it's too complicated, if they wouldn't change it, then it would once again be heavily avoided in the competition map pool for 90% of playerbase. That's once again a try to make it more similar to other maps. Yes, I agree that I was exaggerating when I said nobody likes it.
I’ll be honest A site leaves much to be desired. It feels like a half painted canvas. They removed like 60% of the trains, barricades and ladders and left it with empty space. I’m sure this is by design, and its minimalist look on the new source engine looks great but I’m not convinced it will play well long term. Feels like they made an aim map. Wingman will feel like one of those AWPer 1v1 community maps on A site.
Valve cooked with this one. I like the old school theme. I remember hating this map when i just started playing because of too many angles to get killed from , only after playing on retake servers i got used to it. It looks more balanced now. Let's see how it plays out.
ii hhaaatte this mapp bc im too shit at the fucking game plsss make it noob friendly kill it completely for the sake of casuals mann plsssssss valve i need to be able to play train in gold 2 :DDDDDDD
@basedchad6035 just played 4 games of train rn, and im pretty certain that i am gonma be selling my steam acc in the near future. the map is way too 1 dimensional, and filled witb random rat angles. for example you dan see connector from the ivy tunnel, when you exit ivy, you are seen from everywhere from ct spawn, the entire a site, con and a main. b is just filled with rat angles, the new popdog is horseshit and again forces you to pick and choose between what you check when entering, making the game way more of a coinflip and noob friendly which is clearly what valve want.
In the B halls, below the opened wall where you throw stuff at the bombsite, there is an office with a monitor showing like CCTV cameras feed, but it's the CSS version of Train (or early CSGO i can't quite remember), and on the whiteboard there, it says Aperture Labs as a reference to Portal ;)
I dont know how i feel about the overall "art direction" or style of the game. Everything lacks so much contrast when seeing dorect comparisons with go
CS:GO has very low-quality textures, so they have to make the game's graphics sharp and blackish. In my opinion, CS:GO graphics are like a low-quality bodycam video, and CS2 graphics are like a 4K cinematic film.
Agreed. I think devs simply don't do it because of Agent skins. There's no black, everything is grey & blurry so the agents pop out. I like the look of new Cache but we may have people complain on it too
finally night mode and weather changes on cs 2 i love it imagine if there was a night mode on other maps like mirage or dust 2 aswell i think they should work on that
Go inside the building on B with two unopenable doors. There's a TV showing footage of the old train. There's another TV with the same footage on a different part of the map as well.
Not gonna lie, train has always been my favorite map for flexibility it offered to go behind the trains, hide and catch the enemies off guard. But now…
Theres a portal easter egg in one of the side rooms in banana. It references statistics for Aperture science vs V-Corp (probably related to the in universe "V shipping" in cs)
the graphic desing its insanely good but missing a lot of spots like half of the map, still waiting for the second half release T-T (no heaven, no ivy cross from main, no blue train, NO POPDOG, NO OLOF, feels like a cellphone map lol)
I've been playing CS for over 10 years and have only played Train a handful of times because of, well, all those trains lol. Just too many parallel paths and verticality for me. Didn't think this remake would get me excited to play Train but this looks good!
honestly wasn't expecting such a big change, and i do like it for the most part but it does feel like some of the charm of old train has been sacrificed for the sake of more competitive viability. but hey if it means vertigo or dust 2 are back on the chopping block then i can't complain too much
@@kalzy2687 disagree about pop dog. Now it's become dust2's lower tunnels, and noobs will be rushing them every round while climbing ladder was much more risky.
it's beautiful, I'm not sure about removing the train in the middle of A as it felt quite important before, but i also only played that map 100 times or so, so I'm not that familiar
That visual effect with the rain drops is simply gorgeous! They butchered the map, but the visuals are great and from the 3 games played so far it plays really well. Waaaay too soon to say if the new layout balances the map enough. In A main there’s a cheeky window gap from where you can smoke pop dog or site or electric and also flash either the site side or bounce it on red train to flash left of red train side.
