Super cancel is the BEST thing to get used to doing, it's changed the way I hold a controller for the better. And no you're not seeing things, sometimes the English commentary will comment on the pass/shot being good or bad before the ball has left the players foot 👍 Great content as always ✌️
Thanks, very nice of you to say, I absolutely agree! Ah, I didn't actually know about that. I disabled the commentary after they repeated that it's "The hurricane himself, Harry Kane" like 4 times in 5 minutes when Kane received the ball, had it off ever since😁
"Ball Path" is an actual thing in PES and EF. Due to the way the game was made, the ball's trajectory, ball's animation, and ball physics, all are pre-determined assets. That's why picking the right angle and body placement is crucial in PES and EF, because if you put the ball into the "best" path, it will travel like nobody's business, even thru 5-6 players. But if the ball's trajectory isn't in the game from the start (Ex: Try early crossing from RMF or LMF into the "area of uncertainties" like KDB does, but 90% it will not work in EF because it isn't there in first place. Unless the opponent super-cancels and runs away from the trajectory, otherwise you won't ever get that pass.) This is what people called "scripting" inside PES and EF. If you play the games for years and years (like me), you can predict exactly where the ball will go just from looking how it was kicked.
Nice video man well done indeed. I wish we had your controller on the screen, it would be very useful. Its a kindly request for next times. No matter what, great video 👏👏👏
Imagine a game where u need to glitch it to win:). Can’t believe I started playing and invested in this scripted mess. Only in efotball you can end a game 12-4 shots and loose 1-4 with 9 go saves for Opponent:))
It's not a glitch the super cancel is a valid mechanic cause it's in the guide of the game and the game in real life already have match with those stats in shots too
it was just good anticipation from vieira, how mbappes body was angled already tells him where the shot is going also addressing the ter stegen dive, he obviously stuttered right when the shot was blocked, u can see he was going to throw himself at the ball there, he obviously stopped when the shot was blocked but i think the all the momentum he had accumelated caused him to fall despite his effort to try and stop
Good point, that's definitely possible! It's pretty weird though, since Vieira actually runs backwards, he wouldn't even see when the shot was coming. Maybe just the animation being suboptiomal, it's just a game after all😀 The Ter Stegen thing is pretty interesting too, I thought if he really wanted to save the shot, he might have jumped too late already when he actually went through with his little move, but then again we could explain this by saying the shot would have just gone in. I wonder how a side-by-side would look like compared to when no player blocks it, because theoretically, if there's zero predetermination, Ter Stegen should have similar timing as here, but actually go through with any kind of saving animation, regardless whether the ball is saved or goes in.
Regarding the goalie diving. For many years (back into pes days) Konami have goalkeeper reactions to deflections completely wrong. Keepers should be reacting to the initial trajectory of the shot even if their reaction starts just after the deflection, but that’s not the case. Human reaction time is .25 seconds so the keeper should not be able to react to anything that has happened within .25 seconds. Instead efoutball keepers start the reactions after a reasonable delay (.25 seconds) after the initial shot but they react to everything that happens after that instantaneously which is completely wrong.
Thanks! I actually do have a video about developing players, it was before the 88 proficiency managers were introduced though. So for example, attributes getting +3 when being 85 or higher now isn't in there. Also, to avoid overcapping, assuming there are no additional boosters on the card, the value is 96 now. Other than that, there's still a lot of useful stuff though in case you're interested, especially about overall ratings: th-cam.com/video/XfmMuTrQYRU/w-d-xo.html
Have you noticed that super cancelling has been nerfed in the last couple patches? I can no longer stop player animations where they are frustrated to continue pressing, while I'm pretty sure you could do that before with super cancel.
I felt I noticed something but it was such a little deviation that I thought it was just the game being different from time to time, due to connection or whatever. It happened so few times that I couldn't really pinpoint down as to what, when and why it happened though. Could have just been my imagination, I'm not playing that much right now to really be certain.
@@PESPepe I've noticed it a ton tbh. Because usually I override the animations when you are like forced to stop chasing a ball because your player must put their hands up in frustration or whatever. And now it seems you are locked into that animation even with super cancel. It feels really bad for me unfortunately.
