i just use a pallet fork to penetrate beneath the rocks that stick up and pop them out. a lot less destruction to the lawn then what that grapple is doing but you do what you can with what ya got!
Hey LA! Yes, several folks told me when I got the tractor that I would find more things to do with it than I could imagine at the time and they were right. Sure beats the old way!! Take care and all the best to you!
Great grapple work GP! Seems like as soon as you pull up one theres a bunch that come up with it. Mowing is going to be breeze now. You have a beautiful piece of lakefront property there. Gorgeous view. Thanks for sharing!
Probably a little overloaded @ 6:15 ! It would have looked much safer if you would have kept the grapple lower to the ground. Your machine was looking pretty tippy as the weight came off the rear tires! Keep the loader arms lowered for more stability and greater lift capacities. 😊👍👍
Thanks so much Mark. I always appreciate helpful advice. Back then, I was still pretty new and have since learned the importance of keeping the load low. And fortunately, without any incidents. But thanks! Always appreciate help as there is still a lot to learn. Cheers and enjoy the weekend!
I went with the HLA root rake (shorter lower tines like yours) thinking that it keeps the pressure closer to the lower joint vs the ones with the longer bucket tines that seem like the leverage would work against the tractor more for digging up rocks or stumps. Will see when I get it going, can't wait.
Hey congrats Kingsqueak! Love my grapple. Just a note of caution, if you don't mind me offering: I started getting a little careless this summer as I got more used to using it. You may have noticed I have a few bent tines now and i figured out the reason is because I started applying too much down pressure when picking up rocks. In other words I would close the jaw around the rock, and then I would keep pressing the down pressure on it ( cause I wasn't sure if I had a good grip or not). So the repeated pressure would finally bend a tine when the tine was hitting a side surface of the rock. Hope that helps a bit. I have gone back to being more careful and all is well but thought that might be helpful for you. Good luck and enjoy it!
@@GPOutdoors Yup caught that, thanks. My tractor is a bit of a tank, went with a Massey 2607h, filled tires, and the HLA RRG66 (it's the one with the dual lid, wanted single but also wanted the heavier rake build too so had to go with the dual clamp) as rocks and heavy raking to clean up a fair amount of aged forestry slash is the main use.
You weren't kidding when you said you had a lot of rocks. You are becoming a master of using the grapple. A job well done! Thanks for the shout out. Later.
Hi Ronnie. This grapple is a "root Rake" grapple - it is designed to push through just beneath the surface to rip out roots and rocks etc. I have learned there are a number of different types of grapples. It works really well for it's design. There are other types I have seen that have much more elongated bottom tines, some are straight and others have a slight curve to them. Some have jaws that arc sharply and others have a more gentle arc to them. Others have an almost 90 degree bend in them. Lots to choose from out there for sure. Good luck on your search!
Hey good day Jon! So nice to hear from you. Yes, gotta say I love that attachment. I keep finding practical uses for it. Hope you are doing great and all the best!! Thanks for saying hello and keep smiling!
I was wondering, I have a 2601 comming, and I watched this about the grapple , what kind is it.. did you install the 3rd function valve , if so what problems did you have ,,and do you have wheel spacers? Thanks much
Morning Skeets and congrats on the B2601! I had the 3rd function installed by the dealer and yes, I did install wheel spacers (because I need chains in the winter with the big hills on my driveway). Rimguard in the rear tires and a block heater as well. Hope that helps. Enjoy your new tractor and let me know how it goes from time to time. Cheers!
Thanks for the B2601 videos; I discovered your channel after deciding that my next purchase would be a B2601, and it's been very helpful. Can I ask for details on that root/rock rake? We're in a very rocky part of Arkansas and have very similar rock issues to yours. Thanks
Good day John. You bet . I just dug 4 more boulders out of the lawn today. It is made by HLA Attachments here in Ontario, Canada. It is pretty heavy compared to other models you may find, so you have to consider any impact on overall lifting capacity. It is a "Light Duty Root Rake with Grapple". You will see it on their website. Hope that is helpful and thanks very much for watching and glad if the videos have helped a little. Cheers!
any chance of you doing a video of your third functioning valve? What it looks like and how your opinion of the install would be? I know you didn't install it but I am thinking of doing one myself and just thought I would ask.
