The Weird Flaw Plaguing Skyscraper Windows

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  • @lequanghuy6027
    @lequanghuy6027 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4014

    -Refused to do a 3 million $ replacement
    -Killed a mother, spent 18 million $ in settlement, and still have to do the replacement after that
    I wonder how many corporate decisions ended up that way

    • @MartinPittBradley
      @MartinPittBradley 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +514

      Sadly, the strategy usually works, especially when you factor in that short-term incentives encourage rolling the dice on this being the next guy’s problem

    • @barryrobbins7694
      @barryrobbins7694 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +233

      Sadly, this type of short-term thinking happens all the time. It is particularly galling when lives are at stake. Lethality or not, those making the risk assessments are often not knowledgeable enough to assess the full complexity of the risk - it’s closer to a guess.

    • @cho4d
      @cho4d 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +162

      "Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."

    • @bmortloff
      @bmortloff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      ​@@freetolook3727 why just Ford? They all do it.

    • @comradeinternet467
      @comradeinternet467 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      All of them. Safety regulations are written in blood.

  • @Neccoguy21
    @Neccoguy21 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +201

    The irony of keeping up scaffolding (a non-permanent structure) permanently in the name of safe building facade inspections is not lost on me.

  • @IOUaUsername
    @IOUaUsername 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +633

    Building thermal engineer here. Low E glass films and coatings don't change the radiated heat absorbed from sunlight. They change the conductive heat transfer, so that the wind doesn't pull heat through the glass as easily. Regular tints absorb light rather than letting it through the glass, and mirror tints reflect that light rather than absorbing it. So a mirror tint is the only thing which will reduce the heating of the glass itself.

    • @EMNstar
      @EMNstar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Will that affect the temperature outside the building?

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Cheers

    • @donchristie420
      @donchristie420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks for the info

    • @CatsCatsCats-qs6cx
      @CatsCatsCats-qs6cx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Former glass tempering furnace operator here. Tempering low-E isn't much different than tempering clear glass of the same thickness. Tempering tinted is faster. Glass with the Solarban/Sunguard coatings based on indium tin oxide are different. They take much longer to process and are more likely to break or bow, sometimes ending up in the quench pans, sometimes after it appears to be fine, and breaks sometime after it's placed in the harp racks, and worst of all, cracking in the furnace.

    • @animefan3120
      @animefan3120 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​​​​@@CatsCatsCats-qs6cxso I don't know but to me it seems obvious stick on the outside the same thing people use as screen protectors so that if the glass does crack its atleast still held together to be replaced rather then displaced and not like the film that was talked about but a thin sapphire or plexiglass one as a thin sheet and it will also take on some of the heat instead of the window alone and maybe they can get one with a coating that will reduce heat it would be cheaper then buying the whole window with that sort of effect and unlike the laminated glass if water gets in between this and the window it can be pushed out like with window tint

  • @mrtechknowlogy
    @mrtechknowlogy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +292

    Contract Glazier here,
    This video is awesome and explains my job of assembling the building envelope so well, and by one of my favorite youtubers! but a couple of notes:
    First, low e is rarely a film these days, now it is a coating applied to the glass just after the float process.
    second, Wind load is often miscalculated, and reduced to a simple "wind factor" for different jurisdictions that doesn't actually give enough information to us glaziers to determine if thicker or laminated glass is required.
    third, 99.99% of modern buildings are glazed with 1" IG units consisting clear tempered glass. many times, a cracked window is brushed off as it is on the outer lite and therefore the resident or tenant will feel its ok so long as outside air isn't getting inside.
    Fourth, heat strengthened glass is no longer standard, and sometimes even not code. Nowadays, if you want stronger glass, you purchase what is called heat soaked tempered glass, which is standard tempered glass that is "soaked" in a heated oven, and will break roughly 50% of the panels and the panels that survive are rated to only break 1/100,000 times.
    Fifth, EVA is being removed in many cases for its ability to absorb moisture. PVB on the other hand does not have this down side. SGP is also used as a lamination layer where structure is needed as it is a stiff interlayer allowing the glass to remain in place and in shape once the individual lites have burst.
    Sixth, $3,000,000 is a 1990 price for the replacement for sure, modern glaziers would charge closer to 26,000,000 to replace all the glass in the CNA building with current safety and energy standards.
    Lastly, many of these standards and safety requirements are not looked at by the owner or contractors, the ARCHITECHT dictates their standards and specifications for the building, and if they dont spec the safest material, we as contractors wont price the safest material, as we don't want to lose the bid to a company that doesn't care since safety has an additional cost, so while we do care, we can't do much other than plead with the general contractor to plead with the architect.

    • @Eidolon1andOnly
      @Eidolon1andOnly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Reading more about the story, it was in 1996 when CNA got the replacement cost estimate of $3,500,000 (the spending power equivalent of $7,000,000 today) with the tragedy occuring in 1999 and a $18,000,000 settlement paid out to the family in 2002 and an additional ~$500,000 paid in settlement with the city which included $250,000 in fines. So in 2002 they paid out a total of approximately $18,500,000, and while adjusting for inflation that would be ~$34,230,698 today.
      Kinda insane to think about just how much all those safety requirements and measure might have driven up the cost of replacement and installation of windows between 1996 and 2024, but even still would be a bargain compared to how much it would cost to payout settlements for any wrongful "endings" lawsuits that could result in not investing in doing the right thing. $26M to replace vs $34M+ in settlements and legal fees.

