He had to say something.. The story wasn’t vanishing, it was in all the media, the channels all over the internet. It was time to address it so we can move forward.
Depends on what you get in return. And on what you do with what you get. If they get 1 for 1 assets back, or futures they flip for replacement assets, then no, it's a retool. If they get futures and run with them, and make other moves involving aging players, then yeah, it's a full rebuild.
You’re probably right, but even if all three leave, a rebuild could possibly be avoided if: There’s a decent return for Petey, in particular a solid top two centre plus other assets, and Miller brings in useable assets, and Boeser also brings in worthy assets, and Lekkerimaki develops into the winger that management envisions as a replacement for Boeser, and Management is able to turn all these worthwhile assets into another top one or two centre plus a top four defenceman, and….. I’ll stop now.
There are two Vancouver-New Jersey scenarios out there that make sense. The first is JT Miller for Mercer, Bastian, & Tartar plus a pick. Vancouver gets 3 forwards for one. The second is Miller plus a pick/prospect for Nemec & Palat. Vancouver gets a forward & defenseman If you trade Pettersson to Buffalo, you can get back Dylan Couzens and Byram Bowan. Vancouver gets a decent center & a defenseman. That might be considered a retool.
This puts the blame on the players, not the management group in the court of public opinion. (I think thats the reason he's doing this) Also, wonder why petey was so hard to get signed last year? Not anymore.
The best bet is to trade pettersson to buffalo for the rumoured package of cozens and byram plus prospect or pick. Extreme upgrade on defence and cozens could thrive witha change of scenery. Keeps the canucks playoff relevant and then you figure out what to do boeser
I don't know if anybody saw the Garland interview after their last game.. but J.T. walked right in the middle of his post game interview. You can tell Garland doesn't like J.T...
Wouldn't it be hilarious if after Rutherford aired this confirmation of what we all already knew, if that leads to a bunch of offers for Pettersson and Miller and they can maybe ship one or the other or both off after a bidding war for them as teams all of the sudden want these top players who are now known under no uncertain terms to be available? I know that's not likely, but life has a way of being ironic sometimes. Then everyone will all be going on about what a genius move that was and acting as if they knew it would ramp up the trade market all along...
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Why enlist Miller to give Petey tough love? that has to be one of the dumbest questions ever asked. Because the tough love worked, Petey went from 68 to 102 points, that's why.
If you think elite athletes need "motivation", think again. These are self motivated guys. When a player like Miller shows hypocrisy, it is a huge problem, though.
@@matsinilsson9578 You don't have to believe me. Allvin questioned Petey's maturity and preparation 3 weeks ago in public. What do think he was doing? Sure sounds like he was trying to motivate Petey.
@@nerinamak3298 Hehehe, do you know where Patrik is from and the likelihood that he does not understand a star player's mentality (EP40), especially from this part of the world? Trust me, there is zero chance and they also converse in S.w.e.d.i.s.h. So: Miller has overstepped any given (probably from Tocchet) and/or self-conceived (more likely) role. It is simply hypocritical at his level and Miller has mishandled any kind of mentorship role. From the hypocrisy standpoint: The most important part of this is the career production in points. Per minute. Who is better? And then there is the age. Who is younger? Then there is the ceiling. Who has higher ceiling? Who shuts up? EP would never listen to a guy like Miller. Anyone would and should understand this. I swear, Miller needs a major attitude adjustment. I don't care that much personally, but if I was EP40 holy motha'....sparks would be flying.... As a coach I would have drained him and overtrained him. Miller would be crying.
i give props to miller...he has been playing like he can play and produce at a consistent level...but we need petey to be a 12 mil player. And thats why Miller is upset. Guaranteed if Petey played like a 12 mil player there would be no problems...but petey is being a diva and being invisible playing like a 4 mil forward...Garland has a bigger impact than a 12 mil player
What a moronic comment. You don't understand professionalism in elite sports, what drives elite players/athletes, and what is hypocrisy vs not. JT Miller needs to pay. I would have bullied him so hard if I was on this team.
