That's an interesting point. Actually, some of the East Asian film awards, such as Taiwan's Golden Horse Awards and Hong Kong Film Awards, do set the category for "Best Action Choreography". When I was a kid, the Hollywood fighting scenes could never satisfy me, compared with the fancy fights in HK movies, until The Matrix finally hired a legendary HK martial arts choreographer Yuen Woo-ping. Nowadays, there have been more and more impressive performances in Hollywood as well, like the John Wick series or the Bourne Identity series, whose fight scenes were even choreographed by western experts. It might be a tradition that the eastern filmmakers value fights and stunts more than their western counterparts. However, it seems to me that the audience around the world is beguiled by the gorgeous moves. I hope the Academy will award the professionals in the future just as for the Costume Design or Visual Effects.
"Did not know that Donnie Yen did BJJ (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)." Well, he has done a LOT more than that, plus he has a purple belt in it. He's well versed in multiple styles of martial arts. Aside from Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, he is a multiple-time world champion in Wushu, a Judo black belt, a 6th Dan in Taekwondo, along with mastery of Muay Thai, MMA, Wing Chun, Karate, Sanda, Hung Ga, Wrestling, Tai Chi, Boxing, Parkour, Kickboxing, Hapkido, and Jeet Kune Do. He's a DYNAMO of martial arts.
One of the few action actor who can really fight and did it professionally. I think Donnie could be solid pro fighter. Watch his training, he can actually box good as professional
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 That was not the whole scene you missed the end of the fight.Also watch Kill Zone and Kill Zone 2 and Ip Man 1-4,Undisputed 1-4,Best of the Best 1-4,Blood and Bone.
@@assikicker3273 Scott Adkins' choreographies are infinitely less convincing and, above all, less fluid. There's no comparison. Even when Donnie Yen is doing traditional kung fu scenes, it feels more real and convincing. That's because, in addition to being much more skilled than Adkins, he directs his own scenes.
Donnie is actually a legit mixed martial artist: Tae Kwon Do - 6th degree black belt, that is roughly 22-23 years worth of training in just this. Judo - Black Belt Brazilian Jui-Jitsu - Purple, not high in rank but he really hasn’t been practicing it for too long. Tai Chai - Life Long practice, mother is a grand master. Wushu - Has multiple gold metals in competition. Muay Thai - Practiced for a year or more. Wing Chun - Practiced daily with Ip Mans son for nine months. Kick Boxing - several months Parkor - several months. Olympic Wrestling - several months.
What a lot of people in the west don't know is that most HK actors grew up training martial arts. After they did the choreography and when the camera rolls, they fight for real. So it's the norm for them to get injured during filming, though not as much and hardcore as Jackie Chan. And that's how they make the fight scenes look realistic and intense. It's an unmatched standard.
BINGO. That's literally what Donnie Yen said about this scene with Collin Chow. He said that he outlined the basics but that they were "actually fighting" using the techniques they learned, so it wasn't one of those things where it was an actor learning how to do choreography, it was two accomplished martial artists telling a story. That's why most Chinese, Japanese, and South Korean films have such awesome fight scenes and most Hollywood junk is junk.
Exactly, some level of fighting is needed to not look totally staged. However some of these fights are more intense than I imagine a person can take. Yet they do it seems.
@@1014p When it seems too extreme like getting slammed on their backs against rails or floors, that's ofc camera tricks. But the physical fights between actors are 99% real.
This is the first time I've seen a martial arts movie fight where one guy is clearly winning when they're doing strikes but then the other guy just... out wrestles him. VERY cool!
This is seriously the gold standard for modern action choreography. The closest that any have come so far has been Gareth Evans and Iko Uwais in The Raid 2
@@nokungfuforyou323 I respectfully disagree. Both raid films stands head and shoulders above. Though flashpoint is an extremely close Second. Merantau comes in third.
Been watching Donnie Yen's movies since late the late '80s. I think he's the only actor that's constantly adapting and evolving to add new styles into his fight scenes.
Of all donnie yen films i still think flashpoint has the best fight scenes. Choreograph, camera work, stunt work, cool soundtrack are all just effin epic. The first time i watch this film when it was available on DVD i replayed all the fight scenes over and over again. Simply said this is not a movie. Its a masterpiece.
Collin Chou, pretty damn good martial artist and not well known in the US movies. he DID star in Matrix 2 and 3? as Seraph. or the guy who says, "First I must apologize.." -Seraph "For what?"-Neo "For this." - Seraph Guy also did a few movies of his own and did a movie with both Jet Li ( Body Guard from Beijing old 1990s?) and Donnie Yen. (Flash Point) and The Forbidden Kingdom as the Evil Warlord with both Jackie Chan and Jet Li
When I broke down this fight for myself, I saw a VERY interesting combination of grappling techniques from at least 4 different traditional martial arts. (I've always been more of a grappler than a striker.....) The very beginning (besides traditional Kung Fu, Western boxing and kickboxing) was a lot of traditional Judo. Hip and shoulder torquing movements (turning throws using body movement and the opponent's momentum and weight against them) from a standing or kneeling position. After the initial sequence, I saw a wide variety of techniques from BJJ (close grappling and transitions from various guard positions), classic grappling positions from Japanese Jiu-Jitsu (the classic triangle, for instance, more movements typically used in space), and Hapkido (grapples using various improvised tools such as jackets or improvised hybrid positions).Honestly, one of my favorite fight sequences ever committed to film.
