Amin and Dan Le Batard React to Marcellus Wiley's Comments on Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Marcellus Wiley recently shared why he believes that Stephen A. Smith forced Max Kellerman off as co-host of ESPN's First Take. Dan and Amin Elhassan react to Wiley's video and Amin shares his take of the situation and why Max Kellerman didn't fit the "foil" character that Stephen A. was looking for.
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Marcellus 100 percent on point 💯
1000% on point
I NEVER heard Wiley speak until now......that dude is SMART..... I was glad he was a Cowboy :)
SAS removed Max from the show because Max garnered significant support from the African American audience on First Take. Terrell Owens made a point when he suggested that Max displayed a stronger commitment to advocating for black issues compared to SAS. Terrell wasn't implying that Max was black himself, but rather that Max seemed to actively champion and defend causes important to the black community, while SAS appeared to be more hesitant or neutral in his stance.
no he didn't lol max was awful
Spot on bro.
@@usmcmikeco0651yes he did. we loved Max on First Take and subsequently with Keyshawn and JWill before ESPN fired everybody. you must be Stephen A‘s burner account
Facts
@@usmcmikeco0651no tf he wasn’t 😂
Max and Marcellus was one of my favorite shows ever.
Stephen A wanted a white guy he can appear left of sociopolitically. He couldn’t do that with Max
Idk if it's particularly left but he wants to be the face of black folks. That's why TO is right when he says Stephen A was really butt hurt over people thinking Max was more in line with the black community.
That's why Mad Dog is on all the time now
@@XeoMacNasty
Exactly.
I'm a fan of sas but he's always been overly sensitive to that criticism
@@madddoggnogood1491 -- It is easy to become overly sensitive to that criticism though. Most of America and a lot of Black America aren't initially very kind to smart people.
Smart people aren't the in crowd. Smart people look for ways to fit in when we are young. Smart people are the minority in school.
Being black; speaking in a "smart" way was considered speaking white. How many times do you have to hear that to be sensitive about it? (I'm speaking from experience. I did the things Steven A. did as well like playing sports and getting good at them to fit in better.)
We have to code-switch. We have to speak one way in one crowd of people and speak another way in another crowd of people.
It is super easy to be sensitive. You want to fit in. If you are successful, you want to prove you can make things better for the people who used to exclude you.
How would it then feel if someone loved by the Black community then said on air that the white guy on set is more black than you?
You were trying hard to fit in when you were younger but got made fun of by how well you spoke. You made it and tried to give back but looked like a clown.
Easy to be sensitive.
If they were just digital NPCs, Steven A. spoke out against weed while Max spoke for it. Steven A. reasoned Kaepernick didn't deserve a spot while Max spoke on the NFL black balling him and him deserving the opportunity. If you didn't know the race of each individual then T.O.'s statement seemed true and not just a sarcastic statement.
Way more than enough to be sensitive about.
Sorry for the essay.
@@semi6544
I agree to an extent
But that's completely different from what Stephen is sensitive about. Stephen a tries to play both sides of the fence. You can't be a centrist in today's world.
I dont agree with TO. What is "acting black" anyways.
The problem with Stephen a on this issue is like I said he's trying to be centrist. He's trying to be safe for white people and at the same time portray the "brotha" role. And people see through it. And then to take it out on max is ridiculous. All max did was be himself. Stephen a thinks just because he's black, black people should automatically side with him , but yet on certain issues pertaining to black people he does the opposite. He's being hypocritical
I really miss max. He was a breath of fresh air in this type of media
Me too
Max destroyed SAS every time social issues were discussed
No he didn’t idiot
Facts
Sure did. SAS got in his feelings cause folks was riding with Max.
@@jvbell7764 only person that got their feelings hurt is Max and you. Max is not on ESPN anymore and obviously FS1 doesn’t think he is good enough for them to pick up. So be quiet!
Man Please
Stephen A is still haunted by Max’s shadow
*“being blacker”* than he is😂
He damn sure is!
Jewish are God's people. They can pass for any race. Fake Russian accents, anyone?
