3 years VW Id.3 - What VW did wrong!
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You are too kind to VW. They screwed a lot of customers (both you and me included). We were lied to. There's no other way of putting it.
IMAGINE THAT! QUELLE SURPRISE!!! DIESELGATE DIESELGATEDIESELGATE DIESELGATE - COMPANY PLANNED TO SCREW BUYERS AND LEGISLATORS by constructing a complicated software that RECOGNIZED EMISSIONS TEST CONDITIONS AND REPLACE SOFTWARE VALUES BY MODIFIED VALUES THAT FAKED EMISSIONS _ yes they cant make e-up replacement and now in CROATIA YOU CAN BUY NEW id.3 with 12 000 EUROS DISCOUNT and 19 000 EUROS DISCOUNT ON id4. Are we EUROPEANS or SOVIETS??!!?
Even with older volkswagens, they had some app with their car to see status info. They just said after a while, yes we stop this service. Done boom. Like that. That is a bit of a bad move, that person had too much bad experience with volkswagen now drives a Tesla Model Y by the way... funny enough.
I bought my ID.3 Business 58kWh in Nov. 2020 (no 1st) with ACC, Matrix LED, heated seats and steering wheel, backup camera and heatpump for 32.000EUR (after govt. subsidies). I had not a single issue with the car so far! And after 45000km it still drives as if it was new. The perfect car for my needs. Nowadays I would have to invest 45.000EUR for the same car. THIS IS TOO MUCH VW. I would not buy it for this price!
I bought an ID.3 about 2.5 years ago, planning to keep it as long as it runs. I agree with many of your points, although for me personally, they are not a problem. I finally got the 3.2 update (took three days at the dealer...) and everything is working fine. I don't need any of the new features that the newer cars get, but I can understand the frustration people have with the way VW has handled the situation. It really feels like they didn't think things through and rushed the car out.
This is a very good point. I had a model three Tesla back in 2019, and compared to today. The trains formation through over the air updates has been astonishing, but I just take this thing for granted! I wonder how many other manufacturers have finally got OTA right?
You absolutely nailed it.
Still love the car after 2,5 years, but completely lost respect for VW’s business model of not protecting existing customers “investment”.
show me company who cares for that? Whitch manufacturer thinks of that?
Welcome to the world of subscriptions, people are ok with changing their phone every year, so car manufacturers want the same here.
@@AntodyVW is charging anything but subscription prices when they SELL cars👆
So you are presenting a pseudo comment in my humble opinion
I visited my local VW dealer in Sept 2021 looking for my first EV, they had a standard range ID3 and a 77kw long range, I asked prices and was told both cars were sold, they had no stock and no idea when they would have or what the prices would then be. The salesman then just walked away, he did me a favour as on way home I popped in the Kia garage and an ENiro in steel grey was parked outside. It had everything I wanted and one was avail in the same colour in 3 weeks so I ordered it. 2 years later and it has never missed a beat everything just works. In summer it does 290-315miles on a charge and winter 260/270. The app has many functions and I use the hvac often to cool it remotely in summer and Defrost it in winter. There is also room under the boot floor for a full size spare wheel.
Glad that it worked out for you! And that you are happy with your car!
I was at VW this month and was very disappointed. It was clear salesman did not care about EVs (we took 30 min drive).
KIA? Different story! Coffee, cakes, happy salesman who showed me everything what is in car (Alsol eNiro), what features it had. But I still like ID.3 most (and Tesla 3) and since I need about 1 year more to save enough money ... they have time to improve! But Niro was really good ride :)
I can fully subscribe to your words Chris. Also for me after nearly 3 years I’m still loving my ID.3. Little bit sad to hand it back but also really looking forward for my ID.5 Refresh to be delivered 😍👍🏼
I agree with your points and yes it is sad for us that VW does make so fast changes to the car in a relatively short time. But that is developement and I cannot say something bad about it.
But 1 important thing is more than NOT OKAY: This way to slow computer hardware in our car.
That was a very bad "saving too many cents" decicion in the first run. Today the ID3 has still this too slow computer inside until next year with the next facelift. VW should offer an upgrade of this computer system inside the car - not for free - but for a price that does not make extra money for VW, because here they really failed at the customer and my picture of VW is still harmed in a big way.
This part is the reason for not getting future updates, not getting new software features including a button to start battery heating for fast charging.
Therefore I have a 3 year OLD electric car @home.