Collin Chou also plays Jet Li's father in Fearless. He Huo Endi... The father of the main character Huo Yuan Jia in the film, Endi was also a martial arts master and raised Yuan Jia who became one of the greatest martial artists in history and a living legend in China. Also Huo Yuan Jia became a teacher during his life and one of his students is was Chen Zhen. Jet Li played Yuan Jia in Fearless and Chen Zhen in Fist of Legend. In Fearless Yuan Jia is poisoned and when you watch Fist of Legend Jet Lis Chen Zhen is looking for the killer of his teacher so those two films are kinda connected. Anyway Colin Chou is Endi in Fearless, Yuan Jias father and he's a badass in Fearless.
Yah...and Chen Zhen was also played by Donnie Yen and Bruce Lee. Oh...and by Yue Wu...who is also a not well enough known (in the west) but very amazing martial arts actor.
@@Kijinn None of that has anything to do with it with the point I was making. I was linking Colin Chou to his role with Jet Li in Fearless and then pointing out that there's are several threads to Colin's character as En Di to Yuan Jia in that film and then Chen Zhen in Fist of Legend that came decades before as En Di is connected to Jet Li's version of Chen Zhen because he's the father of the man who trained him and also on top of the connections I was attempting to make that have nothing to do with Donnie or Bruce... Yuen Wo Ping is a oftentimes collaborator with Jet Li and he directed all the fight choreography in the two films I mentioned for Jet Li, Fearless & Fist of Legend becoming another connection between Colin Chous En Di, Jets Yuan Jia and Jets Chen Zhen in Fist of Legend. My point could not be made if I included any of the information you added. I was making the connection between Endi, Yuan Jia and Zhen and now I've added Wo Ping as more connective tissue
@@queens2nd2none And well done, Troy Stone. I didn't dispute or lessen the message of your comment. I fully understood the point you were making and decided to add a minor bit of trivia, more loosely related to the topic, but still interesting to take note of.
I have the dvd...in the "making of" featurette, he details filming the fights...he is actually hitting Colin Chou in this....not full force but enough that they needed multiple breaks
That doesn't surprise me at all. To make a scene that convincing you need to be hitting each at least a little bit. Would love to see the bruises after they finished filming
It is said that Donnie Yen would pay extra money from his pocket to the stunt doubles so he could hit them for real in order to make scenes more realistic :)
@@JonathanJJZ Sammo Hung, the best choreography director, tries not to rehearse too much so that when the actors fight, they'll mess up hence making it look real. Donnie Yen and Sammo's fight in Sha Po Lang was a prime example of Sammo's directing.
@@JonathanJJZ Yes, he was said to have paid 800$ for the stunsman that slow-mo haymaker to the face in the end. I still hope that he had a dental plan.
@@SuccessforLifester it's like people nowadays not finding Seinfeld funny. We've grown up surrounded by its influence, and the idea isn't novel anymore
For the Judo part, I must say it’s simply beautiful how DY implements different techniques in the choreography, it starts from the grabbing with a Morote Seoi Nage, then De Ashi Barai into Uchi Mata to continue with a sacrifice technique such as Tomoe Nage and then another Morote Seoi Nage again on the table. Ok it’s for movie purposes but even judo veterans can’t properly make this combination on the spot.
You missed the most important part: the emotions that builds up throughout the whole movie finally unleashed in the final fight you won’t feel the anger in the beating as much unless you watch the whole movie
Flash Point is a Hong Kong cop story ( Donnie Yen ) against a ruthless band of Vietnamese triads ( Colin Chou ). Colin Chou is an underated Taiwanese action movie star. It is said while filming this fight scene, he got news of his sister's suicide in Taiwan but he stayed to finish filming so that everyone doesn't get hold up. After finished filming, he immediately flew back to Taiwan to attend his sister's funeral. Thatz 100% true professionalism.
What makes you and your channel awesome is that you understand the fight and can read what happens in the fight, and analyze it,, and you are dedicating the channel to it... Unlike those other guys who just keep yelling and just hear ahhh,, ooohh, yayeks and don't know what is happening, you are awesome man.. Respect..
@@BurridgeMartialArts604….. same here!! If you haven’t checked out an ole gem from golden harvest China……. Check out Jet Li’s “Fist of Legend!” At least 4 scenes in there you can react to!
I'm a martial artist, stuntman and fight choreographer from Singapore! I started my film career specially thanks to Donnie Yen! And yes, I'm a huge ass fan of him! I started mma because of him as well! The things you see here is true reflection of his prowess and skills! Check out SPL and Special ID as well!
I just did do SPL (his scene with Sammo Hung) and a scene from special ID as well but I'd like to revisit more from them too! That's so cool mate! Is there anything you're in we can watch??
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 yeap I saw the SPL reaction! Haha awesome man I have my film productions channel and has produced a few martial arts film here and there. But I'm afraid not the standard of Donnie Yen :") haha
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 no!! I am 41 years old , im With 13 years ca ,all Martial arts movies looked ,and train Home Alone kick Like Van Damme !!! Train Split at Home , No train in Martial Arts Gym. Today With 41 years ähm the Kicks Not so high 😂 , for a Fight it's OK hope so . Thanks for intressting,sry English not so god. Greetings From Germany Duisburg ❤️❤️
Donnie Yen is known to pay those he does fight scenes with more money to go full contact. If I remember, this is one of Donnie Yen's more brutal fights and ends up with Collin Chou actually being knocked out.
Donnie Yen commented in an interview that believes that BJJ is the most practical style among all of the martial arts and he tries to incorporate that in his movies. But this movie has it hands down his best ass-kicking moment in cinema.. You can feel the rage in the blows.