    • @CapSora
      @CapSora 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Thanks for the detailed breakdown, that was quite informative!

    • @brutongaster8184
      @brutongaster8184 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      +super good information thanks for adding in onto an already really interesting video/story

    • @troyhidvegi
      @troyhidvegi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So the old glass that fell on the mother was thick single pane plate? If it was from 1975 it had to be something scary like that.

    • @longiusaescius2537
      @longiusaescius2537 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks

  • @ninjanerdstudent6937
    @ninjanerdstudent6937 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +445

    I am impressed that he was willing to stand under that precarious tower. Imagine the headline: "Architect Struck By Falling Glass While Making A Documentary About Falling Glass."

    • @ZanyCat
      @ZanyCat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      He says in the video that they replaced all the windows...

  • @petergerdes1094
    @petergerdes1094 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +378

    Thank you for saying "inaccurately balance risk and cost" rather than pretending we don't have to balance risk and cost.

  • @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944
    @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +254

    I went to college in Boston in the mid 1970s. When I moved there, the John Hancock Tower in Copley Square had just been completed after terrific problems with its glass curtain wall. About half of the building's glass had popped out and fallen to the street during construction. For years most of the tower's facade was covered in plywood panels. People joked that it was "the tallest wooden building in the world." By the time I moved to Boston all the glass panels had been replaced, but the memories were still very fresh. While the original glass was a major part of the problem, it turned out that the building was oscillating in the wind far more than anticipated, which contributed to the problems with the glass. The building needed to be structurally reinforced, at great cost. Fortunately, it hadn't been occupied yet, but as a result the opening was delayed by about four years. It is a beautiful feat of architectural sculpture, due to its shape and reflective glass. From certain vantage points ot practically disappears or seems like a two-dimensional cutout on the skyline. From the structural point of view, it was a powerful and very expensive object lesson in engineering hubris.

    • @stewarthicks
      @stewarthicks  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      wow, I guess so!

    • @Liisa3139
      @Liisa3139 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I wonder how many birds die as they hit the glass.

    • @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944
      @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @brunodesrosiers266 Replacing the whole curtain wall system makes perfect sense to me. When I tried to find out exactly what had gone wrong I kept running into nondisclosure agreements made in response to lawsuits, but this was many decades ago and I don't know whether those agreements are still in effect. Despite the colossal failure, it didn't seem to affect IM Pei's (the architect's) practice too badly.

    • @mretaoin1
      @mretaoin1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It was a mess. The city had to close the streets for blocks around when the wind blew.
      After the the original windows were replaced, you could find used John Hancock windows in resale shops throughout New England. I saw some.

    • @GenesisTheKitty
      @GenesisTheKitty 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Liisa3139 The overwhelming percentage of birds that die in human settlements die due to outdoor house cats killing them.

  • @riley1636
    @riley1636 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +328

    Even if a tempered glass was more likely to fall out when breaking, it still feels safer to have a higher probability of minor injury vs a lower probability of serious injury or potential death. Minimizing catastrophe (like the tragic death of the mom) feels more important than minimizing injury. We need to consider failure modes in addition to failure likelihoods. That film worsens the failure mode and should never have been considered.

    • @renatanovato9460
      @renatanovato9460 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I don't know if it would be a minor injury given the height of the fall

    • @riley1636
      @riley1636 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      @@renatanovato9460 wind resistance is significant for small objects. height isnt that big of a deal. example: dropping a penny off the empire state building never actually hits the ground. as long as it's not shaped like an arrow or a bullet (aerodynamic) or really big, it should be fine. at the very least, way way better.
      edit: i forgot that the mass is actually a pretty major point too. myth busters shot pennies at 65mph and they were unable to penetrate anything because their mass was so low. less mass means less momentum (even at high speeds) which means less transfer of energy and less impact.

    • @Helladamnleet
      @Helladamnleet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      @@renatanovato9460 As someone who has been hailed on: It would feel a lot better than being killed.

    • @gonelucid
      @gonelucid 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      A penny dropped wouldnt hit the ground?? ​@riley1636

    • @riley1636
      @riley1636 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gonelucid Yes. The classic "penny off the Empire State Building will kill you" Pennies dropped off the Empire State Building just get blown onto the floors below. This is what I was referring to. It's besides the point though, even if they did hit you they'd still only cause minor injury. Same with tiny balls of glass from tempered glass shattering.

  • @jowjor
    @jowjor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3096

    Windows keeps crashing, as usual.

    • @Madmonstermax22
      @Madmonstermax22 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

      Watch out for the blue shards of death

    • @oxylepy2
      @oxylepy2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      Yeah, easy solution is just to replace the Windows with some Mint.

    • @triadwarfare
      @triadwarfare 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Widows keep crashing? What happened to their former husbands?

    • @trentcard
      @trentcard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thank you, jowjor

    • @Valenslays
      @Valenslays 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except the mint only works 10% of the time and most of the time won't be compatible with what you're trying to do ​@@oxylepy2

  • @mikecurry6847
    @mikecurry6847 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Wow for most of this video, I didn't think the building owner was _that_ negligent. But then when he said that the window that fell and killed someone _had_ the film on it and just was put off and pushed down the list of repairs really changed it for me. Can you imagine being one of their family members? The building is freaking red so it catches your eye. I bet every time they see it, it brings back some part of the pain from losing them. It's ironic too that it would be a red building. It's almost like they have been warning people to stay away since the beginning because red often means danger

  • @BS-vx8dg
    @BS-vx8dg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Stewart, this was one of your best. Informative and timely and your tone was appropriate throughout.