For that reason I am still not recommending anyone to buy a new VW and myself will not buy one, too.
Sadly the only way beeing heard by the management is not giving this big company our hard earned money.
Here in the UK, the facelift model does not get back. Click buttons below the centre console, even though that is the most complained about thing, probably the easiest to fix? These pesky customers….
Thankyou Chris - the information you have presented helped me make an informed decision about my ID.3 and the potential challenges. I really like the car and receiving mine with 3.2 in March from the Factory was great; albeit I didn't have a choice when I ordered it last year - I have the Life Model that was the only model I could order.
That I could have got a better spec if I had waited was unknown at the time. The money I saved I by ordered when I did I will keep aside to cushion any residual value challenges I may have. I'm also conscious of the arrival of model updates before I decide what to get next. Especially so in the UK with the delays to some of the updates on the Right Hand Drive. Again thankyou for sharing what information you have in previous videos.
I'm quite tall and the ID.3 has an excellent mix of small size and great space inside; if only they were to release an awd version then I would buy that. The ID.7 looks nice but I don't want a car as big and as expensive as that. I have a few years to wait and watch with interest to see what comes on to the market.
it's been three years since you released it? wow. I still remember the video of the day they gave it to you and how happy and excited you were
And I am still loving it. And so excited for the Id.7
@@BatteryLife It will be a very good car too. Congrats.
I got one of the firsts ID.4 here, in Canada; i feel the same way about my car. I feel we are left by ourselves. Also, no smaller VW will be offered here as far as we know. As for ID.7 and ID. Buzz coming, i heard through my old VW relations that we will see only 400 cars of both models, only in Q4 2024, here in Canada. My heart is broken but a Volvo EX30 is on its way for me in spring. It already makes me happy to wait for something i want, not something they want me to have. Case closed.
Looking at my car (Enyaq) coming from ICE. Software wise it is almost exactly the same as the ICE models, which makes the software good for me because I already knew how layout and the user interface was. Very happy also with how all the Assist systems work, and they work even better than my parent’s Model 3 Autopilot in my opinion. But I really get the frustration that people have with VW and how they manage existing customers.
Totally agree with your observations. We have an ID3 and ID4 and after just over 1 year of ownership, we have 2 "old" cars. I am very disappointed with VW. I want to support German/European car industry but.....😢The mechanics themselves work PERFECTLY (cruise control, travel assist, etc.)🇩🇪🇩🇰😀
you can support the german european car industry only by pulling the plug and buy a tesla cause only then VW management can no longer hide behide walls and has to face the reality of sales figures: customer gave his lease back and went to a different brand
This is the key message you can give to those idiots in the management silos , the towers of managers who llost control and drive their porsche or GTI R while devloping the next iD generation. Same for mercedes and all the others, never had learned to be faster than the competition, just as fast as the others would be good enough.
Love the plate PA ID 301 E uro
Tesla have set the norm for how software should work. My daughter's ID.3 spent 3 days in the dealership to get an update to 3.0. They also charged €200 simply to look at the batteries and power cables. VW are creating "service" items just to support their dealer network, it seems. On top of that, the staff were unpleasant to deal with. I don't mind newer cars coming through, as I spent my working life selling PCs, where there was always something new. Not offering v4 software for three year old cars is shooting themselves in the foot. You are very brave to take on another VW EV, given the experiences of early adopters of their offerings and the way they have been treated since. My daughter has told me when it comes time to change, VW won't be on the list for consideration.
I totally agree with you.
WV is VERY old thinking.
Very german… and not in a good way
A lot of car tax payer bail outs world wide in the next 2-3 years I think.
Also, I don't yet own and EV, and have never leased, but seeing the EV depreciation I'm more inclined to consider it.
Finally, while I have little love for Tesla (Musk mainly lol) you got to hand it to them.
VW and others back stabbing customers by over promising and under delivering.
Then as you say, getting charged 200 for make work, I assume 'mandatory' to maintain battery and other warrenty benefits?
Not difficult to see why VW are in serious trouble
I would be worried about resale value when you have a first 1 gen id3. Good that you had it on a lease.
Thanks Chris, thought this was a good honest set of reflections and I am sorry for your frustration. Looking back on the launch period, in retrospect and in the cold light of day it does seem bizarre and hard to explain. How could VW release a car that was only half-finished (OK, a slight exaggeration, but you get my drift)? And why did early enthusiasts buy into the empty promises of OTA upgrades and continual future enhancement etc? Either way, the cost in terms of reputation to VW is surely huge. In future, caveat emptor.