Colin chow was also a part of Jackie Chan’s stunt team for a few movies he’s another excellent actor and director he also played in jet lis fist of legend as his brother and dojo leader
The little arm spin Donnie does is not necessary a fake. In traditional Kung fu theory the spinning of the arm collets the blood at the fist and allows you to punch quite a bit harder and feel less pain. Speed x mass = velocity. Velocity x precision = +😭. When mass is your fist even a few grams makes a world of difference.
Bruce Lee aside, Jackie Chan and Donnie Yen are my favorite martial artists / martial arts actors! Donnie is CRIMINALLY underrated and not as well known as he should be!!!
This is the best ever fight scene from Donnie Yen. Saya rasa. Donnie memperlihatkan skill martial art yang berbeda. Sangat memuaskan penikmat film action.
Awesome man! You should react to Donnie's "In the Line of Duty 4" fight scene where he goes against Michael Woods on the building's rooftop. Another top notch fight scene.
OMG!! That movie! That entire movie is filled with gold standard action fight choreography. Cynthia killed it. Donnie killed it. That movie has a special place in my heart.
You can watch Donnie Yen in SPL, Special ID and Kung Fu Killer as well. Donnie Yen and Scott Adkins are the top two martial arts actors. There are many great ones as well, but simply they can't compare to them.
I recommend some fights from Dragon Tiger Gate as well. Donnie Yen kicks ass in that too. It's a bit flashier since it's a comic book movie but still definitely holds up with Flash Point
Instant sub. The scene I’ve never seen before, but as a martial artist the running commentary by someone with such an amount of knowledge covering so many styles, was educational. Quality content!
Uma Thurman and Darryl Hannah Kill Bill Vol.2 trailer fight that was like WTF cause it looks like a street fight with a smidge of Martial Arts thrown in for fun 😊
I'm trying to remember if this is the movie or not but I think during one of Donnie's movies they basically just offered one of the stunt guys a few hundred more for Donnie to just knock him right out on camera. That said there are also stories of Donnie putting a bunch of guys in the hospital for harassing his girlfriend at a club.
I know you wrote this months ago but i am pretty sure it was in flashpoint where he did that but honestly i think he has Done it more times aswell since where Donnie is from stunt guys dont get played to just show up like in america
I love your Videos ! you should see (Kill Zone) Donnie Yen vs. Wu Jing , he actually break the other arm s they have to tape the knife on another guy hand to finish the scene
Yeah he’s well known for his triple touch kick like almost in all of his movies, even the ones where he isn’t the main lead protagonist like Blade 2? Maybe even Triple X and the upcoming John Wick 4 we may see his triple touch kick again.
Donnie Yen studied a bunch of martial arts: Tai Chi, Boxing, Kickboxing, Jeet Kune Do, Hapkido, Taekwondo, Karate, Muay Thai, Wrestling, BJJ, Judo, Wing Chun, and Wushu. It's no surprise he implements some of them in his movies.
Well first I was a huge martial arts fan since I was in middle school and watch a lot of martial arts films, like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Jet Li, and Donnie Yen. And they are all my heroes/ idols and I want to learn Taekwondo because I just love it so much and that I can defend myself and I can be a Master of Taekwondo and plus I have another favorite martial arts action star and his name is Scott Adkins and you should react to one of his fight scenes/his movies too.
The last fight scene from ''The Raid 2 - Berandal'' (Iko Uwais vs. Cecep Arif Rahman). Probably one of the best fight scenes I have ever watched. I'm new to this channel, but the fight scene in ''SPL (Sha Po Lang)'' Donnie Yen vs. Wu Jing was great too. That fight was improvised from both Donnie and Jing, who wanted to see who could hit each other first.
@@UGOkilleth Are you sure you've seen part 1? I'm asking because what you're saying reflects my feelings for the second part. The fights were well performed, but had absolutely no tension. I was bored the entire time. In the first movie, the action was perfect, though. There was a build-up to every fight and it never seemed like there was a protagonist who couldn't die or get seriously harmed.
@@Kijinn I've seen part 1 and yes it is the better one of the two. Part 1 was much more intense, especially during the 2 v 1 fight. I just don't like how choreographed everything looked. It basically looked more like a dance rather than a fight, similar to the 70s kungfu movies but much faster. But maybe that's just me coming from Sammo Hung, Jackie Chan, and korean choreography style.
@@UGOkilleth I see. My favorite fight in The Raid was the one between Yayan Ruhian (the antagonist in the 2 vs 1 fight) and Joe Taslim (the Special Forces leader). It seemed less obviously choreographed to me. Could you spare the time to recommend a Korean movie with especially good martial arts? Love Korean film making (they release better stuff than Hollywood), but haven't seen many martial arts centered movies yet.
@@Kijinn For korean, their choreography aren't spectacular but I appreciate the realism behind it. These movies aren't fight oriented but they had pretty good realistic fight scenes. Just to name a few, obvious ones are "Old Boy" and "Fighter in the Wind", "My Boss My Hero", "My Boss My Teacher", and "The Gangster, the Cop, the Devil".
Little fun fact. When Donnie Yen was winding up his arm as if to punch, that's called a bolo punch. Originates from Filipono martial arts and made it's way into boxing. A few people who have used it effectively are Sugar Ray Leonard and Ray Jones Jr. Its mainly to showboat but it can be effective
Both great martial artist but unfortunately there aren't many movies like this one anymore. Donnie remains my favorite living martial artist! Dragon Tiger Gate was another good one but kinda Crouching tiger Hidden Dragon-ish, so if you don't like that don't watch it but I love pretty much almost all Donnie Yen movies.
