Some would argue that coming out of the box only to back in digitally again causes some quality issues. D to A then A to D. That is quite a lot of conversion. You haven’t experienced this? Thanks 👍🏼
You would think, but dude, conversion is so good nowadays. Even some of the cheapest converters you get in interfaces now are miles ahead of where they use to be and well over what is needed to create a industry standard mix if you know what you are doing. I've seen people create amazing recordings and mixes on 100 dollar interfaces. You just gotta be able to know/hear what you are doing. The problem with digital now is honestly it is TOO clean. It's like watching a TV show on one of those new 8k TVs, it looks so clean it looks unnatural. You don't have to worry about conversion jacking up your signal so bad it is unusable. Sometimes the hardest part is making the ultra clear digital signal seem natural, adding analog and room into the sound fixes a lot of problems. It has nothing to do with the actual quality of conversion.
Wow. Thank you so much for taking time to clearly explain this. I wish someone explained it this simple in my University Years. It would've not taken me about two years to wrap my head around it. My question is, Would this Alpha Link be compatible with the standard pro tools or would I need Pro Tools HD ? Thank you
hey man. I really do enjoy your videos. they are very educational and also encouraging. I always see using analog equipment as very hard but you really make it look easy. I have done live sound, which is not hard, but you incorporate the DAW which is awesome and also a bit intimidating 😂😂.
Thx for a great video. You opened up a whole new concept for my studio. I’ve had a 24channel EV M4 board for years but only used it for my PA system which I don’t have a band currently so it doesn’t get used. It has a direct out on each channel so i believe it would work? It’s not a balanced out though? Will that produce noise? I only have an 8 channel interface with 8 outs. So I believe fro what you said I could only have 6 ins on the interface because I need to have 2 for the master or summed bus? Thx!
Bro I love watching your videos , your work flow is awesome and you have everything setup very efficiently , really like the way you work , and it might be just me lol but are you processing your voice for these videos? because it needs a de-esser lol , little hard to keep listening , and I really like to hear your explanations because theyre awesome
Great video! I'm entertaining the idea of going out of the box. I'm planning to start by putting an analog mastering chain together (minus the limiter, that I really like in software)
I am having so many issues with routing my desk into my DAW. I bought myself a lovely Digital desk to upgrade from my old Audio Interface and since then have had nothing but problems. These 2 vids have given me some pointers but I still can't work out the process properly. This makes me sad.
how many analog external compressors needed for 16 tracks? i saw 2 in your rack, but do you use same those 2s compeessors in 16 tracks or u got some more for the rest 14 tracks?
Hey! I just got a small format console to integrate into my workflow. But and having trouble getting sound out of the board and into my speakers. I want to be able to use the master faders on the board as my stereo output, and be able to solo channels on the board and have it translate to my daw, but I think I’m missing a connection. How would I go about plugging in my speakers to the board to then be routed to like my stereo out in the daw? I’m using logic or pro tools fyi
Thanks for sharing your set up with us man, this is incredible! I want to accomplish something similar but on a smaller scale (16-ch mixer). Most 16-ch mixers nowadays have inserts but do not have direct outs. How can I accomplish getting post-fader/eq via inserts on a mixer of this size? I've read up on Y-cables but it seems like these are pre-fader (not sure if the one click trick changes this)
@@petegiant I'd been looking at a few of the Behringer Xenyx, Behringer Eurorack and Yamaha MGP units. I'd love to get my hands on a Mackie but they're hard to come across where I am
Sweet setup! Having to alter the mix (i.e. the band wants the guitar track a bit louder) after the fact must be a nightmare as you can't recall the settings used on the mix right?
I dont know if he prints the whole mix or if he separately prints the stems. If you print each stem individually, you could always just make the trcak louder digitally
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Maybe a stupid question, but recently got back to setting up a studio after 20yrs. I have a Presonus 2442, GL2800 , Apollo Twin and ProTools 2020.I'd like the GL2800 to work as my main, hands on mixer, the 2442 to act as my interface/ with the Apollo(I have ASIO4All) using all channels to record simultaneously multiple instruments. Id like the ability to record it all in Pro Tools, be able to add plug ins and or outside the box rack gear as well. Is this possible? Can the Presonus act as an interface for multiple recording inputs converting signals for Pro Tools? Does this make sense? Im old school and trying to figure it all out. Any help would be a blessing. Thank you in advance.
Do you have any concern with phase shifts by doing the D/A then A/D? Can you send a signal out and back in, then look at the start of the wave on the 2 channels?