  • @TradieTrev
    @TradieTrev 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Great video Stewart, I'm going for a job interview tomorrow for a glass manufacturer and you bring up some great points of how the designs can fail.

    • @CrazedComposure
      @CrazedComposure 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      report back, let us know how the interview goes! Did you use anything you learned from Stewart to impress them lol

    • @TradieTrev
      @TradieTrev 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@CrazedComposure It went well, the facility has an automated line which does take out some of the human factors like delamination due to moisture.

  • @norlockv
    @norlockv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    The loss of windows at the Sears Tower came from failures in the outer skin of the glass. Slag from welding on higher floors scarred the glass below allowing it to fail.

    • @RacoonT.V
      @RacoonT.V 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a Son of Contruction workers n welders that’s sad They know their work Is suppose to test time my father in law 70 years old when we ride around the city we see atonnof building he set 30-40 years ago standing strong

  • @stickynorth
    @stickynorth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Canada's tallest tower outside of Toronto, the 251m tall Stantec Tower, in Edmonton has been notorious for his shiny glass facade cracking and smashing into the ground below ever since it was opened back in 2018... For a while there was a pane a month falling from the tower it seemed. While it may not have been that bad it did kill all semblance of pedestrian traffic in the area and as a result a lot of the development in the surrounding ICE District has failed to flourish. Food hall? Still just a shell 6 years later. Cinema complex? Scrapped. Pharmacy? Shuttered after less than a year in business... I know I've only been to it twice or thrice since it opened and I basically sprinted through the plaza on the way to the arena. Maybe there's something to be said for more traditional facade materials besides wafers of melted sand...

    • @ColtraneTaylor
      @ColtraneTaylor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm happy to know this. Edmonton just keeps on failing.

  • @CanCobb
    @CanCobb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    omg. When you're hear that the falling pane was one of the "repaired," windows, you can't help but feel your stomach drop. There have been a number of pieces of glass fall here (Calgary) but to my knowledge, no one has been killed. We are in an area with extreme winds similar to Chicago: it's not unusual to have 60mph straight line winds once or twice a year, and every year has many days with 50mph winds. As far as I know, that's at the surface; I'm not sure what it is in high rises. I believe many condo buildings have bylaws regarding securing things on their balconies. I'd be very curious what they've done with the fenestration here regarding heat treatments, because we also have a huge diurnal variation in temperature. Sunny days can rise from 32F to 70F air temperature, and I'm not sure what that would translate to for glass surface temps in the sun.

  • @Ron-rs2zl
    @Ron-rs2zl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1304

    It's always cheaper to do the right thing. CNA could have replaced the windows first and saved $18 million and someone's mother.

    • @wheeliebeast7679
      @wheeliebeast7679 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +174

      .....in the long term. The problem is a short-term profit mindset, especially among geezer executives who won't be around to deal with the long-term consequences of going cheap.

    • @twincast2005
      @twincast2005 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

      Even the cheaper solution would've been fine in this case, as it gave them ample warning time, if they had bothered to immediately replace any cracked windows held in place by the film instead of letting them sit there for months until it failed.

    • @borntoclimb7116
      @borntoclimb7116 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

    • @heated817
      @heated817 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Economic principles like present values tell us that profit motivated people will always choose money now over money in the future. Save money now by cutting costs means investing and growing that money for the firm to have more later so much more later that it's worth ignoring dangerous faulty designs because it's worth taking the risk that something could maybe happen later on and just paying the legal fees to deal with it. Something did happen? This is fine legal fees will be paid for with returns made off capital that was invested instead of being spent on repairs.

    • @heated817
      @heated817 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@wheeliebeast7679its not they wont be around its that it is more profitable to invest that money instead of repairing things. Just take some of the returns on that investment to cover any legal liability that might happen in the future.

  • @calmeilles
    @calmeilles 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    The New York sidewalk "sheds" aren't there semi-permanently either because they're needed for inspections (they aren't) or because they'd be expensive to remove. Instead each one represents an instance where a potentially dangerous façade has been identified by inspection and so the protective shed mandated but it's much less expensive to pay the fines imposed by Local Law 11 - not revised since it was introduced - annually for not doing the repair than it would be to repair the building. If the city would just update it's schedules of fines in line with inflation more repairs would be done and so more sheds taken away. Just another example of New Cork City's love of incompetent governance.

    • @xonor13
      @xonor13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It makes so much sense now. Last time I visited NYC, like 50% of the sidewalks were covered by these scaffolds. I had no clue I was walking under a potential death trap that building owners don't feel like fixing.
      Now I understand why people don't want to live in NYC anymore.

  • @Josh-yr7gd
    @Josh-yr7gd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The 32 story Anthony J. Celebrezze federal building in Cleveland, Ohio, built in 1967, had issues with glass falling out. Moisture was being trapped inside and minor repairs had been done throughout the decades as quick fixes. But due to growing issues with safety and energy costs, something major had to be done, without disturbing the daily activities of the tenants. So, the entire building was wrapped with a new curtain wall of windows outside the existing windows. This was completed in 2015 for about $120 million. It looks like a brand new building now, but if you look closely you can still see the original windows behind the new facade.