Killzone was a other great movie with a crazy knife vs baton fight scene towards the end if you want to check that out just look for Killzone alleyway fight scene I think on here.
Fun Fact: Collin Chou played the Jade Warlord in Forbidden Kingdom and he also played Seraph in the Matrix franchise a role that was offered to both Michelle Yeoh AND Jet Li both of whom turned it down.
All the villain portrayal in this movie is just top notch. I feel so much anger for the villains that i wanted donnie to smash them good. Heck everyone was excellent in the movie.
The back alley fight in this movie is good too. Really like how the asian cinematography likes to just hold the camera steady at a distance so you can see what is going on. Too many cuts and shakes that only confuses you in western cinematography.
You've seen Collin Chou, before this. For me, it was 'another' great martial arts movie called, "Red Wolf". But most people saw him in the Matrix where, "He can take you to see the Oracle, but first he must apologize! ".- Wingless
So that "fake" that you saw was not a fake and it wasn't rehearsed. I have the Movie disc with the behind the scenes take and he stated that they actually fought, using restrained but real punches. He said the reason he was swinging his hand was that half way through his hands were physically hurting and were in real pain, so to shake it off he kept shaking his hands
Mate I've been coaching and teaching for so long now that it is just habit! Especially when I get a bit nervous behind the camera, habit takes over and I become a commentator
It blows my mind that this choreography can't make it to hollywood, like this is legit art...
right!?
Not everyone is as dedicated as Tom Cruz and Keanu, and even those guys don't come close to this
What do we get instead? Shaky cams and cuts every half a second or so
@@SPACECOWBOY705 I think Keanu is on par with this, it's just "western style".
That's an interesting point. Actually, some of the East Asian film awards, such as Taiwan's Golden Horse Awards and Hong Kong Film Awards, do set the category for "Best Action Choreography".
When I was a kid, the Hollywood fighting scenes could never satisfy me, compared with the fancy fights in HK movies, until The Matrix finally hired a legendary HK martial arts choreographer Yuen Woo-ping. Nowadays, there have been more and more impressive performances in Hollywood as well, like the John Wick series or the Bourne Identity series, whose fight scenes were even choreographed by western experts.
It might be a tradition that the eastern filmmakers value fights and stunts more than their western counterparts. However, it seems to me that the audience around the world is beguiled by the gorgeous moves. I hope the Academy will award the professionals in the future just as for the Costume Design or Visual Effects.
"Did not know that Donnie Yen did BJJ (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)." Well, he has done a LOT more than that, plus he has a purple belt in it. He's well versed in multiple styles of martial arts. Aside from Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, he is a multiple-time world
champion in Wushu, a Judo black belt, a 6th Dan in Taekwondo, along with mastery of Muay Thai, MMA, Wing Chun, Karate, Sanda, Hung Ga, Wrestling, Tai Chi, Boxing, Parkour, Kickboxing, Hapkido, and Jeet Kune Do. He's a DYNAMO of martial arts.
One of the few action actor who can really fight and did it professionally. I think Donnie could be solid pro fighter. Watch his training, he can actually box good as professional
@@harithdanial141 He's also lightning fast, second only to Bruce Lee.
I love that Donnie Yen has been so eager to incorporate some fresh MMA style flavors into his choreos..
Me too mate. Its so refreshing to see and he does it so well
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 That was not the whole scene you missed the end of the fight.Also watch Kill Zone and Kill Zone 2 and Ip Man 1-4,Undisputed 1-4,Best of the Best 1-4,Blood and Bone.
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 Have you seen Scott Adkins from Undisputed 2? Scott Adkins is much better than this.
@@assikicker3273 No.
@@assikicker3273 Scott Adkins' choreographies are infinitely less convincing and, above all, less fluid.
There's no comparison.
Even when Donnie Yen is doing traditional kung fu scenes, it feels more real and convincing. That's because, in addition to being much more skilled than Adkins, he directs his own scenes.
Donnie is actually a legit mixed martial artist:
Tae Kwon Do - 6th degree black belt, that is roughly 22-23 years worth of training in just this.
Judo - Black Belt
Brazilian Jui-Jitsu - Purple, not high in rank but he really hasn’t been practicing it for too long.
Tai Chai - Life Long practice, mother is a grand master.
Wushu - Has multiple gold metals in competition.
Muay Thai - Practiced for a year or more.
Wing Chun - Practiced daily with Ip Mans son for nine months.
Kick Boxing - several months
Parkor - several months.
Olympic Wrestling - several months.
What a lot of people in the west don't know is that most HK actors grew up training martial arts. After they did the choreography and when the camera rolls, they fight for real. So it's the norm for them to get injured during filming, though not as much and hardcore as Jackie Chan. And that's how they make the fight scenes look realistic and intense. It's an unmatched standard.
BINGO. That's literally what Donnie Yen said about this scene with Collin Chow. He said that he outlined the basics but that they were "actually fighting" using the techniques they learned, so it wasn't one of those things where it was an actor learning how to do choreography, it was two accomplished martial artists telling a story. That's why most Chinese, Japanese, and South Korean films have such awesome fight scenes and most Hollywood junk is junk.
Exactly, some level of fighting is needed to not look totally staged. However some of these fights are more intense than I imagine a person can take. Yet they do it seems.
@@1014p When it seems too extreme like getting slammed on their backs against rails or floors, that's ofc camera tricks. But the physical fights between actors are 99% real.