Train was an iconic map in CSGO. Sure it had problems but pop dog and A site wasn’t one. It was extremely fun playing on A site but B sure was a little fucked. I’ll miss the A site from CSGO including Pop dog.
feel like removing the ladders at pop dog takes some insane creative plays away... I don't like how cramped green train is. also how u removing popdog from the game??? this was an iconic name only cs players know
as a map new train looks cool, they removed A LOT of ladders that were used to make plays and IMO completely ruined the tactical aspect of train. so basically ruined the map for me...
RIP the PopDog ladder :( that shit was so fun in Faceit where you could abuse the fact that they didn't have friendly fire to throw a Molotov down it and have a teammate get in for free without any consequences
Interesting to see less long range angles. Train was often a map where CT buy 2 or more AWPs and really dominate the long angles. Now you have less angels to play from because of the blocked sight and less objects. Will be interesting how the map plays out. I already can see Cts pushing pop dog every round because you have a massive timing advantage now.
I'm still mad they're not gonna bring back Danger Zone back to the game, but now I can kinda see why. The amount of effort it would take them to make it work is probably immense.
You get it. It's always easier to make backhanded angry comments online than actually making a map, playtesting it for hours, patching bugs, etc. to then push out to a game for millions of people to play and then shit on.
yes if only there was a way for them not to have to put in all this effort into the game? oh yes maybe they didn't have to fucking ikll csgo for no reason whatsoever. right now cs2 is not even 30% of what csgo was in terms of gameplay and overall how many things you can do inside the fucking game, and its been over a fucking year since the release of this disgusting game. how is this game's community so complacent?
Well, danger zone was released becuase battle royale were the thing back then (even though it was supoosed to be a "survival island" gamemode or something) and most importantly ppl barely played it so it feels pointless to release the gamemode in the current state Even though I highly doubt they wont release the gamemode in a far future
Very exciting actually, just looking at the video this maps me excited. I really like the way B site was handled, heaven sucked to push and yellow train in the middle added a bit of clutter. A site is debatable and I would have to play it for some hours to really feel that one out. Old train will be missed but new train looks like it will be welcomed.
The rain effect on weapons, gloves and the agent models was so cool to witness for the first time.
I like the part when I and the enemies in front of me teleported due to server/jitter/fps and the rain aswell
Yeah let’s go valve they spend one year making shit rain physics instead of fixing the game
Other AAA games doing this kind of effects for years lol.
@@cliffson5860 stop yapping kiddo, if u dont like it go play valorant
@@wmetz1869 So what lol? AAA games aren't meant to be competitive lmao, ofcourse visuals there are a priority... Do you see cod or rdr2 running at 240fps or above? Exactly🤦♂️🤦♂️
Train loses more trains every remake...
Shrinkflation
vertigo
-fixed a gap in geometry
train
-removed a ton of geometry completely.
Can't wait for the next version, de_openfield
Till de_train becomes THE train
the trains in this one are very accurate for the area though which is neat
I was kinda mad about the lack of trains to jump between on A but making the red train surfable makes up for it
Old train was a good map for high IQ players and clutch city. A site was brutal (in a good way)
old train was looks like shit and now looks lke should be...IQ have nothing to play some pc game.. lot of good players are idiotsin life
@@InfernalPanther666new train now plays more like mirrage or dust. Where you only have 1 main Way to get to the site. But train you could go upper to go B but changed mind and went popdogg. Or you went Long through ct to go B but the apper got a Pick a through old bombtrain and you went A. All thes things you cant do on the new train. So yes it alot more simpler, might be good if only wanted train in mirrage version. But I wanted different playstyle like awp A main to Z. And the fact that rotation was fast for both CT and T, made Train and very fun map. But that map is now gone.