In the North American market, the CCS vs NACS business is the huge thing standing out. I think every major EV automaker except for VW/Audi has announced they are switching to NACS. And those that have announced a switch are also promising to provide adapters for older cars so they can use the Tesla superchargers.
It is hard to overstate how bad the CCS chargers are in North America. Lots of broken chargers, and an insufficient number of chargers. Lots of the blame goes to Electrify America (which is a VW subsidiary), but other charge point operators also have their problems with reliability.
I think vw maybe was to ambitious , should have just kept the e-golf and upgraded the battery instead
Hi Chris I bought an Id.3 in December 2020 and got frustrated with the issues you described and sold it in July 2022. Bought a model 3 and kick myself for not buying the Tesla from the start.
My only grief is the lack of memory seats. The current 3,2 is good enough for me, especially the ability to have different charging settings at work or home. Really looking forward to the 2024 version. ID3 max is a good competitor in the 50k€ range for a car with good matrix lights and good cruise control.
A feature that was promised with our VW ID.4 1st Edition was Plug and Charge - here in the US it has *NOT* yet been done!
I had no idea your app didn't allow you to lock/unlock your car remotely. My Ioniq(28kWh) from 4.5yrs ago when I got it on lease a 2019 AU edition although has a very basic app does allow me to lock/unlock the car plus honk the horn and flash the lights as well as turn on HVAC for up to 10min before arrival to the car so it's pre-heated/cooled.
Woud you recommend to buy a 1st max secondhand?
I'll stick with my 2019 golf rrrrr. Stick of course. My golf r has been best one yet,of the 17+ vws over the decades.
Another slightly annoying thing is that the car connects to the servers only via the 4G network and that is not always reliable. If the car is in an underground garage, for example, the signal is weak / non-existent.
It would have been better if it could connect to the house WiFi and receive commands from the app via the WiFi.
Tesla does this. It is strange how it’s kind of obvious, but they just don’t do it.
Even my Land Rover connects seamlessly to my home wifi if the signal is stronger than the 4G signal and JLR is usually ridiculed for its poor incar iT but I’ve never had a problem getting any of the many OTA updates in either of the “connected” Range or Land Rovers I’ve owned. I live out in the countryside where 4G is not great so being able to use home wifi for updates is really useful. My Mini Cooper is the same.
I had a weekend loan of an ID3 before I purchased my Mini EV - I loved the ID3 exterior but the interior and software was awful and I probably will never buy a VAG car in the future because it isn’t just VW that has iT issues, I have a friend with a Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo that never seems to be out of the dealership workshop with software and iT issues - most recently it has had no cabin heating (not even the heated seats or steering wheel) at all which isn’t great now we are getting into winter and so far it’s been E weeks in the work shop while they try to fix that issue and he got no loan car…………..
The ID3 was on our list for a new car next year, our lease will end in may. Now we have second thoughts because of the upcoming updates next summer. If we order now for delivery in may we will get the 12" screen but not the backlit one because that require a new hardware or the next software 4.0. You mentioned a new motor next year. Is this a fact or just a rumour? If VW will introduce yet another upgrade just a couple of months after we get our car, I think the ID3 is a no go for now. A pity because the car is easy to like. Maybe go for either the new Kona or Citroën ë-C4😉
Tesla is still light years ahead. Still miss Herbert Diess. Tesla Berlin just gives just so much more for same cost.
I am waiting for a monthly ACC subscription in the shop. 😇
It's also a pitty that you can't even see your battery consumption in the app nor can you track your consumptiin and charging stats.
Oh, and I should add that just today, VW pushed out a new app in the North American market, that *REMOVED* the ability to see whether the car is locked or the windows are up.
??? Why why would you use OTA to remove features? This is madness.
@@ouethojlkjn Not from the car - just from the app.
@@JackRussell021 Yes indeed, still crazy. It is one other thing other manufacturers offer and VW decide to withdraw. My guess is there is a security issue with it.
Prices... worst
It seems like there’s problem of misguided expectations. VW, and the other manufacturers, are to blame for a lot of it, but some of it is on the buyers, as well. I own a Hyundai IONIQ 5. I'm pretty grateful for getting battery preconditioning recently, but should I have expected it? Maybe we should buy these cars based on what they offer at the time of purchase. On the other hand, it feels like the manufacturers have been dangling things like V2H/V2G in front of their customers, when it always seems to be a couple years off. And don't get me started on Tesla and FSD.