@@nbooi But only one of them has 1 point per game in their career, an upside, and has expressed that he wants to stay. EP40. Miller simply does not care.
@matsinilsson9578 I would keep Petey as his game seemed to improve a lot when Miller took his ball and went home. That said. The only untouchable player is Hughes. Whoever brings the best return is who i think should go.
How much of this entire situation is Rutherford and how much of it Frank Aquilini telling his managers to sign guys HE likes, damn the money or other stuff. Aquilini has spent more than a decade sticking his nose into the running of the franchise, why should he have stopped a year ago?
What, exactly, has JT Miller done to deserve top pay? He’s taken an extended Leave Of Absence, plays with a half-assed effort half of the time he plays. He doesn’t back check, and he’s not doing much to keep his opinions quiet. I don’t know, I’d like to see Miller get out of Vancouver without the door hitting his a$$ on the way out.
Ya another nothing burger. Nothing i didn't tell yall at least 100 times. Taking a bag a pucks and a pack of smokes is a non starter for Petey and Milsy. The real trade is Boeser coming soon.
No way we started with a 9/11 reference, I'm dead lmao
Guess Jim didn't know that JT apologized to Elias and told him he was wrong how he treated him. All is forgiven!
He had to say something.. The story wasn’t vanishing, it was in all the media, the channels all over the internet. It was time to address it so we can move forward.
Now it's really out there lol
If you trade two of Miller, Petey and Boeser there is no ''retool'' it will be a rebuild.
Depends on what you get in return. And on what you do with what you get. If they get 1 for 1 assets back, or futures they flip for replacement assets, then no, it's a retool. If they get futures and run with them, and make other moves involving aging players, then yeah, it's a full rebuild.
@@Seriously_Unserious true
You’re probably right, but even if all three leave, a rebuild could possibly be avoided if:
There’s a decent return for Petey, in particular a solid top two centre plus other assets, and
Miller brings in useable assets, and
Boeser also brings in worthy assets, and
Lekkerimaki develops into the winger that management envisions as a replacement for Boeser, and
Management is able to turn all these worthwhile assets into another top one or two centre plus a top four defenceman, and…..
I’ll stop now.
There are two Vancouver-New Jersey scenarios out there that make sense. The first is JT Miller for Mercer, Bastian, & Tartar plus a pick. Vancouver gets 3 forwards for one. The second is Miller plus a pick/prospect for Nemec & Palat. Vancouver gets a forward & defenseman If you trade Pettersson to Buffalo, you can get back Dylan Couzens and Byram Bowan. Vancouver gets a decent center & a defenseman. That might be considered a retool.
THEN WE NEED IT!!! Brock is not worth 8x8!!! Petey is too soft... JT is toxic... throw in Hronek too
This puts the blame on the players, not the management group in the court of public opinion. (I think thats the reason he's doing this) Also, wonder why petey was so hard to get signed last year? Not anymore.
The best bet is to trade pettersson to buffalo for the rumoured package of cozens and byram plus prospect or pick. Extreme upgrade on defence and cozens could thrive witha change of scenery. Keeps the canucks playoff relevant and then you figure out what to do boeser
ive been thinking it could cozens power a 2nd and prospect
Can the Rangers just borrow him to roast the locker room...like a demotivational speaker?
I don't know if anybody saw the Garland interview after their last game.. but J.T. walked right in the middle of his post game interview. You can tell Garland doesn't like J.T...
Wouldn't it be hilarious if after Rutherford aired this confirmation of what we all already knew, if that leads to a bunch of offers for Pettersson and Miller and they can maybe ship one or the other or both off after a bidding war for them as teams all of the sudden want these top players who are now known under no uncertain terms to be available? I know that's not likely, but life has a way of being ironic sometimes. Then everyone will all be going on about what a genius move that was and acting as if they knew it would ramp up the trade market all along...
a no win situation. it's either they never tell anyone what's going on. when they do....gee, i don't think they helped the situation by saying that.
