I'm actually wearing a mask in the video. It's rough on the lungs even before you fire it. It came with the coating, probably should have mentioned that.
I would have put a coat of satanite on the kaowool before firing up the forge to keep the Kaowool fibers out of the air, added insulation and heat retention are a side benefit. I also would have used thicker Kaowool so as to keep the external temperatures low enough to not leave a 3rd degree burn if you accidentally brush up against it
I forgot to mention, it comes with the coating. Takes two days to dry so I shot the vid before coating. Really don't like those 600 degree outside Temps and the huge flames shooting out the front and back.
@@TheGoodoftheLand you can block off the Flames billowing out the front and back with a piece of fire brick, 600 degree outside temps can be shored up with satanite and thicker Kaowool. I mean it'll still be over 150 degrees externally, but not nearly as hot as it sits now. Personally It looks like someone tried to copy a build here on youtube (th-cam.com/video/vQN7EqGMTuo/w-d-xo.html) that I saw a few years back using a stainless steel trash bin.... But it didn't turn out nearly as well and it looks like they stepped on the can :P In any case, were it built better I might have considered picking one up as a back up in case mine decides to crap out for some reason... Those Burners however look pretty solid, the regulator... I would have thrown it in the scrap pile and used one that I know is safe (the one that comes with it looks a little too Janky for my personal tastes) Anyhow, I've taken up enough of your time with my rambling and bad grammar Enjoy the rest of your day, and you and yours stay safe out there.
this was a 'two for" vid, got to see you put the forge thru its paces but tossed in free cute little anvil restoration, watching that milling on the surface of the anvil was one of the coolest things i see in a while!
I was wondering why he didn’t brick the doors to heat the steel faster but hey it’s his forge I wouldn’t use it cause it heats the steel un-evenly didn’t you notice the cold spot in the middle of his bar stock
Just giving a headsup the front and back burner shouldn't have varied as much as it did. You had a lot more material at the front burner that was sapping the heat from the hotspot on the metal. The back burner was rather close to the tip and the heat isn't going to dissipate nearly as well. If the back burner with a better test still produces more heat use that as the front side as the excess material will dissipate the heat a bit better and and it out so to speak.
Idk why but even In the disc for his link he said the one burner was 160 and now the one burned is only 100 and the double burner is 160 so prices dropped maybe...?
Would like to see it in operation after you put in some brick lined doors on it. Did you compare the firebrick that came with it against known firebrick? I've never seen a forge throw out flames like that. That shouldn't happen. Seems to me the jets are positioned wrong. Also I would have put a T section between the risers then hooked the valve to the T to allow a more even distribution of gas.
I heard you say a couple hundred bucks not bad, for about 80 bucks or so you can get a Mr volcano forge that's built a hell of a lot better, and it comes with refractory cement, for about 125 to 130 bucks you can get a dual burner unit from Mr volcano that again is built way better.
The Mr volcanoe forge is actually the cheaper option on Amazon ($75) and it's actually from the looks of it probably two or three times as good of quality as this thing
May want to look into getting 4 fire bricks for the openings, that way you can close the holes a little bit and getting a more even heat across the metal. also may help save on gas maybe? lets you keep the heat in so you don't have to burn as much gas.
Yeah cheapest forge on Amazon now is under $100 right now although its constantly out of stock but you can place orders. There is even a double version thats longer like this one thats under $200 and still in stock.
I bought a forge last year that looked just like that one. mine didn't come with any wrench. what are the chances you weren't supposed to either. (bonus item)
I got a single burner forge like this for free due to a mistake on amazon. The one I ordered was so cheap Ithought it was a scam, so I canceled the order... Two months later, it showed up in my mail anyway. I'm currently in the process of slowly heating it to break in the refractory cement.
Not the cheapest gas forge on amazon, the Mr volcano is cheaper, in either its single or the mr volcano hero 2, dual burner version. Would be interesting to see a comparison between them
Hate to break it to you but this is not the cheapest Amazon forge....the mr. Volcano forge that a handful of people have reviewed recently is about 100 bucks cheaper than this one. I got a devils forge a little while back that is very similar to this one its a circle body double burner and it was 159.99 if you look around often times you can find the same product on Amazon for cheaper or higher pricing. Regardless great video good information and appreciate you taking the time to share with us all.