    • @pcno2832
      @pcno2832 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Safety is as good a reason as any for that kind of project. I live near a downtown building that was enclosed that way in the 1950s; from a distance, it looked like a giant trailer stuck between two masonry buildings. About 40 years ago, they peeled off the cladding system and revealed a handsome Victorian-era brick building I had never seen before. I've seen stories about other old buildings covered up the same way when their style went out of fashion, then uncovered as fashions changed again.

  • @BlownMacTruck
    @BlownMacTruck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    The Bernoulli effect may not be a commonly understood concept, but pretty much everyone in Chicago gets it on practically an instinctual level. Walking around a tall building between the high pressure and leeward sides allows you to experience the effect firsthand - watch as people brace themselves as they enter the low pressure zone and also pay attention to where the smokers gather (lol).

    • @stickynorth
      @stickynorth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I'm surprised that even after all this time most Windy City towers are still incredibly blocky. You'd think given the stresses put on them more Marina City-style buildings would have risen... Alas...

  • @ntatenarin
    @ntatenarin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    When I visit a skyscraper with floor to ceiling glass, I freak out imagining walking into them and the glass falling out.

  • @drewzero1
    @drewzero1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

    Car side windows are tempered, and windshields are laminated. It's interesting to see how that works out at a larger scale!

    • @AcridWhistle
      @AcridWhistle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Be very careful, a lot of cars produced 2018 or 2020 and later now often have front side laminate windows. Look for information near the bottom right of the window, look at all 4 of your windows. This was due to federal requirements on ejection / limbs outside vehicle in rollovers.
      So those escape / safety tools no longer work on laminate, they just cause a small crack.

    • @drewzero1
      @drewzero1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@AcridWhistle Good to know! I haven't kept up with new cars since leaving the automotive field a decade ago. I like my 80s and 90s cars too much.

    • @wokekoala3888
      @wokekoala3888 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@AcridWhistlefire academy student here, thanks for letting me know, I'll keep it in mind for the future.

    • @rjgaynor8
      @rjgaynor8 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes thank you. This guy calls it tempered glass when it’s laminated glass. Makes me wonder how much else he got wrong if he can’t get the windshield glass correct.

    • @snorman1911
      @snorman1911 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@rjgaynor8 and the clip that followed even described laminated glass!

  • @PixelRunnerYT
    @PixelRunnerYT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Imagine just walking down the sidewalk and seeing a guy talking to a camera about windows crashing down from the very building you're walking by, killing pedestrians

  • @GullibleSkeptic
    @GullibleSkeptic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Fascinating video! Would it be possible for you to do a video on the challenges of converting old office buildings into housing? That seems to be gettin a lot of steam lately

  • @evancappe
    @evancappe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Aeon Tower's twin in Toronto (First Canadian Place - it's the same building, but with the windows oriented horizontally rather than vertically) had a similar problem - one of its Carrera marble slabs fell off the facade in 2007, with many more at risk to do the same. The marble was removed, and the facade replaced, in the early 2010s - primarily with white glass tiles. Cost was CDN$130 million (US$96 million).

  • @nannerz1994
    @nannerz1994 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    And that's why the wind is so bad in Chicago because you've got all different shapes of buildings and that wind is coming off the lake like nobody's business

  • @PghPA81
    @PghPA81 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I worked on the recladding the Aon Center in the 1980s (at the time it was the Amoco building). I was in my 20s and wasn't licensed yet. Definitely an educational experience.

  • @nekto4658
    @nekto4658 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is like one of my worst nightmares that you lean on a stirdy skyscraper window but it actually breaks

    • @lindadeeds5326
      @lindadeeds5326 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I would never lean on a skyscraper window for exactly that reason! 😂

  • @aw412
    @aw412 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    My favorite channel! Please do a video on how to transform bankrupted and empty neighborhoods… In Detroit we have whole neighborhoods that are empty and poor with thousands of abandoned homes and empty lots. How can the people of the city rebuild it? Is gentrification inevitable? Are there examples of a local population taking advantage of that situation and improving their conditions? How would an architect approach the problem or even think about it?

    • @TheOfficialOriginalChad
      @TheOfficialOriginalChad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      These are questions more centered around City Planning than Stewart usually covers and specializes in, but I too would very much like to see this video.
      There’s not going to be an easy answer. Maybe Canada can buy it 😅

    • @sarahwatts7152
      @sarahwatts7152 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheOfficialOriginalChad I agree, particularly as I'm interested in examples of urban gardens that you see in Detroit

    • @CrankyHermit
      @CrankyHermit 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      'New urbanist' planners have extensive experience with this, and have accumulated a lot of knowledge about making safe, interesting places that will endure and inspire. Mixed-use zoning and code reform are critical for the activation of lively, walkable streets, to foster individual entrepreneurial opportunities, and to enable long-term economic viability. Housing and employment options for residents of varying income, age and social strata are essential to maintain a thriving community, whether old or new. The availability of financing and insurance for such development must be secured, as well as the approval of government administrators, utility providers, fire protection districts and traffic engineers, among others. Certain levels of density, porosity and interconnection are necessary to ensure convenience and efficient mobility. Consideration must also be given to the need for outdoor public spaces and recreation, schools and civic institutions, restaurants, bars and coffee shops, retail areas and entertainment venues.
      Good planning work involves reviving and integrating successful development patterns from the past with the functional needs, values and aspirations of local modern life. The Congress for New Urbanism (CNU) promotes and supports these principles, and they're having a significant influence on planning policy in North America and elsewhere.
      Many architectural and planning firms now specialize in this field, and a wide range of beautiful and useful books have appeared in recent years. There are also numerous informative lectures on TH-cam, from CNU members and others. If you're interested, look for talks by Andres Duany, Jeff Speck, Victor Dover, Leon Krier, and Stefanos Polyzoides for a start, and for the work of firms such as DPZ, Dover Kohl and Placemakers.

