Wow, I comment every every every FPV video , Im blown away with all the likes on a off the cuff comment , I was kinda bummed but this meant a lot thank you !!!!!!
I thought the dome was originally built in hopes of landing one of two expansion teams the NFL was going to announce in 1993. The city's proposal involved calling the new team the Stallions. When the NFL chose Carolina and Jacksonville instead, then their focus shifted to getting a relocating team like New England. After the Patriots attempt at relocation for 1994 fell through because of Rob Kraft (a whole other story there), they eventually landed the Rams in 1995.
I’m really disappointed that National Car Rental Stadium was never built because it looks a lot like Soldier Field and could’ve further stoked the Chicago-St. Louis rivalry.
Eh, Bears and Rams never really had a rivalry when the Rams were in STL. One team was either better than the other or they were both mediocre. Cubs-Cards and Blackhawks-Blues are bigger draws, anyway.
I’m sure if the nba had a team in St. Louis they wouldn’t be much of a rivalry with the bulls because the St. Louis team would likely play in the west conference
I will agree about St. Louis and chicago not being football rivalry cities. Although I imagine they may have been after the chicago cardinals moved to St. Louis prior to their move to Arizona? This was before my time. But one things for sure - the city of St. Louis got screwed with the rams moving to LA. And I say this as a Chicagoan.
The Rams will be there forever. The Chargers will be gone from LA in 10 years. Maybe 5. Back to San Diego, Portland, Salt Lake, hell maybe Canada (there used to be at least one CFL team in the U.S.)
All these failed stadium ideas remind me of how Houston has failed to renovate the Astrodome for so long. They can't even demolish it because it's a historic landmark.
They changed the West Side Stadium to Citi Field as the athletics stadium for the 2012 Olympics bid and that really put the nail in the coffin for the bid. And for competition with MSG, I don't blame them
7:00 actually these plans appear to be a similar design to Detroit's shared roof concept. If you look at the tracks of the roof they are the same on each side, making both stadiums indoor/outdoor stadiums in the 70s. Come to think of it, this would have been a better idea than ruining classically built soldier field with the flying saucer.
Honestly, that Chicago Sports Complex would’ve been awesome. Everyone here still wishes that the renovated Soldier Field included more seats and a retractable roof for hosting Super Bowls and even the NCAA tournament.
While I'm all for the Chicago sports complex for DA BEARS, we should honestly consider it a blessing in disguise that the Bears don't have enough seats to host the Super bowl. Every year 1 team or two in the case of the Giants / Jets is automatically doomed from winning the Super bowl because of the home stadium curse so I think it's for the better that we don't host Super bowls.
@@illiniguy34 absolutely in fact, it happened to the Viagra Queens in 2017. After the Minneapolis miracle they were promptly massacred by the eagles in the NFC championship game before they could even touch the Super bowl. Not to mention that's one of the luckiest runs when a team is hosting the Super bowl usually a good team will start out strong and then they'll collapse towards the end of the season because they're hosting the Super bowl but the Viagra Queens somehow got to the NFC title game
@@illiniguy34 for a good example, the 1987 chargers started off 8-2 but since their stadium was hosting the Super bowl they immediately fell apart and missed the playoffs at 9 and 7
Who's worse in postseason misery? Cincinnati, Detroit, Buffalo, or Houston? I'd say Cincinnati's 2 AFC championships disqualified them but they were so long ago, and the Marvin Lewis era was the Marvin Lewis era.
Fuck the Texans I’m from Houston and the bullshit they’ve been doing for years is catching up to them now Watson wants out because of these dumb decisions they make and if he leaves I leave too. They run the Texans as it was a fucking boys church camp fuck cal and easterby
Sharing one roof for two different stadiums actually wouldn't have been that big an issue, I don't think. Nowadays teams that share parking facilities (e.g., Baltimore) will avoid scheduling home games at the same time because there'd be too much traffic -- the shared roof would probably follow a similar agreement. Might be a bit tricky to juggle, but it certainly seems doable.
Fun Fact: Boltman actually went to one of the city planning meetings for the Chargers stadium. A man dressed up like a lightning bolt actually addressed the city council.
I read about the Delta Dome in Wikipedia, that it was to have been built on the site of Vanport, the city that was flooded out of existence. I learned something new here, that its seating could be changed between baseball, football...and track and field (Olympics?). 46,000 seats would be too few for the NFL, and Portland eventually got an NBA team anyway.
"I'm not entirely sure if this was a real thing, but there are drawings of it and drawings make things real right?" Damn, I shouldn't have thrown away those stadium drawings I made when I was bored. Also just imagine the last stadium being used for baseball.