There's uneaven of gas distribution due to the placement of gas valve that feeds in to the forge like you said and wel because it's closest to the front burner you just need to divide the space between burners with a t valve it's going to give same spacement to both burners. Just a fools idea...
@16:10 flip the burner orientation and walla the front is hotter.. or which ever side you want to deem as the front.. flip the burners or spin the unit. 😂
If you had opened the air inlets at the top of the burners more then you wouldn't have gotten as much dragons breath coming out of the ends of the forge. Either that or turn the gas pressure down some.
How do you not get absolutley "sun burned" while forging. When I was welding all the time I got absolutely fried if I didn't cover up everything, red hot metal lets off a lot of uv rays.
Its not the metal that gives off the UV rays, its the electrical arc from welding that makes the UV light that frys you like a sunburn. Forge welding wont do the same thing to you.
Awesome video, but just to tease... isn't the "front" of the forge relative to how you put it on the table?? lol Sorry I couldn't help myself. I have this forge and found the same thing to a lesser degree and just spun the beast around and put my tank on the other side.
Hello, at 3:54, what is the name of that ring component you use to tighten the hose ? And what is the name of the tool/device with which you tighten it?
@@GainsGoblin its actually a decent little kicker. Ive been running the same tank of propane for three knives and its about half full still. Im also being inefficient as balls because, im a noob. I expect the propane would last a little longer, if I knew better what i was doing. Having to coat the kaowool myself with refractory cement wasn't great, wasnt difficult to do either though. For the price, im happier than Luke in a Tauntaun.
Airborne Kaowool dust isn't healthy and foolish to not warn potential new people. Don't be in a newbie hurry to light it up without looking into refractory cement or it's proper installation and curing. It's easy, Safer, and makes your Kaowool last much longer. It just takes a little more time to be much safer and save money in the long run.
I wouldn’t buy that forge the jets are too far apart didn’t you notice the cold spot in the middle of your steel your gonna get cold shunts cause part of what your working is gonna be too cold I would buy a little better one than that if I were you
@@luciusirving5926 some guy did a test with a torch held it in the same spot on the hempcrete for some time and it only made it turn black but id imagine forge temp is hotter then a torch so im not sure if it would even work for forging temp
I wouldn't pay $30 for that! A couple hundred bucks? Are you freaking kidding me? I have a piece of scrap tubing from alro steel exactly like that I bought it because it was a little bit off shape and it cost a whopping $4 at scrap cost from alro steel in their scrap bin! You could build both burners I would say for under 10 bucks I've done it before and I'm sure that I didn't spend more than $10 on the fittings. I would say you could build the whole thing for 30 or $40 and it would take maybe 2 hours of course I do have a machine shop but really unless you're making your own fittings you don't even need anything special
Justin you might want to coat that liner. Uncoated Kaowool is hard on the lungs
Yup, got some refractory cement. Gonna give her a coat.
@@TheGoodoftheLand I thought I would beat everyone else to the comment lol
I'm actually wearing a mask in the video. It's rough on the lungs even before you fire it. It came with the coating, probably should have mentioned that.
@@TheGoodoftheLand almost look breathing in fiberglass
I kept watching this and kept thinking the same thing.
I use this exact forge to make blades up to 3 feet long including heat treatment. For the price it’s an excellent forge
May i ask, may you comment the amazon link?
glad you're testing this kinda stuff, not many smiths have money for a massive forge
I would have put a coat of satanite on the kaowool before firing up the forge to keep the Kaowool fibers out of the air, added insulation and heat retention are a side benefit. I also would have used thicker Kaowool so as to keep the external temperatures low enough to not leave a 3rd degree burn if you accidentally brush up against it
I forgot to mention, it comes with the coating. Takes two days to dry so I shot the vid before coating. Really don't like those 600 degree outside Temps and the huge flames shooting out the front and back.
@@TheGoodoftheLand you can block off the Flames billowing out the front and back with a piece of fire brick, 600 degree outside temps can be shored up with satanite and thicker Kaowool. I mean it'll still be over 150 degrees externally, but not nearly as hot as it sits now.