I think the marseille turn one I can explain because I used it a lot and I'm actually quite sad it's no longer as effective. Before, when you would use it, the defender couldn't change his momentum as quick and would still be moving into his running direction for a brief bit, which was just enough for marseille turn to pass him. Defenders seem to be able to shift directions faster since a few patches now, so they can turn and contest/take the ball most of the time.
I'm making a formation guide where all of this and more is explained, but to be fair, I tried many different playstyle and most worked fine. Most of the time I play with 3 no style CBs because these are the best players. A destroyer as a central CB worked well for me though. Build up also worked fine, and I've even played with an extra attacker (POTW Hernandez) for a long time who also did a great job. I think one has to be careful with switching to attack mode then because it could cause him to actually leave the defense and join the attack. Defensive midfielders are anchor man + destroyer, but I also tried various combinations including no style players and box-to-box players, and they also did their job, but I'd say anchor man + destroyer might have a slight edge. I gave no style and box to box players a defensive instruction in my defensive midfield. I think the best option for the CMF position is a box-to-box player, although I also tried a hole player which seems to be a bit more offensive. Outside AMFs are either no style, hole player or creative playmaker. My usual preference here is a no style player on one side and a hole player/creative playmaker on the other side. One of my forwards is a deep-lying forward, which I like in general, and the other one has no style. Sometimes I use a Goal Poacher too. I can't really say how well a Fox in the Box would work because I don't really have a good one to use. As for instructions, defensive on 1 DMF is a possibility, and I also like to use counter-target on Messi because he is irreplacable to me. If the opponent skips the midfield quick or plays a wide offensive formation, either give the defensively better DMF a deep line instruction or switch to a 4 man defence sub-tactic, possibly with a change to long ball counter, depending on how your opponent plays. There's quite a lot more, but I'll make sure the video covers it.
I've been thinking about this for a while, I'm always afraid that the controller would take up too much space, but you're probably right that it would be beneficial👍
Yo pepe, wanted to ask you about top 5 defenders/cbs creme de la creme in the game? without including (araujo), Do you think the new showtime van dijk is also in top 5? Who is the best defensive rb by order in the game : thuram, bergomi, bissaka or ferrer? And who is the best anchor man (without including rijkaard) in order : casemiro, edmilson or gilberto silva? Thanks a lot!
Hey! For the most part, there isn't really a difference between CB and RB/LB in terms of player type because in the current META, you'd put the same kind of player there unless you play my old 4-4-2 LBC formation with the fullback finisher option or indominators newest QC/Possession 4-4-2 that he qualified for the world championship with. It's hard to say which ones are the best as we all play differently, but here's how I feel: I've played quite a bit of Thuram and he is absolutely amazing. In my opinion, possibly the best defender in the game right now, I've never had Araújo though, but played against him, and he was extremely valuable. Without including the latter, the best CB/RB options right now are probably Thuram, Bergomi, Tomiyasu, Wan-Bissaka. Costacurta is also great, but I'd probably put him a bit below at least Thuram and Bergomi, possibly also the other 2. I've also played Fortress Zakaria as CB and he was fine. Hope I didn't forget any. Always a very subjective take though, other players might feel different, be aware of that. I don't have most of the epic players like Maldini, Nesta or Cannavaro for example, making it hard to rate them without having played with or against them a lot. Same goes for most of the anchor men. I'd put Fortress Zakaria as a clear #1 here though. If you play LBC, a box to box/destroyer Vieira with a defensive instruction will probably outshine most of the other anchor men. I think I've only ever come across the best Casemiro card like once or twice, hard to give an accurate impression, same for Edmilson. Gilberto Silva however I faced quite often, he was always very good.
Hold R1 + R2 at same time. If you want to see it and perhaps get some ideas when to use it, this might help you: th-cam.com/video/9lKsI5R_dlI/w-d-xo.html
Actually it isn't for the most part his defending is really good abart from that viera block and on the counter attacks he always makes good decisions i hate to say it but it's far from scripting
He might be talking about the Vieira block specifically, since I asked people to reply in the comments what they think about it since it was pretty weird. Thanks for the nice words regardless😀
@@funta697 i mean AI ...thats just too strong for lagends or pay to get player....that blitz curler pack player out of nowhere kicking the ball from far and its getting a goal without even coming close to the box...i am a f2p player with div 2 4500+ rank...its just frustating that pay to get player win dual with ease in air or iterception or positioning
Yeah, there were quite a few scenes where he got super unlucky, I felt really bad for him at this point as I said in the video. He was even one of the possession players who were actually competent at it, hope he at least had better luck the following games.