Kroenke is in so much debt with that stadium he might have to sell Arsenal and that would be a great thing. Liked the Planes,Trains, and Automobiles bit.......How about those Bears. Lol
The ironic thing is that had Portland voted FOR the Delta Dome, they'd have secured an NFL team and surely an MLB team. Instead, Seattle got both those things. And the NBA of course did ultimately come to Portland. Now I wish the NHL would've expanded to Portland instead of Seattle. But the big reason why they never did was Paul Allen - who never was a real fan of hockey.
As someone who went to a school with West in its name from 1997-2000, I appreciate your use of "West Siiiiiiide" as that was heard often at my school functions.
When I grew up we had teams in St. Louis, San Diego, and Oakland. Now we have 2!!! teams in LA and a team in Las Vegas. Times are weird. I never understood why the NFL would have one, let alone two teams in LA. Small markets with solid fan bases like Pittsburgh, Green Bay, etc that sell out stadiums every season seem much more appealing to me for the NFL brand. A huge empty stadium for LA Chargers home games 8 times a year won’t look good.
In my youth there were teams in St. Louis, LA, Oakland, and SD as well. However, the St. Louis team was the Cardinals and the LA team were the Rams and then the Raiders.
The rolling roof model is actually the original plan for the Truman sports complex in Kansas City. It even looks a LOT like Arrowhead and Kauffman Stadiums. The roof was scrapped because of labor strikes and other cost overruns, but the complex itself has been open since Arrowhead opened in 1972.
When the USFL was a thing, the Oklahoma Outlaws were wanting a new stadium in Tulsa. They talked about a domed stadium for about a week then moved to Arizona.
It’s a shame some of these ideas didn’t become a thing. I’m really intrigued by civil engineering and big scale projects like these and it would be awesome to see more things like Mercedes-Benz stadium in Atlanta be built. But bigger and crazier
I live in Detroit and never was aware of that side by side stadium concept. I do recall the tigers were asked to move there but not this crazy stadium. Good history lesson fivepoint vids.
You forgot the Balto-dome which would have been built on the same site as Oriole Park, the warehouse would been demolished and a multipurpose dome stadium for the Orioles and Colts would been constructed. It was going to be built in the mid 70s. Hyman Pressman, passed an ordinance that Memorial stadium shall be left for soldiers.
The NYC2012 bid West Side Stadium was 'conceived' by Bloomberg and Dan Doctoroff , Pataki was involved because the MTA is a NYS agency. You can't just go by the Wikipedia page 'info'. The opposition by 'neighborhood activists' was negligible, it was business interests like Dolan as well as NYS politicians Sheldon Silver and Joe Bruno that killed the NYS $$$'s because the site was owned by the MTA and the spending bill had to be approved in Albany.. Silver was NYS Assembly speaker and Bruno was NYS Senate majority leader, their opposition was based on (1) so much money being spent in one part of NYC and Bloomberg assuming that the legislature would rubber-stamp his plan (2) that they were left out of the process by NYC2012 and were not going to be bullied into passing the funding bill by Bloomberg. Dolan's opposition in part came from NYC balking on extending the tax exemptions that MSG had at the time, pressure to end those tax breaks came from the 'preservationists' who wanted the MSG location for a 'new" Penn Station boondoggle. Those tax breaks were later extended on a temporary basis. The Olympic bid committee had just less than one month BEFORE the IOC voting to come up with another (weak) scheme, the bad plan guaranteed that NYC would lose out as it did. The West Side boongoggle was the main part of the bid and it was dead before the IOC vote. It had almost no on-site parking and if you look at the rendering @ 9:18, the west end of the Olympic stadium extended temporarily OVER the West Side Highway which would create traffic and security nightmares for many months. The stadium would have been built in 2 sections, the west end would have 'rolled' out over the highway during the Olympics and moved back to meet the rest of the building for football which has a smaller field layout. See the difference in the renderings @ 8:43 and @ 9:18. The NYC2012 bid was a badly planned one and doomed to failure from the start. I was involved with the public information department of the bid committee. "King Bloomie" is used to bullying getting his way then and now, not a good mentality for a Commander-in-Chief...
I was totally supportive and up for the Jets playing on Manhattan’s west side because lots of opportunities would’ve been in the cards for many people everywhere not to mention it would’ve spiced up the rivalry with the Giants. I’m just lost for words on why it never happened.
