@@hellraiser420 So you’re rooting FOR a player that doesn’t end up that good, and bc of that, that’s detrimental to THEM? Who’s the numbnuts bc it sure asl not me. And I wasn’t even being a dick, what was said truly didn’t make sense and was a mistake. All it was
The whole Westley Johnson being a development assistant can work in a weird way - he didn't develop himself so he'd know what wouldn't work and what we would need to do differently
If Giannis hadn’t developed, it would’ve been real rough for us Bucks fans. Finally got a top pick and his ACL was made of glass. The only upside was that it gave Khris more minutes.
Big Jabari and Jahlil fan and i am still to this day ,whenever i think about them, pretty bummed about how their careers have turned out so far. They seemed special back then and i know deep down they still have a lot in the tank. I just hope nba teams see that too...
10:25 I’ve only changed my shot form once because I always flicked the ball with my thumb off the guide hand. Once I changed the form it made me a better all around shooter but it dramatically killed my range on shots. Exactly why I never looked into changing it again after
How could Thon Maker not just be like a bench 4 or something. Like if he can shoot/take it off the dribble just put him in the corner and then he’s gonna block shots on the other end as a help defender? There has to be other issues w Thon
Should be mentioned there was that whole scandal that Thon was like a 24 year old in high-school and just dominated and lied. Doesn't mean he couldn't play at all. Maybe slightly like Manute Bol where we just didn't know his age and kinda got scammed.
On this years current gen, no lie, i saw Jabari Parker was an 87, i didnt even do anything to him at all just after a few years of simulating he was an 87
Around this time the Suns thought having a 3-rotation of guards that were borderline all star caliber (at the time) was a good idea: Bledsoe, Thomas and Dragic Then they figured out that didn’t work out and then got Devin Booker after that
Jabari was good when healthy, and looked better after the first ACL injury. but the second one did him in, and he was actually developing along side giannis and brogdon. you guys have had a very underrated and under appreciated young core
I get asked advice on stuff like this bc everyone knows i know my shit when it comes to film music and sports history. I like to give the benefit of the doubt alot times especially in todays era guys have one bad week and they get cut i dont feel like they get the chance to improve in some cases. In the time we live in now im 22 and i cant stand some my age and how negative they are instead of listening and being there. then get mad some my age our real and get it then some are childish but yanno they'll get there karma. Most times i leave the overly dramatic declarations to first take..
one could argue that his skill in player development for himself is what lead him to where he was in the first place, but his natural talent just wasn't there.
Okafor couldn't give you a clean 15 points. He averaged over 11 once in his career and it was his rookie season. He couldn't shoot midrange or outside at all, not even enough to be respected by defenders like good modern bigs of his time, and he was a hack-a-shaq liability from the line. At the absolute best you could say he was average for a center from 5 feet.
Legit question A top 5 lottery pick in the NBA , not a star, no all nba team, no all star appearance, literally no achievements, but he have a 10+ year career and was a starter/contributor for most of the years to the team do you consider him a bust?
As a knicks fan I'm really staring to feel that way about rj barrett I thought he was gonna be really good but is soo inconsistent to the point where one he show something special next day it looks like he's looks like a nah nba player
Do a what if video where you put players in a draft that were busts or got injured young and their careers kinda fell off like Grant Hill, Penny, D Rose, Jabari, Oden, Roy and so on.
Grant hills career didn't "fall off", he wasn't the same after injuries but he still played for 19 years. In fact he was pretty healthy in his later years with the Suns.
“the deception of rooting for a player that doesn’t end up that good because that might be the most detrimental thing to a human since … crack”
This really what you do
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@@silversoulken no, its for, numb nuts
@@hellraiser420 So you’re rooting FOR a player that doesn’t end up that good, and bc of that, that’s detrimental to THEM? Who’s the numbnuts bc it sure asl not me. And I wasn’t even being a dick, what was said truly didn’t make sense and was a mistake. All it was
Can’t believe they called Kobe “Bean” “Black Mamba” “Soft like Charmin” “Raps in 6” “Crying Jordan Face” Bryant a bust smh.
Ikr
The whole Westley Johnson being a development assistant can work in a weird way - he didn't develop himself so he'd know what wouldn't work and what we would need to do differently
I was thinking the same thing we learn more from our mistakes than our successes
i was thinking this exact same thing, read my mind
Bro the natural sarcasm in your voice is too hilarious.
Mike Muscala catching strays out here lololol
The people need a Jabari Parker/Giannis Antetokounmpo teammate sim for what could have been
If Giannis hadn’t developed, it would’ve been real rough for us Bucks fans. Finally got a top pick and his ACL was made of glass. The only upside was that it gave Khris more minutes.
Big Jabari and Jahlil fan and i am still to this day ,whenever i think about them, pretty bummed about how their careers have turned out so far. They seemed special back then and i know deep down they still have a lot in the tank. I just hope nba teams see that too...