@@KrazeDiamond they had a stunt guy eat the punch at the end, donnie has the “rubber fist” on but that guy definitely eats it
lol no, most actors in hk did not grow up doing martial arts. only the actors IN martial arts movies grew up doing martial arts
This is the first time I've seen a martial arts movie fight where one guy is clearly winning when they're doing strikes but then the other guy just... out wrestles him. VERY cool!
Its one of the best action movies ever made (not exaggerating). This is as good as it gets.
This is one of the finest martial arts scenes ever in a film.
My whole body is aching after watching this amazing fight scene.
😂
This is one of my favorite fight scenes ever. Super clean choreography with a more realistic combat scene. Just spectacular.
This is seriously the gold standard for modern action choreography. The closest that any have come so far has been Gareth Evans and Iko Uwais in The Raid 2
These guys are better.
I recommend Dragon Tiger Gate as well. It's a bit flashier since it's a comic book movie but Donnie Yen kicks ass in it too.
And the Ong Bak franchise
@@nokungfuforyou323 I respectfully disagree. Both raid films stands head and shoulders above. Though flashpoint is an extremely close Second. Merantau comes in third.
@@subhadeep129 I agree, I love Flashpoint but holy shit, both Raids movie are Tier 1 when it comes to action/martial art films.
Been watching Donnie Yen's movies since late the late '80s. I think he's the only actor that's constantly adapting and evolving to add new styles into his fight scenes.
Even at 57 he’s constantly doing different systems. Pretty awesome.
Of all donnie yen films i still think flashpoint has the best fight scenes. Choreograph, camera work, stunt work, cool soundtrack are all just effin epic. The first time i watch this film when it was available on DVD i replayed all the fight scenes over and over again. Simply said this is not a movie. Its a masterpiece.
This isnt flashpoint but i agree flashpoint is also my favourite from Donnie
Collin Chou, pretty damn good martial artist and not well known in the US movies. he DID star in Matrix 2 and 3? as Seraph. or the guy who says,
"First I must apologize.." -Seraph
"For what?"-Neo
"For this." - Seraph
Guy also did a few movies of his own and did a movie with both Jet Li ( Body Guard from Beijing old 1990s?) and Donnie Yen. (Flash Point) and The Forbidden Kingdom as the Evil Warlord with both Jackie Chan and Jet Li
He was so good in this movie! had no idea he was Seraph though, might be time for a Matrix rewatch
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 He was indeed. You need a rewatch haha
He also acted as the Jade Emperor in The Forbidden Kingdom with Jackie Chan and Jet Li
he played a lot of hongkong movies.. usually as the bad guy..
And city of darkness with donnie yen 1999
One of my favorite fight scenes in any action movie. So well choreographed so well executed. It incorporates so many different styles and techniques
When I broke down this fight for myself, I saw a VERY interesting combination of grappling techniques from at least 4 different traditional martial arts. (I've always been more of a grappler than a striker.....) The very beginning (besides traditional Kung Fu, Western boxing and kickboxing) was a lot of traditional Judo. Hip and shoulder torquing movements (turning throws using body movement and the opponent's momentum and weight against them) from a standing or kneeling position. After the initial sequence, I saw a wide variety of techniques from BJJ (close grappling and transitions from various guard positions), classic grappling positions from Japanese Jiu-Jitsu (the classic triangle, for instance, more movements typically used in space), and Hapkido (grapples using various improvised tools such as jackets or improvised hybrid positions).Honestly, one of my favorite fight sequences ever committed to film.
Never heard of Collin Chou? Seraph in Matrix 2 and 3, Forbidden Kingdom, and that’s just to name a few.
this fight is awesome, especially in better quality!
i also like his ridiculous battle vs. sammo in kill zone
Collin Chou also plays Jet Li's father in Fearless. He Huo Endi... The father of the main character Huo Yuan Jia in the film, Endi was also a martial arts master and raised Yuan Jia who became one of the greatest martial artists in history and a living legend in China. Also Huo Yuan Jia became a teacher during his life and one of his students is was Chen Zhen. Jet Li played Yuan Jia in Fearless and Chen Zhen in Fist of Legend. In Fearless Yuan Jia is poisoned and when you watch Fist of Legend Jet Lis Chen Zhen is looking for the killer of his teacher so those two films are kinda connected. Anyway Colin Chou is Endi in Fearless, Yuan Jias father and he's a badass in Fearless.
Yah...and Chen Zhen was also played by Donnie Yen and Bruce Lee.
Oh...and by Yue Wu...who is also a not well enough known (in the west) but very amazing martial arts actor.
@@Kijinn None of that has anything to do with it with the point I was making. I was linking Colin Chou to his role with Jet Li in Fearless and then pointing out that there's are several threads to Colin's character as En Di to Yuan Jia in that film and then Chen Zhen in Fist of Legend that came decades before as En Di is connected to Jet Li's version of Chen Zhen because he's the father of the man who trained him and also on top of the connections I was attempting to make that have nothing to do with Donnie or Bruce... Yuen Wo Ping is a oftentimes collaborator with Jet Li and he directed all the fight choreography in the two films I mentioned for Jet Li, Fearless & Fist of Legend becoming another connection between Colin Chous En Di, Jets Yuan Jia and Jets Chen Zhen in Fist of Legend. My point could not be made if I included any of the information you added. I was making the connection between Endi, Yuan Jia and Zhen and now I've added Wo Ping as more connective tissue
@@queens2nd2none
And well done, Troy Stone.
I didn't dispute or lessen the message of your comment.