    • @TheOfficialOriginalChad
      @TheOfficialOriginalChad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CrankyHermit what a wealth of information

    • @viktorakhmedov3442
      @viktorakhmedov3442 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TRUMP 2024 IS THE ANSWER

  • @Lifes2short2hurry
    @Lifes2short2hurry 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I LOVE videos like this with more building science in them! The relationship between the art & engineering halves of architecture is not commonly talked about, at least that I've seen on TH-cam.

  • @HarveyIves
    @HarveyIves 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Stewart, do you have any recommendations for any books related to some of the topics you cover? I have been really enjoying your videos and would like to learn more

  • @nannerz1994
    @nannerz1994 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    2:36 that's why you don't take your marble for granite

    • @visioneerone
      @visioneerone 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      booooo

    • @CheapSushi
      @CheapSushi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      that pun rocked! I cracked a smile

  • @littlespinycactus
    @littlespinycactus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most instructive. In addition to giving me an insight into the principles and practice of glazing tall buildings, this vid taught me that cost:benefit analyses are fundamentally flawed.

  • @Millennial_Manc
    @Millennial_Manc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Keeps happening in Manchester UK too. Even some blocks of apartments with just a dozen floors have been completely covered in enormous stretchy nets for over 2 years to stop anything falling on pedestrians. All the residents have these ugly nets across their windows.

  • @usa1mac
    @usa1mac 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Another outstanding video Stewart. Keep up the great work!

  • @TheFinalByte
    @TheFinalByte 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was thinking about the glass falling out of buildings in SF recently, glad to hear that mentioned

  • @BGTuyau
    @BGTuyau 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not the stuff of your typical "architectural tour" A bit technical but required viewing for anyone who lives and works in -or merely visits- a skyscraper district. A cautionary tale and literally a matter of life and death -and, for those to whom it matters, dollars. Worthwhile and well done.

  • @regg217
    @regg217 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was working in the CNA building that day. On the 5th floor at Mack and Parker an insurance company. It was very sad when this happened. The kid was just trying to wake the mom up until a bystander grabbed the kid.

  • @LilyLewis771
    @LilyLewis771 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love all the gorgeous shots of the Chicago skyline you include- our city has such beautiful architecture, and your videos are not only informative but visually very pleasing to watch :)

  • @JohnathenSweeney
    @JohnathenSweeney 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In Cincinnati earlier this year, bricks fell off the top of the 600ish foot 90 year old Carew Tower, and they had to close the streets below

  • @tsbrownie
    @tsbrownie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In an extreme case of shedding glass and building parts: I was in Houston in 1983 after hurricane Alicia. The streets were covered in broken glass shards and metal facade parts. There was glass embedded in wood and dirt. One literally could not have survived being anywhere between buildings. Roof gravel had blow off of badly maintained roofs and broken windows that might have otherwise survived. It was not like the total loss of structures like the tornadoes I've seen, but it's the next worst thing.

  • @barryrobbins7694
    @barryrobbins7694 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    2:55 This building used to be the headquarters for Bank of America. It was the tallest building in the city when it was built. I remember looking down at the street below and momentarily thinking that the window in front of me might pop out. Apparently, the thought had some validity.

  • @PolkaDotVulpini
    @PolkaDotVulpini 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video, earned my subscription!
    I was interested just from the thumbnail, little did I know it was about an incident I didn't know about in front of a building I used to pass daily!
    Love the style and insights. Thank you

  • @JAYWASSERMAN
    @JAYWASSERMAN 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Slight correction on the car comparison. Windshields are laminated you even showed a pic of it. Side & rear windows are tempered and will shatter into little pieces

    • @rjgaynor8
      @rjgaynor8 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Moderne cars are starting use laminated glass on the side windows. Tempered glass has been found to be a potential risk for side airbags while laminate mitigates that risk.

  • @brettster3331
    @brettster3331 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Stewart, great video as usual.

  • @roccobierman4985
    @roccobierman4985 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent video, Stewart. As always.

  • @___Me_
    @___Me_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really love this channel! Keep up the good work Stewart, cheers from Berlin.

  • @Booka3141
    @Booka3141 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    4 months without a repair, while knowing the likely outcome is atrocious.

