Thanks for uploading. We just came to nef on HC also as a 10 man guild. We only had 30 minutes to try some pulls before the time was over for the raid but got it down to 60% in that time period by doing the strat that you're doing in the video, from what i've read and looked at we have now seen the entire fight so its just getting the mechanics down well enough. Hopefully it goes down next raid we have :)
@@saftsuparn3222 nice! Yah you've pretty much seen it all. The shadow sparks will happen more quickly towards the end, that's the only thing you haven't really seen so just be prepared for a bit more movement there
Tbf its pretty easy if you know the only trick. DBM is counting down the time to the meteroids. If the countdown reaches 1, move the adds. If the fire gets close to the adds, move the adds. Nothing more to do. Adds dont deal that much of dmg if they only get to like 20 stacks.
The Progress add tank did a really great breakdown of it here: th-cam.com/video/u5obDg0ru74/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CZbZdjL5t-gLYoPp&t=6103 But I'll likely make a more condensed video once I've gotten some experience doing it myself
Hello, I appreciate all that you do for the community, your videos are top notch and your strat on this fight makes it look soo smooth! I do have a couple questions though, would you mind sharing your DBM profile? I don't recall seeing such clear warnings for abilities on the fights in cata like in this video. Also are the ability count timers a separate WA pack or the DBM ones? Thank you!
Yeah thats a strat to adapt for my raid too. We only do normal nefarian but still I had to tank adds and nefarian in P1 which is tricky to get all adds befor nefarian lands
for the crackles at 60 (04:15), 50 (04:45), 40 (05:07) and 30% (05:40) you call "personals" everytime. how does this work out? I'm trying to figure out raid cds for our first kill, but 4 crackles in a row with personals does not compute with me.
On 10m the crackle damage is low enough that you don't need CDs to survive it. The personals call is more just a reminder for people to use whatever they've got just to help out the healers than it being an actual necessity
Amazing work big bro as always! Absolute tactical mastery and sync with the druid OT about turning the boss and him kiting the adds slowly, we will apply the same tactic in our runs. However we are a 25-man guild and would u recommend only one add tank there or two add tanks ? Because I struggle to get all adds on me as a prot pally since they are so many in 25man, would love to have your opinion on that! GG !
Thanks! You really want all of the adds to be on a single tank because it's tough for 2 people to simultaneously kite them properly. You will likely have a 3rd tank from phase 1 though, and that extra tank can briefly help pick up adds that get away on reset and drag them back to the add tank. But the add tank should get them off the other tank ASAP
Amazing clear! To get the massive p3 healing, were you just basically DS only? Also was the Druid doing anything special to survive just face tanking? (Even with add buff resets that’s a lot of damage!)
Thanks! Just doing the standard rotation with some occasional short holds on DS if big burst is about to come. Feral wasn't really doing anything special to live, just cooldowns during high add stacks/crackle. Since I'm able to mostly self sustain, he has 3 healers mainly focusing on him
@@SubtleFW thinking of trying this, but I’ve gotten haste to 7.56 with mastery like 19% and exp like 10 (obv hit cap)… you still think my hate build better for this fight Strat than the mastery stack? Or is haste just bis survivability now?
@@weissman3053 ElvUI, Plater, WeakAuras, DBM, and Details are the main ones I use. You can find my plater profile, elvui profile, and weakaura packs here: wago.io/p/SubtleFW
Hello brother , amazing videos , watching and following you!Thanks for what you doing.Can I dare ask a question if u know some friends making same videos playing fire mage to notice something from you to upgrade my gameplay and dps.
Thanks for uploading. We just came to nef on HC also as a 10 man guild. We only had 30 minutes to try some pulls before the time was over for the raid but got it down to 60% in that time period by doing the strat that you're doing in the video, from what i've read and looked at we have now seen the entire fight so its just getting the mechanics down well enough. Hopefully it goes down next raid we have :)
@@saftsuparn3222 nice! Yah you've pretty much seen it all. The shadow sparks will happen more quickly towards the end, that's the only thing you haven't really seen so just be prepared for a bit more movement there
Enjoying your contents since wrath phase 1 keep up the good work sir. Extremely educational.
Since the Nefarian Add Tank role is so difficult, do you think you'll make a specialized video with tips and tricks for that role to help tanks out?
Tbf its pretty easy if you know the only trick. DBM is counting down the time to the meteroids. If the countdown reaches 1, move the adds. If the fire gets close to the adds, move the adds. Nothing more to do. Adds dont deal that much of dmg if they only get to like 20 stacks.
The Progress add tank did a really great breakdown of it here: th-cam.com/video/u5obDg0ru74/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CZbZdjL5t-gLYoPp&t=6103
But I'll likely make a more condensed video once I've gotten some experience doing it myself
Hello, I appreciate all that you do for the community, your videos are top notch and your strat on this fight makes it look soo smooth!