Buffalo needed a new stadium to meet NFL standards for the upcoming AFL/NFL merger, and Erie County had their hearts set on their own version of the Houston Astrodome, which could also host baseball games. Ralph Wilson said that was a terrible idea and if they built the small dome instead of a 70,000 seat open air stadium, he would move the team. Possibly to Seattle, or Memphis. The developer sued the county over potential lost revenue, which took 20 years to settle, some politicians went to jail for bribery, and every cookie-cutter multipurpose stadium built in that era has been demolished while Ralph Wilson Stadium is still in use 50 years later. Who knows what could have happened if the county went ahead and built their dome. Would the Bills have moved, and if so would they have gotten another team? Would Buffalo have gotten an MLB team? Would the NBA’s Buffalo Braves have used the dome when The Aud wasn’t available, and then stayed in Buffalo instead of becoming the San Diego Clippers? Would more northern cities have followed suit and built domes instead of open air stadiums? War Memorial Stadium, the one that too small and too decrepit for the NFL, was used for all the baseball scenes in 1984 movie The Natural.
Wasn't there a more recent proposal.. maybe around 2012, to build a stadium in downtown Buffalo and a dome stadium on the waterfront? I feel like I saw pictures of that.
TheXev Yes, but that was a plan by an independent developer, and not the Bills or the city of Buffalo. It was your typical multi-billion dollar entertainment complex that is all the rage with new stadiums. With the Bills not being interested there was no way they could finance it. The NFL and the other owners wanted Buffalo to build a new stadium, lest other cities see Buffalo making do and decide they didn’t need to build a new stadium either. Ralph Wilson said their current stadium was plenty good enough, it just needed some upgrades, which they did in time for the 2014 season. Unfortunately Mr. Wilson passed away in 2014, and the new owner says they will get a new stadium before too long.
You forgot to mention a proposed football-only stadium in San Francisco at Candlestick Point. I heard in the mid-90's that 49ers owner Eddie DeBartolo had an idea for not only a stadium, but also retail facilities next to it. The ballot-measure to build it passed, but I guess the battle for ownership between DeBartolo and his sister for ownership of the team kept it from being built.
Wow! I didn’t expect a Delta Dome shoutout. Thanks FPV. It wouldn’t be until around a decade later that the Blazers would show up in the Memorial Coliseum. Worth nothing that there was already a multipurpose stadium in downtown Portland called “Civic Stadium” but no one seemed to have interest in redeveloping/too small of an area to repurpose into a larger venue. It’s now where the Timbers play and it was...repurposed into a soccer friendly facility 😂
I used to go to supercross events for years at the silverdome and I will say the location of that stadium was so much better than downtown venues. Plenty of parking, easy access, not so much traffic, and hotels surrounded it
I been to both of the raiders stadiums,,and will be at the new one later this year,,and let me tell you,,no one was listening,and watching,,the raiders wanted a new stadium for decades,,,while other cities were building and refurbishing stadiums,,so ,,the folks in Oakland,,and san diego,,should have just sucked it up and raised the taxes on hotels,etc,,,like las vegas did,,, and the saints did the same,well Louisiana did to save the saints,, it is what it is
Las Vegas should’ve never got the Raiders but instead a XFL Team hopefully the city of Oakland can build a new stadium to get the Raiders back in the Bay where they belong because the 49ers in my opinion are overrated at this point love the Warrior, Sharks, Giants, Raiders and Quakes but screw the Niners.
I am still really disappointed that the West Side Stadium never got built in New York that was going to be such a cool venue. I'm hoping a variation of that stadium still gets developed in the future as the Jets need their own stadium getting tired of seeing them share the same venue with the Giants.
One that wasn't mentioned was the proposed stadium in Inglewood, Ca. that was going to be built between Hollywood Park Racetrack and the Forum. It was to have been the new home for the Raiders as well as UCLA, who were renegotiating their lease at the Rose Bowl. Unfortunately, the Raiders left town due to Al Davis needing money in a hurry or the IRS was going to give him a colonoscopy. However, the stadium was only part of the plan. The next step was that there were plans to tear down the Forum and build a new arena next door. However, this opened the door for AEG to build Staples Center in Downtown LA and start the area's revitalization.
You forgot the proposed stadium in Los Angeles. The Raiders were to move into a stadium in irwindale . Al Davis walk away with million dollars to play in a stadium that never got off the drawing board.
Another issue with the Detroit concept; two fixed roofs seem likely cheaper than that mobile one. The size alone seems like it probably needs more materials, the movement and size likely also make mantence costs worse, and adds in operations costs to get it into the position for games.
Forget the '80s?! Dude, what's wrong with you? I literally had a kid ask me if I grew up in the '80s. I did, of course, and she legit in awe said, "That must have been amazing!" Yes, it was, I replied.
Forgot at least one where both the stadium and the team still exist: Nippert Stadium, home of the Cincinnati Bengals in 1968 & 1969, while Riverfront Stadium was being built. Yes, the Bengals were AFL during those last two pre-merger years.