    • @robnobert
      @robnobert 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like your parents marriage

  • @scottyc7739
    @scottyc7739 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stewart, love your channel, super enjoy your love of architecture as I lived in "Chi town" for over nine years. The first fives years were with a CPA firm that seemed to include an invisible clause in my contract that I had to work only in 90+ story buildings! Summer: Sears Tower (don't care, I'll never call it by another name, no disrespect to "Willis") Winter: John Hancock Tower. Sadly, my roommate, another CPA worked in the CNA building and during the time of the accident you reference. So very sad...
    Even though I left being a CPA though a numbers person I love architecture and that which is in Chicago. However, given falling sheets of ice in the winter, breaking windows, falling sheets of marble (from the Amoco building, as I knew it back then). While this URL relates to a totally different subject, I believe it is applicable here given the starting point I want to include (5:01). th-cam.com/video/DutJLb-c0vs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nagYrDyFMa7NKPb0&t=301. I appreciate the inspiration, but wake up!
    Stewart, I tend to visit Chicago in May & November. Careful, I might just reach out and hug ya! So appreciate the work! Just sayin'

  • @LauraTenora
    @LauraTenora 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I used to live in Chicago when that incident occurred. I never forgot about it.

  • @jespersort1
    @jespersort1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Steward, a very important video. Simple and highly informative! The problem is going to become increasingly important due to to Klima change. Very few of our Ingenieurs are looking in to the consequences of the difference between our models and the reality we are already experiencing. The problem is particularly pronounced with listed modernist buildings here in Scandinavia where there are strict requirements to preserve geometry and, not least, relief. As you say, it is extremely important to be aware of the solar influence on the glas by even a modest relief effect and the resulting tensions. The pressure differences are an equally important factor, I am there where technically you might have to handle the facades more individually than we do now. Jesper from Copenhagen

  • @juangalicia1350
    @juangalicia1350 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    i have a constant if quite minor fear of this happening to me every time i walk around Chicago or any other city with tall buildings and this does not help me haha

  • @PWingert1966
    @PWingert1966 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Toronto, we had some new condo windows shattering and falling out. It turns out that the glass had too much nitrogen, creating irregular expansion and contraction and thus places where stress occurred. FYI: Those little black dots around the edges of car windshields control expansion and contraction at the places where it takes the most stress.

    • @lindadeeds5326
      @lindadeeds5326 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      So that’s what they are for! Thanks!

  • @noahnaugler7611
    @noahnaugler7611 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1:48 the shadowed glass does not remain the same temperature, it warms through conduction, albeit very slowly. the expansion does not occur with a discontinuity, but a significant differential

  • @PureWaterSolutions
    @PureWaterSolutions 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I almost got hit by a sheet of ice after a snowstorm in Midtown NYC on 6th ave! Ish was scary as fudge!

    • @barnacleboi2595
      @barnacleboi2595 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not even joking, I almost got hit by an 8 inch very floppy, just recently used dildo thrown out of a window of an apartment building in Manhattan. The reason why I knew it was just used a couple of minutes before is because as it landed on the pavement, it was completely glistening in female body fluids. I looked up and for a split second saw two people pop their smiling heads out of their balcony ledge and pop back in when they noticed me looking up.
      I wasn't too amused, but I can imagine they were laughing hysterically, which is exactly how I would have reacted if I almost hit someone on the head with a glistening and dripping moist dildo from my apartment balcony.
      I just kept walking cus that isn't even in my top 20 of the weirdest shit I've experienced in NYC.

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sheesh, a mom being struck by a huge slice of glass right next to her kid sounds like a scene straight from a slasher horror movie. I wonder how much of those 18 millions go straight to therapy over the years.

  • @CaedmonOS
    @CaedmonOS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Going from one moment walking with your mom to the next your mom being dead sounds truly horrifyingly traumatizing.

  • @gladbandanna
    @gladbandanna 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    “Buy once, cry once”.

  • @drr5117
    @drr5117 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate the effort needed to investigate this architectural problem. Very interesting. Would like to see more like this.

  • @lohphat
    @lohphat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    How could architects, who should know about material science, choose marble over granite not knowing of the probable outcome? Was anyone called out over the decision?

    • @lc3853
      @lc3853 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I'm an engineer. These decisions are always aesthetic after financial. You change materials when the owner can't afford it. If you say it can't be done, they hire another firm. Longevity is a future problem that doesn't exist for construction management or the list of temporary owners.

    • @MTBSPD
      @MTBSPD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Famous marble buildings include the Taj Mahal, Supreme Court, and Lincoln Memorial. It's a very common building material. The problem on this building may have been using it in thinner sheets, which then had problems. There is a challenge in materials science where manufacturers are always coming up with cheaper solutions, and sometimes it takes a few years before the problems with the new material or approach become known.

    • @pcno2832
      @pcno2832 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MTBSPD Don't they make panels of more flexible materials like cement-board, with thin marble veneer glued to it? I'd think that if they used the right cement, that would keep very much of the surface from chipping off at one time.

    • @tlotro625
      @tlotro625 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because they are architects, not engineers. Their primary goals are how good it looks and how usable it is. Even tho they do need engineering skills, they are limited, compared to those of an actual engineer. And both tend to work together on projects. It's not that architects need more engineering knowledge. It's that people in charge need to consult with engineers and not gamble with risks.

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    By far the best and one of the cheapest way to strengthen glass is by using a potassium salts treatment to reoganize the glass molucule structure.
    Makes glass over 15x stronger than regular tempered glass. It was invented during the 50s in east germany because of a glass shortage.
    After that glass shortage it has never really been used again up until recently: it's often used for things like smartphones where it's called "gorilla glass".
    Because production of that chemically treated glass has been basically 0 for half a century, production facilities for larger pieces still don't exist yet...

  • @TM10000
    @TM10000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They will need to modify those little sidewalk signs from 'Caution Falling Ice' to 'Caution Falling Ice/Windows/Facade'. That should solve the problem.