Me: "I'm not addicted to this game, I'm just a casual player that plays for fun." 😊
Also, me: watches efootball analytical breakdowns 😭
We're all just casuals! The addicted ones are the ones playing more than us, clearly😂
New meta
Score one go 2 bar defensive
Defensive sub tactics
Change your formation to more defensive
That’s it sit back and relax
That's AIDS 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Super cancel is the BEST thing to get used to doing, it's changed the way I hold a controller for the better. And no you're not seeing things, sometimes the English commentary will comment on the pass/shot being good or bad before the ball has left the players foot 👍 Great content as always ✌️
Thanks, very nice of you to say, I absolutely agree! Ah, I didn't actually know about that. I disabled the commentary after they repeated that it's "The hurricane himself, Harry Kane" like 4 times in 5 minutes when Kane received the ball, had it off ever since😁
Bro what are the actual buttons for super cancel
@@Stan-h9b usually R1 and R2 pressed at the same time. I honestly don't think this changes no matter what your button set up is.
4 mobile??
@nnajikosisochukwu878 , I don't play it on mobile, sorry.
whats the best formatino for QC
i can send my team ?
love your content man❤
Thanks, really appreciate it💪
Guter Mann, gutes Video...again!
Dankeschön für die netten Worte, gebe alles😀
great video!
Thanks! Really appreciate it😀
masterpiece Bruder
Danke dir!
"Ball Path" is an actual thing in PES and EF. Due to the way the game was made, the ball's trajectory, ball's animation, and ball physics, all are pre-determined assets. That's why picking the right angle and body placement is crucial in PES and EF, because if you put the ball into the "best" path, it will travel like nobody's business, even thru 5-6 players. But if the ball's trajectory isn't in the game from the start (Ex: Try early crossing from RMF or LMF into the "area of uncertainties" like KDB does, but 90% it will not work in EF because it isn't there in first place. Unless the opponent super-cancels and runs away from the trajectory, otherwise you won't ever get that pass.)
This is what people called "scripting" inside PES and EF. If you play the games for years and years (like me), you can predict exactly where the ball will go just from looking how it was kicked.
is it true that important comments like this are not liked by anyone
Nice video man well done indeed. I wish we had your controller on the screen, it would be very useful. Its a kindly request for next times. No matter what, great video 👏👏👏
Thank you very much!
Olá Pepe. Adorei o vídeo. Grandes dicas. Keep them coming!! 👏👏
Muito obrigado Daniel! Great to hear you liked it, will do my best to keep it up💪
goood one !!!!
Thanks!
@@PESPepe i shud be thanking u for the quality content brudda
Imagine a game where u need to glitch it to win:). Can’t believe I started playing and invested in this scripted mess. Only in efotball you can end a game 12-4 shots and loose 1-4 with 9 go saves for
Opponent:))
It's not a glitch the super cancel is a valid mechanic cause it's in the guide of the game and the game in real life already have match with those stats in shots too
it was just good anticipation from vieira, how mbappes body was angled already tells him where the shot is going
also addressing the ter stegen dive, he obviously stuttered right when the shot was blocked, u can see he was going to throw himself at the ball there, he obviously stopped when the shot was blocked but i think the all the momentum he had accumelated caused him to fall despite his effort to try and stop
That's a correct explanation... Hope pepe sees it
Good point, that's definitely possible! It's pretty weird though, since Vieira actually runs backwards, he wouldn't even see when the shot was coming. Maybe just the animation being suboptiomal, it's just a game after all😀
The Ter Stegen thing is pretty interesting too, I thought if he really wanted to save the shot, he might have jumped too late already when he actually went through with his little move, but then again we could explain this by saying the shot would have just gone in.
I wonder how a side-by-side would look like compared to when no player blocks it, because theoretically, if there's zero predetermination, Ter Stegen should have similar timing as here, but actually go through with any kind of saving animation, regardless whether the ball is saved or goes in.
