A very interesting differential equation

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  • Non-linear differential equations have interesting solution developments and some require us to be creative with our solution development. This equation is one of those cases.
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  • @edmundwoolliams1240
    @edmundwoolliams1240 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What I find so fascinating about non-linear DEs is that one tiny change to the equation usually completely changes the solution/solution method and/or makes a doable problem into a completely hopeless one. For example, just changing any one of those x or y terms to x^2 or y^2 would just suddenly make it impossible

  • @Monokumaaaaaaaaa
    @Monokumaaaaaaaaa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    We have a fraction of 2 linear functions, so we can solve the system:
    y + 2 = 0 => y = -2
    x + y + 1 = 0=> x = 1
    Then we can substitute x = x* + 1, y = y* -2; (x*)' = x', (y*)' = y'
    So we actually have:
    dy* = (y*)² • dx* / (y* + x*)²
    Here goes another substitution: y* = ux*, (y*)' = u'x* + u
    Now we can rewrite it as:
    du•x* + dx*•u = u² • dx* / (u+1)²
    Then simplify:
    du•x* = dx* • (u²/(u+1)² - u)
    And now we can just separate the variables and finish the job

    • @neg2sode
      @neg2sode 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It seems like an extraordinarily neat solution to the equation to me! May I ask the exact name for the first step where a system of the two linear function is solved? I am interested in the idea behind this solution.

    • @raghavkumar4914
      @raghavkumar4914 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@neg2sode idea behind the soln is that the rate of chnge does not chnge when we chnge the origin.. 6

    • @raghavkumar4914
      @raghavkumar4914 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@neg2sode idea behind the soln is that the rate of chnge does not chnge when we chnge the origin.. 6

  • @edmundwoolliams1240
    @edmundwoolliams1240 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Maybe you could rewrite the inverse tan as a complex logarithm, then combine the logs and solve for y?

    • @stevenkrantz6580
      @stevenkrantz6580 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      exactly what i thought of. arctan has an explicit complex logarithmic form derived by integrating 1/(x^2+1) with partial fraction decomp.

    • @thomasstokes9412
      @thomasstokes9412 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Here is an alternative form for the answer using the complex logarithm definition of arctanx.
      tanx = sinx/cosx = (e^{ix}-e^{-ix})/(i[e^{ix}+e^{-ix}])
      Re-arranging everything the following formulae for arctanx: arctanx = 1/(2i) ln([1+ix]/[1-ix]).
      Plugging this into the answer to the differential equation in the video. The answer 'simplifies' to:
      ln(y+2)+iln([1+i(y+2/1-x)]/[1-i(y+2/1-x)])=c
      Let e^c = a
      (y+2)[(1-x+i(y+2))/(1-x-i(y+2))]^i = a

  • @potterhead0720
    @potterhead0720 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When considering messy x and y thing as u, instead of taking the log on both sides, i would have preferred taking the denominator to the other side and multiply by u, then differentiate both sides wrt x, this i believe would have been less lengthy in comparison to the method you demonstrated

  • @TheArtOfBeingANerd
    @TheArtOfBeingANerd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    From a lowly calc 2 student, it seems like you can get the answer in a form x = f(y)? Or does that not matter as much as getting y in terms of x?

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oh it matters just as much it's just that math people are too stubborn to admit that 😂

  • @moeberry8226
    @moeberry8226 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 714 it’s (1+x)*dz/dx you have to factor out the negative 1 for substitution.

  • @jkid1134
    @jkid1134 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You did an algebra step you said to check and then a partial fraction decomp that you also said to check, but one just undoes the other and you could've skipped them both :P

  • @ericthegreat7805
    @ericthegreat7805 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't we express arctan as a log approximation?

  • @Grundini91
    @Grundini91 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:11 This is why you don't skip steps

  • @insouciantFox
    @insouciantFox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    (y+2)(y+2-i(x-1))^i(y+2+i(x-1))^i=K

  • @Mephisto707
    @Mephisto707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:17 Can you log both sides at will without verifying if they are always positive?

    • @alphazero339
      @alphazero339 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes if you assume complex logarithm

    • @Mephisto707
      @Mephisto707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alphazero339 but it's not the case here, right? I was expecting him to verify that applying log is possible, but he didn't.

    • @alphazero339
      @alphazero339 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mephisto707 I mean you can always log both sides no?

    • @Mephisto707
      @Mephisto707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alphazero339 only if the argument is positive.

    • @alphazero339
      @alphazero339 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mephisto707 I think you can take log of negative number too
      Suppose 𝐱∈ℝ⁺. Then if we want log of negative number -𝐱 we can compute like this:
      𝐥𝐧(-𝐱) = 𝐥𝐧(𝐱 × 𝐞𝐱𝐩(𝐢π)) = 𝐥𝐧(𝐱) + 𝐥𝐧(𝐞𝐱𝐩(𝐢π)) = 𝐥𝐧(𝐱) + 𝐢π
      So as long as argument is not 0 its okay and can be negative

  • @shivanshnigam4015
    @shivanshnigam4015 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey try this one
    Sum from n=0 to infinity of 1/(3n)!
    Ans is (e+e^w+e^w²)/3
    Where w is the complex cube root of unity

    • @DKAIN_404
      @DKAIN_404 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro did you watched jee simplified

    • @shivanshnigam4015
      @shivanshnigam4015 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DKAIN_404 hell yeah bro 👌

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quite easy , substitution u(x) = (y(x)+2)/(x+y(x)+1)
    will reduce this equation to separable differential equation

  • @bandishrupnath3721
    @bandishrupnath3721 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At this point ,its saddening that im not worthy enough to watch these awesome videos and fully enjoy and understand them:),one day ill be worthy.
    btw love ur vida

  • @giuseppemalaguti435
    @giuseppemalaguti435 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Come per gli integrali,il problema è sempre trovare il cambio variabile opportuno

  • @azmath2059
    @azmath2059 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How long did this take you to develop a solution?

  • @lakshay3745
    @lakshay3745 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think thats the best implicit form you can possibly get yeah

  • @nightmareintegral5593
    @nightmareintegral5593 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this is not complete equation?

  • @MrWael1970
    @MrWael1970 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your featured solution

  • @abdoshaat3304
    @abdoshaat3304 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where's isolated Y

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice!! And oh no i do not want to try anything to get something better than what you got..😂

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂

  • @RTX-tv6cq
    @RTX-tv6cq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really love your vids.

  • @MohamedachrafKadim-jm5yr
    @MohamedachrafKadim-jm5yr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

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