Max is so talented I can't wait to see what he does next
hes actually my favourite sports talk show host ever I never watch FT again after he left
Why doesn’t espn want to put him on tv if he’s so good ?
Arbys is hiring
@@litedawg you should fill your form in then
@@MakeOutHeaven666 I’ve got an interview next week
It makes so much sense now why Mad Dog is on the show all the time. You can see Mad Dog fighting to not call certain black athletes thugs or gangsters some times. Stephen A looks like Malcolm X next to him.
Not Malcom X 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
“White people love Wayne Brady because he makes Bryant humble look like Malcom X”
😂 hilarious
Max was supposed to be the white clown on the show, the Bayless or Wright, but he kept being too articulate and nuanced and made Stephen A feel dumb. These guys nailed it.
nick wrights married to a black woman
that's what Wiley said he went deep tho
STRAIGHT FACTS!
If you think skip and nick wright are the same, and they're both "clowns" then you've missed the plot a bit. Max and nick are damn near lock Step on political issues, and pretty damn close on how "nerdy" they can be. Stephen A wanted a big draw. Because people like him and skip are more into rating and popularity than actually being "good".
@@xcwilliams7980 there’s no way you can say that about Nick on political issues he doesn’t speak like a historian or someone who is well versed in it, nick Max hold different beliefs, tho both are good hearted while Stephen A acts like a pro-former in every single subject he talks about lmao Max is my favourite talk show host
The sound of the crew bursting out laughing as soon as Will Cain's name is mentioned is pure joy
But he played the part Stephen A wanted perfectly
I remember seeing Will Cain the first time and going "ooooh that's what you're here for" lol. Made for some entertaining TV tho
What’s wrong with Will Cain? What did he do? I have absolutely no idea, so hopefully someone can fill me in lol
@kaydonpitman7312 he's just another mouthpiece at Fox News now (not remotely surprised) and is just considered to be an all around clown.
@kaydonpitman7312 basically he was the conservative white foil to SAS. He's on Fox News now iirc. Nothing wrong with him just a role he played
Max the Columbia educated-one time rapper who can go from single hosting 2 shows in his 20’s and co-host HBO Boxing. That Max? SAS was thinking he was dealing with an Ivy League nepo baby when in fact he was dealing with that dude.
That Terrell Owens moment for many fans was like "EXACTLY!!!"
THIS!!! ALL FACTS 😂 T.O. literally was the only one who said on live TV what we all were saying lol
I’ll admit I wasn’t crazy about Max, but Stephen A definitely disrespected him often on the show and it’s messed up he’s bragging about getting him fired.
Yea that’s sum sucker rat type shit. Get someone fired then brag about it
@@jyoung8145 and he got such an ego it’s sad, I don’t watch him nowhere near as much these days
He legit thinks he’s Martin, his entire presence is based on being that character Martin played in the show as a radio talking head. Loud, thinks he’s a smooth talker, ect. Now he is just taking it to the extreme lol We all know this right?
@@JDCartier-pv4rr agreed that’s why I’m not crazy about him anymore. He’s a know it all and loud & dramatic for no reason, I legit would not be mad if he got cancelled.
How could you come to the conclusion that he's "bragging" about getting Max took off the show? He's simply giving insight on the situation since everyone wants to have an opinion and issue with what he did. Max wasn't even fired.
Max was from the culture bro... dude was a rapper back in the day. He also supports his arguments with actual facts.
He had just as many bad hot takes as SAS
@@antmyrick2063not on race issues which is the point here. He was always with the black culture on issues. Now his takes on sports is another story lol
Bro was too liberal
@@Ben2bwild No if that was the case he would have a different take on Kap
Exactly. I saw him guest host the Jim Rome show back in the day when Rome was still on ESPN. Best guest host Rome ever had. He gave a lesson on rims that day. 😂
Entertainer meets Educator. ❤ Wiley’s take is right on.
The best show I watched on ESPN about 8 years ago was sports nation. Marcellus, Max & Beadle had great chemistry. That show was entertaining!