I do have a couple questions though, would you mind sharing your DBM profile? I don't recall seeing such clear warnings for abilities on the fights in cata like in this video. Also are the ability count timers a separate WA pack or the DBM ones?
Thank you!
Hey thanks! Happy to help. Here's my DBM profile: docs.google.com/document/d/1vQKZt-Cj3zGMpbEK2GhSBxHi-aqrghCe9sjQCVLX5TU/edit?usp=sharing
@@SubtleFW Awesome! thank you
Super impressive kill, the double dragon tanking looked dangerous but very effective to leave phase 1 quickly.
Yeah thats a strat to adapt for my raid too. We only do normal nefarian but still I had to tank adds and nefarian in P1 which is tricky to get all adds befor nefarian lands
for the crackles at 60 (04:15), 50 (04:45), 40 (05:07) and 30% (05:40) you call "personals" everytime. how does this work out? I'm trying to figure out raid cds for our first kill, but 4 crackles in a row with personals does not compute with me.
On 10m the crackle damage is low enough that you don't need CDs to survive it. The personals call is more just a reminder for people to use whatever they've got just to help out the healers than it being an actual necessity
Amazing work big bro as always! Absolute tactical mastery and sync with the druid OT about turning the boss and him kiting the adds slowly, we will apply the same tactic in our runs. However we are a 25-man guild and would u recommend only one add tank there or two add tanks ? Because I struggle to get all adds on me as a prot pally since they are so many in 25man, would love to have your opinion on that! GG !
Thanks! You really want all of the adds to be on a single tank because it's tough for 2 people to simultaneously kite them properly. You will likely have a 3rd tank from phase 1 though, and that extra tank can briefly help pick up adds that get away on reset and drag them back to the add tank. But the add tank should get them off the other tank ASAP
How are you face Tanking Ony and Nef P1?? I thought they had to be seperate?
Just run CDs the whole time and you can survive for a while
Amazing clear! To get the massive p3 healing, were you just basically DS only?
Also was the Druid doing anything special to survive just face tanking? (Even with add buff resets that’s a lot of damage!)
Thanks! Just doing the standard rotation with some occasional short holds on DS if big burst is about to come. Feral wasn't really doing anything special to live, just cooldowns during high add stacks/crackle. Since I'm able to mostly self sustain, he has 3 healers mainly focusing on him
@@SubtleFW still really, really impressive control on what is probably the hardest boss of the tier!
Can you guys tell me what DS is?
@@Kinguslav1 Death Strike
Which add on is tracking your external defensive cooldowns like Sac and Pain Sup?
Method Raid Tools
Can you release the tank guide for the rest of BOT? It'd be really helpful.
Yah will have those out soon
Remember roughly what rune regen rate was? Got me playing with more haste and curious.
This is my 3rd dk and it doesn't have much haste yet. Probably like 7.9 or so at the time
@@SubtleFW thinking of trying this, but I’ve gotten haste to 7.56 with mastery like 19% and exp like 10 (obv hit cap)… you still think my hate build better for this fight Strat than the mastery stack? Or is haste just bis survivability now?
Mast and haste are really close for survivability but haste gives you damage too. So I'm always going haste
Hey, what would you say, min. ilvl is for BDK to tank this fight?
Hey, 346+ is solid but most people are in the 350s+ by the time they kill it
How do you get the fire so its never landing on the group?
He shoots it at the adds, so the adds just need to be far away
why did nobody take dmg from the onyxia discharge?
If you just stand kinda on her back leg during lightning it won't hit you
@@SubtleFW There's a what?
I thought the tactic was to push two crackles phase 1, then kill Ony?
That's more for 25m where the Crackle does more damage so you want to get some of your raid CDs rolling early so you need fewer for P3
@@SubtleFW I see, tyvm
Brother, I need all of your addons. Please send me a link XD
@@weissman3053 ElvUI, Plater, WeakAuras, DBM, and Details are the main ones I use. You can find my plater profile, elvui profile, and weakaura packs here: wago.io/p/SubtleFW
your raid must be pretty well geared to not even split the dragons in phase 1
Just gotta use a lot of CDs. I think this was from week 2 or 3 so we were still mostly pre-bis
Grats on the kill homie!
Thanks!
what is a bdk? Bad dad kila?
That's right
the music makes it look easy.
its not.
Hello brother , amazing videos , watching and following you!Thanks for what you doing.Can I dare ask a question if u know some friends making same videos playing fire mage to notice something from you to upgrade my gameplay and dps.
Hey thanks! Unfortunately I dont know of any fire mages