Good day Kevin. Thanks for the questions. I am not very mechanically minded unfortunately however daveknowshow did a series of videos on this very topic. He installed his own 3rd function valve so it would probably be really helpful for you to watch his videos. He is very skilled at mechanics and with tractors. He has some really good how to videos. Sorry I could not be more helpful to you. Cheers and best of luck!
Hey good evening Rob! Good question. I always lift slowly and "feel" the tractor as I do things. If the tractor starts to get unstable you can feel it get light on the back or on one side or the other, so I always do things slowly so I can tell if I have gone too far or not. It was good! Cheers and thanks!
You and your friend need a project this coming winter. A Smaller Rock Grapple! Only 3 tines wide on the bottom and a 2 tine wide Thumb. Use the Hydraulic Cylinder and hoses from your present one. (easy to swap back and forth) They sell the mounting Plate for $150US. Make a pattern of your tines. Cut and weld it up. You won't tear up so much grass. Should be able to lift about a 2 to 300 lb larger rock and you would have an easier time getting to the rock due to the smaller foot print of the grapple.
Hey John. That is a great idea. While I was doing it today I was thinking the same thing. I will talk to my neighbour Guy. Thanks - great idea. Thanks for the great idea and for watching. Cheers!
Hi Michael. It' a beast. It is a root rake. After 2 years I have bent two of the tines a bit but easily corrected. I have hauled out so many large granite boulders from the earth, among other things. To be honest I have never used a different brand but I love this thing. It's heavy, mind you, more so than the other carbon steel models. It is made by HLA Attachments here in Ontario. They have a website. This s the "Light Duty" Root Rake Grapple model. Thanks for watching! Cheers!
At some point (pardon the pun) you might want to think about welding some T-1 round stock to the bottom of the grapple teeth to extend their life. Are you planning to get a mid deck mower as well? Thanks for posting.
Good Morning! Good thing to remove the rocks! I hit one yesterday with the deck. The grapple is a must have attachment. How much lawn surface you have? Any project with those rocks? Thanks for sharing!
Good morning Ronald. Thanks for the question. It is an HLA Attachments unit and it's their "Light Duty Root Rake with Grapple" - 60". You can find it on their website, along with the specs. They make different sizes too. I bought it from my Kubota dealer but you can also get it from Farmer equipment Sales if you live in Canada. Cheers and best of luck!
Good morning D. It is an HLA Attachments Root Rake Grapple (Light Duty). Made right here in Ontario Canada. :) My favourite attachment by far. Have a great week!
Hi Peter. It is located on the top of the Loader control stick, just below the top. If you wish to see it closer , I move the switch in Video #85. Hope that helps. Cheers!
Hey good evening Joey. Yes, it would be great to have one but that backhoe option was a lot of $$, so going to have to improvise in the meantime. But so far so good for most things. Thanks so much for watching and for commenting. Have a great week and all the best!!
G P quit interesting where we live it's mostly sand live out on a point out in Lake Michigan not many rock in land a lot of lime stone enjoy your work God Bless PaK
Hey good afternoon Peter. I am smack in the middle of the Canadian Shield as you probably know so pretty much anywhere you dig is filled with rock. Thanks for commenting - always so nice to hear from you. Cheers!
Wooo GP, you did have a few icebergs at the camp site. Excellent work working those little boulders out of there. Great footage. That root grapple does the trick, eh? Have a fine week.
Good morning Dale. It's my favourite attachment! It is a 60" but i think if I were to buy it again, I would go with the 54" model. Thanks and all the best!