Personally It looks like someone tried to copy a build here on youtube (th-cam.com/video/vQN7EqGMTuo/w-d-xo.html) that I saw a few years back using a stainless steel trash bin.... But it didn't turn out nearly as well and it looks like they stepped on the can :P
In any case, were it built better I might have considered picking one up as a back up in case mine decides to crap out for some reason... Those Burners however look pretty solid, the regulator... I would have thrown it in the scrap pile and used one that I know is safe (the one that comes with it looks a little too Janky for my personal tastes)
Anyhow, I've taken up enough of your time with my rambling and bad grammar
Enjoy the rest of your day, and you and yours stay safe out there.
I don't know about satanite, but I would use a mix of sodium silicate with grog, baby powder and plaster.
this was a 'two for" vid, got to see you put the forge thru its paces but tossed in free cute little anvil restoration, watching that milling on the surface of the anvil was one of the coolest things i see in a while!
Couple fire brick doors would help keep the heat in also
I was wondering why he didn’t brick the doors to heat the steel faster but hey it’s his forge I wouldn’t use it cause it heats the steel un-evenly didn’t you notice the cold spot in the middle of his bar stock
Just giving a headsup the front and back burner shouldn't have varied as much as it did. You had a lot more material at the front burner that was sapping the heat from the hotspot on the metal. The back burner was rather close to the tip and the heat isn't going to dissipate nearly as well. If the back burner with a better test still produces more heat use that as the front side as the excess material will dissipate the heat a bit better and and it out so to speak.
The second he said "alright my friendly nerds" I knew I just sub.
Really interesting and a good starter forge or someone that wants to really see if its for them. Can we have a catch-up video in a few months of use.
If it's cooking the paint off, sand it down and repaint it with wood burning stove paint. You can buy it at most hardware stores.
Me, expecting it to be about $100.
GotL: "Not bad for a couple hundred bucks."
Me: "Oh baby no what is you doin'."
there is one for 75...single burner, i recommend watching Adam cee's video on it
www.amazon.com/Blacksmiths-Single-Propane-Knifemaking-Farriers/dp/B07KX3FW9C/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=forge&m=A1IFQNUCPOQPAB&qid=1625308283&s=merchant-items&sr=1-8
Idk why but even In the disc for his link he said the one burner was 160 and now the one burned is only 100 and the double burner is 160 so prices dropped maybe...?
I have no idea what the price is now.. This video was made two years ago.
I got one of these and used it for the first time today, made an arrow head out of rebar
Would like to see it in operation after you put in some brick lined doors on it.
Did you compare the firebrick that came with it against known firebrick?
I've never seen a forge throw out flames like that. That shouldn't happen.
Seems to me the jets are positioned wrong. Also I would have put a T section between the risers then hooked the valve to the T to allow a more even distribution of gas.
Had no idea that thing existed! Its perfect for small work! That anvil turned out nice!
I heard you say a couple hundred bucks not bad, for about 80 bucks or so you can get a Mr volcano forge that's built a hell of a lot better, and it comes with refractory cement, for about 125 to 130 bucks you can get a dual burner unit from Mr volcano that again is built way better.
The Mr volcanoe forge is actually the cheaper option on Amazon ($75) and it's actually from the looks of it probably two or three times as good of quality as this thing
This is the same forge I have, been using for about a year and it works good for the money
Nice resto on that little anvil. A nice size for your intended purpose.
May want to look into getting 4 fire bricks for the openings, that way you can close the holes a little bit and getting a more even heat across the metal. also may help save on gas maybe? lets you keep the heat in so you don't have to burn as much gas.
Yeah cheapest forge on Amazon now is under $100 right now although its constantly out of stock but you can place orders. There is even a double version thats longer like this one thats under $200 and still in stock.
I thought kaowool needed a coating before using in a forge?
Correct. I'm wearing a mask. Couldn't wait two days for the coating to cure.
If you can't find the oil you like....try boiled linseed oil. I used it on my hay budden anvil it looks great. Also my hammers and wood handles.