@@heavyflamerheresy2581 train looks way better now and for me map which looks like old game sht is not playable
Honestly I like every change EXCEPT the removal of the 3rd train on A site. They removed a lot of the bs that made OG train annoying, such as the pop dog choke point, the weird heaven position and the overall jankiness of B site. However, The maneuverability and confusion created by the third train on A site is what made Train such a classic map
Yeah. I'm the kinda guy that plays those 2 classic maps only. But as for the other ones, Train stood out to me because of.. well.. the trains. B site CS2 still looks good
But A site feels it's much less of a dramatic movie like gunfight because there's less train
i miss pop dog ladder, it was very interesting and unique mechanic
I think they partially removed it because smokes in CS2 are way bigger and they wanted to avoid what happened to Inferno
Exactly what I was thinking
Give it a chance. There's some interesting gameplay elements, it might play very similarly.
Train back then : lets hide
Train now : where the f do i hide ?
This simplification of maps doesn't make the game better honestly
Not gonna lie playing outer with a rifle against awps kind of sucked
@Felale it rewarded good aim, fast mouvement and mind games, now it's just get out and kill 😢
Train now looks like i play mordern game not some crap
@@bsky6525 what simplification? this map have lot of details now and not look likesome old game shit
WHERE IS MY LENIN IN TSPAWN
BACK TO THE MAUSOLEUM
The only thing that I'll miss from the original. the bigass lenin art was great
@@Alucard666QC "Original"
Socialist cuck
why new generation loves 2 awful man of humanity like h1tl3r and lenin, They just awful dictators killed millions of people, Stop admiring with such people. You are probably anime kid and you thinking thats cool, But actually not. That stupid country that illegally created in 1918 just collapsed within 100 years
This kid pushes from ivy, out middle, through our connector like a SPEED DEMON!
HES DOING IT SIDEWAYS
@@spitfirex2599ADMIN LIES
@@qHadrian well that will not happen on this version of train
I will miss CSGO train but this does look beautiful
Yeah. B site is better but a was better in go
@@juriaan5786 Yeah I agree, some parts are good like that ladder just was a shitty obstacle to fight on but no more heaven, that was my favorite part.
Rip fps tho
Who cares if it's pretty if it doesn't improve play. I'm not a fan of the (over)simplification, personally. It feels like what they did with Cobble, which eventually killed the map... Bring back the complexity!
@@Alix777.Mfs when game has modern graphics
In showers. There's a small tv with the old old version of train on it. You actually pass by it at the 6:00 mark
There's actually quite a few of them around the map, you can't normally see it, but there's one of them in the new room in B(?), and there's one in the wall of a room near banana
It's like they're teasing us with the real version of the map
Train was always about ladders, hiding spots and long AWP angles, CS2 changes that - is it good? For competitive CS probably "yes". Even removing heaven (which was there in some place or the other in every version of this map so far) is probably beneficial for how game will be played on competitive level, because having that hard-to-get-hard-to-clear angle was always a bit awkward. And you gotta appreciate that Valve has got us another surfing spot on official map.
I don't think nerfing the difficulty in clearing angles is good for competitive play. heaven angle that was easy for people to hide in, was just one corner area, otherwise they would be spotted. I guess, better remove the entire section because some people hid there. Dumpster being removed I get......but this....this oversimplifies the map
@@briondalion well, maybe, I always enjoyed that train was a bit different map, but I don't think it was entertaining to watch on high level - sometimes it was just pure guessing game.
@proosee ye actually watching flusha singlehandedly win fnatic the game vs faze in game 3 in grand finals while they were 15-13 down or whatever, dropping 9 kills on 2 rounds is soo unfun to watch.
all they did was dumb down the entire map, rip train
@@proosee you mean a game of wits and gamesense? almost as if this game is exactly about that, besides shooting ofc.
Unsure how I feel about the popdog change but I do love that on the radar it’s called long dog and there is a very long borzoi that stretches most of the hallway
Pop dog didn’t do anything good for the map tho
best thing that could happen to popdog. it was outdated
yeah, popdog was too much of a chokehold, but it was also cool to see new inventions to take control of it, but it seems that everything was figured out of it. Im not sad to see it go
I hate that they removed it... sure for silvers and matchmaking it was hell when you tried to control it or retake it, but on pro level this removes such an interesting piece of a map... I am sure pros hated it too, but they just had to deal with it being there so we got those T molly line ups through upper window and bounce off the wall to clear the whole pop dog... It was just so unique.