@@GPOutdoors goodmorning and all the best to you too. thanks for the reply gp. we have a saying here. hind sight is 20/20. the extra weight of the 60"grapple is just a little extra ballast for you when you have a heavy load on the rear. but i see your point it detracts from your front load capacity a tiny bit. cheers
Each pound of grapple weight is one less payload pound your hydraulics can lift. We are trading our BX2680 for a B2601. Since grapples are designed to lift from the center and my grapple is a 48" with more than ample hydraulic pressure we will be keeping the much lighter 48" grapple for the 2601.
Great job GP it works great but it looks like you never know what you are getting in to it could be a small one or car ! LOL But very nice lake how big is it and do you do a lot of fishing ? i miss my gramps lake it has been years that i have been fishing ! have a great and safe week ! Curt :-)
Hey good evening KC! So true - every rock is a mystery until I start digging. :)) It is a medium - sized lake. I am in the bay of the lake so you can't see the main body of the lake, which is nice. Every morning and evening, many folks are out fishing here in the bay. The water turns to glass in the early morning and late evening - really beautiful. Cheers and thanks as always ! Have a great week.
Isn't if funny how you get an attachment and think of the projects you can do with it. Then the more you use it, you realize there is so much more than can be done with it. You pulled out some nice size rocks. The root rock also did a minimal amount of damage to the turf. Getting rid of those rocks will cut down on the mowing time.
Hey Roger. Yes, so true. Am really happy I finally decided to get a tractor for the property after all these years. Thanks for watching and for saying hi as always. Can't wait to see your old Massey tuned up and in action!! Cheers and thanks again!
Good day Lew. Yes I do for sure. Not sure how much you have looked into the specs but if you can afford the extra amount, then it is certainly a good tractor, from my perspective. Heavier, a couple of inches more clearance, lifts more etc. For what I needed to do here, I decided the extra lifting power and capacity etc of the B2650 was not worth the additional cost to me. Plus I wanted to be as thin as possible (but still have enough capacity) to be able to wind through the forest easily. Here, the cost difference was material enough to consider however if I had more budget I would have probably purchased the 2650. 100% happy with the 2601 to date but as many folks say, you should always buy as much tractor as you can afford, tempered of course by what types of things you will need to do and size of your property. Also, because of the work I do a lot in the forest, I did not want a cab, however if I did not have the forest to work with and had a reasonably open property, I definitely would have considered the cab option because it sure gets cold here in the winter. LOL ( and the cab is only offered on the 2650).Hope that helps a bit. Good luck with your decision. Let me know how it goes. Cheers!
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Nice video, beautiful background!
i just use a pallet fork to penetrate beneath the rocks that stick up and pop them out. a lot less destruction to the lawn then what that grapple is doing but you do what you can with what ya got!
Morning LH! So true. I find that you tend to what you can with what you have. Have a Happy 4th of July weekend!
Now you went and dug up all your blade sharpeners for the lawn mower. LOL Nice job GP. It's cool all the stuff you can do with these add-ons.
Hey LA! Yes, several folks told me when I got the tractor that I would find more things to do with it than I could imagine at the time and they were right. Sure beats the old way!! Take care and all the best to you!
Great grapple work GP! Seems like as soon as you pull up one theres a bunch that come up with it. Mowing is going to be breeze now. You have a beautiful piece of lakefront property there. Gorgeous view. Thanks for sharing!
What is the cost of the root rake
Excellent job GP!
Have a great weekend!
Hey thanks so much P! You too ! Cheers
Thanks!
Probably a little overloaded @ 6:15 ! It would have looked much safer if you would have kept the grapple lower to the ground. Your machine was looking pretty tippy as the weight came off the rear tires! Keep the loader arms lowered for more stability and greater lift capacities. 😊👍👍
Thanks so much Mark. I always appreciate helpful advice. Back then, I was still pretty new and have since learned the importance of keeping the load low. And fortunately, without any incidents. But thanks! Always appreciate help as there is still a lot to learn. Cheers and enjoy the weekend!
