AmaNdebele kaMzilikazi lamaNdebele KaMusi -South Africa.
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- Ngemva kokufuduka kwenkosi uMzilikazi isuka kwaZulu yafika yakha kwaNdebele. Ngesikhathi ifika lapho kwakubusa amakhosi amabili uSibindi noMagodongo. Wafika wacela indawo yokuhlala enkosini ebisesatshwa kakhulu uSibindi. Kodwa ngokuqhubeka kwesikhathi inkosi uMzilikazi yenza itulo lokumketula uSibindi. Ngesikhathi ehleli lana uMzilikazi ubenokucela amabutho enkosi uSibindi ukuthi bayethumba imihlambi yezinkomo, lokhu kwenza ukuthi amabutho kaSibindi ecina semthanda kakhulu uMzilikazi. Nalapho kusakhiwa uzungu lokumbulala uSibindi uMzilikazi wancediswa yiwo lawo mabutho. Ngemva kokubulala uSibindi uMzilikazi wahamba wayocela ukuhlala esigabeni senkosi uMagodongo. UMagodongo ubeyinkosi engabhodwa elemilingo, ubengena lesikhuni sivutha esizibeni ayewela ngalena kwaso silokhu sivutha. Wakwenza kwabangumdlalo lokhu lenkosi uMzilikazi, kwaba amahlandla thizeni, kodwa inkosi uMzilikazi yehluleka ukuthi ingene esizibeni iphune laso silokhu sivutha. Lokhu kwatshengisa ukuthi inkosi uMagodongo ulamandla ayedlula awenkosi yamaNtungwa. Inkosi uMzilikazi yahlala phansi lenyanga yayo uMzizi benza icebo lokuwahlutha lawo mandla. Ngemva kokuwahlutha lawomandla inkosi uMzilikazi yavele yamsusela amanqe uMagodongo. Inkosi uMzilikazi ubuse isigaba sonke saseGuateng, ingxenye yeMpumalanga, North West etc. Zonke izizwe zabeSotho, lamaNdebele besezingaphansi kombuso wakhe.
ngiziqhenya kakhulu ngokuba ngu Mdebele wako Bulawayo 💃💃💃💃
Kuyafana anizazi ukuthi nisebenzisa yiphi i language.
@@jabumabena3588 Uyazi wumanela wena
@@jabumabena3588 Ubulawa yini Kathi wena
Zim Ndebele seem to be closer to AmaZulu than SA Ndebele. Even nangenkulumo.
That’s because we’re literally the same people
Yithi abantu
Jealousy down, the guy who is giving us this knowledge is very intelligent... Let's respect the history guys and learn more ngo mlando wethu
Xa kuthethwa nge kzn funeka sikhumbule ukuthi uthetha ngendawo ezimbini ezohlukene ,ie kwazulu ekuyindawo yamazulu nenkosi zawo u shaka ,dingane ,mpande njalo - njalo .xa uthetha nge Natal uthetha ngesizwe samangelengele / amahlubi kulapho uzofumana inkosi zamangelengele omthimkhulu ,mpangazitha ,ngwane ,mhlamga musi ,mpembe ( Nala) ndlovu ,dlomo,ndiyacinga angaphuma apha emahlubini (.mangelengele).amandebele Hai kumazulu Kuba nelwimi ( language ).yamandebele ifika ifane neyamahlubi example ekhethu njalo- njalo nendlela amandrebele enza ngayo xa esiya engomeni ifika ifane neyamangelengele nditsho nolanguage .so amandebele abuya e Natal Hai kwazulu
The story of Nzuza and manala sounds like Jacob and esau story 🤔
Yes, that's why we need to verify all the stories we are told because there's a lot of distortions as a result of colonisation. A lot of Zimbabwean history has been lost compared to SA and it's a shame everytime and anytime we mention the past in Zimbabwe we want to include Christianity and yet our history did not include it before colonisation. As soon as he brought up the Cane and Abel part ngihle ngasola. I would suspect that part of the history has been distorted. And Zimbabweans love the Bible more than their own God and culture.
Lendoda ididekile futhi akayedwa abathwakazi base Zimbabwe badidekile bonke. Umzilikazi akasiloni indebele nemvelaphi yakhe. Iyakuqaza lokhu.
Iqiniso ukuthi Amandebele awodwa nabaThwakazi babodwa. Umzilikazi akasiyona inkosi yaMandebele. Kodwa uyinkosi yaBathwakazi clan
Uqinisile,leminyaka elitjhumi athi umzilikazi wabusa ngayo amandebele nabesuthu akusilo iqiniso ngaleyo minyaka bekakhosele emakhosini wamandebele uthe bona awabulale wabaleka.watjhinga ngetlhagwini akazange ahlale abuse amandebele.begodu igama lamandebele walithatha emandebeleni abgafuni ukubizwa ngamantungwa ngoba asaba ushaka hayi lombhedo okhulunywa ngilomuntu akusilo iqiniso.
Mzilikazi is a prodigal son of the Khumalo Clan.. he was Shaka's general he ran away with his regiment not the Khumalo Clan.. Remember The about 95 surnames that come from maNtungwa mostly from the sons of Zikode who are Gasa and Magawozi. Surnames such as Mlotshwa, Msibi Ndlondlo, Nkosi Ndlangamandla, Mashinini/Guliwe, Mabaso, Ndlovu so on and so on...
You seem to know what you are talking about, however, you miss it when you say he only went away with his regiment and not the Khumalos. Yes he did not take with him all the Khumalos but it is not true that he only took with him his regiment. In his company he had children and women.
Yes true some of his family went with him and yes Mzilikazi is the diamond in the Mntungwa/Khumalo nation..