It's funny how Kronke kept saying he was committed to St Louis, they offered to build him a stadium, then he built a stadium with private financing in LA. He had one foot out the door before he even bought the team in 2010.
Boston also wanted to build a new stadium for the pats and redsoxs right next to each other on the water. But soxs said no because of the history and pats moved to Foxboro after.
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The moon stadium would be good for the Astros. They could use telescopes and satellites to spy on the Earthling MLB teams
You know Belichick would be using it to spy also, wait maybe not, he just gets ponzies to do itso they get in shit not him.
How in the world does somebody with this level of humour end up with the HSV logo...oh wait...i get it ^^
“Gasp” 😧 HOW DARE YOU 😡. But tbh I would be cool cuz Houston is the space city
B.P Blaze that’s why you have the Astros and Rockets in the first place because of NASA
Yonathan Gonzalez I know
The Raiders should build a stadium on a aircraft carrier, so they can move every weekend to a different city.
They would if they could.
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Wow, I comment every every every FPV video , Im blown away with all the likes on a off the cuff comment , I was kinda bummed but this meant a lot thank you !!!!!!
The Edward Jones Dome was actually built for the Patriots to relocate. This is why the seats were Red and Blue
Goddamn I hate that stadium. The nosebleeds were a pain. I needed a Sherpa to get to that level.
Wasn't it supposed to be for the defunct St Louis Stallions?
I thought the dome was originally built in hopes of landing one of two expansion teams the NFL was going to announce in 1993. The city's proposal involved calling the new team the Stallions. When the NFL chose Carolina and Jacksonville instead, then their focus shifted to getting a relocating team like New England.
After the Patriots attempt at relocation for 1994 fell through because of Rob Kraft (a whole other story there), they eventually landed the Rams in 1995.
@@gojenson I saw one game there about 20 years ago. It was not the best experience. IIRC we had to park somewhere out by SLU as well.
@@eggsngritstn There was plenty of parking nearby, particularly surface lots where some great tailgating happened.
I’m really disappointed that National Car Rental Stadium was never built because it looks a lot like Soldier Field and could’ve further stoked the Chicago-St. Louis rivalry.
Eh, Bears and Rams never really had a rivalry when the Rams were in STL. One team was either better than the other or they were both mediocre. Cubs-Cards and Blackhawks-Blues are bigger draws, anyway.
I’m sure if the nba had a team in St. Louis they wouldn’t be much of a rivalry with the bulls because the St. Louis team would likely play in the west conference
I will agree about St. Louis and chicago not being football rivalry cities. Although I imagine they may have been after the chicago cardinals moved to St. Louis prior to their move to Arizona? This was before my time. But one things for sure - the city of St. Louis got screwed with the rams moving to LA. And I say this as a Chicagoan.
@@antigov3944 ye but stl Cardinals were pretty terrible too, would have been a lopsided rivalry
@@tevinsherrill4195 nobody cares about the hockey and baseball
THE GIANTS HIRED JASON GARRETT AS A OC LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
I can't help but admire the level of Derp the Giants partake in!
KDavisJr86 agreed
We shall go find a place in the arctic to die
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Ryan Carroll would you like a clap
Where's your other hand?
Between two pillows.
Those aren't pillows!!!!!!
"Planes, Trains, and Automobiles" is still one of my all time favorites.
Do every NFL team's biggest blowout win
Didn't people complain about playing away games in London or Mexico? Imagine playing road games on the Moon. 😂🤔🌚
Just imagine in 10 years Stan Kroenke trying to move the Rams to the Moon.
The only moon that Stan will ever see is his ass.....lol
It sounds ludicrous until I heard about two stadiums under one roof, or the Chargers playing in O-side lmfao
He will stay in Los Angeles for ever
Seamus McKeon In glad they left Missouri because they suck
The Rams will be there forever.
The Chargers will be gone from LA in 10 years. Maybe 5. Back to San Diego, Portland, Salt Lake, hell maybe Canada (there used to be at least one CFL team in the U.S.)
All these failed stadium ideas remind me of how Houston has failed to renovate the Astrodome for so long. They can't even demolish it because it's a historic landmark.
What if they could make a park out of it
@D C that would be a good fit
I thought they were supposed to turn it into the Houston Sports Hall of Fame.
@@KenCostlow that's a good idea
@@pp3k3jamail I wish I could take credit for it.
They changed the West Side Stadium to Citi Field as the athletics stadium for the 2012 Olympics bid and that really put the nail in the coffin for the bid. And for competition with MSG, I don't blame them
Holy s**t you are EVERYWHERE on TH-cam 😂
I do. Dolan needs to be out of business
You could critique the CFL's stadiums next.