I think it's reasonable to expect software updates that make improvements to the UI/nav etc, but maybe we shouldn't expect new "features." If the manufacturers try to use future features as a selling point, that's a whole other story.
You forget the fact that VW proudly told us buyers again and again, that we will get regulary software updates with new features.That was a big point in buying the ID3 in 2020. We got a car which was not ready for using it officially on the street then. If they did not make such great promises we would not be so much dissapointed.
@@azeman70 what features were promised? I’m in the US so I don’t know how it was marketed in Europe.
Yes. The lack of software updates is inexcusable. The poor performance of the software is the main reason I didn’t buy an ID.4. Full disclosure: I had one on order that ended up on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, but I had already purchased my car by that time.
If the ID.3 was not ready for use when you bought it, then why did you buy it?That is precisely my point. I’m not trying to victim blame, but it seems people need to be prepared to say “no” to something that doesn’t meet their expectations.
@ Battery Life: did you know why Volkswagen deleted the video of you speaking about your ID.3 again from facebook?
I didn't even know it was online
Do anyone for instance have an idea, why Volkswagen don’t manage do implement Apps like TH-cam or Netflix into their system? Can’t believe that this seems to be impossible for Volkswagen🤯
I am still in 2.4 and I have an appointment on February 18, 2024 for 3.2... I find this shameful. The garage postponed the appointment 3 times...
I am a Hyundai owner (Kona and Ioniq5) - They are better than VW but still very very far from Tesla. We get updates but so much useless features, route planning just became mature, wireless CarPlay still not there etc. So don’t worry, you are not alone !
In Portugal inspection is 34,19€, but your salary is 3×...
I really don’t get the disappointment. I have a two year old id3 and accept the car is what was manufactured at the time.
Perhaps I'm being too cynical, but part of me thinks that VW realised if they kept the older cars updated then owners wouldn't trade up to a newer version
So they're going to drip feed the updates or just leave promised features unimplemented in older cars to force customers to trade up
I expect that finally the new motor, new computer hardware/software will represent a more stable development level for the IDs going forward. Now they will be able to do OTA updates on a regular basis and the hardware won't be outdated ie incapable to run updates. And the 86hp increase in hp for the RWD and 35-40hp increase for the AWD makes the ID4 and ID7 very competitive. It's great to see a honest opinion about your experiences Chris. Thanks. There's too many Tesla clowns going on and on about how great their car is.
Being able to control your car from the app is overrated. Who needs software over the air updates anyway? And so what is VW lies again? It’s not as if they haven’t done it before. The VW software is so good that they have just sacked or 3000 staff an outsourced it to China.
@@ouethojlkjn what in the world are you going on about???
@@kevinn1158 How appalling VW are. We Tesla clowns love to go and on about how many more EVs VW are selling than Tesla, you know, because VW EVs are so good and all. Actually, I might not have that right. I think Tesla sell more EVs than VW but I am sure you will put me straight on that.
@@ouethojlkjn I don’t trust anybody who thinks their vehicle is perfect. Yet, I’ve seen hundreds of Tesla reviews saying this exact thing. Then when the new version comes out, these same clowns talk about all of the crappy things on the older car. Out of spec is the perfect example of this. So you go on pumping.
@@kevinn1158 Ah so VW have not sacked 3,000 software engineers then? Is that what you are saying? They have kept the same crappy ones on who rolled out the latest VW crappy software. What they should have done is concentrated on making backlit buttons so the car can be safely driven at night. That would be good. But I guess these VWs aren't perfect. Still, VW did shaft all their rabid early adopters by not delivering on half the things they said would be coming Via OTA updates. It isn't that Tesla's are perfect, though they are produced by a company who have self landing rockets. And OTA updates. Not sure VW have either yet but it's only been ten years, Teslas are so much better than VWs efforts. Which is why IDs aren't selling in the numbers hoped for. But if it works for your narrow world view, crack on with pumping the numbers on when VW might have actually caught up.
I used to get annoyed with updates to my tesla. They break things and bring you new features such as shrinking the size of the sat nav map. I'm OK with slower updates, just not as slow as the MEB platform. Having said that my car has more features than when I bought it, just not done things like plug and charge or pre conditioning the battery.