Bro sounded like LeBron when he said he knew MKG was gonna be a bust
jabari not amounting to what he was suppose to in the nba hurts. i grew up watching him at a highschool basketball tournament and he was insane
I was watching the G League get torched by Chris Chiozza when you reminded me to like the video
the not finding your shot form part is so true i swear my jumper is never the same when i hoop
Jabari would've been an All-Star caliber player but injuries got him bad. Damn.
Fr 🤦🏾♂️
10:25 I’ve only changed my shot form once because I always flicked the ball with my thumb off the guide hand. Once I changed the form it made me a better all around shooter but it dramatically killed my range on shots. Exactly why I never looked into changing it again after
How could Thon Maker not just be like a bench 4 or something. Like if he can shoot/take it off the dribble just put him in the corner and then he’s gonna block shots on the other end as a help defender? There has to be other issues w Thon
Exactly
10:50 is real. I used to go out in my backyard and shoot like D’Angelo Russell cause imma lefty lmao
Treese is always super underrated, hopefully we will see more reactions from him
I agree with clique about imitating a players jumper
Raymond Felton is the goat
Should be mentioned there was that whole scandal that Thon was like a 24 year old in high-school and just dominated and lied. Doesn't mean he couldn't play at all. Maybe slightly like Manute Bol where we just didn't know his age and kinda got scammed.
What clique said about jabari Parker is something that I also do every day while playing basketball, never pretended to be or shoot like jabari
I had some Emmanuel Mudiay under armor shoes that I wore to hoop in 😂 they were dope I found them at Ross. Then they got stole from the locker room
Love the pod by the way you guys funny 
I ain't gonna lie I did have a period at like 12 where I had seen Larry bird clips and started shooting like him for like a year and it used to be wet
On this years current gen, no lie, i saw Jabari Parker was an 87, i didnt even do anything to him at all just after a few years of simulating he was an 87
Clique do a sim where Okc gets drose in 2008 and the bulls get russ👀
Can't wait for the Dwight Howard vs Anthony Bennett match up in Taiwan
I feel if Thon Maker was 6’6-6’7 he still would be in the league, him being a footer kind of screwed him over.
Around this time the Suns thought having a 3-rotation of guards that were borderline all star caliber (at the time) was a good idea: Bledsoe, Thomas and Dragic
Then they figured out that didn’t work out and then got Devin Booker after that
The way jahlils name is spelled in the chapters lol
as a bucks fan i love what our franchise has done obviously but i wish jabari coulda been the guy that we thought he was gonna be
Jabari was good when healthy, and looked better after the first ACL injury. but the second one did him in, and he was actually developing along side giannis and brogdon. you guys have had a very underrated and under appreciated young core
Did we ever get a straight answer on how old Thon Maker was 😂
I get asked advice on stuff like this bc everyone knows i know my shit when it comes to film music and sports history. I like to give the benefit of the doubt alot times especially in todays era guys have one bad week and they get cut i dont feel like they get the chance to improve in some cases. In the time we live in now im 22 and i cant stand some my age and how negative they are instead of listening and being there. then get mad some my age our real and get it then some are childish but yanno they'll get there karma. Most times i leave the overly dramatic declarations to first take..
9:53 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
one could argue that his skill in player development for himself is what lead him to where he was in the first place, but his natural talent just wasn't there.
Okafor couldn't give you a clean 15 points. He averaged over 11 once in his career and it was his rookie season. He couldn't shoot midrange or outside at all, not even enough to be respected by defenders like good modern bigs of his time, and he was a hack-a-shaq liability from the line. At the absolute best you could say he was average for a center from 5 feet.
tbf is Okafor was born like 10 years earlier he’d prolly be a multi time all star
yo
do u got the sapphire frank card in myteam
Lauri nice asl once he had a chance to develop
We need to see this man ball.
Legit question
A top 5 lottery pick in the NBA , not a star, no all nba team, no all star appearance, literally no achievements, but he have a 10+ year career and was a starter/contributor for most of the years to the team
do you consider him a bust?
Mudiay had a crazy 78 ovr card in the nba live mobile. He didn't miss
I clicked on the video faster than my dad left
Jabari was so tuff
Hello Clique this is Kemba Walker tell the Knicks to pick me back up and I will guarantee play better than quickly
I'm right here.
killian hayes reminds me of mudiay
Do a top 10 draft busts simulation (99 potential obviously)
And I have never found my shot form either I’m 20
As a knicks fan I'm really staring to feel that way about rj barrett I thought he was gonna be really good but is soo inconsistent to the point where one he show something special next day it looks like he's looks like a nah nba player
Another banger
Man I wanted thon to be good he was so fun to play with in myteam
Yessir I try to shoot exactly like curry sometimes just because he’s the goat shooter so who else to copy lol
Do a what if video where you put players in a draft that were busts or got injured young and their careers kinda fell off like Grant Hill, Penny, D Rose, Jabari, Oden, Roy and so on.
Grant hills career didn't "fall off", he wasn't the same after injuries but he still played for 19 years. In fact he was pretty healthy in his later years with the Suns.
@@calebangell77 oh I know he was def still a great player but i still think people expected him to be a superstar competing for MVPs.
MCW?
Marvin bagley
Jabari ain’t a bust
The Knicks suck foh 😭🤣✌🏿
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