Its quite intriguing what made Valve think it went from a Touchstone map to a Overhauled map.
I love it tho. A grand way to bring back something familiar with something fresh about it.
I wished that with CS2 release, every map would be overhauled.
Especially Mirage- every other map changed but if you download CSGO 2014 its still the same looking map.
nothing about this map is familiar. every single part of the map plays completely fucking differently. it looks somewhat the same but the core gameplay of train is night and day
It's subtle, but one of my favorite parts about this remake is how colorful the minimap is. It makes it way easier to make and understand callouts, especially for new players who aren't familiar with old Train.
i love how this feels more like the 1.6 map than csgo
Does it though? The main feature of 1.6 train was many hiding spots (e.g. under the trains) and long angles for AWPers - in those two terms it makes 1.6 and CS:GO versions more similar.
@proosee It probably won't play out like 1.6 but it does give me a recall for sure
@@svenzerx8490 it also reminded me of 1.6 train, the way it was simpler
its not 1.6 its more cs source.
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it 1.6 and source were rather similar in terms of map design when you compare it to csgo's final iteration
Map feels 10x better and may be my new favorite map.
@@sigmamale2098 Why rude for no reason?
@@Gato-1998 he thinks he's a sigma
@@sigmamale2098 bros name is sigma male, and is not above 13k premier elo. Bro is also not a sigma but rather a beta lil boy 😔 (i have evidence)
the jitter and teleporting feel great! I'm actually happy they added it as a foundational aspect of the game, helped me to stop playing!
@@Frog-2001 Beta boy seems to have deleted his comment. Unfortunate for me, I would have wanted to laugh at him
what I most wanted them to bring since the launch of CS2 was a night and rainy map, and they brought that in the best map in the history of CS thank you valve
Haven't played CS since before covid, this map looks amazing, hope to see Valve bring Danger Zone back some day
I found a nice little easter egg, when you go to B long, the passage way which is blocked now with a little control cabin/room etc, if you noclip inside it, you can see a picture of the old train in CS 1.6 and a small TV, which displays different areas of the map from 1.6. Pretty cool easter egg tbh.
Glad to see they actually put genuine effort into this remake. If only they’d do the same to mirage. That map looks so outdated compared to the others
Leave my boy mirage
Mirage does not deserve any improvements, and should be removed completely
@ I’d be happy with that too. Anything over what we have now
mirage is perfect.
Mirage is perfectly balanced, don't touch it
Train always was a cluttered/complex map for the eyes and it still is, but they still did a great job. I like that big ramp isn't as open anymore and pop dog always was the major issue of the map and they had a great idea how to fix it. Only negative thing is that the map is kinda dark, haven't played a match yet but I expect that sometimes enemies are harder to spot.
I honestly think the wait was worth it! I love to see changes to familiar maps rather than just uplifting the visuals.
yes i can now finally start griefing every game im a part of without a care in the world, knowing that cs2 is too far gone!
near the entrance to ivy there is a dumpster with „respect the pigeons” graffiti on it which obviously pays tribute to the old glitch
I like all the changes, I think it could transform this map from being a niche to being an overall well balanced and highly competitive map
Whatever you see right now is most definitely going to be added into hl3 later. They've hired so many developers and hopefully they work on cs2 some more
Idk about that ivy-olof changes man, I think it just narrows down the game flow, used to be high-risk/reward play to dance around in there for both teams.
First time playing it felt awesome, there is still some brain memory, even tho its been so long and its CS2 now. I do feel like its bigger, more open, expecialy B site. Mid is quite open too , but i do like how it plays, lots of gunfights are long range, and you have lots of options to play on both sides, hopefully it gets into premier soon.
5:08 Valve calls those stairs longdog 💀
actually kinda funny lmao
On the dumpster by where the pigeons were, there's a graffiti that says "Respect the pigeons", and there's a couple of TVs/Monitors around the map (I know at least 2) that show 1.6 train and there's also a picture of 1.6 train on the board in showers.