One problem with ID3, and ID4 is the interior. And I don’t really mean the hard plastics (which are now fixed in the facelift). It’s just that it looks like an interior from an utilitarian van. The ID2 concept has way better interior. Skoda Enyaq has way better interior. I hate those seat-integrated armrests, whenever I drive ID3 or 4, it feels cramped and my arm never rests on those properly as they are too close to me. Just put in a standard armrest, it would also give more storage space!
Just fix the interior. Please.
The hardware just cannot be updated easily and that's a mindset that car makers don't have yet whereas I have a 20 year old computer case that has had every internal component updated many times. It's an ugly old case but big and convenient.
Of course as there are more versions of VW hardware it gets to be more work to support the new software on the old hardware. So for example fighter aircraft have this problem and there is a proposed Eurofighter Typhoon update where the computer becomes much more module and car be updated by swapping a box.
If the car puts more of the intelligence in a central computer and less in microcontrollers then it will be more upgradeable.
It also helps if you spend a little m9oney to start with and put decent hardware in originally….
It's ironic that you are leasing a car which has the word "PAID" on the number plate.
Any news of the bidirectional charging VW have promised?
that is in 3.5
Still can't change the charging limit from the app. I have to go out to the car and change it in the infotainment system.
I could do that from the start in 2020
Isn't the side 1st badge on driver's side crooked?😅
No
The first gen ID3s are now abandoned as facelift model is out and it already has 3.5 I'd software. Which is probably never coming to older ID3s. I bought my ID3 1st Max used. My car has been working decently well, but I'm bit disappointed that it is already outdated in software wise after 3 yrs. Not expecting software updates in the future. Like buying cheap chinese Android phone, if you're lucky you get couple updates and that's it. My ID3 was extremely expensive as new. The facelift model is still too expensive. It should be 30ke car when new, then it would sell better. No wonder VW has cut down the ID3 production.
What german companies do not know how to do is software. Embedded yes, but software that a customer uses, no 😅
I'm not the owner of ID 3, but what I hear from people that it is a great car . Software for infotainment should work better but this doesn't get you to the point B car will take you there and this is what I'd 3 does's good
That's why I passed from WV ID3 to Tesla
This is why i didn’t buy an id4 the software was shocking, so glitchy and them stupid buttons or lack of on the steering wheels and don’t get me started on the fact the heating controls don’t light up in the dark WTF
Owned an id3 for less than 2 years and VW offered me 63% less for a trade in for a New one!! - its a great car but im done wth VW forever.
The perfect pictur was the one with id3 side by side with garbage
As an former owner of id3 I can tell you never buy id or volkswagen or audi ev
8 hours for an update! Takes 25 mins on my Tesla Model 3.
Still I think this EV will be a classic.
I guess you waited with this one until they put out their video with you? :D
Where can i find this Video? I cant see it anymore on facebook...
They didn't tell me it was up
Weird, I can't find it now. It definitely went up on the Facebook group the other day. Maybe it was a mistake. I haven't got around to watching it yet.
@@BatteryLife back up now
We were still having problems with our ID3 1st even with 3.2 and we traded it for an iX1. Very poor show with resolving problems VW and you have paid for it. I wouldn’t recommend an ID3.
Coming from a Cupra born, but very similar:
1.) The software is a joke even after 3.2
2.) The app isn’t even a joke but just appalling. Sllloooowwwwww!
3.) No towing capacity and no roof load just because VW chose so
4.) The price, 40k€ for a 30k€ car!?
I don't think I would buy an EV because of changing technology and manufacturers learning how to build something new. Lease.
Constant updates. The cars are worthless within a few years. Not fit for purpose.
Why so much concern about the car. It is leased with a fixed return date. You do not own the car and never will. Ownership is different.
Biggest disappointments are the OTA Updates, missing Park Assist on 2022 models and VW support in Portugal. The car itself it's a great car but the all experience with VW and OTA makes it feel as not worthy, comparing with other EVs in the same price range and even cheaper. The bad thing is that VW still didn't learned the lesson...🙄🤷♂️🤦♂️ It's my 1st EV but will never go for VW again.
Totally agree! i bought ID3 used 1 year ago...and have been to the dealer abit too many times with OTA updates, bugs and errors that should not happened. Last time im buying anything related to VW sadly, as the car itself is wonderful and quite spacious for being the size/class that it is in, but the lack of software/hardware fixes and feature dismantled it all for me.