I miss Max Kellerman. Dude was so knowledgeable
I watched that uninteresting show Max was on entitled Keyshawn, Max and J Will or something like that and felt Max was stuck on a show that ill served his talents. Clearly, he’s an intellectual who is mild mannered and polite. I always thought ESPN wanted him to muffle his personality to play down his intellectual side. Max’s brightness and civility would be better served at NPR or some public radio program where he isn’t required to shout above other voices or be impolite. There’s nothing wrong with an intelligent approach to sports programming and not everybody needs to bellow and shout over each other.
Espn is for entertaining max isn’t entertaining
@@AtribecalledsuccessMax is quite entertaining if you find anything else except for shouting matches entertaining.
@@eeshankumar1211 If he was espn would let him have another show since he’s still under contract
That show used to frustrate me because Max would say something that went over Keyshawns head and they would laugh at Max like he’s the idiot
@@dontaeshepard2199 90% of general human conversation would go over Keyshawn's head. He's the weakest link on any show he appears on....just constant dumb take after dumb take.
I remember Stuart Scott, great takes and could talk on many topics, no yelling,
I love Marcellus. Smart man and straight shooter
Wiley is only being outspoken because he is no longer working for any major network. He now gets the chance to take 25 minutes to answer a question that requires a 30 second answer. You can tell he enjoys gossiping about industry beefs.
You’ve told no lies. But, neither has Marcellus.
This is big facts!! He always enjoyed positioning himself as some authority over everything. And not having any pushback for anything he says has to feel like heaven to him.
Those are the things you can do when you’re, your own boss 🤷🏽♂️
I mean, he wasn't exactly lacking for outspokenness on TV. He just gets to go even deeper now.
" He now gets the chance to take 25 minutes to answer a question that requires a 30 second answer." We still have Lavar Arrington on Fox Sports Radio for that. Holy shit, I've never listented to a guy who, instead of going from point A to point B, decides to go for the "I'm in a giant corn maze" option of discourse more than him.
Marcellus is the best news broadcaster in sports industry right now, always facts and truth. I only follow him right now.
SCREAMIN A wanted Max to be Will Cain 😅😅😅😅
I think the main issue was like Dan said. Max wants to do nuance and Stephen A just can’t do that.
Nah the main issue was Stephen A couldn't make white people look like the devil when talking to Max. Nuance had nothing to do with it.
Stephen A wants to do WWE
I like Max even though I don't always agree with him. But the way he presented his arguments, I have nothing but respect for him. With Stephen A, the best I can do is "I'll respectfully disagree" and then ran like hell!😂
I believe they are correct and that in theory he wanted Will Cain type as a co-host cause he clash with Max and Stephen A on social and racial issues.
Rule #1 of business is don't make the boss look bad.
Stephen A wanted John Stockton. He got Jason “White Chocolate” Williams. Max didn’t do intellectual bounce passes. Instead, Max was doing intellectual elbow passes in the lane.
I really think it’s as simple as Stephen A not liking Max’s personality. Max wasn’t loud and bombastic enough. That’s why he has Mad Dog and Shannon now as featured cohost because they bring a little more too the table as far as personality.
ESPN used to have this real mature show that would come on back in the days, I think on Sunday’s called simply “the sports reporters” or something like that. They’d all sit around in a circle with a fireside chat type of format. They were real calm and mature on that show, almost like a 60 Minutes type of vibe. Max is better suited for a show like that. Maybe Max and Marcellus can use that type of format for a new show.
Stephen A is looking really bad in this situation. First how he talked about Max and now how he said he would "expose" TO. I think other people are going to overtake him. Pat Mac and Marcellus are much more interesting to listen to.
Max was amazing on local sports radio here in LA. He should come back
This is the first time I have listened to your show. Great Job! Really enjoyed it!
Will Cain's IQ surpasses this entire casts combined.
That’s funny 🤣
Will Cain catching a well deserved stray
First Take was a debate show. Why does SAS want Max out? cause SAS keeps on losing on the debates. Look at JWill and JJ, then Mad Dog. SAS just debate them out of the show. now he has Shannon. Because Shannon is a fan favorite, he will take it easy, but trust me SAS will do all his best to be the main character in his own world.
SAS will soon resent Shannon Sharpe because he is bringing higher ratings.