  • @davidinwashington
    @davidinwashington 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've worked in many high rises. In most of them, the windows were 20-40 years old and were still holding up well. Never encountered a broken window. Then we built one building about 12 years ago and have spontaneously lost about 30 windows to shattering over the years. Mostly ground floor windows but some at higher levels. We were quick to blame vandalism but have ruled that out. We never have come up with an adequate explanation, other than this is the first building constructed with Chinese made glass which may be of a lower quality.

  • @Undaglibenglaubengloben
    @Undaglibenglaubengloben 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Happy to live in stockholm where buildings have max 6 stories

  • @robbicu
    @robbicu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is an interesting episode, thoughtful and well researched as always.
    Why don't you consider doing an episode on movie palaces? Rapp and Rapp in general, and focus on the efforts to save the Uptown theatre, and show some of the fantastic theatres that have been lost and the few that are left.

  • @hefoxed
    @hefoxed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    This whole self certification thing seems like a bad process whatever industry it's in. Cough Boeing.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "internal affairs"

    • @via45
      @via45 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They probably had dpmething to do woth setting that up lol

  • @Jotdotcom
    @Jotdotcom 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so well presented and put together. Thank you.

  • @gothnate
    @gothnate 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This may be a dumb question, but why don't they just install the windows from the inside instead, make the casings surround the exterior of the window more, and allow an interior gap to give the window some expansion room? That way, if they do fall, they'll fall inside. And I know, they could still kill someone or seriously injure them, but it just seems like it would be easier to deal with that way.

  • @scottjohnson358
    @scottjohnson358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I lived in NYC several people were struck and/or killed by falling icicles or sheets of ice from skyscrapers.

  • @CmdrKeene
    @CmdrKeene 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:00 so it is as more like a design award than anything to do with sound practices?

  • @someinteresting
    @someinteresting 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A great video as usual. I know it isn't connected with your content but I have to say you're one of the few men who can pull up a moustache.

  • @larryscott3982
    @larryscott3982 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don’t like skyscrapers for a hundred reasons. Maybe unfounded reasons, then I see vids like this. And there’s plenty of building failure vids.

  • @renatanovato9460
    @renatanovato9460 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I lived in Sao Paulo for a while. In front of the building where I lived, they made a huge office tower with a glass facade. Once, during a wind storm, the glass panes started flying away. It was a wizard of Oz view.
    It is a totally different problem with similar results and most likely a similar source.

  • @NofoJake
    @NofoJake 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I got hit by a chunk of ice falling off my office building in the Loop a few years ago. It hit my foot … and it shocked me so much I almost pooped :-/

  • @mjdoombreed
    @mjdoombreed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First time I heard about the problem was from the pyramids on the north side of Indianapolis. The sloped side was all glass. As the temperature dropped. the panes shrank. Then, the glass would fall inside the building. It was a cost cutting measure that backfired after they had to replace all the glass on the south side of all 3 buildings.

  • @TristouMTL
    @TristouMTL 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another vote for @Dysprosio2's request for including metric. Actually, you often do -- even in this video, for example, when at 7:35 you say ‘6 mm or ¼" thick pieces of glass…’
    Building it into the script is kindest I suppose, but can get tiresome with lots of numbers, in which case just subtitles or perhaps flashing the metric equivalent on screen can help keep it simple for all. And it's often not a big problem - many people can picture common measurements such as the ¼" mentioned, for example, but might find pound-force per square inch as esoteric as pascals, and I easily understand that 165 lbs of force on windward windows is quite a lot smaller than the 1,000 lbs of suction force on the other side without the metric equivalents of 75 kg and 454 kg. But including metric really does help, rather like knowing a few phrases in a foreign language when on vacation.

  • @bethanybrookes8479
    @bethanybrookes8479 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only tower in the Town in my uni was fully demolished earlier this year after being closed pretty abruptly at the start of the 22-23 school year. What caused this was a falling broken window that resulted in an inspection of the building. During which it was declared unfit for purpose and demolishing and replacing was more feasible.

  • @ssdelko
    @ssdelko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Before I even hit the play button I was thinking CNA. Every time I walk by it I can’t help but think of all variables of that woman’s day that put her in that spot at that time.

  • @dlanor15
    @dlanor15 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember walking down those exact streets when I used to live in Chicago. Crazy thinking this could've happened to me in an instant if I was that unlucky.

  • @jerry2357
    @jerry2357 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:28 I think you mean “infra red” rather than “UV”. Heat radiation is infra red.

  • @2mains234
    @2mains234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been involved with a couple of jobs involving windows falling off buildings but I remember in one case the problem was the fixings. An error had been made whereby the fixings holding the window frames to the building could not take the additional loads caused by wind resulting in whole units falling off.

  • @Fanaro
    @Fanaro 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    10:55 They shouldn't be prototypes, except for in the vaguest sense. These are buildings, not toys. They can and do kill many people. I think you should treat the fact the fact that these buildings killed people much more seriously than you did in this video. It could have been you.

  • @gregorybrennan8539
    @gregorybrennan8539 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Frackiing also contributes because'it brings on earthquakes and well water polution. How o how can you wash windows'with poluted water.

  • @michaelsapienza8749
    @michaelsapienza8749 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I used to work as a designer for an architect's office and when the engineers tell you which buildings to avoid, you listen.