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How this team does not have a sports psychologist is the same reason we will never get a cup. This is really rudimentary stuff.
Why enlist Miller to give Petey tough love? that has to be one of the dumbest questions ever asked. Because the tough love worked, Petey went from 68 to 102 points, that's why.
If you think elite athletes need "motivation", think again. These are self motivated guys. When a player like Miller shows hypocrisy, it is a huge problem, though.
@@matsinilsson9578 You don't have to believe me. Allvin questioned Petey's maturity and preparation 3 weeks ago in public. What do think he was doing? Sure sounds like he was trying to motivate Petey.
@@nerinamak3298 Hehehe, do you know where Patrik is from and the likelihood that he does not understand a star player's mentality (EP40), especially from this part of the world? Trust me, there is zero chance and they also converse in S.w.e.d.i.s.h. So: Miller has overstepped any given (probably from Tocchet) and/or self-conceived (more likely) role. It is simply hypocritical at his level and Miller has mishandled any kind of mentorship role.
From the hypocrisy standpoint: The most important part of this is the career production in points. Per minute. Who is better? And then there is the age. Who is younger? Then there is the ceiling. Who has higher ceiling? Who shuts up? EP would never listen to a guy like Miller. Anyone would and should understand this.
I swear, Miller needs a major attitude adjustment. I don't care that much personally, but if I was EP40 holy motha'....sparks would be flying.... As a coach I would have drained him and overtrained him. Miller would be crying.
Jim means that many teams would like to take advantages of the current situation by offering peanuts to the canucks.
i give props to miller...he has been playing like he can play and produce at a consistent level...but we need petey to be a 12 mil player. And thats why Miller is upset. Guaranteed if Petey played like a 12 mil player there would be no problems...but petey is being a diva and being invisible playing like a 4 mil forward...Garland has a bigger impact than a 12 mil player
Miller been upset with petterson since joining the team from Tampa. It's more to it than the 11 million.
What a moronic comment. You don't understand professionalism in elite sports, what drives elite players/athletes, and what is hypocrisy vs not. JT Miller needs to pay. I would have bullied him so hard if I was on this team.
@asaraphym802 neither one is playing up to their contracts this season.
@@nbooi But only one of them has 1 point per game in their career, an upside, and has expressed that he wants to stay. EP40. Miller simply does not care.
@matsinilsson9578 I would keep Petey as his game seemed to improve a lot when Miller took his ball and went home. That said. The only untouchable player is Hughes.
Whoever brings the best return is who i think should go.
do it in the off season
miller just got traded to columbus , crazy lol
Trade them all Benning players 11 lefted on the team ,Hughes lefted alone on the island 🏝
The Canucks are about to go Kaboom lol
Trade both EP40 and JT now, sign Mikko Rantanen in summer!!
Can we trade Rutherford?
How much of this entire situation is Rutherford and how much of it Frank Aquilini telling his managers to sign guys HE likes, damn the money or other stuff. Aquilini has spent more than a decade sticking his nose into the running of the franchise, why should he have stopped a year ago?
Call a spade a spade folks. JT Miller needs to pay for what he has done.
What, exactly, has JT Miller done to deserve top pay? He’s taken an extended Leave Of Absence, plays with a half-assed effort half of the time he plays. He doesn’t back check, and he’s not doing much to keep his opinions quiet. I don’t know, I’d like to see Miller get out of Vancouver without the door hitting his a$$ on the way out.
@@frufru0071 Hahahaha, actually it was a spelling mistake. Can you guess which letter is wrong. Kind of funny actually. I agree with you
DIABOLICAL INTRO
It's called damage control
HUGHES needs Garland if everyone traded Benning inherited players not the new team Alvin's just rusty Benning core players
Miller & petey ain’t goin anywhere
omg just trade one of them already!!! jeeeeez lol
Ya another nothing burger. Nothing i didn't tell yall at least 100 times. Taking a bag a pucks and a pack of smokes is a non starter for Petey and Milsy. The real trade is Boeser coming soon.