The stadium saga continues
7:00 actually these plans appear to be a similar design to Detroit's shared roof concept. If you look at the tracks of the roof they are the same on each side, making both stadiums indoor/outdoor stadiums in the 70s.
Come to think of it, this would have been a better idea than ruining classically built soldier field with the flying saucer.
If this was for the MLB the A’s would be on here 20 times
@Pio Romo21 well moving to Las Vegas is worse
As an A's Fan I'm laughing and crying at the same time sighhhh... #TheStruggleIsRealReal
What kind of drugs did the guy take that decided they wanted to build a stadium on the moon
bad ones?
CAD designers
All of them
Whatever the hell Elon Musk gave him
Honestly, that Chicago Sports Complex would’ve been awesome. Everyone here still wishes that the renovated Soldier Field included more seats and a retractable roof for hosting Super Bowls and even the NCAA tournament.
While I'm all for the Chicago sports complex for DA BEARS, we should honestly consider it a blessing in disguise that the Bears don't have enough seats to host the Super bowl. Every year 1 team or two in the case of the Giants / Jets is automatically doomed from winning the Super bowl because of the home stadium curse so I think it's for the better that we don't host Super bowls.
ECHICAGOBEARSDBZ Yeah that’s not a bad point, we’d just end up like the Vikings or Lions and no one wants that.
@@illiniguy34 absolutely in fact, it happened to the Viagra Queens in 2017. After the Minneapolis miracle they were promptly massacred by the eagles in the NFC championship game before they could even touch the Super bowl. Not to mention that's one of the luckiest runs when a team is hosting the Super bowl usually a good team will start out strong and then they'll collapse towards the end of the season because they're hosting the Super bowl but the Viagra Queens somehow got to the NFC title game
ECHICAGOBEARSDBZ Yeah, sounds about right.
@@illiniguy34 for a good example, the 1987 chargers started off 8-2 but since their stadium was hosting the Super bowl they immediately fell apart and missed the playoffs at 9 and 7
The irony of naming a stadium in the super-urban Los Angeles metro area "FARMER'S Field"
It was Farmers Insurance, which is based there.
Kansas City also once had a plan to have a roof sliding back and forth between Arrowhead and Kaufman.
0:10 C’mon man, I’m still recovering...
Man that Texans joke hit hard :(
Who's worse in postseason misery? Cincinnati, Detroit, Buffalo, or Houston?
I'd say Cincinnati's 2 AFC championships disqualified them but they were so long ago, and the Marvin Lewis era was the Marvin Lewis era.
GM/HC BoB sir!!
What about now
How you like me now
Fuck the Texans I’m from Houston and the bullshit they’ve been doing for years is catching up to them now Watson wants out because of these dumb decisions they make and if he leaves I leave too. They run the Texans as it was a fucking boys church camp fuck cal and easterby
Im waiting for the SpaceX Dome, Mars. I mean at least their Falcons do not blow it in the second half of the mission.
Sharing one roof for two different stadiums actually wouldn't have been that big an issue, I don't think. Nowadays teams that share parking facilities (e.g., Baltimore) will avoid scheduling home games at the same time because there'd be too much traffic -- the shared roof would probably follow a similar agreement. Might be a bit tricky to juggle, but it certainly seems doable.
The Kansas City sports complex that opened in 1972 had an idea to roll over a roof over the baseball and football stadiums, but it never happened.
That proposed New York Jets stadium was gorgeous, I can't believe if not the Jets than some other team never used the design.
It is woody Johnson fault
Fun Fact: Boltman actually went to one of the city planning meetings for the Chargers stadium. A man dressed up like a lightning bolt actually addressed the city council.
The Delta Dome was for sure a alien ship.
I read about the Delta Dome in Wikipedia, that it was to have been built on the site of Vanport, the city that was flooded out of existence. I learned something new here, that its seating could be changed between baseball, football...and track and field (Olympics?). 46,000 seats would be too few for the NFL, and Portland eventually got an NBA team anyway.
Chargers should relocate to Area 51
Jesse Storck lol genius
"I'm not entirely sure if this was a real thing, but there are drawings of it and drawings make things real right?"
Damn, I shouldn't have thrown away those stadium drawings I made when I was bored. Also just imagine the last stadium being used for baseball.
Kroenke is in so much debt with that stadium he might have to sell Arsenal and that would be a great thing.
Liked the Planes,Trains, and Automobiles bit.......How about those Bears. Lol
Hahaha as a Texans fan the intro about Texans fan hopes and dreams in January is the most true thing ever spoken
Let's build a stadium... on the MOON!!!
Chargers haven't played a actual home game since 2016.
send dean spanos to the moon he can play with himself and the chargers go home to san diego
The ironic thing is that had Portland voted FOR the Delta Dome, they'd have secured an NFL team and surely an MLB team. Instead, Seattle got both those things. And the NBA of course did ultimately come to Portland.
