FISTS OF GORK - Slaanesh Beastmen vs. Grimgor's Rogue Idol - SFO Grimhammer - Total War Warhammer 2

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  • The Righteous FISTS OF GORK Grimgor Ironhide and Da Big Un Rogue Idol team up with a core of Black Orcs and the Krimson Killerz to take down the Beastmen of Slaanesh, led by a marked Doombull and an army of Slaangors on SFO Grimhammer. Let's see who has the strength and will to win in this battle between the Greenskins and the Beastmen on Total War Warhammer 2!
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  • @sirunklydunk8861
    @sirunklydunk8861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Beastmen and losing a sure fire win because of an inability to deal with Single Entities
    Name a more iconic duo

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      perhaps. gotta watch first

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Beastmen and having an absurd amount of ammo on their absurd mobs of centigor throwing axes to melt every last single entity in the game
      Name a more iconic due. Throwing axe centigors have been sleeper meta for a very long time.

    • @vw5661
      @vw5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@milkandcookiesTW Hey MikandcookiesTW, I enjoy your vids and wanted to ask you if you could mabye ask a modder you might know to make saurus units stand up striaght i would dearly appreciate it. and mabye some unqiue saurus units aswell idm :)
      thanks for the great content.

    • @MiguelSanchezDelVillar
      @MiguelSanchezDelVillar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Beastmen and not getting updates for 5 years

    • @ddenozor
      @ddenozor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it’s hard to imagine a better sem killer than gw minatours, but nobody’s using them.

  • @lathamtk
    @lathamtk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Glorious SFO battles! MOAR

  • @Busketroll
    @Busketroll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Accuracy is an actual mechanic in SFO, so beastmen firing into small Greenskin characters for large portion of the battle didn't do them any favours.

    • @Sir_Bucket
      @Sir_Bucket 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Isn't it a mechanic in the base game too? The whole point of the Gunnery Wight for the VC is to buff accuracy

    • @woagwoag
      @woagwoag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Sir_Bucket yeah but its set to the same number for basically everyone but coast and greenskins who have awful aim.

  • @QuestionableObject
    @QuestionableObject 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Grimgor didn't lose, he just got bored.

  • @darthplagueis13
    @darthplagueis13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Hot take: Units that cause terror themselves shouldn't have that contact effect. I'm only 50% opposed to it existing in general, but it should require you set up some kind of combination, not just a flat No-U that allows a terror causing monster to ignore ITP.
    You wouldn't implement a way to rout off unbreakable units either.

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Also hot take: Seeing Grimgor rout like this is a shameful display. The only time this lad ever left a battlefield where there possibly was still some fighting to be had was when he was super miffed, not because he was scared and if anyone had genuinely tried to attack him at that time, he would have butchered every last one of these Chaos Warriors and shoved Krom's head up his arse so far that even Slaanesh wouldn't have been able to find it anymore.

    • @rob5541
      @rob5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@darthplagueis13 he should be unbreakable

    • @QuestionableObject
      @QuestionableObject 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The immune to psych removing debuff is just a bandaid fix to a problem SFO created itself, that is over-using fear, terror and immune to psychology

    • @QuestionableObject
      @QuestionableObject 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@darthplagueis13 He just got bored and went to find another battle.

    • @aurtosebaelheim5942
      @aurtosebaelheim5942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@QuestionableObject I think it's more an issue with there being no real way to limit what fear and terror applies to. Like for instance, most monsters should be terror-causing to non-elite infantry, but single-entities and heroes shouldn't really be terror-routing from a hydra. But someone like Archon, Grimgor or Vlad should be terrifying to heroes and infantry alike.
      Fear and Terror are very all-or-nothing, so the solutions tend to be clumsy. If we had, say, Terror 1-5 and Psychology Resistance 1-5 it would be easier to fine-tune what could scare what. I realise that leadership somewhat fills this role (units can't rout about 1/2 leadership?), but it's too open to outside manipulation (like a hero suddenly becoming deathly afraid of a Varghulf because some pikemen near him are dying to skeletons).

  • @Warhero1171
    @Warhero1171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Rogue Idol animation where it holds it's head up in the air is one of my favorite animations of any unit.

  • @potato13holiday4
    @potato13holiday4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Yeah grimgor is a beast in SFO, he solo’d an 800 weapon strength Karl Franz and vet 9 halberdiers after I smashed a hole in one of their cities. Then an arch lector wounded grimgor with a hammer to the head. Awesome game.