I bought a forge last year that looked just like that one. mine didn't come with any wrench. what are the chances you weren't supposed to either. (bonus item)
I got a single burner forge like this for free due to a mistake on amazon. The one I ordered was so cheap Ithought it was a scam, so I canceled the order... Two months later, it showed up in my mail anyway. I'm currently in the process of slowly heating it to break in the refractory cement.
Not the cheapest gas forge on amazon, the Mr volcano is cheaper, in either its single or the mr volcano hero 2, dual burner version. Would be interesting to see a comparison between them
I just got my mr. volcano 2.
Joe, how's it work?
Good video my Man. Superb job on the anvil beak.
I hope you coated that liner or at a minimum rigidized it
Hate to break it to you but this is not the cheapest Amazon forge....the mr. Volcano forge that a handful of people have reviewed recently is about 100 bucks cheaper than this one. I got a devils forge a little while back that is very similar to this one its a circle body double burner and it was 159.99 if you look around often times you can find the same product on Amazon for cheaper or higher pricing. Regardless great video good information and appreciate you taking the time to share with us all.
I have the same forge, I had to buy refractory cement to coat the wool. The cement it came with is crap.
Great job on the anvil btw!
i could just borrow my schools "flame thrower"
Justin have you done a video on making a furnace and crucible for melting aluminum? Oh my Steve, he’s so dreamy. ❤️❤️❤️
Not yet, I will eventually. Get your own Stephen, this one is mine!😉
There's uneaven of gas distribution due to the placement of gas valve that feeds in to the forge like you said and wel because it's closest to the front burner you just need to divide the space between burners with a t valve it's going to give same spacement to both burners.
Just a fools idea...
Think maybe you otta tram that millhead/flycutter combo?
What makes that the front side
Nice little forge. Keep steven out og trouble if you can. LOL
Amazing job on that anvil beautiful work
for items like this i tend to use old used compressor oil.
was debating on this or sticking with the hells forge for twice the price, seems to be ok, guess ill find out.
@16:10 flip the burner orientation and walla the front is hotter.. or which ever side you want to deem as the front.. flip the burners or spin the unit. 😂
FYI There's a little forge on Amazon for $75.
The cheapest forge on Amazon is $88 and it comes with hardener for the insulation.
I got a extra railtrack you should grab the next time you are down this way
dual burner on sale for $140 right now
Size and function, very similar to my Devil Forge.
Cheers, Gary
I bought the same one as you. Works great so far.
You are supposed to harden the insulation before using🤔
No sealant for Kayowool(sp)? As it burns the fibers shoot out everywhere?
Thanks!
If you had opened the air inlets at the top of the burners more then you wouldn't have gotten as much dragons breath coming out of the ends of the forge. Either that or turn the gas pressure down some.
for this price could get a good devils forge same style for cheaper but way better
How do you not get absolutley "sun burned" while forging. When I was welding all the time I got absolutely fried if I didn't cover up everything, red hot metal lets off a lot of uv rays.
Its not the metal that gives off the UV rays, its the electrical arc from welding that makes the UV light that frys you like a sunburn. Forge welding wont do the same thing to you.
Have you tried any of the cheap smelting furnaces they sell?
That kinda like the dual burner version of the forge I got
How long will that propane tank last?
Not sure, I keep stealing it for the weed burner!
Awesome video, but just to tease... isn't the "front" of the forge relative to how you put it on the table?? lol Sorry I couldn't help myself. I have this forge and found the same thing to a lesser degree and just spun the beast around and put my tank on the other side.
Did you use the included coating on the kaowool stuff?
Bro i need help.....can i make it with lpg gas my from india ....n i m blacksmith.... Plz tell
Lubiplate still made right here in Toledo Ohio
The Fiske brothers! 😎
@@PS-rr2jt you from here bro
@@timcrabtree5609
Used to be. I’m pretty familiar with that side of town.
@@PS-rr2jt Hey bro I'm 60 how old you be. We might know some people
I turned my single burner one into a foundry
max temp 716F
The real money is the fireproof insulation
Last comment I do tonight lol . What the model of the lathe ?