Now I wish the NHL would've expanded to Portland instead of Seattle. But the big reason why they never did was Paul Allen - who never was a real fan of hockey.
I was so excited seeing the rendering for National car rental field. Hopefully STL gets a chance to build it in the future.
Now there’s mls stadium that is building so you watch soccer soon in St. Louis.
@@panterafanloco1600 there is actually a problem with that stadium so it may not get built.
@@panterafanloco1600 mls is a joke
You have to be 238,900 miles high to want to build a stadium on the freaking moon
As someone who went to a school with West in its name from 1997-2000, I appreciate your use of "West Siiiiiiide" as that was heard often at my school functions.
When I grew up we had teams in St. Louis, San Diego, and Oakland. Now we have 2!!! teams in LA and a team in Las Vegas. Times are weird. I never understood why the NFL would have one, let alone two teams in LA. Small markets with solid fan bases like Pittsburgh, Green Bay, etc that sell out stadiums every season seem much more appealing to me for the NFL brand. A huge empty stadium for LA Chargers home games 8 times a year won’t look good.
Packers are an outlier because of their history. Pittsburgh is a dynasty.
IMO no city should have two teams in the same sport. Give those franchises to different markets
In my youth there were teams in St. Louis, LA, Oakland, and SD as well. However, the St. Louis team was the Cardinals and the LA team were the Rams and then the Raiders.
The rolling roof model is actually the original plan for the Truman sports complex in Kansas City. It even looks a LOT like Arrowhead and Kauffman Stadiums. The roof was scrapped because of labor strikes and other cost overruns, but the complex itself has been open since Arrowhead opened in 1972.
When the USFL was a thing, the Oklahoma Outlaws were wanting a new stadium in Tulsa. They talked about a domed stadium for about a week then moved to Arizona.
My stadium fetish is fulfilled for the day.
Thanks 5P.
The last team of architects probably thought they were in Futurama or something, GOOD LORD!
A sphincter boy say what? ........... Dean Spanos "What"
A truer description of Deano there never was. Of course he did all of this AFTER his father had dementia.
It’s a shame some of these ideas didn’t become a thing. I’m really intrigued by civil engineering and big scale projects like these and it would be awesome to see more things like Mercedes-Benz stadium in Atlanta be built. But bigger and crazier
“....the north loop part of south Chicago...”
That’s a thing that doesn’t actually exist.
Also, the Sox had new Comisky nearly finished by 1990.
The spot is River West, too!
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Imagine wearing a shower cap even though you bald
"And one was literally not on this planet....yeeahh" 😂😂😂😂
I live in Detroit and never was aware of that side by side stadium concept. I do recall the tigers were asked to move there but not this crazy stadium. Good history lesson fivepoint vids.
That Texans diss got to me 😭😭😂😂 love watching you’re videos
Next u should go over every XFL teams stadium. As in this year.
Jeremy Borman it’s mostly gonna be nfl or mls stadiums
Xfl teams dont have tgeir own stadiums.
Ademir Segura yeah i know, but it would be a cool video
The old XFL stadiums ought to be a bonus
Jeremy Borman not really, the vipers play at Raymond James, and some play in old nfl stadiums or mls stadiums
It's that time of year when 5PV must relieve his stadium fettish
You forgot the Balto-dome which would have been built on the same site as Oriole Park, the warehouse would been demolished and a multipurpose dome stadium for the Orioles and Colts would been constructed. It was going to be built in the mid 70s. Hyman Pressman, passed an ordinance that Memorial stadium shall be left for soldiers.
The NYC2012 bid West Side Stadium was 'conceived' by Bloomberg and Dan Doctoroff , Pataki was involved because the MTA is a NYS agency.
You can't just go by the Wikipedia page 'info'.
The opposition by 'neighborhood activists' was negligible, it was business interests like Dolan as well as NYS politicians Sheldon Silver and
Joe Bruno that killed the NYS $$$'s because the site was owned by the MTA and the spending bill had to be approved in Albany..
Silver was NYS Assembly speaker and Bruno was NYS Senate majority leader, their opposition was based on (1) so much money being
spent in one part of NYC and Bloomberg assuming that the legislature would rubber-stamp his plan (2) that they were left out of the process
by NYC2012 and were not going to be bullied into passing the funding bill by Bloomberg. Dolan's opposition in part came from NYC balking on
extending the tax exemptions that MSG had at the time, pressure to end those tax breaks came from the 'preservationists' who wanted the MSG
location for a 'new" Penn Station boondoggle. Those tax breaks were later extended on a temporary basis.