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And then this guy just ran away when there was still smashing to be had. smh.

    • @Sir_Bucket
      @Sir_Bucket 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah but his leadership is wack

    • @potato13holiday4
      @potato13holiday4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrwhosaskin179 agreed, however trying to storm a breach and he is right there is just asking for an epic showdown which Franz lost unfortunately and to my surprise honestly. Keep in mind he was on force march and I had been shelling the city for nearly 30 minutes (I love mortars and war wagons with mortars) which goes to show how much of a tank he is.

    • @Grivehn
      @Grivehn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrwhosaskin179 To be fair, human lords are overtuned as well. In SFO, too. I can show picture where not Louen himself, but his goddamn paladin too, had better stats than the Bloodthirster LORD of SFO. Better weapon str, melee attack, defense and leadership. Idk wtf noname characters are doing with weapon strength around 1k. In vanilla, thats Kholek and I think he needs his levels and items for that, too. Everyone else has to cheese to get that powerful with Sword of Khaine and more. Even for Louen and Karl its a stretch I feel like.

  • @mariovillalobos8604
    @mariovillalobos8604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fact that slangores doesn't have 69 speed seems like a missed opportunity

  • @JFW243
    @JFW243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another SFO Video, awesome! This is always one of the fastest clicks I do in my subbox. :)

  • @insultinsultan705
    @insultinsultan705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Sorry Zach, gotta vote for the WAAAGH! in this one :^P

    • @zacharysain8516
      @zacharysain8516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Noooooooooo mine own followers betray me

  • @zacharysain8516
    @zacharysain8516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey ggs man, it’s soo dumb that grimgor routed there, but anyways really really fun to use marked chaotic units and really got me thirsting for warhammer 2

    • @ghorstbusters6238
      @ghorstbusters6238 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Warhammer 3? You can slake your thirst for WH2 whenever you want.

  • @Loalrikowki
    @Loalrikowki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fists of Gork?
    Slaanesh says the fisting of Gork.

  • @ALividPileofDirt
    @ALividPileofDirt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can't do this to me, Indy. Thought someone had actually modded Gordrakk and/or Ironjawz in for a moment there.

  • @fancifulbread8040
    @fancifulbread8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    WAAAAAAGHHH FOR THE WAGGGGGHHHHH GOD

  • @Eaon69
    @Eaon69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oddly enough, I eat cookies with milk when I watch milkandcookiesTW. A nice evening.

  • @raynightshade8317
    @raynightshade8317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    YES more sfo

  • @Khorothis
    @Khorothis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The double entendre ridden commentary pleases Slaanesh. And me too.

  • @Kragnar1
    @Kragnar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A foot of gork would have done very well on those blobs of archers.

  • @Cptbravo221
    @Cptbravo221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damm so this is what it feels like to go against Jaghatai Khan. Impressive use of the beastmen

    • @TCStink3
      @TCStink3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *ULTRA RAPID DEPLOYMENT INTENSIFIES*

  • @lukastroller3730
    @lukastroller3730 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ODST music plus black orc armies. Two of my favourite things ❤

  • @barackobama1625
    @barackobama1625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let us not forget the unit of slanngors that took two full units of ork boar boy cav with waaagh popped and beat them back and chased them off lol.

  • @chosenofkhorne2951
    @chosenofkhorne2951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They should also have some more powerful weapons if they want to survive the campaign those poor beastmen

  • @yuzuftazimo2157
    @yuzuftazimo2157 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that Rogue Idol is too op

  • @Cpt0bviouss
    @Cpt0bviouss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    do slaangors have... no, i must be seeing things.

  • @killscribe
    @killscribe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am looking forward to doing a WAAAAAGH into the chaos realm!

  • @Wildboy789789
    @Wildboy789789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive been thru it a million times, king louen at 70% hp routing surrounded by skeletons... i wish theyd cut the army losses bs

  • @revanliviar1239
    @revanliviar1239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like grimgor should have unbreakable leadership

  • @steamless7862
    @steamless7862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That’s so dumb how Grimgor ironhide this astonished warrior would route to some weak best men chafe with no leader

  • @awashmanager853tag2
    @awashmanager853tag2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you bro but when the beasty boyzzz get a W you gots to show 'em some love

  • @steamless7862
    @steamless7862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:40 watch the rogue idol seismic clap away hundreds of got herd!

  • @themallardduck1647
    @themallardduck1647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    did the Fist of Gork flip the beastmen off when it died?