I fully understood the point you were making and decided to add a minor bit of trivia, more loosely related to the topic, but still interesting to take note of.
He also played as a villain in Kungfu Cult Master with Jet Li. It's rare to see him play a good guy role
The swivelling fists are so fun to watch, I can feel my eyes widen when he does that, where's the punch? A great fight scene for sure.
one of my fave donny yen movie and martial arts scenes
Donnie best fighter actor from Asia....😉😉😉
Donnie Yen always the real deal.
Chinese fighting movies is always on another level
Damn I haven't seen flashpoint in a while. That movie was badass.
I have the dvd...in the "making of" featurette, he details filming the fights...he is actually hitting Colin Chou in this....not full force but enough that they needed multiple breaks
That doesn't surprise me at all. To make a scene that convincing you need to be hitting each at least a little bit. Would love to see the bruises after they finished filming
It is said that Donnie Yen would pay extra money from his pocket to the stunt doubles so he could hit them for real in order to make scenes more realistic :)
@@JonathanJJZ Sammo Hung, the best choreography director, tries not to rehearse too much so that when the actors fight, they'll mess up hence making it look real. Donnie Yen and Sammo's fight in Sha Po Lang was a prime example of Sammo's directing.
@@JonathanJJZ Yes, he was said to have paid 800$ for the stunsman that slow-mo haymaker to the face in the end. I still hope that he had a dental plan.
Omg , you never heard of Collin? That means you didn't watch Matrix closely
Seraph?
@Jason Yang It was a groundbreaking film if watched during that year.
@@SuccessforLifester it's like people nowadays not finding Seinfeld funny. We've grown up surrounded by its influence, and the idea isn't novel anymore
@@doxiedomian Yeah it was a generation thing.. like I am not familiar with the current musicians
For the Judo part, I must say it’s simply beautiful how DY implements different techniques in the choreography, it starts from the grabbing with a Morote Seoi Nage, then De Ashi Barai into Uchi Mata to continue with a sacrifice technique such as Tomoe Nage and then another Morote Seoi Nage again on the table.
Ok it’s for movie purposes but even judo veterans can’t properly make this combination on the spot.
This is, in my opinion Donnie's best fight scene he's put on film. Shame most people haven't seen this movie.
You DO know Colin Chou... Matrix? The bodyguard to the Oracle? Yup that's him
One of the best, if not the best fight scene of Donnie Yen's movies. One of the best of action movies of the last 3 decades i.m.o. fight was insane
You should react to Donnie yens final fight scene, from special id 😎
I'll make sure to add it to the list! Had a few people ask for this one now
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 nice, the most realistic fighting of any movies too, everything isn't all fancy either, 😎
You missed the most important part: the emotions that builds up throughout the whole movie finally unleashed in the final fight you won’t feel the anger in the beating as much unless you watch the whole movie
Yah...that was an amazing build-up.
The 20+ minutes showdown was very much required, because there was an odd lack of action in the previous hour.
plus there's a whole sniper rifle scene before it
All those high level showcase of martial arts ends with a sweet chin music😂😂😂
Flash Point is a Hong Kong cop story ( Donnie Yen ) against a ruthless band of Vietnamese triads ( Colin Chou ).
Colin Chou is an underated Taiwanese action movie star. It is said while filming this fight scene, he got news of his sister's suicide in Taiwan but he stayed to finish filming so that everyone doesn't get hold up. After finished filming, he immediately flew back to Taiwan to attend his sister's funeral. Thatz 100% true professionalism.
Another GREAT Donnie Yen fight scene for you, the rooftop fight against Michael Woods in In The Line of Duty IV: Witness.
Actually that last kick is Bruce Lee's dragon kick
It's just a sidekick.
I love the scene where they both rest after falling off fromthe roof looking at each other, but it was deleted.
What makes you and your channel awesome is that you understand the fight and can read what happens in the fight, and analyze it,, and you are dedicating the channel to it... Unlike those other guys who just keep yelling and just hear ahhh,, ooohh, yayeks and don't know what is happening, you are awesome man.. Respect..
THIS is a great fight!!!!!!
one of my all time favorites!
@@BurridgeMartialArts604….. same here!! If you haven’t checked out an ole gem from golden harvest China……. Check out Jet Li’s “Fist of Legend!” At least 4 scenes in there you can react to!
I'm a martial artist, stuntman and fight choreographer from Singapore! I started my film career specially thanks to Donnie Yen! And yes, I'm a huge ass fan of him! I started mma because of him as well! The things you see here is true reflection of his prowess and skills!
Check out SPL and Special ID as well!
I just did do SPL (his scene with Sammo Hung) and a scene from special ID as well but I'd like to revisit more from them too!
That's so cool mate! Is there anything you're in we can watch??
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 yeap I saw the SPL reaction! Haha awesome man
I have my film productions channel and has produced a few martial arts film here and there. But I'm afraid not the standard of Donnie Yen :") haha
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 watch more of donnie yen fights from Ip man and Kung Fu jungle!
From Germany , thank you for you Videos ,!!!! Great Aktion ❤️ Love IT . Smart Guy !!
Thanks for watching!
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 thanks for answer
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 Big Martial arts Fan ,since 26 years !!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@andreaszahn1960 that is awesome! Have you trained at all?
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 no!! I am 41 years old , im With 13 years ca ,all Martial arts movies looked ,and train Home Alone kick Like Van Damme !!! Train Split at Home , No train in Martial Arts Gym. Today With 41 years ähm the Kicks Not so high 😂 , for a Fight it's OK hope so .