The Olympic bid committee had just less than one month BEFORE the IOC voting to come up with another (weak) scheme, the bad plan
guaranteed that NYC would lose out as it did. The West Side boongoggle was the main part of the bid and it was dead before the IOC vote.
It had almost no on-site parking and if you look at the rendering @ 9:18, the west end of the Olympic stadium extended temporarily OVER the
West Side Highway which would create traffic and security nightmares for many months.
The stadium would have been built in 2 sections, the west end would have 'rolled' out over the highway during the Olympics and moved back to meet
the rest of the building for football which has a smaller field layout. See the difference in the renderings @ 8:43 and @ 9:18.
The NYC2012 bid was a badly planned one and doomed to failure from the start.
I was involved with the public information department of the bid committee.
"King Bloomie" is used to bullying getting his way then and now, not a good mentality for a Commander-in-Chief...
I was totally supportive and up for the Jets playing on Manhattan’s west side because lots of opportunities would’ve been in the cards for many people everywhere not to mention it would’ve spiced up the rivalry with the Giants. I’m just lost for words on why it never happened.
Buffalo needed a new stadium to meet NFL standards for the upcoming AFL/NFL merger, and Erie County had their hearts set on their own version of the Houston Astrodome, which could also host baseball games. Ralph Wilson said that was a terrible idea and if they built the small dome instead of a 70,000 seat open air stadium, he would move the team. Possibly to Seattle, or Memphis. The developer sued the county over potential lost revenue, which took 20 years to settle, some politicians went to jail for bribery, and every cookie-cutter multipurpose stadium built in that era has been demolished while Ralph Wilson Stadium is still in use 50 years later.
Who knows what could have happened if the county went ahead and built their dome. Would the Bills have moved, and if so would they have gotten another team? Would Buffalo have gotten an MLB team? Would the NBA’s Buffalo Braves have used the dome when The Aud wasn’t available, and then stayed in Buffalo instead of becoming the San Diego Clippers? Would more northern cities have followed suit and built domes instead of open air stadiums?
War Memorial Stadium, the one that too small and too decrepit for the NFL, was used for all the baseball scenes in 1984 movie The Natural.
Wasn't there a more recent proposal.. maybe around 2012, to build a stadium in downtown Buffalo and a dome stadium on the waterfront? I feel like I saw pictures of that.
TheXev Yes, but that was a plan by an independent developer, and not the Bills or the city of Buffalo. It was your typical multi-billion dollar entertainment complex that is all the rage with new stadiums. With the Bills not being interested there was no way they could finance it.
The NFL and the other owners wanted Buffalo to build a new stadium, lest other cities see Buffalo making do and decide they didn’t need to build a new stadium either. Ralph Wilson said their current stadium was plenty good enough, it just needed some upgrades, which they did in time for the 2014 season. Unfortunately Mr. Wilson passed away in 2014, and the new owner says they will get a new stadium before too long.
Honestly id like to see some of these stadium concepts return they don’t seem that bad..
forget the 80's? One of the best decades in human history.
You forgot to mention a proposed football-only stadium in San Francisco at Candlestick Point. I heard in the mid-90's that 49ers owner Eddie DeBartolo had an idea for not only a stadium, but also retail facilities next to it. The ballot-measure to build it passed, but I guess the battle for ownership between DeBartolo and his sister for ownership of the team kept it from being built.
Wow! I didn’t expect a Delta Dome shoutout. Thanks FPV. It wouldn’t be until around a decade later that the Blazers would show up in the Memorial Coliseum. Worth nothing that there was already a multipurpose stadium in downtown Portland called “Civic Stadium” but no one seemed to have interest in redeveloping/too small of an area to repurpose into a larger venue. It’s now where the Timbers play and it was...repurposed into a soccer friendly facility 😂
The West Side Project looked so cool
Look forward to these videos. 👍 great information. I’ve learned more from your videos than ESPN. 😃
I used to go to supercross events for years at the silverdome and I will say the location of that stadium was so much better than downtown venues. Plenty of parking, easy access, not so much traffic, and hotels surrounded it
Oakland Raiders R.I.P.
1960-1981.
1995-2019.
I been to both of the raiders stadiums,,and will be at the new one later this year,,and let me tell you,,no one was listening,and watching,,the raiders wanted a new stadium for decades,,,while other cities were building and refurbishing stadiums,,so ,,the folks in Oakland,,and san diego,,should have just sucked it up and raised the taxes on hotels,etc,,,like las vegas did,,, and the saints did the same,well Louisiana did to save the saints,, it is what it is
Las Vegas should’ve never got the Raiders but instead a XFL Team hopefully the city of Oakland can build a new stadium to get the Raiders back in the Bay where they belong because the 49ers in my opinion are overrated at this point love the Warrior, Sharks, Giants, Raiders and Quakes but screw the Niners.