  • @ruohaoli7503
    @ruohaoli7503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry Indy, but at the first glance I was thinking about “Fisting of Gork”

  • @shastasilverchairsg
    @shastasilverchairsg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Body over mind for Grimgor huh

  • @leroykid1971
    @leroykid1971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    GG

  • @Omjegasian
    @Omjegasian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who would win: SFO grimhammer or End Times mod? Seriously wondering Which u prefer tho.

  • @kacper.1326
    @kacper.1326 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As much as I dislike TW Warhammer melee fight animations, it was actually funny watching ungors headbutting heavily armored black orks with their tiny horns.

  • @ddenozor
    @ddenozor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    feels like javelin and throwing axe units have too much ammunition. where do they put all that stuff

  • @goldman6506
    @goldman6506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Odst in the background lol

  • @brucerobinson5405
    @brucerobinson5405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love slaangors

  • @anguar5047
    @anguar5047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is that Halo Reach i can hear? it fits :D

    • @chrisspink8873
      @chrisspink8873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ODST

    • @funkemonke8084
      @funkemonke8084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We're The Desperate Measures, from ODST, plays at the holdout in the NMPD HQ level.

  • @joshpeck9266
    @joshpeck9266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish I had a 3080 lol. Stuck here with a 90 watt 2070 max q lol 😂

  • @lovrosedej7655
    @lovrosedej7655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im just going to write that one off as a Greenskins W, they did Grimgor dirty with the game balance smh

  • @CoolSmoovie
    @CoolSmoovie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thematic Army > Meta Army

  • @caligula6778
    @caligula6778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its kinda anticlimactic to see a slaangore pull out

  • @Blah64
    @Blah64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Grimgor iz da best

  • @asianboy969
    @asianboy969 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eh? How cannon are the chaos follower of Beast men I can understand Khorne to be the cannon one because they just mindless beast butchering people and eat them
    Slanesh, Tzeench and Nurgle?

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      they are all canon. Tzaangors and Slaangors even have their own model range for AoS and 40k, and they existed in Fantasy as well

  • @zehaha111
    @zehaha111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still think even in SFO Grimgor is a weak lord. He has still the same problem as in the base game. Not enough support. His Waagh isn't that special. His abilities aren't interesting either. He should at least support and buff units like Black Orcs, Big Uns, Orc Boar Boy Big Uns and Orc Boyz in ways, that turns the big orcs into different beasts. These kind of units should be completely different beasts if they're lead by Grimgor in comparison to for example Skarsnik. For example getting something like perfect vigour for a time. Or becoming completely immune to fear and terror. Giving his big orc unit more armor and / or more missile resistance, as Grimgors Army is probably not much into missile troops. More of a Khorne like theme. Beat the shit out of them in melee. The big orcs in Grimgors Waagh should grow quite faster and become stronger compared to other Waaaghs. Which isn't really reflected, even in SFO. Skarsnik on the other should probably buff any kind of Night Goblin and Squiggs into monsters other Orc Legendary Lords cannot.
    But so far even in SFO Grimgor is just waddling axe that can't really catch much. He should probably have some kind of berserker ability, getting tankier and hitting harder the more hp he loses and the hotter the fight gets. This way he can still waddle, but the enemy will probably be forced to face him in melee eventually, which should be ugly. Him routing to something like army losses looks extremely weird as well, although i can understand that game mechanics have to be respected at the end.
    Overall, bringing mobility against these slow Black Orcs will always be beneficial. This Slaanbull being able to rout units that are immune to psychology is just stupid though. Very weird decision to give him that kind of ability. Either a unit is immune to psychology or it is not.

  • @stethespaniard2
    @stethespaniard2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The idol bothers me. It’s a hard counter to everything vampires have and beastmen struggle a lot too. One unit shouldn’t be able to counter an army

  • @QuestionableObject
    @QuestionableObject 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not 69 speed

  • @user-iz9oe7ht6z
    @user-iz9oe7ht6z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hate AoS ork design so much

    • @orpheonkatakrosmortarchoft4332
      @orpheonkatakrosmortarchoft4332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Those are warhammer fantasy orks.

    • @realname8362
      @realname8362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it's literally just an orc with some yellow painted metal strapped on lol, what are you complaining about? orc/goblin designs are barely even changed at all in aos, half the models for orcs are just whfb ones that didn't need updates.

    • @skepsisrollins1711
      @skepsisrollins1711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      AoS Bad!!!