SAS hates intelligent white people, they need to be the devil and black people need to always appear as oppressed. That's the Stephen A. way. 😊
@@aidanwatson910Yeah JJ and Dan are idiots 😂😂. If Max was so good why didn't they keep his show
@@antmyrick2063 exactly. Because ESPN hates intelligence. Just ask Sage Steele.
Um jj isn't on anymore because basketball season is over. Pretty sure he'll be back once basketball starts again, nobody wants to here jj talk about football lol
If SAS ever thought a max would be right of him politically or the dumb clown, he clearly never listened to Max on the radio.
Ya I don't think the fallout was based on race issues like everybody says it's a sports show at the end of the day
Stephen A only rly knows basketball and having Max kinda emphasized this
Daymn Marcellus kept it one thóusand...and broke it all the way down! Daymn Stephen A I wasn't aware of this issue or your insecurities until I clicked on this video.
Notice that SAS hasn't responded to a single thing Marcellus said, not one word. Actions or lack of can speak so much louder than words
I MISSSSSS Marcellus from sports television. He was by far one of if not the smartest athlete they’ve ever had on these shows and he’s got charisma too. Wish he and Jason Whitlock still has their show because acho is horrific
Ayy, he has that TH-cam thing now though!
Stephen A keeps talking about Max, Max has been too classy to not clap back and eviscerate him.
Max and TO need to create their own podcast together
So TO can hate him too?
@@QUHectic212Would only be a matter of time. 😂
I saw the original video on the channel. It's really interesting to hear how people speak about Max, and assumptions made by SAS. I also have a degree in history, and consider myself fairly cultured, nothing near Max's level tho. I have the same political leanings as Max as well. It has put me in weird situations. It's nice to see Max get the support.
Everyone I talked to said the same! Wiley nailed it
i never understood why that didn't work out because MAX really help make the show for me...i was truly baffled when it fell apart
Amin did play Mike so well! Mike’s response is hilarious!
He cooked him 😂Amin was playing the Game of Thrones
Max is extremely smart. ESPN letting him go shows an extreme level of managerial incompetence.
Stephen A. not wanting him around, on the other hand, is not surprising at all.
Absolutely appeared that Max made Stephen A. uncomfortable at times, because Max not only empathized with black and social issues, he could at times, articulate them better than Stephen A.
I think everyone who followed First Take knows Wiley is absolutely right.
SAS can say that he wants a new partner. Fine. But dont mess with someone's livelihood by saying that the guy is unqualified, etc. That's ethically wrong especially if you did it to someone who didn't do anything wrong to you.
Great show man
Max could pull up to any cookout today and leave with a bag full of Tupperware AND the cutest cousin in the family.
Dan what do you mean haven’t heard a lot of people saying what Marcellus said…surely you mean nobody other than nearly the entire FirstTake fan base? Max routinely waxed SA’s ass in debates, often on sports topics and routinely on socio-political discussions. #TeamMax all the way. (& full disclosure…I’m black)
Stephen A’s ego was threatened, plain and simple.
max so good that he is unemployed. You should have watched his show 🤣
It really is fascinating how sports media views Will Cain as some rabid Newsmax type right wing guy just for being the one guy at ESPN who wouldn't follow a preset social narrative on these discussions. Guys like Dan can claim the reason he left ESPN is because he wanted honest uninhibited conversations, but all he really wanted was to build his own echo chamber. He is what he despises really.
Will Cain IS some rabid Newsmax type right wing guy lol
The hilarious thing is, SAS isn’t a black American, he’s from “the islands!”
Amin! One of the best... miss seeing him more often, especially during NBA season
I wish Dan could have finished his thought at the end.
What did Will Cain too? I legit have no idea, just realized I hadn’t seen him in a while. I hope we aren’t just hating on him because he’s on FOX now.
Max was too smart for SAS n he couldn't handle it. Plus Max schooled him on mma n boxing. I haven't watched first take in a very long time n probably won't. It's done. They have a revolving door of guests cuz SAS can't carry the show. Hope Max gets a shot at a bigger show. He definitely deserves it. Love these guys too.