Thanks for intressting,sry English not so god. Greetings From Germany Duisburg ❤️❤️
Donnie Yen is known to pay those he does fight scenes with more money to go full contact. If I remember, this is one of Donnie Yen's more brutal fights and ends up with Collin Chou actually being knocked out.
one off the best raw fight scen in film history.. no much fake scen on here
Donnie Yen commented in an interview that believes that BJJ is the most practical style among all of the martial arts and he tries to incorporate that in his movies. But this movie has it hands down his best ass-kicking moment in cinema.. You can feel the rage in the blows.
Colin chow was also a part of Jackie Chan’s stunt team for a few movies he’s another excellent actor and director he also played in jet lis fist of legend as his brother and dojo leader
This was the best martial arts choreography from all Donnie Yen's movies.
It’s not really a debate. This is the best fight scene in history of cinema
It’s a tie between the raid movies and their final fights
No, not for everybody, there are someone else prefer Jakie Chan or Bruce Lee.
Nah Jackie Chan has better and this isnt even donnies best imo the flashpoint one is better
@@joshhhh8858 What about Jet Li?
@@anhaorach3446 He's also awesome. In my country, these three movie stars have their own fans. And some people like all three.
The little arm spin Donnie does is not necessary a fake. In traditional Kung fu theory the spinning of the arm collets the blood at the fist and allows you to punch quite a bit harder and feel less pain. Speed x mass = velocity. Velocity x precision = +😭. When mass is your fist even a few grams makes a world of difference.
Bruce Lee aside, Jackie Chan and Donnie Yen are my favorite martial artists / martial arts actors!
Donnie is CRIMINALLY underrated and not as well known as he should be!!!
scott adkins
Jet Li is not on your list?
This is the best ever fight scene from Donnie Yen. Saya rasa.
Donnie memperlihatkan skill martial art yang berbeda. Sangat memuaskan penikmat film action.
Awesome man! You should react to Donnie's "In the Line of Duty 4" fight scene where he goes against Michael Woods on the building's rooftop. Another top notch fight scene.
OMG!! That movie! That entire movie is filled with gold standard action fight choreography. Cynthia killed it. Donnie killed it. That movie has a special place in my heart.
I freaking LOVE this movie. New subscriber because of this video
You can watch Donnie Yen in SPL, Special ID and Kung Fu Killer as well. Donnie Yen and Scott Adkins are the top two martial arts actors. There are many great ones as well, but simply they can't compare to them.
I recommend some fights from Dragon Tiger Gate as well. Donnie Yen kicks ass in that too. It's a bit flashier since it's a comic book movie but still definitely holds up with Flash Point
That is one of my favorite martial arts films. You should definitely watch the whole thing.
Instant sub.
The scene I’ve never seen before, but as a martial artist the running commentary by someone with such an amount of knowledge covering so many styles, was educational.
Quality content!
Thank you so much my friend! Glad to have you on board
Somebody show him the other suplex from earlier in this movie.
The most beautiful suplex ever known to man.
Donnie one of the most diverse fighters on the planet!
You have seen Colin Chow before, is the guy who played Jet Li’s dad on the movie Fearless
Uma Thurman and Darryl Hannah Kill Bill Vol.2 trailer fight that was like WTF cause it looks like a street fight with a smidge of Martial Arts thrown in for fun 😊
I'm trying to remember if this is the movie or not but I think during one of Donnie's movies they basically just offered one of the stunt guys a few hundred more for Donnie to just knock him right out on camera. That said there are also stories of Donnie putting a bunch of guys in the hospital for harassing his girlfriend at a club.
woah! Apparently it was 8 guys he sent to the hospital, that is some straight up Ip Man shit right there
I know you wrote this months ago but i am pretty sure it was in flashpoint where he did that but honestly i think he has Done it more times aswell since where Donnie is from stunt guys dont get played to just show up like in america
That fight was Fing brutal
I love your Videos ! you should see (Kill Zone) Donnie Yen vs. Wu Jing , he actually break the other arm s they have to tape the knife on another guy hand to finish the scene
Yeah he’s well known for his triple touch kick like almost in all of his movies, even the ones where he isn’t the main lead protagonist like Blade 2? Maybe even Triple X and the upcoming John Wick 4 we may see his triple touch kick again.
You need to react to Kung fu killer. Every fight scene in that entire movie is great but of course the end fight scene with Donnie yen is amazing
Favourite Donnie Yen movie. Crazy moves!
Thanks for saying that sir for those who do or don’t celebrate holidays not just assuming everyone does
Also scenes from The Raid & The Raid 2 are good, too!
Remember guys this was made on 2008
Donnie actually wanted to start a MMA career but I think he had a knee injury that prevented him from pursuing it
This is why Donnie Yen is my fave
I like your review...honest and enjoyable ...more please
Donnie Yen has around 16 different martial arts background...his mother is a grandmaster in wushu and taichi
Donnie yen is an absolute wonder!
This was such a technically impressive fight scene.
Do more donnie yen movie reaction plz!!This guy is amazing ,is a real deal!🔥🔥🔥
According to the Internet, Donnie Yen is a BJJ purple belt and a Judo black belt.
You should check out Donnie Yen and Jet Li going head to head in Once Upon A Time In China 2
top 10 fights ever
Donnie Yen studied a bunch of martial arts: Tai Chi, Boxing, Kickboxing, Jeet Kune Do, Hapkido, Taekwondo, Karate, Muay Thai, Wrestling, BJJ, Judo, Wing Chun, and Wushu. It's no surprise he implements some of them in his movies.