I went with the HLA root rake (shorter lower tines like yours) thinking that it keeps the pressure closer to the lower joint vs the ones with the longer bucket tines that seem like the leverage would work against the tractor more for digging up rocks or stumps. Will see when I get it going, can't wait.
Hey congrats Kingsqueak! Love my grapple. Just a note of caution, if you don't mind me offering: I started getting a little careless this summer as I got more used to using it. You may have noticed I have a few bent tines now and i figured out the reason is because I started applying too much down pressure when picking up rocks. In other words I would close the jaw around the rock, and then I would keep pressing the down pressure on it ( cause I wasn't sure if I had a good grip or not). So the repeated pressure would finally bend a tine when the tine was hitting a side surface of the rock. Hope that helps a bit. I have gone back to being more careful and all is well but thought that might be helpful for you. Good luck and enjoy it!
@@GPOutdoors Yup caught that, thanks. My tractor is a bit of a tank, went with a Massey 2607h, filled tires, and the HLA RRG66 (it's the one with the dual lid, wanted single but also wanted the heavier rake build too so had to go with the dual clamp) as rocks and heavy raking to clean up a fair amount of aged forestry slash is the main use.
You weren't kidding when you said you had a lot of rocks. You are becoming a master of using the grapple. A job well done! Thanks for the shout out. Later.
Great video GP, enjoyed watching and seeing that Kubota get a workout!
Hey thanks so much Paul! Have a great week!
GP that is a really handy tool I need to build one for my BX23S but first I will need the third function. Cheers
It seems like the bottom forks should be longer
Hi Ronnie. This grapple is a "root Rake" grapple - it is designed to push through just beneath the surface to rip out roots and rocks etc. I have learned there are a number of different types of grapples. It works really well for it's design. There are other types I have seen that have much more elongated bottom tines, some are straight and others have a slight curve to them. Some have jaws that arc sharply and others have a more gentle arc to them. Others have an almost 90 degree bend in them. Lots to choose from out there for sure. Good luck on your search!
I’ve watched a lot of tractor vids with grapple use and I gotta say yours impresses me the most. That thing looks very capable of any task. Wow!
Hey good day Jon! So nice to hear from you. Yes, gotta say I love that attachment. I keep finding practical uses for it. Hope you are doing great and all the best!! Thanks for saying hello and keep smiling!
Nice video. Thanks.
Good job GP , the rake is doing and excellent job .
Thanks Leo! Hope you are doing great!
I was wondering, I have a 2601 comming, and I watched this about the grapple , what kind is it.. did you install the 3rd function valve , if so what problems did you have ,,and do you have wheel spacers? Thanks much
Morning Skeets and congrats on the B2601! I had the 3rd function installed by the dealer and yes, I did install wheel spacers (because I need chains in the winter with the big hills on my driveway). Rimguard in the rear tires and a block heater as well. Hope that helps. Enjoy your new tractor and let me know how it goes from time to time. Cheers!
Thanks for the B2601 videos; I discovered your channel after deciding that my next purchase would be a B2601, and it's been very helpful. Can I ask for details on that root/rock rake? We're in a very rocky part of Arkansas and have very similar rock issues to yours. Thanks
Good day John. You bet . I just dug 4 more boulders out of the lawn today. It is made by HLA Attachments here in Ontario, Canada. It is pretty heavy compared to other models you may find, so you have to consider any impact on overall lifting capacity. It is a "Light Duty Root Rake with Grapple". You will see it on their website. Hope that is helpful and thanks very much for watching and glad if the videos have helped a little. Cheers!
Was wondering what's been happening up in central Ontario lol. Good vid, enjoyed it.
Thanks Greg!!
I like your channel and how you are numbering them. Great work.
Amazing piece of equipment what would we do without hydraulics
any chance of you doing a video of your third functioning valve? What it looks like and how your opinion of the install would be? I know you didn't install it but I am thinking of doing one myself and just thought I would ask.