Udakiwe lo umzilikazi bekadlula akazange abusa amandebele.kunimehluko phakathi kokuhlala nokudlula indowo yomuntu kukulapho afele khona la afike wahlala khona nesizwe sakhe.
Umzilikazi waBusa empumalanga lase North west before alubhekise eZimbabwe after a long battle nama Bhunu.
Wabusa ngoba wathola inkosi yaMaNala u Sibindi, wambulala
My brother i think you are very informed but!!! There is a guy here from the South african Ndebele who is a chief check him out. His name is chilizi and Visimusi nanas skhosana. Those stories you talking about About the fire and the river i think you wrong the
Ukungabhali lokhu. Sesithwele nzima ngamanga. Laba oself made historians are making up history
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Mhlanga ka musi beyinkosi yamangelengele isizwe namhlanje esaziwa ngokuthi ngamahlubi ,isibongo sakwa mhlanga ka musi uyasifumana emahlubini ase mount fletcher namuhla ,ngisho nesibongo Sama Nala ompembe abaphemba umlilo emanzini ,
Very informative ❤
And misleading as well..
udakiwe wena
Oksalayo abasifuni eSatafrika
I think we need to look beyond that, kungani sifuna ukufunwa?
Yingoba niya ganga anihloniphi nisfutha ngale rumba yeni yini leyo insimbi zehwane,ndolwane, futhi anikwazi nokucula nibanga umsindo , your guest uyaphazama before ushaka they was no Zulu king Shaka is the founder of Zulu
@@sydkhumbu51 ngubani uJama, ubeyini uSenzangakhona? Umuntu oqale ukubutha amabutho nguNdaba, so awungeke usitshele lutho, awazi lutho.
UZwide ubengasiyo inkosi na? UDingiswayo ubengeyona inkosi na?
Whether you like them or not, that doesn't change history... Besides who said they want ukufunwa kkkkkk
Mashobane is brother to Gasa kaZikode and Magawozi kaZikode.. not all of them went to the Ndwandwes..
The man tell the history but he tells it incorrect mzilikazi stayed with amanala and told them he will need the amy to fight against shaka and and told magondongwe the same thing and he took sibindi best army to hunt and killed it in the bush. The he went to magondongwe but magondongwe had long sent his army away from his village because he did not want to fight shaka. So mzilikazi attacked magondongwe village as it had less army than his. He kidnapped magondongwe and his son who were in the village and took mloyi. The army saw a smoke coming from the village and headed back home and found their village burned they chase after mzilikazi and maneged to defeat the lower class warriors but failed against mzilikazi and his best army wher their king was held captive as they where exhausted.mzilikazi went to amanala and attacked and killed king sibindi.he went north where he was faced with a battle between him and sibindi brother chief mavula. Where chief mavula winned 2 battle against mzilikazi but in the 3rd battle mzilikazi winned and killed chief mavula and took his followers.mzilikazi headed north to fight the basotho,pedi,thswana tribes. And no mzilikazi did not rule all the ndebele.because after magondongwe was kidnapped the amanzunza would place somdeyi as regent for tjambowe(sokhulumi) . Mzilikazi killed their kings and fled he did not rule over the ndebele nation
Inkokoni yiyo imbhuduma
Ah indaba yakho le izima ngoba lapha kungathi usitsyela ngendaba ese Bible . U Isaka umntaka Jakobe waye thethe u Rabeka wazala u Jakobe lo Esau. U Isaka esesizwa ukuthi wayesekhulile walungisela ukubusisa u Esau kodwa u Rabeka wezwa wahle wagijima waya biza u Jakobe ukuthi ayebusiswa u Esau esaye zingela inyamazana eyayifunwa ngu Esau .u Jakobe wabusiswa ngu yise owaye ngasa boni owakhumbula ukuthi ngu Esau. Yikho mina iyangixaka ngoba konke lokho yinto eyenzakala endlini ka Abraham. Ngicela keliyi khangelisise lindaba.
Next time when u speak about Nzunzas and Manala. Please ensure that one of us is there to represent us. U are misleading chief
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Amanga angasukumi phansi lomfo udibanisa izinto ezimbili ezingafani kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
So y dont you debate it then???,brings yozzzzzz simple
This guy is talking nonsense and l don't understand your part when you say Mzilikazi is not a Zulu and how do you know, even the surnames of kzn are there in Bulawayo Zimbabwe, l think this guy must stop creating history.. l'm proud to be a Ndebele 😚
Kkkkkk I don't anything here, kahlekahle niqondukuthi ningabakwazulu or ningamazulu? Because you like to be called Zulus.
Asisomazulu mfo, singamandebele...ilanguage iyahambelana nje
@@user-dz4nr4my6w okay bro kodwa lanandebele wa la e Sauth Africa ayaniphika, bathi aniwona amandebele how? It is confusing because you all ndebeles but you are not under the same king how can you to us so that we understand it better. Ok let me just give you any example: swatis(swazis), kukhona amaswati Wa la e mzantsi, nase swatini , bonke I kingdom yabo yileyaa yase swatini. Amashangan to add! La Wa la e Sauth Africa nabase Mozambique they all talk about one kingdom; which is Gaza kingdom. But you as ndebeles you are totally divided how? I'm curious.
Emandebele ase-Zim awahlobani newaseSouth Africa, kepha bonke bamaNguni just like all Ngunis under Mswati/Dlamini and same with the Zulus...
@@msibiwagasa I'm not talking about ngunis, I'm talking about ndebeles from two different countries.
@@msibiwagasa let me give an example:sauth African sothos and Lesotho sothos they all bashoeshwe, shangans from Mozambique and sauth Africans they all Magaza, swatis from eswatini and sauth Africans they all mangwane under the same kingdom. So if you say abahlobene kepha bonke bangamandebele ?????