Pretty sure he saw it😀
Regarding the goalie diving. For many years (back into pes days) Konami have goalkeeper reactions to deflections completely wrong. Keepers should be reacting to the initial trajectory of the shot even if their reaction starts just after the deflection, but that’s not the case. Human reaction time is .25 seconds so the keeper should not be able to react to anything that has happened within .25 seconds.
Instead efoutball keepers start the reactions after a reasonable delay (.25 seconds) after the initial shot but they react to everything that happens after that instantaneously which is completely wrong.
9:12 what DePaul are you using ?
The POTW one with the cornrows. Has interception, fighting spirit and sliding tackle in case that helps.
Great Breakdown btw, I'll take any tips I can get from it, SHAKAAA 😂🎉
Very useful video. I thank you for that. Try to upload more educational videos like this about developing the player’s level
Thanks! I actually do have a video about developing players, it was before the 88 proficiency managers were introduced though. So for example, attributes getting +3 when being 85 or higher now isn't in there. Also, to avoid overcapping, assuming there are no additional boosters on the card, the value is 96 now. Other than that, there's still a lot of useful stuff though in case you're interested, especially about overall ratings: th-cam.com/video/XfmMuTrQYRU/w-d-xo.html
FC Toho.. i see that you are a man of culture as well 😎
You're actually the first to comment about it😁Absolutely loving it!
For that messi free kick its easy to score 60% power + 5% after first time pressing and its messi 2019 recreation xd btw nice video
Have you noticed that super cancelling has been nerfed in the last couple patches? I can no longer stop player animations where they are frustrated to continue pressing, while I'm pretty sure you could do that before with super cancel.
Yes i noticed it, i also noticed Marseille turn was nerfed.
I felt I noticed something but it was such a little deviation that I thought it was just the game being different from time to time, due to connection or whatever. It happened so few times that I couldn't really pinpoint down as to what, when and why it happened though. Could have just been my imagination, I'm not playing that much right now to really be certain.
@@PESPepe I've noticed it a ton tbh. Because usually I override the animations when you are like forced to stop chasing a ball because your player must put their hands up in frustration or whatever.
And now it seems you are locked into that animation even with super cancel. It feels really bad for me unfortunately.
I think the marseille turn one I can explain because I used it a lot and I'm actually quite sad it's no longer as effective. Before, when you would use it, the defender couldn't change his momentum as quick and would still be moving into his running direction for a brief bit, which was just enough for marseille turn to pass him. Defenders seem to be able to shift directions faster since a few patches now, so they can turn and contest/take the ball most of the time.
Off topic but can I ask what appp u use to edit ur thumbnail pls and btw nice vid❤
Thanks! I use Photopea.
@@PESPepe ❤️❤️
Bro can you please share your quick counter tactics in this video? Players type for each position and individual instructions
I'm making a formation guide where all of this and more is explained, but to be fair, I tried many different playstyle and most worked fine. Most of the time I play with 3 no style CBs because these are the best players. A destroyer as a central CB worked well for me though. Build up also worked fine, and I've even played with an extra attacker (POTW Hernandez) for a long time who also did a great job. I think one has to be careful with switching to attack mode then because it could cause him to actually leave the defense and join the attack.
Defensive midfielders are anchor man + destroyer, but I also tried various combinations including no style players and box-to-box players, and they also did their job, but I'd say anchor man + destroyer might have a slight edge. I gave no style and box to box players a defensive instruction in my defensive midfield.
I think the best option for the CMF position is a box-to-box player, although I also tried a hole player which seems to be a bit more offensive. Outside AMFs are either no style, hole player or creative playmaker. My usual preference here is a no style player on one side and a hole player/creative playmaker on the other side.
One of my forwards is a deep-lying forward, which I like in general, and the other one has no style. Sometimes I use a Goal Poacher too. I can't really say how well a Fox in the Box would work because I don't really have a good one to use.
As for instructions, defensive on 1 DMF is a possibility, and I also like to use counter-target on Messi because he is irreplacable to me. If the opponent skips the midfield quick or plays a wide offensive formation, either give the defensively better DMF a deep line instruction or switch to a 4 man defence sub-tactic, possibly with a change to long ball counter, depending on how your opponent plays.
There's quite a lot more, but I'll make sure the video covers it.