I don't own an EV yet, but I've read enough about VW EV's to know that it's incredibly unlikely they will be my 1st or even 7th choice.
Catalogue of errors, and coming relatively fresh from their diesel scandal it's an easy pass
You are missing a big point. They are doing this car way much as a ICE car. to much is done in an old fashion way.......
Who wants a car so reliant on endless software patches, its annoying as crap my phone every week needs to send a software update. Held ransom by VW - great, until VAG implode.
Why can’t they offer a new computer upgrade?
That’s why my next car will be a Tesla.
I guess you've been beta testing for VW for three years and now they can produce a decent ID3, VW don't come out of this too well.
WV ev division is in a violent spiral down. Laying of a lot of people and halting the product of many of their different ev cars.
Be smart. Dont buy a VW ev.
The poor haptic buttons and sliders, VW should have stuck to buttons and knobs. This and all the other errors mentioned in the comments and the video is why sales of IDs are disappointing, not because “people don’t want EVs”. VW needs to fix these errors fast if they don’t want to keep losing market share and end up as EV has been.
To VW. At least provide the new look of the software to ID3s. Because you failed with the first gen software and customers are frustrated. I am. If I change my car I will NOT go to VW again if you don’t. And being a legacy manufacturer will turn you into a manufacturer of the PAST in our minds. Not customer oriented. Not software oriented.
this car family was simply a whole scam to be honest and you would also call it if you would have the right distance with all the mess and missed promises .
6:46 you say that you were just sad that the car could not be retrofitted.
Sounds like you are too kind to VW and the usual bet would be that you got the ID7 for cheap, I mean the press car discount for yt and journalists which you do not wanna risk or put at stake.
The id car mess started with a
* delayed delivery
* missing accessories
* then the promises with the heatpump regarding range which no one were able to achieve
* terrible preheating even if not needed an ´d no ability to turn it off
* no remote updates
* weak or instable app
* terrible interior quality at delivery
* the 5 th seat has been lost for 1 model with the big battery if I remember right due to a too low total weight they had told the regulators.
This car is ruining VWs reputation across the globe about its capabilities and future proofness, I mean the whole id family is crap except maybe the upcoming id.7 which therefore is too expensive and again far behind competition from the usual guy without a brand preference.
Also the communication of VW with their new customer base is terrible, dealership are not really prepared , the infrastructure is not there.
And I guess it is an abandoned car without getting any updates soon. They will lower the update frequency first and then phase it out to emergency updates only. Model S built in 2015 gets even today updates and free supercharging is still working.
ID.3 in particular was and is still a mess - or check out for comparison someone with an open mind like EV Markus from portugal who had gotten the ID.3 instead of his cactus and was never really happy with the car compared to a tesla which he finally got in january to get rid of the troubles he had faced with an id.3
That is the reality and if you watch his videos now it is a total different story, a total relief to drive a tesla model 3 instead of an buggy ID.3 aka lame duck without any real performance worth to mention compared to the model 3.
And way to many subcontractors, like Continental for the central computer. Hopeless design
You have some kind of test car. VW use customers for testing their cars, instead of themselves. After 15 years with many new cars from VW group, I am done with VW in 2022. I will never buy anything from them.
I'm kind of tired of titles mostly highlighting the bad side of things to grab attention. Nowadays I'm all for positive stuff.
What about a video about what VW did well with the id3? That would certainly grab my attention.
I'll skip this one.
Watch the first 5 seconds! I did a video what VW did right with the Id.3 from the start before that.
Bring back diesels....
Because they get no updates at all 😂
@@enyaq_gorm Cars becoming over loaded with too much software nonsense...functions that are a lot of useless gimmicks. Stick, get in and drive. It keeps me awake, and aware...i can't even drive automatic, last thing i want is any kind of drive assist. i turned off lane assist, one of the best things is rear view camera, as i back up, manually,
@@enyaq_gorm only after they got snagged, then lots of updates!!! an they resold them updated, and people love diesels, they run forever with great mpg
@@cengebtoo expensive to run. I have a diesel, £85 for 400 miles. My ev does that for around £7
I'm so annoyed with the charging station and the million RFID cards I need to carry for each of them, I'm selling my car right now and going back to a diesel until it'll be banned completely, fed up with these cars, can't wait to get back my real 1000km range on a full tank !