Ok, finally Gaben is cooking just a little. Definitely need more after that cursed armoury.
I'll be honest, there are some changes they made that I don't understand, but the vast majority of the changed i think are genius. The way ivy and the CT tunnel on that side is redesigned is REALLY well done
I really like the tight compact feel of weaving in and out of the trains and ladders
4:37 "and we have this new cozy little area instead of that dumpstair area uuhhh 💅 💅 "
okay this was way better than i expected it to be lmao, im genuinely impressed
Train in CS1.6 was my fav map
I just wish they kept pop dog. I loved jumping down there.
train was the perfect map. no matter what kind of player you were, you had a way of approaching fights in a way thst most fits you, you could play at your terms and if you were ahle to play really well in many different ways, you could solo hard stomp games without a problem.
@@zezanje1nobody liked train. Obviously they needed to change it and try to make it more simple
@NEUNELFER911 pros wouldn't agree with you, and neither would the hardcore playerbase. you have plenty of interviews with pros, asking them what they want to get reintroduced into the pro pool or what is their favorite map or what map they arenmissing or they were asked to rank all the maps, nd train is always amongst the top maps.
@NEUNELFER911 it takes 10 min to find out whether nobody liked train or if it was your disgusting bias.
@@zezanje1 not you saying "no matter what kind of a player you are" and then saying that only pros and hardcore playerbase won't agree with me. The playerbase is mostly not that, train was always avoided, I'm playing since 2014 and that's how I always was feeling. Don't get me wrong, I love this map pretty much, it's very unique, but it's too complicated, if they wouldn't change it, then it would once again be heavily avoided in the competition map pool for 90% of playerbase. That's once again a try to make it more similar to other maps. Yes, I agree that I was exaggerating when I said nobody likes it.
There is a note in one of the office buildings that has a poem about baked beans.
I’ll be honest A site leaves much to be desired. It feels like a half painted canvas. They removed like 60% of the trains, barricades and ladders and left it with empty space. I’m sure this is by design, and its minimalist look on the new source engine looks great but I’m not convinced it will play well long term. Feels like they made an aim map.
Wingman will feel like one of those AWPer 1v1 community maps on A site.
Smoke become stronger hence why they removed so many obstacles.
Agree
train used to be my favourite map
they straight up killed it
Valve cooked with this one. I like the old school theme. I remember hating this map when i just started playing because of too many angles to get killed from , only after playing on retake servers i got used to it. It looks more balanced now. Let's see how it plays out.
ii hhaaatte this mapp bc im too shit at the fucking game plsss make it noob friendly kill it completely for the sake of casuals mann plsssssss valve i need to be able to play train in gold 2 :DDDDDDD
@@zezanje1haha true. It’s too easy now.
Atleast keep heaven and the 3rd train on a ffs
Valve bring back retake maps plz
@basedchad6035 just played 4 games of train rn, and im pretty certain that i am gonma be selling my steam acc in the near future.
the map is way too 1 dimensional, and filled witb random rat angles. for example you dan see connector from the ivy tunnel, when you exit ivy, you are seen from everywhere from ct spawn, the entire a site, con and a main. b is just filled with rat angles, the new popdog is horseshit and again forces you to pick and choose between what you check when entering, making the game way more of a coinflip and noob friendly which is clearly what valve want.
it's not balanced exactly, they only adjusted it to accommodate low IQ players.
In the B halls, below the opened wall where you throw stuff at the bombsite, there is an office with a monitor showing like CCTV cameras feed, but it's the CSS version of Train (or early CSGO i can't quite remember), and on the whiteboard there, it says Aperture Labs as a reference to Portal ;)
Fascinating how I can be excited and dissapointed at the same time. 😂
I'm usually a val player, but I might play some cs when this comes out. this map looks like a lot of fun
Looks great! Not sure about the openness though, I really liked the trains, it made the map play very different from the other maps.
I dont know how i feel about the overall "art direction" or style of the game.
Everything lacks so much contrast when seeing dorect comparisons with go
CS:GO has very low-quality textures, so they have to make the game's graphics sharp and blackish.