Hello, at 3:54, what is the name of that ring component you use to tighten the hose ? And what is the name of the tool/device with which you tighten it?
Very interesting. I'm all for having a decent cheap entry into forging. I might have to grab one.
Ill lyk how mine is when it arrives, if you never got around to buying one
@@UrDadsFavouriteMaleEscort how did it go?
@@GainsGoblin its actually a decent little kicker. Ive been running the same tank of propane for three knives and its about half full still. Im also being inefficient as balls because, im a noob. I expect the propane would last a little longer, if I knew better what i was doing. Having to coat the kaowool myself with refractory cement wasn't great, wasnt difficult to do either though. For the price, im happier than Luke in a Tauntaun.
@@UrDadsFavouriteMaleEscort good to hear I'll actually consider this then thanks
Looks pretty good for the price Justin, is that liner material dangerous to breath though? 👍👍🇦🇺
Yes it is read the pined comment for info
Did you read the instructions?
How do you do the adjustments i have this forge it feels like its going to explode every time i use it
That's how I felt about my plaster rocket stove when it got lit. Fortunately for me, nothing happened, just a very hot and steady burn.
Really interesting 😎
you didn't coat it in refractory cement
I get the same result with my waste oil unit and it runs for zero dollars.
The amazon link doesn’t work!
It's not the top link. Loom for the link that says "get your forge here"
The Good of the Land that Dorset work either
All you have to do is refill that can with linseed oil
Great review. So what forge would you recommend for forge welding?
Some guys prefer forge welding with pine charcoal.
I do not like that much flame coming out of each end!
Hello Steven!!!
Airborne Kaowool dust isn't healthy and foolish to not warn potential new people. Don't be in a newbie hurry to light it up without looking into refractory cement or it's proper installation and curing. It's easy, Safer, and makes your Kaowool last much longer. It just takes a little more time to be much safer and save money in the long run.
Hey man, your Amazon links for me cool don’t seem to be working. Figured I’d let you know.
Link is further down.
Oh, the Mr cool link, sorry, fixing it now! Thanks!
both of your amazon links are broken
Hello Justin bro make more vídeos please ok
Links don't work.
Third or forth link down is the forge. Thanks for the heads up on the Mr cool links
All I got is a rocket stove made of plaster, fiberglass and volcanic ash.
There's a cheaper one on amazon 75$ or pounds uk it's been tested on another TH-cam channel that does forging
Tonto, your lungs are toast. Learn before you teach.
Sincerely.
The Lone Ranger. .
He never put the refractory on it
wish they had screw on hoses
Your Mr cool Amazon links don't work
Thanks! Working on it!
This one is smashed. The one online is round.
That’s just a stove fire brick
kinda scary without some refractory
I wouldn’t buy that forge the jets are too far apart didn’t you notice the cold spot in the middle of your steel your gonna get cold shunts cause part of what your working is gonna be too cold I would buy a little better one than that if I were you
Looks kind of inefficient. Not bad though.
emphysema
Not the Least Expensive on Amazon
Yeah, we don't really update videos from two years ago. Just figure folks are smart enough to figure that out for themselves.
anyone tried hempcrete for forging instead of kaowool?
Never heard of hempcrete, but I want to try it.
@@luciusirving5926 some guy did a test with a torch held it in the same spot on the hempcrete for some time and it only made it turn black but id imagine forge temp is hotter then a torch so im not sure if it would even work for forging temp
you can build a better version yourself..
Wow . The armchair quarter backs are out in force here !
"I do want something I can smack around a little bit...not hardcore...just light"
Feminists 8O
Not the cheapest by far.
I wouldn't pay $30 for that! A couple hundred bucks? Are you freaking kidding me? I have a piece of scrap tubing from alro steel exactly like that I bought it because it was a little bit off shape and it cost a whopping $4 at scrap cost from alro steel in their scrap bin!
You could build both burners I would say for under 10 bucks I've done it before and I'm sure that I didn't spend more than $10 on the fittings. I would say you could build the whole thing for 30 or $40 and it would take maybe 2 hours of course I do have a machine shop but really unless you're making your own fittings you don't even need anything special
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Thanks !