Mega Video, could you show the controller thingy next time, so it is ever easier to understand what you are doing?
I've been thinking about this for a while, I'm always afraid that the controller would take up too much space, but you're probably right that it would be beneficial👍
Yo pepe, wanted to ask you about top 5 defenders/cbs creme de la creme in the game? without including (araujo),
Do you think the new showtime van dijk is also in top 5?
Who is the best defensive rb by order in the game : thuram, bergomi, bissaka or ferrer?
And who is the best anchor man (without including rijkaard) in order : casemiro, edmilson or gilberto silva? Thanks a lot!
Hey! For the most part, there isn't really a difference between CB and RB/LB in terms of player type because in the current META, you'd put the same kind of player there unless you play my old 4-4-2 LBC formation with the fullback finisher option or indominators newest QC/Possession 4-4-2 that he qualified for the world championship with.
It's hard to say which ones are the best as we all play differently, but here's how I feel: I've played quite a bit of Thuram and he is absolutely amazing. In my opinion, possibly the best defender in the game right now, I've never had Araújo though, but played against him, and he was extremely valuable.
Without including the latter, the best CB/RB options right now are probably Thuram, Bergomi, Tomiyasu, Wan-Bissaka. Costacurta is also great, but I'd probably put him a bit below at least Thuram and Bergomi, possibly also the other 2. I've also played Fortress Zakaria as CB and he was fine. Hope I didn't forget any. Always a very subjective take though, other players might feel different, be aware of that.
I don't have most of the epic players like Maldini, Nesta or Cannavaro for example, making it hard to rate them without having played with or against them a lot. Same goes for most of the anchor men. I'd put Fortress Zakaria as a clear #1 here though. If you play LBC, a box to box/destroyer Vieira with a defensive instruction will probably outshine most of the other anchor men.
I think I've only ever come across the best Casemiro card like once or twice, hard to give an accurate impression, same for Edmilson. Gilberto Silva however I faced quite often, he was always very good.
I use this trick since PES 3
Nice!
The game is so random currently. Makes me absolutely crazy
Pepe what skills do you suggest for blitz salah son chiesa?
I think I'd go with Rockchok's suggestions, which can be seen here: th-cam.com/video/HDoVipceUes/w-d-xo.html
back to the future pepe
I think I actually never watched any of the movies until the end😀
How do you super cancel??
Hold R1 + R2 at same time. If you want to see it and perhaps get some ideas when to use it, this might help you: th-cam.com/video/9lKsI5R_dlI/w-d-xo.html
@@PESPepe thank you bro 🤝🏾
You're welcome👍
@@PESPepethanks
NO WAY!!!! The game is coded to favour paid for players? Say it's not so.
Scripting at its best
Actually it isn't for the most part his defending is really good abart from that viera block and on the counter attacks he always makes good decisions i hate to say it but it's far from scripting
He might be talking about the Vieira block specifically, since I asked people to reply in the comments what they think about it since it was pretty weird. Thanks for the nice words regardless😀
@@PESPepe no thank you for responding to my comment i was just saying the truth and thanks for the content SHAKAHH
@@funta697 i mean AI ...thats just too strong for lagends or pay to get player....that blitz curler pack player out of nowhere kicking the ball from far and its getting a goal without even coming close to the box...i am a f2p player with div 2 4500+ rank...its just frustating that pay to get player win dual with ease in air or iterception or positioning
there are many dynamic things happening, just saying scripting like a 5 year old is wrong and misleading. it was not predetermined btw
This 'welcome everybody' has not much enthusiasm. Please try to use the same energy as you do in every video
Don't Get me wrong but you got too lucky in this game 😂
Your opponent must have been furious 😅
Yeah, there were quite a few scenes where he got super unlucky, I felt really bad for him at this point as I said in the video. He was even one of the possession players who were actually competent at it, hope he at least had better luck the following games.
@PESPepe yeah sometimes it happens
Anyways, Ggs Great Video as always
Thanks!
Too Bad I only Play on Mobile.
Nothing like Super Cancel 🙂
AI a victim of its own scripting
guess my country imma sub to you 😂😂😂😂
India
Shit cheating game Gullit and Vieira are controlled by AI plus constantly pressing L2 will Ai mark of runners run i mean wth is that
It’s a scripted shit