First, you can get a phase shift from an EQ, maybe it is possible with a set up like this, but it has never been an issue. Second, people have been doing this for years and years with incredible success, it’s not like this was my creation. Of course there are things that happen through the converting process but with a good set of converters, it shouldn’t be an issue
Am i doing it all wrong or am i ok ? My daw has 16inputs and 16outputs..i have a 16in/out analog mixer, ..all the instrument mics "8 total" go into the mic inputs on analog mixer, each channel on mixer has individual out so i have 8 independent out going from mixer to daw..i dont route back to mixer from daw..i make my recording..mix in daw and record the 8 tracks to a stereo file, other than not being able to use outboard gear are there any pros or cons to what im doing ?
There you are just using your mixer as a recording mixer. Haven't you ever tried using it for mixing because for me it looks like you have 8 channels left you can send back from your DAW to your mixer for mixing. Maybe since you don't have an outboard gear, it will look redundancy doing so.
@@TrueSoundTV sometimes it seems so out of reach for me to attain a legit studio. I am working towards a PhD and life on a stipend from my program, but it just feels I’ve been poor for so long. A $100 piece of gear is a lot for me.
This video helped me understand so much! I always wondered how a Daw works simultaneously with a mixing board
This made it so simple
Muchas gracias por este video. Ha sido revelador para entender el flujo de sonido y aplicarlo en mi home studio
Mate. Thanks so much, this was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for taking us through the whole flow and process. Appreciate it.
Ok... it's time to pt. 2 today) Thanks for a great videos!
Wow, thanks for this video. I can't wait for the next video! Happy New Year to you bro, may God show you favour and be kind to you
Some would argue that coming out of the box only to back in digitally again causes some quality issues. D to A then A to D. That is quite a lot of conversion. You haven’t experienced this? Thanks 👍🏼
You would think, but dude, conversion is so good nowadays. Even some of the cheapest converters you get in interfaces now are miles ahead of where they use to be and well over what is needed to create a industry standard mix if you know what you are doing. I've seen people create amazing recordings and mixes on 100 dollar interfaces. You just gotta be able to know/hear what you are doing. The problem with digital now is honestly it is TOO clean. It's like watching a TV show on one of those new 8k TVs, it looks so clean it looks unnatural. You don't have to worry about conversion jacking up your signal so bad it is unusable. Sometimes the hardest part is making the ultra clear digital signal seem natural, adding analog and room into the sound fixes a lot of problems. It has nothing to do with the actual quality of conversion.
This is a very helpful video. It’s hoping to wrap my brain around if or how I want to use an analog console. Thank you 🙏🏽
I was waiting for this!!
Me too
Wow. Thank you so much for taking time to clearly explain this. I wish someone explained it this simple in my University Years. It would've not taken me about two years to wrap my head around it. My question is, Would this Alpha Link be compatible with the standard pro tools or would I need Pro Tools HD ?
Thank you
gr8.
Love my 160X compressors.
I can record using my mixer via direct outs to DAW, then with the flip of a switch... I can use the same mixer to do live mixdowns and stuff.
hey man. I really do enjoy your videos. they are very educational and also encouraging. I always see using analog equipment as very hard but you really make it look easy. I have done live sound, which is not hard, but you incorporate the DAW which is awesome and also a bit intimidating 😂😂.
Hey there, great video! But I'm just wondering, why are you still using sonar now that Cakewalk by bandlab exists?
Thx for a great video. You opened up a whole new concept for my studio. I’ve had a 24channel EV M4 board for years but only used it for my PA system which I don’t have a band currently so it doesn’t get used. It has a direct out on each channel so i believe it would work? It’s not a balanced out though? Will that produce noise? I only have an 8 channel interface with 8 outs. So I believe fro what you said I could only have 6 ins on the interface because I need to have 2 for the master or summed bus?
Thx!
Very informative lesson
Thanks Sir.
Cakewalk by Bandlab has an arranger feature for adding verses, making structural changes to a song/mix.
Bro I love watching your videos , your work flow is awesome and you have everything setup very efficiently , really like the way you work , and it might be just me lol but are you processing your voice for these videos? because it needs a de-esser lol , little hard to keep listening , and I really like to hear your explanations because theyre awesome
Great video! I'm entertaining the idea of going out of the box. I'm planning to start by putting an analog mastering chain together (minus the limiter, that I really like in software)
Thank you Ryan this helps alot
Thanks man for sharing this wealthy ideas with us. Pls doo you have pdf or diagram that illustrated all the routing ?
So where will we plug the main Out 1-2 on the Mixer table?? 2-TRACK IN ???❤
Thank you man!
So so interesting!
Sweet!! 👌🏽
I miss working on Sonar, wish they had a Mac version!