Good day Kevin. Thanks for the questions. I am not very mechanically minded unfortunately however daveknowshow did a series of videos on this very topic. He installed his own 3rd function valve so it would probably be really helpful for you to watch his videos. He is very skilled at mechanics and with tractors. He has some really good how to videos. Sorry I could not be more helpful to you. Cheers and best of luck!
That one rock at 5:30 was pretty big! Were you worried about the stability of your machine with it? The grapple looks like a fantastic tool!
Hey good evening Rob! Good question. I always lift slowly and "feel" the tractor as I do things. If the tractor starts to get unstable you can feel it get light on the back or on one side or the other, so I always do things slowly so I can tell if I have gone too far or not. It was good! Cheers and thanks!
You and your friend need a project this coming winter. A Smaller Rock Grapple! Only 3 tines wide on the bottom and a 2 tine wide Thumb. Use the Hydraulic Cylinder and hoses from your present one. (easy to swap back and forth) They sell the mounting Plate for $150US. Make a pattern of your tines. Cut and weld it up. You won't tear up so much grass. Should be able to lift about a 2 to 300 lb larger rock and you would have an easier time getting to the rock due to the smaller foot print of the grapple.
Hey John. That is a great idea. While I was doing it today I was thinking the same thing. I will talk to my neighbour Guy. Thanks - great idea. Thanks for the great idea and for watching. Cheers!
You did a nice job. So is your grapple really a root rake that is sturdy enough for those large rocks and what brand is it? Thanks for the video.
Hi Michael. It' a beast. It is a root rake. After 2 years I have bent two of the tines a bit but easily corrected. I have hauled out so many large granite boulders from the earth, among other things. To be honest I have never used a different brand but I love this thing. It's heavy, mind you, more so than the other carbon steel models. It is made by HLA Attachments here in Ontario. They have a website. This s the "Light Duty" Root Rake Grapple model. Thanks for watching! Cheers!
At some point (pardon the pun) you might want to think about welding some T-1 round stock to the bottom of the grapple teeth to extend their life.
Are you planning to get a mid deck mower as well?
Thanks for posting.
Morning RC. Thanks for the tip (sorry, couldn't resist). I am getting a finish mower - it's on order. :) Have a great week!
Good Morning! Good thing to remove the rocks! I hit one yesterday with the deck. The grapple is a must have attachment. How much lawn surface you have? Any project with those rocks? Thanks for sharing!
Those rocks once cleaned off would look great around the property. As stone settings, short walls and borders for sure.
What’s the weight of the grapple?my tractor Is a 34hp with about 1000lb lift capacity.
Good morning Ronnie. She's a heavy one - about 450 lbs. It's commercial steel (not the high carbon stuff). Take care!
GP Outdoors thanks
you won the log off on out doors with the morgans congrat
Good day Mike. Yup, pretty happy . It was a lot of fun and enjoyed the spirit fo the challenge. Cheers and have a great week!
can you get back to me about that grappler and root rake what model and name of grapple and where you got it
Good morning Ronald. Thanks for the question. It is an HLA Attachments unit and it's their "Light Duty Root Rake with Grapple" - 60". You can find it on their website, along with the specs. They make different sizes too. I bought it from my Kubota dealer but you can also get it from Farmer equipment Sales if you live in Canada. Cheers and best of luck!
You need to put that in 4-wheel drive
Nice work. Your video showed me just what I was hoping to see. What brand/model of grapple is that?
Good morning D. It is an HLA Attachments Root Rake Grapple (Light Duty). Made right here in Ontario Canada. :) My favourite attachment by far. Have a great week!
Where is that control for the 3rd function!?Trying so hard to see
Hi Peter. It is located on the top of the Loader control stick, just below the top. If you wish to see it closer , I move the switch in Video #85. Hope that helps. Cheers!
I’m on my way!
What model grappler is that?
Good morning John! It is an HLA Attachments 60" Root Rake with Grapple - Light Duty. Cheers!