Wow, he said he never heard anyone say this about SAS before Wiley said it. I’ve been commenting this ever since Max was taken off First Take and so has many others. 😂
Yeah I thought it what was happening was obvious while it was happening.
Went from Max Kellerman to a guy named MAD DOG lol
Marcellus was right love his podcast
Agree with everything but also ultimately means SAS made the right call
Marcellus is right. Stephen A wanted to bully someone on the show... and realized that he couldn't do that to Max.
Well...Wiley isn't wrong...But at the end of the day...It's SAS show....Period.
Yeah I do remember them trying to fit will cain on the show😂
As a black man, even though Nick Wright can be annoying against my 49ers, i agree with him and Max more than Stephen A in social issues , sports and as human beings period
Love Marcellus, i don't agree with everything he says, but he does speak truth, no matter how it will be viewed. White or black🤙🏾
When SAS started talking about MMA and Boxing and was exposed as not knowing shit about it and only really knowing about basketball and football, you knew he had to do something about it and get dumber people on that show to make him look smart.
Max was smarter, knew more about shorts, and out debated SAS with facts and logic. SAS ego couldn't handle it
This don't sound right, yall don't think he knew max was before the show?? It's not hard to see how intelligent max was from a single segment on ANY show he's on. Yall don't think he knew max was cultured,yall don't think he did his hw???
I take it back Arizona is not tanking
Need Amin & Patrick Beverley together for a interview
Stephen A is the first person to try to build a straw man and burned himself.
I always liked max . He just seems more normal . Dude used to rap come on people lmao dude is down to earth and he's not gonna hold his tongue . I can respect that
*ESPN got MAX on mute mode, per contract!*
This is spot on we love Max and Stephen A couldn’t do nothing with him!!!
Random this (I’m from UK so not up to speed…) what happened to Will Caine? What’s he doing now. Obviously I could just google but would rather hear opinions here….
Stephen A just didn't know who Max really was and i applaud Max for not changing.
There's a reason why SAS gets invited to Fox News 💀
Dam it's football season but these dudes keep talking about Stephen A? 😂😂😂
Max is too intelligent for sports debates with loud people. Crazy thing is he was right most of the time. Not on the "last shot"debate tho 😂😂😂
I understood exactly what he meant. Iggy was consistently good. He was dependable and reliable.
Everytime I mention "Will Caine" I have to spit immediately afterwards!!
When it came to sociopolitical issues or anything of that matter, Max was always on top
These guys all look so much different dressed casually
What’s wrong with Will Cain?
Ironically, Max gets all this love and admiration after getting replaced on First Take. All Max did was use liberal talking points that coddled black behavior and excuses. Black people are so busy speaking up and gassing Max up that they overlooked the fact that he was calling for Desaun Jackson’s job because of a tweet he posted about black people being the real Jews. It's a fact that black people are, by the way, and Max, the so-called history major, knows this, but this alludes to my point about all of this admiration he’s getting all of a sudden.
T.O. Told you how he feels about S.A. And he wasn’t wrong.
Marcellus is right. Max could express himself better on racial issues and that bothered Stephen A
Talk show hosts talking about talk show hosts talking about talk show hosts. Who needs to talk about sports?
why is Wiley breathing so damn hard lmao
That’s why Stephen A got Mad Dog instead. Fits the mode
For me Max made the show watchable, SAS is hard to take.
Dan you’re looking healthier. I see you lost some weight. Good for you 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🙌 keep it up.
Max was more progressive on Black issues than Steven A and that's bad for business. Any real Black Man won't be threatened by that.
I always knew who Will Cain was once he told me he was from Sherman,Texas. My family is from northeast Texas and southeast Oklahoma, and that’s some racist ass part of the country.
To be fair to Skip, he is straightforward when it comes to social issues.
He wanted Max to be Will Cain basically.
Will Cain was also much smarter than SAS.
All facts!!
In addition to Max just running circles on him, SAS isn't really a good mouthpiece for black America. This sounds a lot closer to him just thinking, "oh they will rock with anything I'll say because I'm black", effectively calling all of us too stupid to see what was going on. This is why it's always so easy for black folks to turn on him.