In my opinion, CS:GO graphics are like a low-quality bodycam video, and CS2 graphics are like a 4K cinematic film.
Easter eggs, screens around the map will show the old old train and there's a picture in ivy's security room of old train
There is not enough grit, everything looks pastel.
most people used programs like vibranceGUI to turn up the vibrance back in csgo
if you want to make look more depressing, turn down the saturation
I think the contrast is what gets you
Agreed. I think devs simply don't do it because of Agent skins. There's no black, everything is grey & blurry so the agents pop out.
I like the look of new Cache but we may have people complain on it too
ok this is actually looking really good, didnt expect the holy cook
finally night mode and weather changes on cs 2 i love it imagine if there was a night mode on other maps like mirage or dust 2 aswell i think they should work on that
Go inside the building on B with two unopenable doors. There's a TV showing footage of the old train. There's another TV with the same footage on a different part of the map as well.
imagine showing this to cs players almost 2 decades ago
Bro I was hyped to relearn some cool pop flashes for pop dog, guess that’s never going to happen again
Looks interessting. I havent played much Train in CSGO but I will definitly test it to see how it is.
The radio in locker room works like the football on dust2. u can kick it. There is also a tv in B-halls showing screenshots of the old map
Not gonna lie, train has always been my favorite map for flexibility it offered to go behind the trains, hide and catch the enemies off guard. But now…
I like that they removed the pop dog ladder. Feels way better to play it now
It's not train but it does have that 'cs2 vibe to it'. I love the rain as well
inside that new room on catwalk there is a tv playing footage from 1.6 or css
Theres a portal easter egg in one of the side rooms in banana. It references statistics for Aperture science vs V-Corp (probably related to the in universe "V shipping" in cs)
It looks better than the previous one, both visually and gameplay-wise.
For some reason it gives me "Hereford Base" vibes from Rainbow Six Siege... Really like the overall feeling of the map!
Calling to look at easter-eggs while you just passing through it (bathroom). 6:02
the graphic desing its insanely good but missing a lot of spots like half of the map, still waiting for the second half release T-T (no heaven, no ivy cross from main, no blue train, NO POPDOG, NO OLOF, feels like a cellphone map lol)
exactly what im saying. train is dead, this feels like a fucking valorant map with all the disgusting random angles.
I've been playing CS for over 10 years and have only played Train a handful of times because of, well, all those trains lol. Just too many parallel paths and verticality for me. Didn't think this remake would get me excited to play Train but this looks good!
My all time fav.. cs 1,6 and above. Had 8 kdr in 1,6 was number 1 in EU for s long time on this map!!!! Ugc gaming all the way.
Dope video ❤
honestly wasn't expecting such a big change, and i do like it for the most part but it does feel like some of the charm of old train has been sacrificed for the sake of more competitive viability. but hey if it means vertigo or dust 2 are back on the chopping block then i can't complain too much
I obsolutely loved new train, the vibe is so good
Some of the B halls area feels like a tribute to prodigy.
Pop dog and Heaven removed? Are you crazy???
Noobs are coping like hell rn, neither of those 2 spots did anything good for the map
@@kalzy2687 lowkey
@@kalzy2687 disagree about pop dog. Now it's become dust2's lower tunnels, and noobs will be rushing them every round while climbing ladder was much more risky.
You're 100% correct
@@kalzy2687it is not about if if did anything, but they were fun. The map got too serious imo.
Sad they removed a lot of the box cars, though seeing the old computers in the break room is cool.
Cant wait to see glitches where you can self boost on raindrops
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God forbid we get a map we asked for without it being completely different. Whats next? Concrete instead of Cobblestone?
next is a nuke update where they remove lower completely and put B somewhere at ramp.
+ removing A heaven
After a day of cs2 train I must say. Gimme back the old one...