Miss Oakland and SD and many teams before them playing football on infield dirt. Not really but it was fun to watch.
I am still really disappointed that the West Side Stadium never got built in New York that was going to be such a cool venue. I'm hoping a variation of that stadium still gets developed in the future as the Jets need their own stadium getting tired of seeing them share the same venue with the Giants.
'Planet Park' in Gary Indiana for the Bears was a thing proposed in the 90's for a cup of coffee.
Can you do CFL stadiums critiquing video
I would love to see this!
PS: Can you one day do a video on the biggest arena fails like the Miami Arena (example) or Tropicana Field? Or Continental/IZOD in New Jersey?
"sphincter boy" well played
I’m from the Detroit area and I had no idea about the Pontiac moving roof deal!
Points one liners in this video are top tier.
five points stockfilms vid back at it again!!
7:52 can we just admire that beautiful shot
Chicago Sports Complex plan actually, also, would have seen its roof slide between stadiums. Both would have been retractable roofed
One that wasn't mentioned was the proposed stadium in Inglewood, Ca. that was going to be built between Hollywood Park Racetrack and the Forum. It was to have been the new home for the Raiders as well as UCLA, who were renegotiating their lease at the Rose Bowl. Unfortunately, the Raiders left town due to Al Davis needing money in a hurry or the IRS was going to give him a colonoscopy. However, the stadium was only part of the plan. The next step was that there were plans to tear down the Forum and build a new arena next door. However, this opened the door for AEG to build Staples Center in Downtown LA and start the area's revitalization.
I died of laughter at that ad spot... Oh the cringe... The horrible horrible hilarious cringe!
FPV, you are awesome, dude!
0:13 I'm a texans fan and I just got triggered
You're freaking hilarious!! Please make many more like this 🤣
Do a video about college basketball arenas
You forgot the proposed stadium in Los Angeles. The Raiders were to move into a stadium in irwindale . Al Davis walk away with million dollars to play in a stadium that never got off the drawing board.
Actually i left that off on purpose. That stadium design is the one that is being built in vegas. I plan on covering that in a future video :)
Bro I ain’t expected him to film him in the shower, he gettin a bag tho so respect💯
I found outlaw soaps because of dr. Squatch and I’m so happy I found them
😂😂😂 love your commentary! 💯💯
Anyone ready for XFL??
Hiding Egg hell yeah! Dc Defenders all the way baby!!!
@@calebspangler132 nah vipers
Heck yes I am!
When does it even start
When you realize the XFL begins in 3 weeks yet also at the same time is 99 days away from folding...
Another issue with the Detroit concept; two fixed roofs seem likely cheaper than that mobile one. The size alone seems like it probably needs more materials, the movement and size likely also make mantence costs worse, and adds in operations costs to get it into the position for games.
Ideas:
Never built MLB stadiums
Former NHL/NBA arenas
Can you imagine a football game on the moon though? Wideouts slowly bouncing downfield while passes sail 20 yards past them would be a sight!
The "Patriots" site in Hartford ended up being used for a science center. Quite the pivot!
The name "Farmers Field" made me LOL. What? were they going to plant corn in the end zone?
Forget the '80s?! Dude, what's wrong with you? I literally had a kid ask me if I grew up in the '80s. I did, of course, and she legit in awe said, "That must have been amazing!" Yes, it was, I replied.
I died when Bill Obrien came on the screen....Thanks for that laugh I had to stop the video when he said that I kept laughing because it's true. LOL
Kroenke moving to LA was a better move for the Rams and NFL. SoFi stadium is BEAUTIFUL 😍
9:27 Would have been perfect for The Silver Millennium-Moon Prism Power Make Up!
Forgot at least one where both the stadium and the team still exist: Nippert Stadium, home of the Cincinnati Bengals in 1968 & 1969, while Riverfront Stadium was being built. Yes, the Bengals were AFL during those last two pre-merger years.
As soon as I saw a stadium video I instantly clicked
It's funny how Kronke kept saying he was committed to St Louis, they offered to build him a stadium, then he built a stadium with private financing in LA. He had one foot out the door before he even bought the team in 2010.
Do this for the other leagues too. I know the Oakland A's would get featured a lot in an MLB video on the subject.
02:51 the team that should’ve never left LA in the first place
But I digress
This commentary is always hilarious 😂😂
Boston also wanted to build a new stadium for the pats and redsoxs right next to each other on the water. But soxs said no because of the history and pats moved to Foxboro after.
I could be wrong but I think the Patriots were already in Foxboro.
4:58 where can i find more of these hilarious people hurting themselves vids?