You need to get a grizzly to screen the stone... you'd also be better off using a backhoe Just my .02. Fun to watch though :)
Hey good evening Joey. Yes, it would be great to have one but that backhoe option was a lot of $$, so going to have to improvise in the meantime. But so far so good for most things. Thanks so much for watching and for commenting. Have a great week and all the best!!
G P quit interesting where we live it's mostly sand live out on a point out in Lake Michigan not many rock in land a lot of lime stone enjoy your work
God Bless
PaK
Hey good afternoon Peter. I am smack in the middle of the Canadian Shield as you probably know so pretty much anywhere you dig is filled with rock. Thanks for commenting - always so nice to hear from you. Cheers!
Wooo GP, you did have a few icebergs at the camp site. Excellent work working those little boulders out of there. Great footage. That root grapple does the trick, eh? Have a fine week.
Hey thanks Houndsman! You too - all the best!!
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Oui. They are jumping .:)) Cheers and merci!
that grapple seems to work very well on your B2601. Impressive and is it a 55" ?
Good morning Dale. It's my favourite attachment! It is a 60" but i think if I were to buy it again, I would go with the 54" model. Thanks and all the best!
@@GPOutdoors goodmorning and all the best to you too. thanks for the reply gp. we have a saying here. hind sight is 20/20. the extra weight of the 60"grapple is just a little extra ballast for you when you have a heavy load on the rear. but i see your point it detracts from your front load capacity a tiny bit. cheers
Good point - thanks Dale! Cheers :))
Each pound of grapple weight is one less payload pound your hydraulics can lift. We are trading our BX2680 for a B2601. Since grapples are designed to lift from the center and my grapple is a 48" with more than ample hydraulic pressure we will be keeping the much lighter 48" grapple for the 2601.
Great job GP it works great but it looks like you never know what you are getting in to it could be a small one or car ! LOL But very nice lake how big is it and do you do a lot of fishing ? i miss my gramps lake it has been years that i have been fishing ! have a great and safe week ! Curt :-)
Hey good evening KC! So true - every rock is a mystery until I start digging. :)) It is a medium - sized lake. I am in the bay of the lake so you can't see the main body of the lake, which is nice. Every morning and evening, many folks are out fishing here in the bay. The water turns to glass in the early morning and late evening - really beautiful. Cheers and thanks as always ! Have a great week.
Great little tractor i love mine
Me too - Still! Thanks for watching and for saying hi! Cheers!
Isn't if funny how you get an attachment and think of the projects you can do with it. Then the more you use it, you realize there is so much more than can be done with it. You pulled out some nice size rocks. The root rock also did a minimal amount of damage to the turf. Getting rid of those rocks will cut down on the mowing time.
Hey Roger. Yes, so true. Am really happy I finally decided to get a tractor for the property after all these years. Thanks for watching and for saying hi as always. Can't wait to see your old Massey tuned up and in action!! Cheers and thanks again!
Do you see any advantage to the 2650 instead of the 2601?
Good day Lew. Yes I do for sure. Not sure how much you have looked into the specs but if you can afford the extra amount, then it is certainly a good tractor, from my perspective. Heavier, a couple of inches more clearance, lifts more etc. For what I needed to do here, I decided the extra lifting power and capacity etc of the B2650 was not worth the additional cost to me. Plus I wanted to be as thin as possible (but still have enough capacity) to be able to wind through the forest easily. Here, the cost difference was material enough to consider however if I had more budget I would have probably purchased the 2650. 100% happy with the 2601 to date but as many folks say, you should always buy as much tractor as you can afford, tempered of course by what types of things you will need to do and size of your property. Also, because of the work I do a lot in the forest, I did not want a cab, however if I did not have the forest to work with and had a reasonably open property, I definitely would have considered the cab option because it sure gets cold here in the winter. LOL ( and the cab is only offered on the 2650).Hope that helps a bit. Good luck with your decision. Let me know how it goes. Cheers!