TRAIN IS OUT!!! and it's rainy, yeaaaaaaaaaah baby this is going to be my favourite one.
it's beautiful, I'm not sure about removing the train in the middle of A as it felt quite important before, but i also only played that map 100 times or so, so I'm not that familiar
That visual effect with the rain drops is simply gorgeous! They butchered the map, but the visuals are great and from the 3 games played so far it plays really well. Waaaay too soon to say if the new layout balances the map enough. In A main there’s a cheeky window gap from where you can smoke pop dog or site or electric and also flash either the site side or bounce it on red train to flash left of red train side.
Train was an iconic map in CSGO. Sure it had problems but pop dog and A site wasn’t one. It was extremely fun playing on A site but B sure was a little fucked. I’ll miss the A site from CSGO including Pop dog.
pop dog was definitely a problem
@@swillcsyep. Anyone who denies is wrong
You do know pop dog is just a csgo thing right ? Back in 1.6 it was like it is now in cs2
@@miguel151420 no? it was always ladder.
@@joewheelar youre right, but it was way way bigger
Train should look like in cs 1.6 imo.. it was so fun outplaying people by using the trains..
kinda wish theyd test it raining everywhere. Weather could be a cool feature to see
i love how it looks abandoned
Falling down from heaven you no longer take damage unless you jump.
the outside parts look soo good!!
The train outside b short has to be called Thomas for now on. IT JUST HAS TO!!
thinking the same lmao
and the game should be called valorant 2 instead of cs2
feel like removing the ladders at pop dog takes some insane creative plays away... I don't like how cramped green train is. also how u removing popdog from the game??? this was an iconic name only cs players know
True. Nuke is nuke because of its verticality
@@bsky6525
But this is train
as a map new train looks cool, they removed A LOT of ladders that were used to make plays and IMO completely ruined the tactical aspect of train. so basically ruined the map for me...
i like the idea of the rain, and most importantly it doesnt affects my fps.
RIP the PopDog ladder :( that shit was so fun in Faceit where you could abuse the fact that they didn't have friendly fire to throw a Molotov down it and have a teammate get in for free without any consequences
Interesting to see less long range angles. Train was often a map where CT buy 2 or more AWPs and really dominate the long angles. Now you have less angels to play from because of the blocked sight and less objects. Will be interesting how the map plays out. I already can see Cts pushing pop dog every round because you have a massive timing advantage now.
5:10, The corridor is going to be horrible as you cannot hide at all if you're a T-site coming.
There is an easter egg. On TV you can see de_train from cs 1.6
They bring the map back and made it better wow good job
When Nostalgia tests Source 2
Going inside some of the rooms with noclip, you can see a monitor that has images of the cs1.6 version of train
Looks good tbh... and that rain make it more beatifullll
the rain looks so good on 10 fps
you walked by the Easter Egg of Train screen shots on the video monitor as your were talking about "let me know easter eggs" LOL. That timing??
I'm still mad they're not gonna bring back Danger Zone back to the game, but now I can kinda see why. The amount of effort it would take them to make it work is probably immense.
You get it. It's always easier to make backhanded angry comments online than actually making a map, playtesting it for hours, patching bugs, etc. to then push out to a game for millions of people to play and then shit on.
yes if only there was a way for them not to have to put in all this effort into the game? oh yes maybe they didn't have to fucking ikll csgo for no reason whatsoever. right now cs2 is not even 30% of what csgo was in terms of gameplay and overall how many things you can do inside the fucking game, and its been over a fucking year since the release of this disgusting game. how is this game's community so complacent?
Well, danger zone was released becuase battle royale were the thing back then (even though it was supoosed to be a "survival island" gamemode or something) and most importantly ppl barely played it so it feels pointless to release the gamemode in the current state
Even though I highly doubt they wont release the gamemode in a far future
NOOOOO THEY REMOVED MY HEAVEN AHHHHHHH
Very exciting actually, just looking at the video this maps me excited. I really like the way B site was handled, heaven sucked to push and yellow train in the middle added a bit of clutter. A site is debatable and I would have to play it for some hours to really feel that one out. Old train will be missed but new train looks like it will be welcomed.
1:53 we get it, you didn't need to mag dump it though 😭
I Can say train went from my fave map to least favorit map. Next to vertigo