Update: I was wrong there's a Prototype downloading now.😁
Update: Will not work with anything above Mac OS High Sierra 🤒🤒🤒🤒
I am having so many issues with routing my desk into my DAW. I bought myself a lovely Digital desk to upgrade from my old Audio Interface and since then have had nothing but problems. These 2 vids have given me some pointers but I still can't work out the process properly. This makes me sad.
A ton of likes!
how many analog external compressors needed for 16 tracks? i saw 2 in your rack, but do you use same those 2s compeessors in 16 tracks or u got some more for the rest 14 tracks?
Hey! I just got a small format console to integrate into my workflow. But and having trouble getting sound out of the board and into my speakers. I want to be able to use the master faders on the board as my stereo output, and be able to solo channels on the board and have it translate to my daw, but I think I’m missing a connection. How would I go about plugging in my speakers to the board to then be routed to like my stereo out in the daw? I’m using logic or pro tools fyi
Thanks for sharing your set up with us man, this is incredible!
I want to accomplish something similar but on a smaller scale (16-ch mixer). Most 16-ch mixers nowadays have inserts but do not have direct outs. How can I accomplish getting post-fader/eq via inserts on a mixer of this size? I've read up on Y-cables but it seems like these are pre-fader (not sure if the one click trick changes this)
What mixer (make/model) are you looking at?
@@petegiant I'd been looking at a few of the Behringer Xenyx, Behringer Eurorack and Yamaha MGP units. I'd love to get my hands on a Mackie but they're hard to come across where I am
Thank you for this!!!!
Ok but what about the master bus in the daw? How do you route it to the mixing console?
Sweet setup!
Having to alter the mix (i.e. the band wants the guitar track a bit louder) after the fact must be a nightmare as you can't recall the settings used on the mix right?
Exactly my question
I dont know if he prints the whole mix or if he separately prints the stems. If you print each stem individually, you could always just make the trcak louder digitally
How are you getting the audio back into the daw ? are you also monitoring through the console ?
How did you setup the in/out on the track in your daw that you recorded the mix to the group faders?
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Peace. Do you have a video where you showed making those slats over the side panels? Thx
Please show is how you are using all these on music production
can it be re recorded into individual channel as well? in case we have to add some plug in inside the daw after the mix on the console?
Maybe a stupid question, but recently got back to setting up a studio after 20yrs. I have a Presonus 2442, GL2800 , Apollo Twin and ProTools 2020.I'd like the GL2800 to work as my main, hands on mixer, the 2442 to act as my interface/ with the Apollo(I have ASIO4All) using all channels to record simultaneously multiple instruments. Id like the ability to record it all in Pro Tools, be able to add plug ins and or outside the box rack gear as well. Is this possible? Can the Presonus act as an interface for multiple recording inputs converting signals for Pro Tools? Does this make sense? Im old school and trying to figure it all out. Any help would be a blessing. Thank you in advance.
great video ! lml
Do you have any concern with phase shifts by doing the D/A then A/D? Can you send a signal out and back in, then look at the start of the wave on the 2 channels?
First, you can get a phase shift from an EQ, maybe it is possible with a set up like this, but it has never been an issue. Second, people have been doing this for years and years with incredible success, it’s not like this was my creation. Of course there are things that happen through the converting process but with a good set of converters, it shouldn’t be an issue
Am i doing it all wrong or am i ok ? My daw has 16inputs and 16outputs..i have a 16in/out analog mixer, ..all the instrument mics "8 total" go into the mic inputs on analog mixer, each channel on mixer has individual out so i have 8 independent out going from mixer to daw..i dont route back to mixer from daw..i make my recording..mix in daw and record the 8 tracks to a stereo file, other than not being able to use outboard gear are there any pros or cons to what im doing ?
There you are just using your mixer as a recording mixer. Haven't you ever tried using it for mixing because for me it looks like you have 8 channels left you can send back from your DAW to your mixer for mixing. Maybe since you don't have an outboard gear, it will look redundancy doing so.
How do you have your patchbays routed? To all channel inserts?
When mixing analogue, Is it possible to make corrections after another session has been started? How do you restore the settings?
I think it’s time for dante?
First video was phenomenal but if you aren't familiar with Cakewalk this video is awful to try and understand.
Which mix console is this ?
How did you fund this studio ?
Been in music production for 22 years! I record, produce, mix, and master and that’s how I keep the doors open.
@@TrueSoundTV sometimes it seems so out of reach for me to attain a legit studio. I am working towards a PhD and life on a stipend from my program, but it just feels I’ve been poor for so long. A $100 piece of gear is a lot for me.
Very strange way of working.