  • @OneEyedmm
    @OneEyedmm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crazy. My mom worked for CNA for years out of Portland. She ended up leaving after my grandfather died to a company that treated her much better (even allowed her 2 weeks paid vacation right when she started, to handle gramp’s funeral arrangements and such).

  • @walkabout16
    @walkabout16 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In towers tall, where dreams ascend,
    Glass windows gleam, a skyward trend.
    Yet amid the heights, a flaw unfurls,
    A strange affliction, a plight of worlds.
    The Weird Flaw Plaguing Skyscraper Windows,
    A tale of caution, where danger grows.
    From Chicago's CNA, the story's told,
    Of windows falling, a fear unfold.
    In design's embrace, they're set with care,
    But sometimes fate's whims, they cannot bear.
    Physics at play, a delicate dance,
    Where forces unseen, may wreak their chance.
    From towering heights, they meet the ground,
    With a shatter loud, a mournful sound.
    Why does this happen? Many inquire,
    As shards cascade, like tears of fire.
    In this video's realm, we delve deep,
    Exploring secrets, the reasons to keep.
    From stress to strain, and winds that blow,
    To flaws unseen, that silently grow.
    Prevention's key, a vigilant eye,
    To spot the signs before they fly.
    Structural checks, and laws in place,
    To safeguard lives in urban grace.
    So heed the lesson, this cautionary tale,
    As skyscrapers rise, and winds assail.
    For in the heart of each towering sight,
    Lies the weird flaw, lurking in the light.

    • @jmeluwho6685
      @jmeluwho6685 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      beautifully written, and terrifying...
      a stop sign made of lace

  • @bencythomas5018
    @bencythomas5018 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @3:04 ...what to expect when the glass is single glazed looks like its only 6mm thick or less...... also without tempering and to top that its 1side is more than 1 meter long... not only temperature, pressure but even structural deviations would affect that glass...in my opinion all those windows above a certain height and glass units that cant expand or contract within the units would have started cracking right from the day of installation.... unless u have a super computer making models given all types of weather data to make this setup a success....

  • @MartinPittBradley
    @MartinPittBradley 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    1) Incorporate building as its own entity
    2) Use cheap materials
    3) Be long gone before you kill someone

  • @paulagebhardt6018
    @paulagebhardt6018 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The note about the scaffolding in NYC nakes so much sense now!

  • @davideastham
    @davideastham 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    @5:00 Same type of effect as an F1 car pulling out a manhole cover in Vegas. Physics can be dangerous.

  • @chrisclouds4182
    @chrisclouds4182 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mini physics lesson with Stewart!

  • @MicheleB4506
    @MicheleB4506 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In New York City I always feared those Gargoyles high on top of our buildings! People were killed by Gargoyles, stones etc. Don’t cities inspect these things regularly??? 😅 Heads-up! In-coming Gargoyle! 👹

    • @ErwinFox
      @ErwinFox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Gargoyles are even more dangerous at night! Especially when they fly around the city.

  • @blockstacker5614
    @blockstacker5614 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Exelon tower in Baltimore had maybe 5 or so panes fall out at around the same time when it was quite new, they erected scaffolding around the first floor to protect people entering and leaving the tower.

  • @creativemindplay
    @creativemindplay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    0:18 the building's original owner * 😊 namaste

    • @creativemindplay
      @creativemindplay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or the original building owner 😊

  • @SystemsAllGo
    @SystemsAllGo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Once again Stewart, well done!!

  • @tonycosta3302
    @tonycosta3302 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    Architects should be held liable for flawed building features. Maybe that way they will be more focus on sound building practices than winning self-serving awards. There is no excuse for windows falling out.

    • @noone1929
      @noone1929 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      If I remember my history right, the Babylonian Codes of Hammurabi, one of the oldest written laws had death as punishment for builders whose structures caused death. And if their construction failed without any death they had to rebuild it with their own money.

    • @mtmadigan82
      @mtmadigan82 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      For an accident 50 years later at the cna building?

    • @Aze_osu
      @Aze_osu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That's a fast track to a world with no architects

    • @DarkRoot13
      @DarkRoot13 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Architects have little to no say in the final construction practices taken. The general contractor or engineer who signed off on the plan would ultimately be 1) considered fully or majorly to blame and 2) held fully or majorly responsible.

    • @LaSombraa
      @LaSombraa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Why would an architect be responsible for a construction companies mistake? Are you dense? Lol.

  • @DovidM
    @DovidM 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The windows at 200 Clarendon St (formerly the John Hancock building) fell out when it was windy. Thermal stresses were part of the problem.

  • @brodriguez11000
    @brodriguez11000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Should be running Linux on our skyscrapers. 😀

  • @Transit_Biker
    @Transit_Biker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it’s very interesting that this problem is so persistent when in a lot of cases you have recladding of buildings all the time which not only make them more energy efficient, but can also make the window systems a lot safer and more secure, especially when we are talking about strong storms from climate change, and the like.

  • @alexanderboulton2123
    @alexanderboulton2123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We are living in the Tower of Babel.

    • @That-Guy_
      @That-Guy_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love how that story shows how terrible god is.

    • @LisaAnn777
      @LisaAnn777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love mythology

    • @MachineWashableKatie
      @MachineWashableKatie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What, are people gonna start speaking french 2?

  • @elluisito000
    @elluisito000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I learned about the Eon tower history while working on a foot truck nearby. I miss Chicago 😢