Colin Chow he is actually really good!!! He is the Asian body guard character in the Matrix Trilogy.
Well first I was a huge martial arts fan since I was in middle school and watch a lot of martial arts films, like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Jet Li, and Donnie Yen. And they are all my heroes/ idols and I want to learn Taekwondo because I just love it so much and that I can defend myself and I can be a Master of Taekwondo and plus I have another favorite martial arts action star and his name is Scott Adkins and you should react to one of his fight scenes/his movies too.
The last fight scene from ''The Raid 2 - Berandal'' (Iko Uwais vs. Cecep Arif Rahman). Probably one of the best fight scenes I have ever watched.
I'm new to this channel, but the fight scene in ''SPL (Sha Po Lang)'' Donnie Yen vs. Wu Jing was great too. That fight was improvised from both Donnie and Jing, who wanted to see who could hit each other first.
Raid 1 and 2 were overrated and overchoreographed, nothing felt real. Amazing work but not fun to watch.
@@UGOkilleth
Are you sure you've seen part 1?
I'm asking because what you're saying reflects my feelings for the second part. The fights were well performed, but had absolutely no tension. I was bored the entire time.
In the first movie, the action was perfect, though. There was a build-up to every fight and it never seemed like there was a protagonist who couldn't die or get seriously harmed.
@@Kijinn I've seen part 1 and yes it is the better one of the two. Part 1 was much more intense, especially during the 2 v 1 fight. I just don't like how choreographed everything looked. It basically looked more like a dance rather than a fight, similar to the 70s kungfu movies but much faster. But maybe that's just me coming from Sammo Hung, Jackie Chan, and korean choreography style.
@@UGOkilleth
I see. My favorite fight in The Raid was the one between Yayan Ruhian (the antagonist in the 2 vs 1 fight) and Joe Taslim (the Special Forces leader). It seemed less obviously choreographed to me.
Could you spare the time to recommend a Korean movie with especially good martial arts?
Love Korean film making (they release better stuff than Hollywood), but haven't seen many martial arts centered movies yet.
@@Kijinn For korean, their choreography aren't spectacular but I appreciate the realism behind it. These movies aren't fight oriented but they had pretty good realistic fight scenes. Just to name a few, obvious ones are "Old Boy" and "Fighter in the Wind", "My Boss My Hero", "My Boss My Teacher", and "The Gangster, the Cop, the Devil".
One of my favourites police drama / action martial arts movie.
Little fun fact. When Donnie Yen was winding up his arm as if to punch, that's called a bolo punch. Originates from Filipono martial arts and made it's way into boxing. A few people who have used it effectively are Sugar Ray Leonard and Ray Jones Jr. Its mainly to showboat but it can be effective
Didn't know it had a name. Back when I was younger a Bolo punch is just what we called a haymaker
I think Donny Yen's fight with the multiple japanese karate fighters in Ip Man is definitely reviewable. Well, just a suggestion.
Both great martial artist but unfortunately there aren't many movies like this one anymore. Donnie remains my favorite living martial artist! Dragon Tiger Gate was another good one but kinda Crouching tiger Hidden Dragon-ish, so if you don't like that don't watch it but I love pretty much almost all Donnie Yen movies.
Killzone was a other great movie with a crazy knife vs baton fight scene towards the end if you want to check that out just look for Killzone alleyway fight scene I think on here.
Fun Fact: Collin Chou played the Jade Warlord in Forbidden Kingdom and he also played Seraph in the Matrix franchise a role that was offered to both Michelle Yeoh AND Jet Li both of whom turned it down.
This is literally the best of Donnie Yen's performance, sad to have just watched his new ones. Best fighters cant defeat aging.
He's made lots of great action films since Flashpoint. Sad to have watched those films? What kind of fan are you? 🤡🤡🤡. What are you talking about? 🤣🤣🤣
Twelve idiots commenting of something they know shit about. 🤡🤡🤡
Love the fights in this movie
Just found your channel lastnight bro. Idn what you do that's so appealing to me or why I enjoy it so much but, yes. Keep it up my guy. Big ups!
Collin Cho is so underrated but he's fhe ultimate villian in the Hong Kong Film industry
He is Seraph in Matrix though. In that movie, he was super badass and wasn't a villain
All the villain portrayal in this movie is just top notch. I feel so much anger for the villains that i wanted donnie to smash them good. Heck everyone was excellent in the movie.
The back alley fight in this movie is good too. Really like how the asian cinematography likes to just hold the camera steady at a distance so you can see what is going on. Too many cuts and shakes that only confuses you in western cinematography.
That was SPL different movie
You've seen Collin Chou, before this. For me, it was 'another' great martial arts movie called, "Red Wolf". But most people saw him in the Matrix where, "He can take you to see the Oracle, but first he must apologize! ".- Wingless
So that "fake" that you saw was not a fake and it wasn't rehearsed. I have the Movie disc with the behind the scenes take and he stated that they actually fought, using restrained but real punches. He said the reason he was swinging his hand was that half way through his hands were physically hurting and were in real pain, so to shake it off he kept shaking his hands
Love your play by play analyst 😂
Mate I've been coaching and teaching for so long now that it is just habit! Especially when I get a bit nervous behind the camera, habit takes over and I become a commentator
the villain is the actor from The Matrix Reloaded - Seraph
You are amazing,I enjoyed this vid.
Glad you enjoyed the video mate, thank you so much!!!
Never heard of this Collin Chou guy? The Matrix, he is Seraph.... the forbidden kingdom, he is the Jade Warlord